#c'boath

[jaded-of-mara]

#mara jade #joruus c'boath #dark force rising #star wars eu #star wars legends #star wars eu art

[jadecrusades]

Character Concepts by Olivier Vatine. “Star Wars: L'Héritier de L’Empire” Volume #1. February, 2002.

The first volume of Delcourt’s french “Star Wars: Heir to the Empire” anthology includes character concept art by Olivier Vatine. The (loosely) translated text from the “New Characters” behind the scenes feature reads:

Olivier Vatine reflects that the most interesting part of the project concerned the creation of new characters. Unfortunately, some of the work had already been done for the Star Wars roleplaying games. Despite this, he tried to inject his vision, hoping that Lucasfilm would not reject everything altogether. In the end, apart from a few hair tweaks (like adding hair to Mara, removing some from Thrawn, and redoing Joruus’s goatee), the other suggestions were accepted.

Talon Karrde is a smuggler, and that’s the only thing he has in common with Han Solo. Unlike Han, Talon is a very organized, methodical person who surrounds himself with a crowd of associates. He is determined to remain neutral in the conflict between the New Republic and the Empire. He remembers the unfortunate events of Jabba the Hutt too well to attempt any association with the Rebels or Imperials. In the comic, he appears as a sort of adventurer, cigar in the corner of his mouth (an object that no character, even secondary character, smokes in the Star Wars universe! So exotic…)

We know very little about Mara Jade’s past, and that’s what she wants. She has allied herself with Talon Karrde and quickly becomes his right-hand woman. She hides her secret identity, despite her loyalty to him. There’s something feline about Mara’s appearance. Everything about her evokes dynamism and strength of character. She gives the impression of being constantly on her guard. Mara appears in many other books after Zahn’s trilogy. She is presumably destined to play a very important role in future Star Wars series.

In this saga, it would have been a shame not to find a few new villains worthy of succeeding Vader. In “Heir to the Empire,” there are two that share the limelight for this role: Grand Admiral Thrawn, supreme leader of the Imperial forces, and Joruus C’boath, a Jedi master dedicated to the Dark Side.

Grand Admiral Thrawn has one peculiarity for an Imperial: he is not human. It’s amazing that he achieved such a rank, considering the physical and racial characteristics required of the Empire’s top leaders. It is probably because of his ruthlessness, his very particular sense of obedience, and his genius for strategy. Through intrigue, Thrawn ensures his succession to the Emperor and obtains new weapons to destroy the Rebellion: cloaking technology, Spaarti cloning cylinders, and above all, he seals an alliance with the Dark Jedi C'baoth. Ultimately, he represents the last hope for reviving the Imperial Order. On the advice of Lucasfilm, Thrawn was given a handsome uniform and a regulation haircut.

#Mara Jade #Mara Jade Skywalker #Olivier Vatine #Vatine #Thrawn #Grand Admiral Thrawn #Zahn #Timothy Zahn #Thrawn Trilogy #Star Wars #Star Wars EU #Star Wars Art #Star Wars Legends #Star Wars Expanded Universe #Emperor's Hand #Talon Karrde #Joruus C'boath #Heir to the Empire #concept art #character design

[padawankestis]

funniest part of the last jedi is when snoke drags hux across the bridge like this

#through a hologram no less #the joruus c'boath of it all

[kaaragen]

So, thoughts on Barriss being back in Tales of the Empire!

First, I'd just say the animation looks gorgeous! And it is nice to see Barriss back in some capacity. A surprise, to be sure, but a pleasant one!

I don't mind Inquisitor Barriss (indeed I wrote one here), but I am scratching my head about the timing. It feels like the time for that story has passed? Rebels would have made sense. So that makes me wonder if this is going to be straightforward.

I don't think there'll be a Barriss redemption, but it is interesting that in the trailer she never speaks. She also looks like she's dissociating the entire time. Her expressions never rise above mild annoyance. Based on that, I don't think she's joining the Inquisitors because she's a true believer, or convinced by what they're selling. I think she's in it purely for survival, and likely waiting for an opportunity to escape. There's still a tension in that, of course, about how far she will go to survive.

But I also wonder why now? Why resolve this mystery after ten years? Well, that's where the pairing with Morgan Elsbeth becomes interesting. Morgan is a done character - we know she dies, so we're getting her backstory filled in. But this could also be a way of stealth reminding people of Barriss/introducing new fans to her, using Morgan to draw casual viewers who've seen Ahsoka in.

I've thought for a while now that if you were going to reintroduce Barriss to the story, the best place would be to have her take the Mara Jade (or composite character with C'Boath) role in the Heir to the Empire or as part of Ahsoka season 2. I could see that playing out fairly well, and also usefully introduce an emotional conflict for Ahsoka and something of a resolution to their friendship (and more) arc.

I can dream at least!

#star wars #barriss offee #tales of the empire #it's the hope that kills #wouldn't make sense to bring her back just to kill her at the end of it #but it also wouldn't surprise me if they do do that ;_;

[absolxguardian]

I think the only way this Jedi Sabine stuff could actually work is for Sabine (and Ahsoka) to realize that she was training as a Jedi because she wanted the ability to protect her families and the galaxy. And the triumphant end of her arc is her realizing that she doesn't need to be a Jedi to be a hero, and then she turns off Ezra's lightsaber and fights Bylan with Mandalorian weapons. This will work especially well if Bylan has an ideology similar to Joruus C'boath (and the original) and is a massive Force supremacist.

#sw ahsoka #sabine wren

[iainwrites]

Iain pitches:

Outbound Flight/Survivor's Quest duology series. First series deals with Outbound Flight proper, with minimal connection to preexisting characters. Maybe someone from the Council that hasn't received a lot of screen time but people will still recognize. It doesn't have to go into the Yuuzahn Vong angle at all; DO include Thrawn and pepper information in about the Chiss. Treat the story of Outbound Flight as though it's the Titanic, focusing on the crew with the added twist of Jorus C'boath going full dictator. REFERENCE THE SHIT OUT OF THE SOURCE MATERIAL! End the first series with the ship crashlanding on a planetoid and just cut to black from there.

Survivor's Quest picks up in Mandalorian/Ahsoka timeline. Have a group from the New Republic accompanied by a new Jedi trainee searching for Old Republic relics. Treat 1st half of this season as "get the treasure map, discover where it leads" while the second half is the dungeon crawl of the wreck. Continue with Chiss information, and include others. REFERENCE THE SHIT OUT OF THE SOURCE MATERIAL!

Get Mr. Tim Zahn in as a writer for both. Get Filoni in, too.

#random #Star Wars #brain farts

[mrrubbersuitman]

First appearace of Jacen and Jaina Solo

#star wars #the last command #timothy zahn #mike baron #mathieu lauffray #jaina and jacen solo #mara jade #c'boath #grand admiral thrawn #dark horse comics #comic books #geek gifts #man cave #she shed #comics for sale

[spartanjoe-098]

The "Sequels" are my favorite era.

#star wars legends #Star Wars Eu #Star Wars Sequels #mara jade #Grand Master Luke Skywalker #Leia Organa-solo #jacen solo #Anakin solo #Jaina solo #Truce at Bakura #X-Wing #Rogue Squadron #Wedge Antilles #Corran Horn #Tycho Celchu #Grand Admiral thrawn #Joruus C'Boath #yuuzhan vong #Dark nest Crisis #black Fleet crisis #empire of the hand

[reythemandalor]

i have reached chapter four of Outbound Flight and only just realised that Jorj Car'das and Jorus C'baoth are not the same person.

#for some reason i just read their last names as the same? #i was really confused i was like is this book non linear?? #at one point i was like #i thought master c'boath's name was jorj #THEY AREN'T THE SAME CHARACTER #this is going well #star wars #outbound flight #thrawn #thrass

[nov4-rocket5]

Honestly a recurring trend for Star Wars is that their female characters are almost never consistently written well at all in their initial appearance. It takes sequels and outside material to make those characters actually liked.

Leia was mouthy damsel in distress that was Luke’s call to action in ANH. She actually gets good characterization and a solid arc in Empire, but then is still somewhat useful in RotJ, but mostly delegated to, “You are my Sister,” because Lucas and Kasdan realized the oversight they created in Empire.

Padme was a total non character that had no real chemistry with Anakin in the Prequels. Clone Wars kind of made up stuff to make her less of a non character, but her politics barely make a lick of sense because half of the time she’s a sock puppet for the political views of whoever was writing the episode (Let’s defund troops in the middle of a war! Surely that will make the Separatists like us! Oh no! Dooku had a Separatist who wanted peace talks killed! How could I not have seen this totally obvious thing coming!).

Ahsoka was a whiney pest in the Clone Wars Movie. She was meh in the first two seasons of Clone Wars cartoon. And got better over time from season 3 onwards. She was great in Rebels (though the time travel was a cop-out for an otherwise great sendoff), then went right back to being just decent in Clone Wars Season 7.

Sabine and Hera are decent at best in Rebels.

Bo-Katan is an unlikable xenophobic joke who turned heel solely because Maul was an outsider, even though he has about the exact same morality and honor as Pre Vizla.

Rey was one of the weakest characters in TFA. She got much better in TLJ because the one believable thing about her character is that her parents were nobodies and she was abandoned, thus she has no heritage and is forced to grow and change. But then this gets totally tossed out for whatever the hell we got in Rise of Skywalker.

Calling Jyn Erso a character at all is a pretty big stretch (still a great movie tho).

There is only one female Star Wars character that I will actually say is well written from Day 1, and stays well written until the very end, and that’s Mara Jade.

In fact, Mara Jade just a big-ass criticism of how lackluster female Star Wars characters are in general.

She is a female protag with a mysterious past and is in a vision of Luke Skywalker's.

She has all this knowledge of how to use Lightsabers, The Force and flying ships

Turns out she isn't blindly related to Emperor via "SeCrEt DaUgHtEr of Palpatine.

Turns out she was TRAINED by the Emperor as his Right Hand

Has a consistent struggle with the Emperor's Hail Mary to "kill Luke Skywalker" despite knowing her anger is irrational at times

Learns over time that Luke Skywalker isn't the bad guy and even begins to question the supposed 'high lifestyle' she was given to by the Emperor

Luke puts trust in Mara Jade to save Leia from Imperial assassins despite getting another Force vision like in Empire

Ultimately overcomes Hail Mary (even if Zahn wrote himself into a corner and used Clone Luuke to get out of it) and helps kill Jorus C'Boath

Actually has a 1000 times better relationship with Luke Skywalker than Ahsoka does with Anakin.

Mara Jade was an interesting badass from her first appearance.

And Lucas and Filoni hate her solely because she got with Luke.

#star wars #female character #bo katan kryze #pre vizsla #darth maul #ahsoka tano #padme amidala #star wars characters #mara jade #star wars legends #star wars expanded universe #prequel trilogy #sequel trilogy #star wars clone wars #star wars rebels #star wars rey #rose tico #star wars leia

[jadecrusades]

Illustration by Olivier Vatine. “Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Characters.” November, 1995.

And here we have it: The first chronological image of Mara Jade’s leather jumpsuit from “Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Characters,” published in 1995 and written by Andy Mangels. Olivier Vatine’s preliminary art of Mara Jade, Joruus C’Boath, Talon Karrde, and Grand Admiral Thrawn were used to tease the soon-to-be-released “Heir to the Empire” comics.

#Mara Jade #Mara Jade Skywalker #Olivier Vatine #Star Wars #Star Wars Art #Star Wars EU #Star Wars Expanded Universe #Star Wars Legends #Lucasfilm #Andy Mangels #Talon Karrde #Joruus C'Boath #Timothy Zahn #Thrawn #Art #Illustration

[starwarscabinpressure]

C'baoth: (over intercom) Hello? How does this thing work?

Pellaeon: Oh, Master C'boath. Are you all right?

C'baoth: No. I’ve been dinging on my Summon-a-Jedi bell for ages. And yet have I a Jedi to show for my trouble? I have not!

#joruus c'baoth #pellaeon #the thrawn trilogy #star wars eu #star wars legends #star wars #incorrect star wars quotes #source: cabin pressure

[bearpillowmonster]

Heir to the Empire Review

So when I figured out about Star Wars Legends as a kid, I got excited because I wanted to know what happened post-Return of the Jedi so I got a book called "Shadows of Mindor" seeing as it took place right after and I have to say that I was kind of bored with it and never finished it. I tried again when the sequel trilogy came out because they had at least an outline to go off of, coming before The Force Awakens. It was called "Aftermath: Life Debt" and I knew it introduced some cool new droids and with my obsession with BB8/BB9 at the time, seemed interesting enough to try and explore. I have the two books but I quit both and I want to talk about why.

Legends is known for having a good amount of crap but also a few diamonds in the rough, one problem I came across is that they start the books with new characters and technical terms we've never heard of and then don't explain it right off the bat so it's hard to get invested and get a clear picture. There is also a lot of fluff in there to replace that and sure there is some good content in there like Shadows talking about how Luke didn't want to take credit for the Death Star or be considered this icon or hero, he was being humble about it and kind of missed the days of being a moisture farmer. That was a great version of Luke and how I envisioned him, but it's what they did with those characters that rubbed me the wrong way. They will have them do things like "Let's take the X-wing somewhere." but it's easy to get lost because of how much it talks about, like you can't just say you took the X-Wing? Then you have the literal versions of the book; they are usually pretty thick but not very wide and have a small font which isn't a very comfortable way to read in my opinion (yeah I usually use physical books, with digital I wouldn't have that problem) At the beginning of this book, they start with new characters and terms that I never heard of and expect me to know what it is. I'm like "Here we go again." but I started trying to visualize it and it all became clear to me.

I'm going to review this as if it were a Star Wars movie, seeing as it's so beloved by many fans and considered to be a better sequel trilogy (I'm only on the first book so I can't make that call yet) This author had some science fiction background even before he became a big Star Wars writer and it shows but he also brings a little bit of an Earthly vibe, which is very odd with things such as years and times, like if you're in space then why is there time when our world alone has more than 24 time zones? (not to mention hot chocolate) I get that minutes and such all work the same but I still never heard it used in Star Wars. This book introduces Thrawn which I've never been a big fan of...that is until now, it's starting to make more sense. They call his throne room "an art museum" and things started to visualize into my mind better and I started actually getting into it. Thrawn reminds me of Legend of the Galactic Heroes, the way he's strategic and he always tries to be one step ahead which makes for an interesting character because it's a game of tug of war between the heroes and Thrawn, he can always predict their movements due to his experience and intelligence based on pattern, I mean it is an art how he keeps up, it really makes you feel like the heroes can't get any sort of handle. He's so precise in fact, that Pellaeon, the captain, is used to sort of show off how far he can get just by using statistics but it's more like a game or challenge to him. They contrast him to Vader, same with Leia, and show how calm they are about certain things while everybody else is on edge "Please don't hurt me." Something Kylo Ren fully adopts. That isn't to say he's not cold blooded or less menacing. He makes you believe he's good, he has good intentions. There's a scene where he seeks to get someone to admit their wrongdoing, he has no reason for this information, he's not mad, he just wants to get inside his head, he's a psychological villain, he gets his answer and then shoots the guy because it had no place in his "elite" force, he has class and standards to uphold, there's something classic about it, he sees things through and if they turn sour, he easily just turns the table.

They also add some background to these characters that I appreciate such as Winter, Leia's childhood friend/assistant in her role as Princess. And also the feelings they get, it's like the force amplifies their feelings. With that, I'm sure you can imagine we explore their weaknesses and strengths extensively. We're also given more depth with some previous side characters such as Wedge and Admiral Ackbar, we've seen them in battle but what are they like outside of the ship? I never even really thought about it but it's interesting to note.

Now I'm going to compare it to the current "sequel trilogy" It really bothers me at how much Disney Star Wars has been inspired from yet hasn't really adapted. Look at the twins and tell me that isn't Kylo and Rey. Look at C'Boath and tell me that isn't Malekith from Jedi Fallen Order. Then the whole line that Han says "You know it was a lot easier back when we were just taking on the Empire, at least then we knew who our enemies were." A lot of things in the Last Jedi alluded to this, how the rebellion/resistance wasn't everything it was made out to be but then they scrapped it for the next movie. I waited until after I saw TROS to read this but honestly I wish I had read this before any of the sequel trilogies because that way I would really see what's been going on, Kathleen's "We don't have any source material to draw from." Is a piece of crap, yeah maybe nothing from that specific timeline, 30 years after ROTJ, but you've been drawing it from elsewhere, I've saw some KOTOR vibes here and there too, which bothers me. It actually made me feel sick to my stomach when I realized this, just how zombified they made Star Wars, pieces from here, pieces from there so it doesn't seem too much like a retread again, but the new content is rare and too far between. This (so far) doesn't have that problem, it came out in the early 90s and takes place only 5 years after ROTJ, I'm still interested 30 years after the events but this is more in line with how people imagined it. A big complaint about the sequel trilogy is that Anakin's prophecy was a hoax considering it didn't mean much anymore, this doesn't have that problem, as I've said, Thrawn is a very different villain, it's not about the "balance to the force" (just yet). As a side note (because I didn't know where else to put it): There is a gambling scene that could have been a bit clearer, I didn't really understand what Torve was doing but it was still cool.

I can't mention this book without mentioning the debut of Mara Jade, I kind of want to keep everything about her a secret though since that was part of the reason I started this book in the first place. They introduce her, well kind of just how I would have wanted, the fandom has made her hypeworthy and made me consider her apart of Star Wars from the start because in a way we all have our own version of Star Wars. It's nice to know that she's living up to it. They even made a backstory book for her as well as various spinoff books, I've looked into them but it seems like this trilogy holds the most weight so I'm going to stick with it for now.

I'm just saying this is a thick and long book so every page could've seemed like a chore but it follows the Star Wars formula visiting different places within the same chapter to get all the sides of the story and then at the end it converges, some apparently don't like that about movies but you can't argue that that's how Empire was structured. It's a good book and I'm interested to read the other two in this trilogy at least. I felt that way with The Force Awakens so you could say in terms of sequel trilogies, it's 1 and 1.

#star wars #heir to the empire #thrawn trilogy #sw #review #book #book review

[star-wars-facts]

Star Wars fact #65

In the Thrawn trilogy, an evil clone of the Jedi Jorus C'boath, whose name was Joruus C'boath, cloned Luke Skywalker from the hand he lost on Bespin. The clone’s name was Luuke Skywalker.

#jorus c'boath #luke skywalker #joruus c'boath #luuke skywalker #star wars #legends #yes #apparently clones just have added vowels in their names #legends is fucking weird

[grand-moff-darth-salt]

Someone: *mentions C'boath*

Me, bursting through the door so hard the hinges break: WE DO NOT SSSPEAK ITS NAAAMEE!!!!

#we hates it! we hates it!! #c'boath #forever furious about outbound flight #THE BASTARD

[cwvecchione]

Mara Jade desperately searches for an opportunity to to strike down the sinister Joruus C'boath as Luke Skywalker battles his evil clone

#Star Wars