#but these people are actively choosing to be selfish and dumb

[black-rose-writings]

Some homophobe: *makes a very direct threat on facebook about shooting up a vigil for two victims of an anti-gay hate crime* (The exact words were: “I know where to bring my machine gun”)

Police: *arrests him for threats of violence and terrorism*

Twitter trash: Thought policing! What about the people who say mean things about pro-russia people? Such a double standart!

#I hate czech twitter #you should have seen the garbage people were saying about said hate crime #dropping f-slurs like they're snowflakes in winter #most of the homophobes in the comments are pro-russia #because that's just how it be i guess #people don't choose to be gay #but these people are actively choosing to be selfish and dumb #ant the 'threats' against pro-russia idiots mostly boil down to calling them traitors and collaborants #which they are #and saying 'hey remember when we used to hang people for collaborating with our enemies? Good old times' #my country doesn't have the death penalty for anything anymore #there is no serious advocacy for bringing it back either #there is no real direct threat #just people being angry at idiots who wants us to be a russian colony so long as gas is cheap #these people want LGBT people dead or suffering #forgive us for being a little mean to them #czech #čumblr

[ghostatas]

BENITO CHARACTER ANYLISIS THING BUT ITS NOT THAT GOOD JUST ALL MY THOUGHTS

FUCK SLEEPING I HAVE TOO MUCH ENERGY AMD THOUGHTS FOR THAT RN. ILL PROBABLY DO LUCIE NEXT IDK.

Can I just start this off by saying how good Quackity is at portraying a character and a storyline? We've seen it since dsmp, then qsmp now opq. He is just so good at it like, props to him.

Now into the juicy stuff. When we are first introduces to benito, he is kinda unlikeable. He is arrogant and cynical, thinks of himself as simply better than others. He says he will choose a soldier over a kid to save himself, and scolded the others for not being honest when they hadn't even answered yet (he was so wrong about himself). He held himself up to a standard and in very high regard.

He is constantly butting heads with Jeffrey, calling him pizza boy like he's demoting him in a way, comparing their statuses as he likes to point out he is a doctor all the time. He divides them. He is above them. Jeffrey is the lowest of the low, and he will never lower himself to that position. Yet at the end of the first episode, he doesn't want Jeffrey to die. He, despite what he says and how he justifies it and calls it research, wanted Amy (Emmi? I'll stick with Amy for now) to live. It was obvious the vials were a cure of some sort, and the papers described how it worked. He didn't need to experiment, but he wanted to save her regardless. He just didn't want to acknowledge it.

He starts to rely on the people around him. Its probably the first time he's done that. He most likely grew up in an unstable, dangerous position, which caused him to grow up into an ambitious, selfish person who didn't hesitate to step on others; or he would be the one stepped on. But now he is in a dangerous position again, however the people around him are actively trying to help eachother and supporting eachother. Benito is not used to this, and doesn't really know how to react, hence all the name calling and acting like his typical arrogant self.  He will, however, eventually think about saving their group, not just himself. He still very much distrusts others (Mikhail, Carla, though those two DEFINATLEY fukin deserved it, I'm totally still not mad about them), but he trusts the people in their circle. His people.

Enter episode 2. Benito wants mikhail DEAD, he will not trust a liar twice. But he's their only source of info, so he goes along reluctantly. Lucie dies.

Lucie dies trying to save Amy. He DESPISES Carla for trying to sabotage Amy. Not only because she tried to kill a kid, but that in turn also gave Lucie a harder time escaping. Benito says he helps Amy after that out of spite. I think it might be a part of it- a few hours won't change his entire personality- but only a part. He cares about Amy. Maybe it's because she's being forced to grow up in a world that wants to kill her all of a sudden. Maybe because she looks pitiful calling our for her dad even though she knows he's dead. Maybe it's because she reminds him of himself, ina way; just a massive ball of spite and anger and determination, all muddled up together. Who knows? What's definite though is that Lucie gave her life to protect this dumb, idiotic child, and letting the kid die would tarnish her legacy. (And isn't that a funny word, one we know Quackity likes).

Amy is Benitos priority. Whenever they're in danger, he's the first to remember her and immediately says "I'm taking her with me". Lets be real, i think we all agree that Carla was an ass for trying to kill her (we got attached to Amy too quickly it happens ik) and Benito was having none of her shit. Benito was trying to save all of them, in his own way. Because he cared, in his own fucked up spiteful way. He wants them safe, because he knows in this unknown world that suddenly got a lot more dangerous and scary, he has people that will care for and protect him and eachother.

When they all escape, benito feels like he has a purpose now. He wants to help people, or at least his family (cuz that's what they are now). He wants to properly learn medicine so he can better help those he cares about (and he cares so, so much). Maybe if he knew how to treat people better, Lucies leg would've been more healed and she couldvr run faster. Maybe they had an easier time escaping. But it's all in the past now, there's no changing that. He can only look to the future, no thinking of what ifs.

For Lucie. For Amy. For himself. For his family. (He'll continue to deny it though, cuz he's an ass. We love him for it.)

If other people want to share stuff or deny shit I say I'm all for it I just need these thoughts OUT, no matter how incoherent they are. Might do some art later too if I can be bothered :D

#ordem paranormal quarentena #opq #benito #benito camelo

[grim-faux]

a massive headache of an analysis of two very terrible people in my projected ideas and observations

I mentioned this on the discord that I think that the fandom is coddling Noone a bit too much. but hear me out before you "she's just a child, you monster. She was subjected to emotional abuse and Otto is a terrible guy for being a doctor and a trusted adult in her life."

That's all valid. but one thing we should ALL REMEMBER is that the children who are approached or ensnared by the Ferry/Candleman, are not targeted because of the "sordid and sympathetic story of bullying and internalized trauma". Under my observations, I would say the Ferry/Candleman pursues children that are vulnerable and easily manipulated. And of course he's not monitoring these children for any specifics or potential, his role is to catch kids and drag them to the Maw. For profit.

And I wanna sympathize with Otto - very carefully - cause this man is a mess. He's terrible, he's a jerk, he loses control over himself over a >10 child call out on his toxicity. AND HE SHOULD HAVE APPROACHED THE SITUATION DIFFERENTLY, WHICH WOULD HAVE MAYBE SAVED NOONE FROM THE FERRY/CANDLEMAN AND THE NOWHERE.

And I would wager that this last betrayal and abandonment by Cece2.0 tossed Otto the edge of all moral practice. Otto was a horrible guy, he betrayed his patient and Noone's trust - but all of that was not done for himself per say; he didn't throw Noone to the Candle/Ferryman for glory, for discovery, for personal promotion. He was doing this out of his childish desperation to find or at the very least see his sister. Yes, that is absolutely selfish, yes he hurt someone along the way, and he will continue to hurt other kids on his journey to finding Cece.

But Noone also isn't completely blameless. She is of course a child, she is a flawed, sad, and a broken child. Of course when someone said to her, "escape the pain and awful world you live," she leapt at this opportunity, no questions. No thoughts, head empty. But Noone is far from innocent, and she will not stay that way when she goes native to the Nowhere-ville.

Over the course of the podcasts, we see evidence that Noone- among the children she encounters - adapt to this hostile world. Children actively ignore Noone when she calls to them (see Ref noisy children die), others are swift to abandon her when the terrors find them kiddies. And Noone herself begins to react and fight at the hostilities in her environment - this proven in Chapter 5, when a girl tried to take the nome (see Ref mushroom fairy), she threw A FUCKING BRICK AT HER ARM. And especially in Chapter 6, she slammed a bottle over the marionette pinned to the table, killing it probably. Subjected to the Nowhere and the violence there, children either adapt and defend themselves, abandon others - or they die.

And my Discord did have a big analytical study and discussion over Rusty - the trapeze boy from the circus. Rusty was an interesting character, not only because he was a teen - probably inhabited Nowhere for a long time - but he was hinted to knowing a way out of Nowhere. This latter factor, I doubt - I do not think Rusty had any real knowledge of how to escape Nowhere, and all he wanted at the end of the day was escape the circus. We choose to ignore the giant pillars stretching to the ceiling not important no siree. That's the best case scenario. But Rusty and his group suggested one of two things (or all of these things). Kids left to Nowhere REALLY REGRET THAT DECISION EVENTUALLY (maybe you get older and realize how much of a dumb brat younger you was). Or, and also, Rusty was not there because of the Candle/Ferryman guiding him to Nowhere. Otherwise, Rusty would be property of the Maw, since Ferry/Candleman gives not two ceramic dolls who has a kid or what entity wants a kid - Ferry/Candleman will escort that child to MawcDonalds.

So Rusty and his trope came to the Nowhere on their own accord - either through a liminal space or other mysterious and obscure portal people should really avoid in the normal world. And they did not know really how to find their way back to the world they lost.

The last problematic matter of Rusty, is he is sus, like a lot of characters of the Little Nightmares world. He's invested in his survival and happiness and safety. So when he and the group are presented with Noone, they jump at this opportunity. It's not crazy to think Rusty was very invested in getting himself away, and ditch anyone else along the way. Case in point when he suggested Noone to be the lookout (wink-wink, nudge-nudge, teehee), "for the man in the purple suit." Noone later realizes she has no idea what the real plan for escape is, aside from alert Rusty that the man in the purple suit is there. She's told only to signal Rusty nonverbally, but she decided to scream at the teen "big top", which he thinks is a good idea. Yes, of course he would. And apparently whatever happened to Rusty was so horrific, it locked Noone in a panic attack. Which is terrible, since it is most probable Rusty and his group only needed Noone there to draw the attention of the man in the purple suit, use her as bait - but that didn't work out. F for Rusty, you big L.

These incidents with the children - of being exploited and bullied, not just in the Nowhere but from her world, drives Noone closer to the edge of the metaphorical doorway. And Otto exasperated the condition by pushing her closer to the threshold of commitment, all to seek a hint that Cece was still there and he might find her. But it was also Noone who took the plunge, despite Otto beseeching her to wait for him - this is the moth to the light, flying closer to that which is enticing and promises comfort, only to be snuffed out when the moth reached the flame.

One of the running themes of Little Nightmares is that of children succumbing to a fate or falling into the same cycle of torment, they are fighting to avoid. For Six, she becomes the next proprietor of the Maw, unable to leave - only so she can survive. With Mono, we follow him through his struggle to find and free his friend from the Tower, only to get thrown aside and abandoned; then he becomes the thing that he fled from, and eventually destroyed - the Broadcaster of the Tower. The children of Nowhere are not escaping a terrible world for another terrible world, they are accepting of the violence and malice that shaped who they are, and turn that back onto the world that inflicted it - perpetuating the trauma which forged them. There are no happy endings of Little Nightmares, only acceptance.

Otto succumbs to that fate as well. He doesn't seek to help Noone so much as he sought to fulfil his own selfish needs. Noone did not wait for Otto to confront the Ferry/Candleman, or wait for him to turn the Candle/Ferryman away - she took the hand offered and abandoned Otto. Which, in turn, leads to Otto's descent into his tragic villain arch. To be clear, Noone isn't responsible for this adult man who should know better, Otto is far from her responsibility. But this mindset may have been what drove Cece from her lil brother Otto - a clingy child she wanted nothing to do with. And ill reiterate, Noone was not responsible for Otto or his actions, as he was the one who swore to help her, he was the doctor and the figure of authority in her life - Otto was supposed to come to her aid.

But when Otto was at his most vulnerable and had no power over Noone any longer, and he begged her to wait. She did not. As with all monsters of the Nowhere, when the child has the upper-hand or has discovered a clever trap, the child dispatches their tormentor.

As equally as she despises Otto, she favored the Ferry/Candleman for the lies he gave her. For the truth he wove amongst the promises.

Though we can dissect Noone's character and grasp what led to her actions, her story is not one of triumph or escape - it is of acceptance and defeat. She does not overcome a great adversary, she submited to the conditions of the world that created the monsters she hated. Her story has only begun in terms of the Nowhere, and it is far from over. She is not journeying through the Nowhere to reach some enlightenment or to become stronger than the shadows that will chase her, or overcome the hazards that await her. Noone becomes another cog in the machine which keeps the Nowhere and its inhabitants gleeful and fulfilled.

It is fair and fine to sympathize with Noone and her fate, she is a child and a victim to all that was set upon her - left with no protectors or sympathizers. And she fell prey to a master manipulator, as did Otto. in this story, the only one who claims success is the Candle/Ferryman, who orchestrated the whole thing.

#little nightmares #lil nightmares #noone #otto #the sounds of nightmares #sounds of nightmares #the counsellor #i get this feel that everyone who condemned otto also hates on six too #tl;dr everyone is terrible we are angry equally with these characters #noones new hobby will be throwing children off cliffs and tossing bricks at everyone #rusty was kinda sus and sinister you cant change my mind #i understand rusty wanted to escape and all but if noone was successfull her story couldve ended right there #noones going to nowhere WHAT DO YOU THINK SHELL MINOR IN NOT SELF SACRIFICE I ASSURE YOU #she was so mad at the nome too rk would be so disappointed #rk would be like - girl the nome just showed you a way out of there why you gotta hate on the lil guy #mushroom fairy #the fae are sketchy and dont stand in a toadstool circle you will disappear

[sasster]

2, 6, 12, 15, 26, and 27 for Thuien also..

Can they take care of a plant? What about a pet? What about a child?

Well, he can definitely take care of a child! He's pretty good at it. Look at how Zurven turned out! He does, however, have a brown thumb and probably shouldn't be trusted to keep a garden or take care of a single plant. I think he's likely to just straight up forget about plants as needing care in any capacity.

And having pets.. He's not into all of that. But he is very good at taking care of other peoples pets. Likes animals just fine, just doesn't want to be responsible for keeping one alive himself.

Who will they take advice from, no matter what it is? Who won’t they take advice from, no matter what it is?

He trusts Lopard with literally everything. If he's struggling in any capacity for any reason.. Lopard will probably be the first person he goes to for advice anyway. They're good brothers, your honor.

He would never take advice from Caenos. Something wrong with that guy.

Do they like romance in the books they read (or in the book they’re in)?

I don't know if he thinks that romance as it exists in media is... Feasible? If it's fair, even. He thinks expecting someone to love you completely 100% of the time 24/7 is.. Kind of selfish. Because sometimes the people you love piss you off, and that's okay. Often, though, in media having one bad day is the same as just like blowing a relationship up forever and he thinks that's dumb.

He likes realistic love. He thinks realistic love varies from person to person too, so what the hell is the definition of that realistic love? He doesn't know.

What would they consider a waste of time– other than school or work?

Uhm. Trying to force people to see things at your level. If he finds himself in an argument with anyone for any reason he'll give it the ole college try to try and come to the same terms -- But if the person is stubborn and refuses to find a halfway point

Why bother? He's moving on. Stupidity.

Talent or effort?

Effort. He thinks you can have a natural talent for something and be absolutely ass at it if you don't hone the skill.

Actively pursuing something that maybe you aren't great at initially, he thinks, reflects on your character!!

Forgiveness or vengeance (or…)?

Some grudges are worth holding, but he'll choose forgiveness wherever plausible.

Let's learn some things about some guys

#thuein things #dis-asterism #askter #mlems

[flakeybakey]

People complain about Steve in Civil War, saying he was only protecting Bucky and he was selfish and shit. Stupid fucks must’ve watched a different film.

Steve literally says he wants to make sure no one is killed and that’s why he should be the one to bring Bucky in. And when Bucky is brought in, he doesn’t attempt to break him out. Zemo does that. And what does he do after? Not set Bucky free. He sets Bucky up to be questioned due to Zemo’s suspicious actions and Bucky being fucking brainwashed.

And yeah, Steve protected Bucky from the kill squad out to get him. He doesn’t want anyone to die. Yes, he loves Bucky. That’s his best friend (or was). But he would’ve don’t the same for anyone, including Tony.

So they find out there are more super soldiers out there. Of course Steve is gonna want to stop Zemo from activating them and putting the world in danger. That’s what the Avengers do.

He tried to tell Tony about it at the airport. Tony cuts him off and does not care about Steve’s mission. He just wants to have it all done, behind him, doesn’t wanna have to deal with the situation anymore, wants Ross off his back. He doesn’t care to listen to what Steve has to say. So Steve is gonna go through him if he must, cos he doesn’t let anyone stop him from doing the right thing/saving people/stopping bad guys.

And yeah, Steve isn’t gonna give up on Bucky. He doesn’t give up on anyone.

It wasn’t about saving Bucky. It was about saving the world, and Bucky was along to help. Clint, Wanda, Scott, Bucky… they were all there to try to stop the super soldiers. It was not about saving Bucky. It was about saving the world.

And yes. Steve is gonna protect Bucky from Tony. Yes, because that’s his friend, but he would defend anyone who was going to be killed. That’s who Steve is. Tony is the one who made him choose. You never make a person choose, cos chances are they’re not gonna choose you, especially in a situation where you are out of your mind with anger and trying to kill a man who has zero agency in his actions. Steve would not have let Tony kill anyone.

You dumb fucks must’ve watched a totally different movie. Maybe you should pull your heads out of Tony Stark’s ass.

[opinated-user]

idk why Lily assumes that if someone has a lot of depression/self esteem issues (especially while being verbally abused by someone else?? like that was really odd for her to specify which makes me think shes venting about someone in particular) then that means they're actively trying to be sad and just want to waste your time. like i know it can be emotionally draining to try to be uplifting and positive 24/7 for someone going through abuse or like emotional issues in general, but there's no reason to just assume that they're making things hard for you on purpose for whatever reason

LO's view on the issue is purely selfish. "i'm trying to tell you nice things and you keep not believing on them, while still keeping contact with that person i told you was abusive, so i have to believe that this something you're actively choosing to do in order to bother me, personally, and i won't give you the chance to keep doing that anymore." on her video about catra LO put a lot of emphasis on how MO asking if LO minded that she went to sleep during a stream meant that MO for some unexplained reason believes is a burden when LO never explicitely told her that. but that kind of comments above, that LO has clearly no problem sharing and defending even on places where MO can see it, are the kind of things you tell to people and they start believing that they are burdens for you. because you're literally blaming them for suffering the consequences of their trauma and haven't healed instantly. you tell that to someone who's currently going through an abusive situation they can't immediately scape from and they'll just assume they can't count on you, that you think they're annoying or dumb so they'll bottle it up everything to try not to be that burden anymore. we already know that's exactly what MO does and if LO keeps digging her heels, refusing to see how her own behaviour might influence this, it's only going to harm the both of them even worse on the long run. it's a perfect recipe for a toxic mess and i frankly can't believe that more people aren't calling her out on this, after so many times she wanted to portray herself as a defender of survivors who won't tolerate any kind of harmful rethoric towards them.

#lily orchard

[thefirsthogokage]

I know I posted something about this recently, but I'm saying it again (and yes, this is elsewhere by me too):

Primaries have, unfortunately, become picking who win in an election against the other party. General elections have always been about electing the lesser of two evils.

It absolutely sucks, but elections are a shitty game and people need to make sure they remember that.

If you're trying to convince people to not vote for Biden when he gets the nomination, you want republicans to win. It's as simple as that.

Biden is the only one who can bring in enough centerists that typically vote Red to vote Blue. And that's what we need. We are gaining momentum in who's voting Blue and we can't back down from that. We aren't there yet, so we need to vote for Biden when the time comes.

Biden isn't perfect. His handling of COVID had been bullshit, but not voting for him isn't an option unless you want:

Zero exception abortion band across the country, ban on trans healthcare across the country, no more Medicare and Medicaid, children working dangerous jobs across the country, changes to regulation that make climate change worse, and more.

A Republican isn't an option, and if you let that happen, you are selfish. You are actively hurting those of us whose lives will be even more ruined than they already have been. We will be persecuted for our religion, our genders, or sexual orientations, our skin color in every city, town, county, state in this country if Republicans win and being complicit in that makes you just as much of a racist, homophobic, bigoted bastard as them.

The needs of the many need to outweigh your ego. Yes, even though Biden's handling of COVID has been disastrous.

However, you have to also remember people are choosing to be dumb and not mask. People are CHOOSING that. It isn't just the government being stupid, it's people being stupid and not caring for others.

So get off your damn high horse and vote Blue or we're all fucked.

You don't vote for Democratic nominee? You're a republican. Which means you're a bigot (religious, gender, race, against queers), you hate the environment, you hate the right to chose, you hate children and want them to die of gun violence, you hate the poor, & you love the rich.

Don't be that. Don't be that person. Whether someone telling you to not vote for the Democratic nominee knows it or not, they're an agent of the Republican party. So you don't want the republicans to win? Suck it up and Vote Blue

#vote blue #vote blue always #us politics

[madfishmonger]

Well said.

"We need to realize it’s impossible to please people who hate us.

It’s really become clear to me over the last several years and seeing what’s happening in the world (particularly in the US because that’s where I am) that a disturbingly large portion of humanity simply hates women and will not be convinced otherwise. And it’s not just men, there are plenty of women who hate other women.

We are constantly judged. No matter what we do, it’s wrong. There is an absolutely impossible standard set for us that no person can ever meet, and yet our perceived failure is seen as a reason to keep hating us.

If we choose to express ourselves sexually, we’re called slts and whres.

If we choose to not be sexually active, we’re called prudes and “frigid.”

If we enjoy sex with men, that’s bad. If we enjoy sex with anyone other than men, that’s bad.

If we choose to pursue an education and career, we’re selfish cold-hearted and will die alone. Especially if we choose not to reproduce.

If we choose to get married and have a family, we’re lazy and contributing to overpopulation.

If we are stay at home mothers, we’re mooching off our husbands and sitting on our asses all day and being bad feminists.

If we are working mothers, we’re neglecting our children and homes.

If we are happily single, we’re going to be eaten by our cats.

If we are happily in a relationship, we’re somehow manipulating someone.

If we take birth control, we are selfish and promiscuous.

If we get pregnant, we’re irresponsible and stupid.

If we have an abortion, we’re evil baby killers and trying to duck out of responsibility.

If we give birth, we’re babytrappers.

If we dress too seductively, we’re asking for the wrong kind of attention and have no self respect.

If we don’t dress seductively enough, we’re frumpy and have no self respect.

If we are cautious around men and try to protect ourselves, we’re paranoid and silly and exaggerating.

If we aren’t cautious and end up assaulted, we should have been more careful, what were we thinking?

If we’re in an abusive relationship, we should have been more picky and had higher standards.

If we refuse someone’s advances, we’re too picky and should “give them a chance.”

If we’re polite and demure, we are too passive.

If we stand up for ourselves, we’re too aggressive.

If we express ourselves, we’re hysterical and too emotional.

If we hold back, we’re bad communicators.

We are considered too weak, too fragile, too dumb, too emotional, too vain, too EVERYTHING to be equal to men, but we’re also somehow responsible for every bad thing a man does. Either his mother didn’t raise him right, or girls he pursued wouldn’t date him, or his wife was a nag or stopped putting out, or that woman or little girl was tempting him, or women’s suffrage has somehow disenfranchised him and women’s rights have robbed him of opportunities that used to be reserved for men only.

And I’m so tired of this.

We’re never going to win. Not by playing by their rules. I know many of us have realized this long ago, but for anyone who needs to hear this: you don’t have to keep trying. People will hate you just for existing, and the best revenge is to just keep going, live YOUR best life, fight their attempts to quell us, and stop trying to meet the impossible standards they placed on us.

We have to keep fighting. We have to push back on these toxic beliefs, not because we’re going to convince them to stop hating us, but because they will never stop hating us. We don’t owe them anything. We owe each other, our allies, and ourselves everything.

Misogyny has always existed and probably always will. Getting rid of it isn’t what we should be trying to do. Instead, we need to take away their power and make it so they can’t keep trying to keep us “in our place.”

Vote. Protest. Donate. Talk to people. If you have kids, raise them to be feminists. If you don’t, consider volunteering at shelters or community centers. Be intersectional. This fight affects cis women, trans women, black women, white women, all our LGBTQ+ and POC siblings. And even men.

Because misogyny and hate hurts everyone. They’re going to hate us no matter what, so we might as well fight for ourselves, our safety, our freedom, our happiness, our future. And let everyone who hates us rot away in their hate. We don’t have to play their game.

I quit. I quit caring what hateful men and women think of me and my life and my choices. I’m don’t playing nice and trying to get along and compromise with people who believe I’m not worthy of freedom and dignity.

They can call me any name they want, it’s not going to make me keep trying to play their losing game."

#learn you a thing #women #rights

[jflemings]

this is late and probably weird but i've never seen anyone acknowledge that theo didn't actually have a heart condition. it always gets me in fics where they say that he did (which is the majority) bc it takes away so much from his character to be like 'he had to kill his sister so he didn't die' or whatever. it's very irrational but i always get a little pressed. it's def easier to say he did bc that makes it easier to sympathise with him but it's way more interesting and canonically correct for him to have had nothing medically wrong (except for the asthma) but still have gone done the path he did. again this is dumb. also I love inglorious roommates. the characterisation of theo and liam in it is so good and I can't wait for the next chapter!

Hello hello!! I know you said not to answer bc this anon wasn’t meant for me buuuuuut I’m going to bc you bring up a really good point that I want to talk about. This is long because I over analyse teen wolf in my free time, be prepared for it. 

(also I agree, inglorious roommates is top tier & the author does an excellent job of portraying Theo and Liam in their own way so if anyone hasn't read it, go read it on ao3 it’s by @honeyscapes) 

You’re 100% right. No one in the canon teen wolf universe (except for Valack) actually acknowledges the fact that while Theo was a sick kid, it wasn’t because of his heart. 

I believe as someone who loves Theo & his storyline that it is more intriguing to see that selfish, extreme side of Theo from a young age because it brings up the fact that there are many more layers to his personality than just being the villain of season 5. I also think that when Theo talks to whoever he’s talking to (stiles? I think?) when he says that he was only 9 and didn’t know any better than to trust the doctors that he was more likely than not, telling the truth. it then leads us to believe that his homelife as a child wasn’t good and that really, he was probably looking for an escape like most children would that age (but DEFINITELY not to that extreme). 

This makes his plot line that more refreshing and the (eventual) beginning of his redemption arc more promising. Knowing that a 9 year old kid was all to be manipulated into killing his sister for her heart gives us wayyyy more insight into what the writers were trying to do with Theo’s character than some of the fandom realise. I think the root of his relationship to with the doctors was fear, much like the other chimeras; We saw it first hand when he went with Liam and Scott to get mason back. He was scared of being a failure and not being strong enough because for him that meant that he was going to be killed and a child that would fall into this type of manipulation would have to already had some psychological issues to even consider killing their own sibling for their own personal gain.

It is canon through season 5 and season 6 that Theo is not a selfless person by default, and if he is selfless it’s because he actively chooses to be. The best examples of this is being the bait in the hospital with Liam. We know that Theo made the split second decision to save Liam and put him in the elevator because of the ambulance scene earlier in the episode where he says that Liam is going first [when speaking abt getting caught by ghost riders]. It can and has been argued that Theo’s motives for this were selfish and I only disagree w/ this opinion when people say he did it for bad selfish reasons like he has in the past. I think that at the core of it all, Theo just wants to prove himself and be seen as good enough. Liam pulled him out of the ground to help? he made sure he helped. Scott called him to help Liam with the hunters at the hospital? that's where he went. Theo doesn’t want to go back to the skinwalker’s prison so he continues to be helpful and to show Scott and Liam  that he can be trusted enough to be called on when they need him (and eventually he was when at the end of ‘wolves of war’ Scott said allies and Theo was shown). Theo was selfish when he did these things, because who wouldn’t be if it meant getting sent back to their own personal hell, but also because he felt like he needed to prove himself so that Liam wouldn't send him back like he kept saying he would. 

We don't know a whole lot about the skinwalker’s prison, why it was tara or why it was at the hospital but one of my favourite takes on it is that a person who gets sent to the skinwalkers prison must live out their biggest regret over and over again. Some people would probably disagree with me (which is 100% okay if you do, I can respect that!!) but when Liam and Stiles followed Theo to the bridge and Liam smelt grief I believe that that was real and the reason I do is because of Stiles’ immediate reaction when he figured out what he was doing at the bridge. I’d probably have to go back and rewatch the episode but I don't think initially that Theo knew he was being followed to the bridge until Liam and Stiles were in his (supernatural) earshot, this means that he went to Taras bridge willingly to grieve her. Another thing, when Theo initially comes back to beacon hills on the night of senior scribe he says “I guess I look a little different from the forth grade” (which, no fucking shit you would've been 9 and now you're 17 but that's not the point) and then later when Stiles is talking to Malia at the front of the school when Theo gets dropped off he says “That’s not Theo from the fourth grade”. This means that we are lead to believe that while Theo tried to play off that fact that him, Scott and Stiles were just classmates, they were actually closer than that. Keeping the trio’s potential history in mind, its canon that Theo didn’t leave Beacon Hills till a year after Tara’s death, meaning that anything that would've happened in that year (including the Raeken’s grieving) would've meant that most likely Stiles was there to see some of it. I believe that overall, Theo did come to regret Tara’s death before being sent where he was sent but I don't think that he was regretting it the same was pre-hell as he was post-hell. I can go further into detail abt that but I won't on this post bc its already so long omg I am so sorry anon!

As for me, I like both takes on it. The fanon universe where Theo did have a heart condition and the canon universe where he didn’t lets us have two sides to the same character and personally while I don't have an issue with it I can see why some people would! Theo is a very complex character which means that the fandom is kind of given free rein to have their own opinions, thoughts and feelings on him without it being too inaccurate (as long as its all canon-compliant with his character, that is). Theo is written to be the type of character than you hate to love and love to hate and full props goes to Cody Christian for absolutely knocking it out of the park! 

hope my response to your ask makes sense, anon! thank you even though it wasn’t meant for me initially :) 

#theo raeken #cody christian #teen wolf #teen wolf analysis #pegs analyses teen wolf #pegs talks #Theo and scott #Theo and liam #Theo and stiles #Theo and tara raeken #Theo and the mccall pack #the mccall pack #teen wolf season 5 #teen wolf season 6 #character analysis

[tamhrayis]

Why did Ymir choose Mikasa?

"Okay, maybe im just dumb and didnt get something but couldn't ymir see the end result of EM's suffering via paths, so she already knew the lesson mikasa learnt anyway?? bc it means that this all was just completely unnecessary and eren could live... is it really a plot hole or did i not understand something?"

I've received a question and would like to answer it in a separate post rather than an ask. I have been keeping this draft since ch.137, but never really could post it, because I didn't think that my points will be concrete enough. But thanks to ch.138 and 139, I finally can touch this topic again!

So...starting with Ymir. We all know that she was a slave in king Fritz’s tribe. Someday she freed pigs and the king “freed” her, but hunters ended up chasing her in the forest. She was hurt and somehow fell into a pound inside of the tree then our infamous hallucigenia attached to her spine, and she became the first titan shifter. After king discovered her power, he used her to enlarger his tribe and eventually, the tribe became an empire. King Fritz let her have his kids and continued to exploit her.

At the very end she died in pain, because she wanted to protect the king. This moment for some people was confusing, but we all supposed that it was out of plain obedience. Nothing more and nothing less.

Before, in ch.137 Zeke said that Ymir has been obeying Karl Fritz for 2000 years, but what was the reason? Zeke said that Ymir wanted to feel connected, because she was attached to the world she left behind. But...Zeke couldn't understand her. He spent a lot of time in paths trying to find the reason why she is so obedient, but still couldn't find the exact reason besides the attachment. He also mentioned that Eren could understand her, while he didn't.

As Eren said in ch.139 during his talk with Armin...Ymir was in "love" with the king. He'd burned her hometown, killed her parents, cut off her tongue, let her wander in the forest, exploited her powers, let her breed children and at the end let her daughters eat their mother's flesh...But she still "loved" him and that's why paths were created. Ymir didn't want to die nor live. She wanted to feel and see love, and be a part of it, but she couldn't get it when she was alive.

Then...how did Ymir still love him? It was the Stockholm syndrome. She simply felt attached to Karl Fritz, because he gave her a relatively better life. Yes, the king still saw her as a slave. She wasn't his wife or at least a person he cared about. He didn't see her as someone equal to him. She was just a weapon, breeding machine and slave, but definitely not his love.

Ymir knew that her "love" was wrong, but she couldn't escape it, because she trapped herself in the endless cycle of hatred and agony that didn't even start because of her, but because of the person she "loved". Eventually, her titan powers were passed down from generation to generation and she got nothing to do, but to obey the king's blood. She wanted to escape. She wanted someone to free her.

So...Why did he choose Mikasa for that role? As many people pointed out, Mikasa and Ymir have some similarities. Both had powers, they stayed loyal and were selfless, but...Mikasa had what Ymir didn't. Free will, freedom and love.

Mikasa stayed loyal to Eren not because she obeyed him and he forced her to do so, but simply because she loved him and it was her choice. Ymir chose Mikasa, because she is the freest person. Mikasa is an Ackerman, the bloodline that rebelled against king's ideology, and the descendant of Hizuru's shogun's clan, which had nothing to do with Ymir herself. Everything Mikasa did was purely out of her conscience and the right to choose. In this case, Eren was the one who has served as the pathway for Mikasa to free Ymir.

Ymir could see Eren and Mikasa, and I think she and Eren himself were the ones who told child Eren where Mikasa is back when she got kidnapped. Because, otherwise, Ymir wouldn't be freed and the cycle would continue to exist. But she couldn't fully free herself, because hallucigenia still existed and as we saw in ch.138, it has had mind on its own and probably needed a "host" to exist, which was Ymir and her subjects. It desperately wanted to live, but of course, since Ymir was its main "host" and got freed, it also stopped to exist.

Aside from this, Ymir wanted to witness the most unconditional love that could exist. Both Eren and Mikasa did a very noble act of sacrificing their love for the sake of change and I think this is what Ymir wanted to see.

Yes, from Ymir's side, it was very selfish and to be honest, I was also a bit disappointed to see her vanishing like this, but I guess, that was the fault from my side, because Ymir has never actively participated in the whole process of rumbling. All what she did was observing and guiding Armin and Mikasa to her. After all...everything she wanted was a selfish wish to be free and see love. It was never about repaying the debt or helping someone. Probably...that's why she needed these three selfless people to free her.

#damn Ymir WHY #but imagine being that special #Eren and Mikasa just better meet someday or I will throw hands #eren jaeger #mikasa ackerman #eremika #ymir fritz #attack on titan #shingeki no kyojin #t-talks #ask

[gch1995]

I’m 25 going on 26 now, and I grew up loving the classic Powerpuff Girls cartoon series when I was a kid. Even now when I rewatch it as an adult, it’s still a cute and funny cartoon, especially now that I’m old enough to recognize all of the adult jokes. Like, there’s no way it was a coincidence that Professor Utonium’s despicably dishonest, greedy, lazy, manipulative, selfish, and sleazy former roommate from college was given the name Professor Dick Hardly by accident.

Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup actually are pretty relatable little girls who have believable flaws and insecurities. They make believable bad choices for little girls. Those issues actually get dealt with seriously, rather than just being brushed aside as no big deal with no negative consequences. They are still endearing and sympathetic in spite of their flaws.

While he had a few OOC moments of bad parenting in some bad episodes here and there, generally speaking, Professor Utonium from the classic Powerpuff Girls is actually one of the best dads in cartoons that I’ve ever seen, which is sadly pretty rare in most cartoon sitcoms, even the ones that are actually aimed at a children audience.

Most cartoon dads are abusive, lazy, neglectful, selfish, and stupid oafs. Granted, those type of dads in cartoon sitcoms can actually be entertaining and funny to watch when they are actually being well-written as shitty and slow-witted, but still essentially well-meaning people in regards to their families, such as S1-S8 Homer Simpson from The Simpsons and even S1-S3 Peter Griffin from Family Guy. However, the entertainment quality of those shitty, but well-meaning cartoon dads was mostly lost when the writers flanderdized their negative traits to the point of making Homer and especially Peter downright despicable with little to no redeeming or sympathetic qualities much of the time anymore. They went from being shitty, but essentially well-meaning parents and husbands to downright bratty and spoiled man-children who were much more intentionally abusive, childish, cruel, neglectful, petty, and selfish in regards to their families and others around them with little to no sympathetic or redeeming qualities much of the time anymore, and that’s one of the biggest reasons why The Simpsons went downhill in quality after S8, and why Family Guy went downhill in quality after S3.

Nonetheless, even as they were originally written on their shows pre-flanderdization when they were still well-meaning, but misguided parents and spouses, cartoon dads like Homer Simpson and Peter Griffin, weren’t good dads on the whole. There were still plenty of recurring plot lines and/or gags of them being abusive, lazy, neglectful, reckless, and selfish. Back in early seasons pre-flanderdization, it was more forgivable, though, because they also still had their fair share of kind and selfless moments with their families, and their shittiness as parents wasn’t intentionally abusive, malicious, premeditated, and selfish in nature, which balanced them out enough to still be entertaining and likable characters in spite of their flaws.

Realistically speaking, though, dads like Peter Griffin and Homer Simpson would be better off having their kids taken away from them by CPS. Their good qualities and lack of malicious intent, particularly in earlier seasons pre-flanderdization, would still not hold up as legitimate excuse as to why they should be allowed to keep their kids. Bart would have bruises all over his neck, fractures in his neck, and he could possibly be killed if Homer strangled him hard enough to actually break his neck and/or cut off his air supply long enough in real life just once. Meg, Chris, and even Stewie would not only be injured, but actually outright killed in real life from some of the abuse and neglect that Peter and Lois put them through in later seasons of FG. All of these kids, especially Meg, would have serious self-esteem issues for the rest of their lives because Peter, Lois’, and Homer’s abuse and neglect of their kids went beyond just a pattern of being physical in nature, but emotionally and verbally abusive as well.

So yeah, Peter Griffin and Homer Simpson are really not good fathers who you’d ever want to deal with for a parent in real life, even pre-flanderdization. The major reoccurrence of the abusive, bumbling, idiotic, lazy, drunken, neglectful, and selfish dad trope in cartoon sitcoms is exactly why I really love Professor Utonium from the classic PPG cartoon. I don’t necessarily mind it in absurdist cartoon sitcoms when it’s done well as a trope, but I’m also getting tired of mostly just seeing bad and stupid dads in cartoon sitcoms, and not enough good ones.

For the most part, the OG Professor Utonium is a great dad who goes above and beyond to make sure Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup are happy, healthy, disciplined, and safe. He’s usually the parent most of us wish we could have in real life, if we don’t already. It’s refreshing to actually see a good dad in an animated sitcom for once.

Professor Utonium in the classic PPG cartoon is generally a very kind, loving, selfless, and supportive dad to girls. However, he also knows when he has to discipline them and be strict without ever being mean about it. He gives them good advice. He’s very selfless, and even though the girls are superheroes with superhuman abilities, he’ll still risk and/or sacrifice anything to protect them when they’re unable to protect themselves with their powers, including his own life. He didn’t need to be the stereotypical cartoon sitcom abusive, bumbling, dumb, and neglectful dad in order to be funny either. He was funny because he could sometimes be overprotective of the girls, and he could sometimes embarrass them by calling them sickly sweet terms of endearment and telling embarrassing stories that he shouldn’t have about them in public. He was socially awkward. These are relatable flaws in parents that even the best ones have.

While the girls don’t have a mother, Ms. Bellum and Ms. Keane were very brave, kind, and intelligent strong women who were good role models.

Also, the Professor did many activities with the girls and chores around the house that get gender-coded as “mother’s work.” Some of these things include begrudgingly playing dress up as Bubbles to make her happy when she was playing PowerPuff Girls with Buttercup and Blossom on a rainy day inside of no crime when he saw that she was upset that no one wanted to be her, cooking, cleaning, and actually sitting down to talk with the girls, listen to them, emotionally support them, and give them advice. He’s also not afraid to be openly affectionate, doting, and emotional with the girls. There’s just not enough good dads in cartoon sitcoms, which is why I really like Professor Utonium from the OG PowerPuff Girls cartoon and movie. He mostly defied all the bad dad stereotypes, and was a really great one to the girls more often than not.

The main villains from the classic PowerPuff Girls cartoon are incredibly entertaining, especially MoJo JoJo. Him was always the creepiest to me because he was the most devious, insidious, and manipulative one. All of the psychological abuse and manipulation he put the girls and Townsville through was always the scariest to me when I was a kid because out of all the villains on the show, the torment that he wreaked upon the girls and Townsville by brainwashing them, gaslighting them, and/or exploiting their fears and insecurities often was played as dead serious with really scary results, especially in early seasons of classic PPG. While Him had a few human moments here and there, for the most part, he was pretty consistently played off as being seriously scary and dangerous.

MoJo JoJo was an egomaniacal asshole hellbent on destroying the PowerPuff Girls and world domination, and on a few occasions, he actually came close to succeeding. On a few occasions, he genuinely was more scary than camp evil. But he still had a lot of humorous, human, fallible, and relatable moments, too. My favorite MoJo moments are the ones where he is making jokes, irritably going grocery shopping to get eggs, getting too frustrated by the girls antics and childish behaviors and reactions to actually go through with his plans to destroy them at certain points, and getting angry and jealous enough to actually destroy the alien/robot invader from another planet who was destroying Townsville in all the evil ways that he always wanted to himself. He was highly intelligent at coming up with clever schemes and inventions with all his science and technology to take over the world, destroy Townsville, and/or destroy the PowerPuff Girls. However, his arrogance, impatience, and impulsivity always doomed him to fail to succeed in the end, though he did come pretty close on a few occasions, especially in the 2002 prequel origin story movie, and he did actually get to rule the world in “The PowerPuff Girls Rule the World!” Surprisingly, he actually was a kindhearted ruler who did good things, but then he gave it all up and went back to being evil because he got bored.

Originally, MoJo was a well-intentioned extremist who wanted to create a utopia ruled by primates where they would never be controlled or rejected by humans again. As much as Professor Utonium’s irritation with JoJo for being a destructive chimp lab assistant was completely justified, it’s also hard not to feel kind of sorry for Mojo Jojo and understand where he’s coming from in his motivations to become evil, particularly in the 2002 prequel movie because originally all he really wanted was to be loved by his owner, too. He understandably felt rejected when Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup became the center of his universe instead. Of course, that doesn’t excuse him for choosing to respond to the Professor’s rejection by becoming an arrogant, evil, cruel, hateful, hypocritical, domineering, manipulative, petty, selfish, and vengeful villain going on a quest for world domination, attempting to commit homicide several times, probably committing voluntary manslaughter of citizens several times that we didn’t see on screen when destroying Townsville all those times, turning the rest of the world into dogs to try to take over the world, and trying to destroy the girls. However, you understand why Mojo became the villain he did with his backstory. He’s relatable. Occasionally, he does have some genuinely sympathetic moments where he’s actually willing to be friendly with the girls, team up with them, and do the right thing.

HIM was just the personification of evil for no other reason than the fact that he was satan. While MoJo was a complex, human, and relatable anti-villain with his origin story as the Professor’s lab chimp, who gained genius-level human intellect from having Chemical X splashed on his brain, and then chose to become evil after feeling rejected by the Professor when he saw how he pretty much forget about him once the girls became the center of his universe instead, HIM was evil, manipulative, and hateful for no other reason than the fact that those traits were a part of his nature as the very embodiment of evil. Many times, a fictional villain being portrayed as one-dimensional with no sympathetic qualities or relatable motivations will annoy me, but with HIM being evil just because that’s who he is, it actually works because he is literally Satan. There doesn’t need to be a deeper sympathetic story behind why he is evil. Committing crimes, wreaking havoc, corrupting people, manipulating people, turning people against others, exploiting the fears of others, and deceiving others for his own amusement is just who he is, and in the early seasons of classic PPG in particular, that made him really scary to me when I was a six year old little girl watching the cartoon on TV.

You get the idea...The classic PowerPuff Girls was a fantastic cartoon, particularly the first four seasons. Granted, there was some series seasonal rot going on in the writing in S5 and S6 after the 2002 prequel movie, and Craig Mcracken and Gennedy Tartakovsky’s departure from the crew. Like, the characterizations of the characters and/or storylines in S5 and S6 felt comparably flanderdized, ooc, immature, inconsistent, pointless, shallow, and underwhelming at certain times to fit the plot, such as in the episodes “Keen on Keane,” “Pee Pee G’s,” “Seed No Evil,” “Reeking Havoc,” “Toast of the Town,” “Say Uncle,” “City of Clipsville,” “”Bubble Boy,” A Made Up Story,” “Mo’linguish,” and “Simian Says.” Even the good episodes of S5-S6 still didn’t ever reach the same level of greatness of the ones from S1-S4. However, the seasonal rot in the classic PPG cartoon of S5-S6 after Craig McCracken and Gennedy Tartakovsky’s departure still wasn’t nearly as bad as the seasonal rot on The Simpsons after S8, Family Guy after S3, and SpongeBob SquarePants post S3–S4 ish, so I’m still willing to consider most of S5-S6 of classic PPG legit canon.

However, it sounds like the 2016 PPG reboot fucked up everything that was originally good about it to go for a more slapstick comedic feel without substance without consistency, depth, and intelligence. Now, I hear that the CW is making a live-action TV show spin-off of the PowerPuff Girls being jaded and resentful young women who’ve given up crime fighting as result! No, no, no! Why? Why does the CW keep making dark, nitty, and gritty live action teen soap operas out of beloved childhood cartoons?

Yeah, the original PowerPuff Girls cartoon and movie had dark moments. The girls could be bratty and make bad choices sometimes. However, it was still very much a fun show about normal little girls born with superpowers, which they chose to use to defend their father, their city, and on some occasions, the whole world, from crime. No one ultimately forced them to be superheroes for everyone in the classic PPG cartoon and movie. They chose to do it because they had brave and selfless hearts. There was ultimately no obligation for them to be superheroes in the classic PPG cartoon and movie. Sure, they got tired of fighting crime at times, but they still ultimately enjoyed doing it when push came to shove. They weren’t weighed down by the darkness of the world, hatred, and resentment. They still were relatively normal little girls with happy, peaceful, and normal lives of little girls whenever they weren’t fighting crime after the events of the prequel movie about their origins. That’s what made the PowerPuff Girls classic cartoon so special.

By turning Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup into jaded young women, who have given up on being superheroes because they’ve grown resentful of “losing the normal childhood to crime fighting” that they basically are shown to have in the original series for the most part in their spare time aside from having superpowers that they chose to use to fight crime to defend their dad and Townsville from, anyway, where is the fun in that?

#ppg classic #ppg #PowerPuff girls classic was an amazing cartoon! #there was some seasonal rot bad writing in classic PPG after S4 and Craig McCracken and Gennedy Tartovsky’s departure from the show #also looking back at even some of the early seasons of classic PPG Buttercup tended to get treated as a butt-monkey in her few centric Ed #but the seasonal rot moments of bad writing in S5-S6 of classic PPG wasn’t THAT bad so for the most part I’m willing to give it a pass #mojo jojo #him #professor utonium #blossom utonium #bubbles utonium #buttercup utonium #sara bellum #mayor #ms. keane #anti the cw live action PowerPuff girls! #is nothing from the childhoods of those of us who grew up in the early to mid 2000s sacred anymore? #what’s next a CW live action spin off of SpongeBob Squarepants in which SpongeBob works as a drug dealer for mob boss Mr. Krabs? #a CW live action spin off of Johnny Bravo where fool JD is actually rewarded for hitting on women who are strangers? #a cw live action reboot of dexter’s laboratory in which dexter grows up to run a crystal meth lab? #a CW live action spin-off of Courage the Cowardly Dog in which Muriel is a terrible pet owner too? #a CW live action of Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends in which Mac is diagnosed as a schizophrenic who hallucinated in the OG series? #omg! just let these beloved cartoons RIP please! #Come up with something new! Stop ruining good cartoons from the past by reviving them into something they were never meant to be!

[dyketubbo]

when you get a chance, thoughts on seer of space tubbo?

(i am also open to maid of space tubbo, and many others, but i am currently seer leaning)

*wakes up* oh boy time to classpect! under the readmore because seers are interesting enough that i ended up going on a tangent

of course no argument about the aspect because hes 100% a space player, ive discussed heir before i believe, so seer analysis it is, because i havent thought about it before (seers slip my mind sometimes, i love them, my brain is just the equivalent of a ground with a bunch of banana peels and cant handle having more than 4 coherent thoughts at a time).

like said with knights, he doesnt exactly try to tell anyone what he wants to come off as, sure he wants to be intimidating enough that people leave him alone, but, well. he does fit the intimidating thing, its less a facade and more a warning, he doesnt want to hurt anyone, but he will should he deem it necessary (thankfully, tubbos kind enough that he deems it unecessary in most cases). hes a bit too likely to follow through, and its bred from feeling unsafe, rather than feeling insecure. c!tubbo knows he can do things, the cc is more likely to downplay what he does than the character is (not that c!tubbo doesnt, but he does still believe in his abilities, he just doesnt think hes important enough to emphasize his impact. difference between going "oh no it was all __" and going "oh no it wasnt just me" when theres something hes done most of the work on)

so, he almost fits knight, at least in abilities, after all knights are capable and they know theyre capable, and hes very good at the exploitation aspect, pushing limitations and using them for their benefits. i could see him as maybe a knight thats actually gotten past the insecurity and facades already, if we're to consider his spy history as him being pre-actualization. being a space player doesnt really change how solid knight arcs are, so the combination of knight and space doesnt make knight much more fitting for tubbo

similarly, he does fit a few aspects of being a seer (having similar struggles, talking a shitton sometimes, sitting back and observing the world around him when he finds it beneficial to do so, generally very smart especially within their group), but not so much others (seers are often overbearingly smug in a way tubbos a bit too humble for, learning through education rather than experience, having a habit of getting too focused on their goal, and theyre overall passive, being too active is actually how they get themselves into shit, while tubbo gets hurt when hes too passive). seers of space focus more on the present than the future or past, which almost fits tubbo.. if it werent for the fact that he doesnt focus on the future or past out of repression cknsks. not that he would much anyways, but the intentional focus on the present is out of stubborness and trauma rather an actual trait of staying in the present. notably, theres quite a few times where tubbo does think about the past and future, especially when he was younger, and he does try to work towards his ideal future, he just doesnt talk about it much.

funnily enough, because of where seer falls through, he ends up being closer to the mage struggle of, well, getting their asses kicked when theyre too passive because things work out best when theyre involving themselves. mages also have that posturing thing as well, though its connected to intelligence (desperately trying to come off as smarter because they believe theyre still too dumb and naïve, even though theyre actually doing fine), so again, not exactly tubbos kind of posturing. plus, hes pissy, but not pissy enough for a mage, as theyre more likely to get caught up in how fed up they are with everything, while tubbo gets caught up in how much he still cares no matter how much he seems like he doesnt. the space aspect adds that theres.. a shitton of shit happening to and around him, which does fit, at least, and mages of space usually suffer because of their passions, knowledge, and experience, as well as they're rather hands on. again, fits, but, well.

seers and mages are a bit too focused on knowledge for the kind of person tubbo is. hes smart for sure, has a lot of knowledge, and even when hes not a spy he does want to know things and looks for that knowledge, but while he fits the goals and positives of seers (and mages), he doesnt exactly fit their flaws or what happens when theyre unhealthy. not that he needs to show signs of being unhealthy, but even healthy players still show an ability to be the unhealthy versions of their classes. he doesnt get his ass kicked for being too active and tunnel visioned like seers do (and it can sometimes come from ego trips, which tubbos very unlikely to have, even if he fits the "my solution is the most correct here, so we have to follow it" part of it all) like seers, he doesnt have any moments of just refusing to learn and complaining about how everything sucks rather than doing anything about it (nor is he likely too) like mages. he does vaguely fit where the unhealthiness of a knight can come in, propping up a shield to a ridiculous extent and lashing out when their insecurites are picked at, but that feels a bit too reckless to be tubbo (though it does fit tommy).

overall, i can kind of see seer for a slightly different version of tubbo, but it feels too passive for tubbo, if that makes sense. he is passive at least, in terms of classes anyways (note- despite how some classpectors define it, passive doesnt really mean you serve others, its not an insult, it just means you weave your aspect through others, rather than yourself. its the difference between a prince destroying x/destroying through x and a bard allowing destruction of x/inviting destruction through x. still listen to passive classes, thats what seers fall into after all, and seers are very important). its just that tubbo usually gets hurt by being too passive rather than getting hurt by being too active (not that it couldnt happen, which is why i say it could still fit under other circumstances).

speaking of passive v active, if i had to pick a passive class i feel fits tubbo the most, probably heir. active wise, id say maid does actually fit rather well. i feel like ive talked about maid tubbo before but i might be remembering a different analysis so just in case ill generally say i feel he fits the arc of going from a "doormat" to taking their life for themselves. theyre stubborn, stressed out from listening to others, like banter, occassionally silly and can start arguing in circles due to the stubborness (think that one patrick id scene, but smarter). maids are also heavy repressers, they fear being seen as weak, and are unwilling to ask for help. they rely on their environment and hate it.

and, painfully enough, some classpectors state that when pushed into being unhealthy, maids explode. maids are already intimidating on their own, being powerful and smart enough to know what to do with that power, and when they get stressed out enough, they, well, explode. they hurt everyone in one big event (think aradias actions in make her pay). its not necessarily a reckless lashing out at everyone like knights, but a giant burnout that happens to effect everyone. tubbos not at a point where it seems likely for this to happen, but i wouldnt be too surprised if something like it did happen were things to get too be too much. he is the mf with nukes after all. healthy maids are independent, with maids of space specifically, well, making space for themselves and others (sound like a certain snow commune anyone), attempting to start new lives. an independent maid, allowed to be their own person without anyone stepping on them, is a healthy maid. unfortunate for tubbo that his life fucking sucks too hard for him to really get to this point KEKW

heirs fit a similar "followed others then became more independent" arc, mostly unaware that theyre being lead around but, if whats happening aligns with their own ideals, dont really care much that theyre being a follower when they are aware of such. heirs have an instinct to stick to comfort, rather than an instinct to be independent like maids. heirs still need to find their independence and autonomy, but need to do so because they can change things, theyre also very powerful when they play correctly. however, going against what they may feel is best and is more comfortable for them can be actively painful, early heirs often would rather be comfortable and happy even if things arent going well than take the difficult route, know that theyll suffer, and temporarily risk comfort and happiness in an attempt to reach an end they dont know will be there for sure. they can deal with suffering, but choosing to stay constantly aware of this suffering hurts and they struggle with dealing with the fact that they need to be aware to stop the suffering.

heirs change by picking up on subtle details naturally, subconsciously effecting those around them, making either themself or others interact with their aspect differently (or actively not think with their own aspect, in a positive way). heirs, when self aware, want to help. thats an important detail, and its why heirs are often protagonists, they dont have the ambition to do things that only benefit themselves when they realize theyre in a position of power. at their core, heirs usually want to make things better, but learning to move on and better themselves can hurt, and it takes a lot for heirs to to let it be apart of the process.

unhealthy heirs fade. they get so stressed out by getting hurt that they shrink back into themselves, they stick with what makes them comfortable and refuse to acknowledge that they and others are hurting, wrapped up in their more selfish instincts and becoming hard and stressful to deal with. "i want everything to be okay" becomes "i dont want to deal with the idea that nothings okay right now", soon getting to "im okay and you cant tell me otherwise, fuck you if you want to take this away from me, you cant stop me but i will stop you". of course, that last one can be useful if a heir were to use it to change things for the better, but the tunnel vision on "i want to be comfortable even if im making others uncomfortable" is, well. shitty. unhealthy heirs wont actively try to hurt anyone unless pushed, but they can they can still manage to through a lack of acknowledging that they have to help. and well, that sounds somewhat like tubbo, the hurting through a lack of helping, at the very least its present in things like him not visiting tommy during exile (partially because it was safer to just not challenge dream, partially out of guilt and belief that tommy hated him)

heirs of space specifically are about flitting from project to project, learning about what interests them, impatient when others dont share their excitement, and learning when to adapt and move on from things. generally, if i had to put a scale on it, id say tubbos most likely to be a heir, then a maid, then a seer. it all depends on what aspects of him you wanna focus on, really. seer tubbo is really interesting though! i think seers are more smug than he is though, not that he doesnt have his moments, but his tendency to believe hes right isnt all too prominent compared to other traits of his, and its less from a smug "i know whats right" and more just a firm "this isnt right, i have a better idea". he wants to do whats right, but if he feels like he doesnt know whats right, hes willing to rely on others, it just.. takes him a bit of pushing to admit such

#i took like 5 hours on this hope you appreciate it max /lh #i enjoy classpecting though and i enjoy tubbo even more so its alright #dsmp #tubbo #dsmp classpects #hs #angel answers #long post #(iirc about 14 or 16 paragraphs maybe? #*)

[sepublic]

The Third Temple!

           SASHA you’re so DUMB, dang it! WHY would you?! WHY?!

           Sasha, you really ARE brute force, in spite of your seemingly more subtle, nuanced, and manipulative strategies on the surface… Superficially you think things through, you have plans and rely on Honey over Vinegar… But fundamentally, I think it’s clear that Sasha is someone who gets by through brute force, in the sense that she blindly throws her power around, instead of genuinely conceding to diplomacy and whatnot. And, this plays into her Persistence, and never giving up, as we see against those two bullies in the flashback…

           Also, lemme just say- The dehydrated bit for the Amphibians was hilarious and also a clever way to isolate the conflict to just the humans, and THEN just Anne and Sasha- Because alas, Marcy’s weak nerd arms…!

           Seriously though, seeing how Grime lowkey lays the pressure, I like how it displays that they’re both… Toxic and enabling to one another, even if supportive, and it’s not like just ONE is in charge or whatever. Sasha having to choose between Anne and Marcy, and Grime, is interesting; To her, Grime is someone who stuck with her through thick and thin, at her lowest point… He’s someone who’s not afraid of her power, but even actively encourages her, supports Sasha’s ruthlessness! In some ways, it seems he’s more supportive and understands Sasha better than her old friends…

           And, I have to think that Sasha wasn’t totally lying back there. That a part of her DID in fact feel remorse, or at least understand that she messed up… But it also means that she’s burnt that bridge permanently on her own end, or she’s trying to- Because she thinks that it’s too late, she’s just going to mess things up AGAIN anyway, because Anne and Marcy can’t handle the kind of person she is. So, Sasha is sticking with Grime… But again, Sasha has to wonder if Anne and Marcy have a point, and that’s something Grime doesn’t realize…. But then again, why WOULD he bring up Sasha’s flaws, in the midst of his own rebellion, which IS important to him!

           I think Sasha and Grime being a lot alike could make her realize what kind of impact she has on others, by realizing how she feels about Grime; And how Grime might realize the same vice-versa. In Grime’s case, he very much NEEDS to be ruthless in order to survive, in order to carry out his Toad Rebellion… And, he’s not completely wrong for it, either!

           For all we know, Sasha apologizing, and manipulating Anne and Marcy, isn’t totally mutually exclusive; Maybe she DID take Percy and Braddock a little bit to heart, in the sense that… She does care, but she also realizes that Andrias is pretty sus, and that they NEED to do something about him. To Sasha, she really is looking out for them by getting rid of Andrias… But how much of her is motivated by genuine suspicion of him, or just her own ulterior motives of getting back power and control?

           This could lead to a confrontation where Sasha NEEDS to be listened and heard out, because a part of her IS right about Andrias… But because of her own lies and treachery, Anne rightfully doesn’t trust her- And it’s complicated because in some ways, Sasha IS operating more from being selfish than doing the right thing, even if it’s ultimately siding with Sasha that is the right choice here. This could spur on Anne to side with Marcy and Andrias, perhaps help the Newt King in whatever he has planned… Or, it could lead to Anne realizing the Newts aren’t trustworthy as well, breaking those bridges!

           With what we see in the intro with Marcy, for all we know we’re being expected to think of Sasha as the betrayal, but it’s MARCY who screws things over! She did mention about how she wanted to bring the Calamity Box to Andrias first, so I imagine this has something to do with her deal… Perhaps Andrias will use the power in the Box, safely contained instead of in the girls, to help bring his master to power? Now I’m imagining a Breath of the Wild scenario, where ‘The Night’ rises to power like Calamity Ganon, engulfing Newtopia- This is of course more tragic because we got to KNOW Newtopia and its people…

           But even worse- Its power spreads out and it uses the Calamity Box power to revive the ancient machines of Amphibia, possibly even corrupting Frobo in particular- Just like Ganon with the Guardians! If Season 3 is Toad-themed, this could lead to Sasha and her rebellion teaming up with Anne and the others to regroup and defeat the Night… And as for Marcy, perhaps she’ll play the role of Princess Zelda; She’ll realize her mistakes, and pull some sort of sacrifice to keep the Night contained temporarily… Or even worse, Andrias will manipulate her into staying with them!

           Perhaps Marcy knows the truth about the gems draining power, that they’re needed to travel home; So Andrias proposed to have the power safely drained by the temples, and handed over to him, so that the girls could stay in Amphibia together, forever, never losing that fantasy of theirs… Who knows?

           I will say that it’s telling that Marcy, of course with the excuse of no Toad Tower incident, is immediately quick to fall into line with Sasha, and how this could play into her character being more generally gullible, possibly willfully so, because her default is to follow whoever’s in charge blindly… Ironic, then; Marcy is smart but not wise, Sasha is powerful but too weak to do the right thing and show vulnerability, and Anne is brave, but often held back by insecurities and doubt! These girls are their own antithesis!

           And Sasha… She needs to have the self-belief in herself, the way Anne and Marcy do- To actually do the right thing, to grow as a person. To not resign herself to who she is now, and even worse, because she believes in her own ability to improve and be better than that… Sasha needs to not let down Anne and Marcy’s trust, to make good on why it was given in the first place! Pay back their good faith in her, be the hero and leader they believe her to be!

           …Anyhow, I like Frobo’s brief involvement here- I’m glad to see he got to do more, and the gags with the dehydration, how I THOUGHT Grime’s arms seemed a bit skinnier than usual, were great! I like to see more of Frobo becoming more integrated into the family and cast, and I’d like to see how he, Sasha, and Grime would interact; Him being a powerful automaton might create some interest, perhaps in weaponizing and reactivating the Ruins of Despair… And of course, it’d complicate things for them to pull a full betrayal, considering Frobo’s power- Perhaps he’ll help against people like Yunnan, maybe even do a heroic sacrifice to help the others escape Newtopia, only to be destroyed or corrupted?

           I love how painfully direct the Third Temple was, how it’s really just about brute, raw strength- But making good on that strength to keep going, too! The gravity bit and Sasha removing her armor was classic anime characters with absurd weights, and I suspect that giant Toad golem is actually none other than the previous Toad we saw with Andrias… And, possibly Barrel himself! The golem conceding defeat with good sportsmanship probably gives us a good idea of what Barrel was like- Probably a much more boisterous, heart-on-your-sleeve individual…. Arguably way less toxic and manipulative than Sasha, perhaps the most traditional hero of the trio!

           Funny, then, that the trio first had the Wit be toxic… And now Strength… AND Wit, perhaps? We’ll see… Either way, I now suspect that Barrel talks the same way as the messages in the Third Temple!

           We’re in the final stretch, you guys… Nothing but pure plot and development, Sasha and Grime and the others, attempted reconciliation. If we saw Anne and the family try to say goodbye at Newtopia, this is going to take on a WHOLE new level, because Anne is going to think she’s really about to leave, for REAL this time; And this means teary farewells with all of Wartwood, and likely a montage and episode even MORE painful than our mid-point for this show! My heart isn’t ready… In addition to probably cute antics among the human girls, underscored by the darkness of what we KNOW is to come, no less!

           Until next time, F-Anne’s… We’re about to enter the calm, BEFORE the Storm!

#amphibia #amphibia sasha #sasha waybright #amphibia grime #captain grime #amphibia anne #anne boonchuy #amphibia marcy #marcy wu #amphibia andrias #king andrias #speculation #analysis #meta

[themoonlily]

What’s up the weird Eomer hate posts about being dumb and selfish about not noticing Eowyn’s struggles? Faramir’s getting an increasing amount too! About how he “forced” Eowyn to “conform to being a housewife” and took away her love of battle...WTF is wrong with people?

I really don't get it either, dear anon. I guess some people just can't love their favourites without shitting on other characters (deserved or not)? Which I think at least in this case becomes kind of counteractive, because apparently these people are convinced Éowyn didn't already have it bad enough - let's also pit her against the two people who love her the most in the whole world as if that made sense!

Also these kinds of readings are really one-sided and conveniently focus only on things that make Éowyn look like some flawless martyr (which is just another side of the same annoying attitude of not taking women and their stories seriously!) who never did anything wrong, even though (if we insist on being just as one-sided) from some other point of view, one could point out that she was letting down her entire family and being equally selfish. So what if Éomer too was struggling to keep his home from falling apart, and was seen by his enemies as one of the two chief obstacles to the easy conquest of Rohan, which is pretty telling about the amount of pressure he was under? He's a dude, so of course his troubles don't matter. Not to mention, we really don't see him interacting with Éowyn enough to say he should have noticed something wrong, except for the bits where he goes batshit insane thinking she's dead or actually weeps at her bedside with fear for her. I think that should be indicative of what their relationship actually is but what do I know? Also people suffering from depression and suicidal tendencies don't necessarily reveal their mental problems even to their loved ones. Mental illness doesn't work like that. And considering their situation, I think it's pretty fair to say that Éowyn probably hid the extent of her troubles from him because she thought he already had enough to worry about.

As for Faramir, not once do we see him forcing Éowyn to do anything; the only thing he does is support her and show compassion to her. Éowyn never gave up war because she was forced to, least of all by Faramir, and as far as I can remember, it was her own active choice to become a healer (I can't even imagine what mental leaps you'd have to make in order to arrive at the idea that Faramir somehow compelled her). The whole point of her giving up fighting is to reflect disillusionment with war and the futility of it (which, you could argue, goes back to Tolkien's own experiences in war, and the higher themes of LOTR). And why would her continuing as a Shieldmaiden be more progressive or whatever than choosing to become a healer, unless you still adhere to the view that fighting is "better" because it's traditionally seen as a masculine activity? Her arc is one of the most interesting and the most complex in the story, and I think Tolkien doesn't get enough credit for the way he lets this woman resolve her own toxic mindset and expectations, get over that mentioned love of battle by understanding she doesn't need it to self-actualise, overcome her troubles and find meaning and fulfillment in a peaceful life she chooses for herself. And she does that with help from the person who is perhaps better equipped to understand where she's coming from than anyone else in the entire story. In no way it's implied that Éowyn's role in rebuilding Ithilien with Faramir is passive, even though she doesn't participate as a warrior. And if you think that the only way you can make a difference is by fighting, then you have completely missed what Tolkien was trying to say and this may not be the right fandom for you.

Also if you really need to put the blame at somebody's door, look at Grima Wormtongue, the actual person who stalked Éowyn and manipulated her uncle into a very similar frame of mind as her. Now that I think about it, Théoden and Éowyn's situation is eerily similar at the point we first meet them, although her distress is more subtle than his. It's heavily implied, if not outright stated, that Wormtongue was also influencing Éowyn and pouring his poison into her ear while trying to tear down her entire family. But I guess some people these days are just determined to think that somehow the bad guys are sympathetic and a woman's worst enemies are her male relatives, no matter what kind of butchery of the characters and their stories that sort of view requires.

#i know i wasn't supposed to talk about this more. i lied. #thanks for the ask anyway! #also sorry this got so long but I Have Feelings About This