#cf book quotes

[admireforever]

“I don't want you forgetting how different our circumstaces are. If you die, and I live, there's no life for me at all back in District Twelve. You're my whole life." Peeta says. "I would never be happy again. It's different for you. I'm not saying it wouldn't be hard. But there are other people who'd make your life worth living."

"No one really needs me," he says, and there's no selfpity in his voice. It's true his family doesn't need him. They will mourn him, as will a handfull of friends. But they will get on…. I realise only one person will be damaged beyond repair if Peeta dies. Me.

"I do," I say. "I need you.”

#catching fire #hunger games #quote #quotes #the hunger games #cf #thg cf #katniss #katniss everdeen #peeta mellark #Peeta #katnnis and peeta #peeta and katniss #katniss x peeta #peeta x katniss #everlark #peeniss #suzanne collins #book quotes

[aeide-thea]

i love literature but this sort of literary chauvinism drives me fucking batty. like. you’re really going to pat yourself on the back about how

Tenderness is deep emotional concern about another being, its fragility, its unique nature, and its lack of immunity to suffering and the effects of time. Tenderness perceives the bonds that connect us, the similarities and sameness between us. It is a way of looking that shows the world as being alive, living, interconnected, cooperating with, and codependent on itself. Literature is built on tenderness…

when the original blog is the commonplace book of, and reblogged by, hedgehog-moss, who used to be vicious terf sespursongles before she remade and went crypto (i don’t have receipts offhand but i have seen them), and blocked me for objecting to her claim that a designer getting excited about concepts and forgetting about practical concerns was somehow an Inherently Male phenomenon?? like... clearly all her engagement with literature, which is obviously pretty extensive, has not in fact instilled much humanism in her when it comes to not just writing men off categorically!

and in general i just feel like—sitting by yourself imagining your way into sympathy with another imagined person or people is great! but absolutely does not necessarily translate into actual interactions with actual people you can’t just shut the book on when you aren’t in the mood to deal with them.

#idk. i fucking love books and i DO instinctively want to think they've made me sympathize more with other people #but intellectually i think that's honestly kind of bullshit #i just have a degree of instinctive sympathy in me that can be turned towards both fictional and nonfictional people #the books didn't cause it #anyway cf that one quote about how it's really easy to feel patient and sympathetic in the abstract #when you're like. spending all your time by yourself thinking high-minded thoughts abt how you totally like and value humanity #and how often that comes crashing down to earth really abruptly when you get confronted with the reality of humanity #which is that people are often mundane selfish dicks it's hard to romanticize! #anyway. to be clear i am FULLY @-ing myself with all of this #but i just like. if we book people are gonna claim to be magically enlightened we have to do better than swallowing this bullshit #and then puking it back up in order to pat ourselves on the back about it

[girderednerve]

"The process of classifying books can be somewhat inconsistent. Books usually get an initial designation from authors and publishers. Then, professional book reviewers usually weigh in with their own age-bracket recommendation, and distributors and booksellers can do the same. But ultimately, local library staff make the final call about the books they buy and where they should go.

[Co-founder of Idaho group Parents Against Bad Books, Carolyn] Harrison wants to change that process by giving parents a voice in that final decision, along with the library staff. But she says libraries are resistant to the idea.

"They've told us here that 'Oh no, you can't have parents involved. You must have experts choosing books for the children,'" Harrison says. "That makes no sense. Parents are the primary stakeholders for children."

....Others around the nation are trying another tactic.

A proposal in Washington state would require libraries to use a universal book-rating system, like the one voluntarilyused by the movie industry to designate films "G," "PG," "PG-13" and "R."

"We're not asking for anything unreasonable," says Lewis County Commissioner Sean Swope, who proposed the plan. "This is a tool to provide parents to be able to tell whether this is appropriate book for your child. I mean, that innocence, once it's gone, it's gone."

Under Swope's proposed plan, librarians would be required to rate books according to criteria that he would set."

#content warning that a library director who is vaguely defending widely challenged memoir 'all boys aren't blue' misgenders its author #which fucking sucks lmao! #i also think this article completely fails to explain the problems with the idea of a movie-rating system or its origins #it doesn't really explain what professional values librarians employ when building collections; it's pretty complex actually! #instead there's a vague 'lots of librarians are parents themselves :)' which is dogshit. anyway fun time to be a new children's librarian #the best defense it musters is quoting some idahoan veteran with 9 kids who thinks that it's bad for the government to do these ratings #i mean i do think the way publishers are trending (cf. scholastic) is probably going to end with some kind of internal self-censorship #i hate this for the record. it will diminish information access in profound & horrible ways. #but the bigger intention here as always is to destroy public goods from the local picture book collection to the public school district

[lvcygraybaird]

favorite hunger games passages [44/?]

#thg #catching fire #thg: catching fire #the hunger games #the hunger games: catching fire #cf #fhgp #thg book quotes #katniss everdeen

[yieldingcontronyms]

“Pain rarely goes away entirely. It simply changes form.”

from "The Call of the Void (Shadows and Crowns Book 3)" by S.M. Gaither

#book quotes #chronic illness #chronic pain #chronic fatigue #disability #cfs/me

[merymoonbeam]

Truth

just a compilation of quotes and some information. (Hofas spoilers but I cant add read more so just ignore the post if you want idk)

Mor quote from Acomaf:

She lifted the orb from its velvet nest. It was no larger than a ripe apple, and fit within her cupped palms as if her entire body, her entire being, had been molded for it. “Truth is deadly. Truth is freedom. Truth can break and mend and bind. The Veritas holds in it the truth of the world. I am the Morrigan,” she said, her eyes not wholly of this earth. The hair on my arms rose. “You know I speak truth.”

Acomaf Book Of Breathings

Unmade and Made; Made and Unmade—that is the cycle. Like calls to like.

Acomaf Book Of Breathings Prophecy

Life and death and rebirth

Sun and moon and dark

Rot and bloom and bones

Hello, sweet thing. Hello, lady of night, princess of decay. Hello, fanged beast and trembling fawn. Love me, touch me, sing me.

Acowar Elriel TT scene:

Elain looked up at Azriel, their eyes meeting, his hand still lingering on the hilt of the blade. I saw the painting in my mind: the lovely fawn, blooming spring vibrant behind her.Standing before Death, shadows and terrors lurking over his shoulder. Light and dark, the space between their bodies a blend of the two. The only bridge of connection … that knife.(acowar)

Crescent City2 TT and Gwydion:

The male drew it, and Bryce flinched. Flinched, but—“What the fuck?” The knife could have been the twin of the Starsword: black hilted and bladed. It was its twin. The Starsword began to hum within its sheath, glittering white light leaking from where leather met the dark hilt. The dagger—.The male dropped the dagger to the plush carpet. All of them retreated as it flared with dark light, as if in answer. Alpha and Omega. “Gwydion,” the dark-haired female whispered, indicating the Starsword.(hosab)

Alpha and Omega meaning:

Alpha (Α) and omega (Ω) are the first and last letters, respectively, of the classical (Ionic) Greek alphabet. Thus, the phrase “I am the alpha and the omega” is further clarified with the additional phrase, “the beginning and the end” in Revelation 21:6, 22:13. The first and last letters of the Greek alphabet were used because the book of Revelation is in the New Testament, which was originally written in Greek.This phrase is interpreted by many Christians to mean that Jesus has existed for all eternity or that God is eternal. 

In Hebrew, the word emet (אמת, meaning “truth”), is referred to as the “Seal of God.”[8][9][10] [Cf. Isaiah 44:6[11]] The word is composed of the first, middle, and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. The midrash explains that emet is made up of the first, middle, and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet (aleph, mem, and tav: אמת). Sheqer (שקר, falsehood), on the other hand, is made up of the 19th, 20th, and 21st (and penultimate) letters. Thus, truth is all-encompassing, while falsehood is narrow and deceiving.

Hofas Gwydion and Truth-Teller information

“The Starsword is Made, as you called it.” He waved an idle hand, sparks at his fingertips. “The knife can Unmake things. Made and Unmade. Matter and antimatter. With the right influx of power—a command from the one destined to wield them—they can be merged. And they can create a place where no life, no light exists. A place that is nothing. Nowhere.”

Hofas Gwydion and TT singing

Because the sword and dagger weren’t merely tugging now. They were singing, and all she had to do was reach out for them—

#elriel #hofas spoilers #cc3 spoilers #truth #I love canon you know? its just the best

[tanadrin]

Stephen Shoemaker has talked at length about the eschatological nature of early Islam in other books and articles; he makes some very interesting points in The Apocalypse of Empire (which is not just about Islam, although it discusses Islam at length in two chapters), synthesizing some points made by other scholars.

Scholarly trend to view Islam as a movement that was from the beginning pragmatic, not apocalyptic. Other scholars try to portray Muhammad as basically a national unifier/Arab empire-builder, with religion as a tool secondary to this aim. This seems to amount to not taking early Islam as it portrays itself very seriously, and indeed in some cases seems to be almost an apologetic project to try to help make early Islam more relevant to the present day.

Snouck Hurgronje(sp?) argued that early Muslims saw Muhammad's appearance itself as a sign the end of the world was at hand, and that Muhammad would not die before its arrival. He and other scholars after him saw other elements of his message as more or less accessories to his concern with the impending end of the world.

Projects of empire-building and apocalypticism are not necessarily opposed! The rest of this book furnishes examples from Byzantium, Rome, Zoroastrianism. For a contemporary example, we might look at ISIS. It was relatively common in the ancient near east to think the eschaton would be realized through imperial triumph, and that the end of history was imminent. Indeed, Muhammad's religious beliefs probably played a significant role in the dynamism and success of his nascent polity.

Later Islamic tradition like the biographies deemphasized the urgent apocalypticism (again, not unlike Christianity!). But the Quran is rife with warnings of impending judgement and destruction ("the Hour"), and incorporates Christian apocalyptic material like the parable of the rich fool from Luke. Shoemaker furnishes lots of quotes like "The matter of the Hour is as a twinkling of the eye, or nearer," and "The Lord's judgement is about to fall," etc. Astronomical events will predict the Hour's arrival; doubters will soon be proved wrong, etc.

Perspectives from the New Testament help us understand why different passages portray the urgency of the Hour differently; the historical Jesus probably preached an imminent apocalypse, but the Gospels were compiled later, so they can be more ambivalent. Likewise later Muslims, when compiling the Quran, would have to deal with the fact that the "urgent" end of the world hadn't arrived yet; though the strong eschatological perspective persisted (as it did in Christianity, too), there was an effort to try to moderate some of these embarrassing passages.

Some early hadith and other early traditions corroborate the impending eschaton, emphasizing the link between his appearance and the end of the world. "According to another tradition, Muhammad offered his followers a promise (reminiscent of Matt. 16:28, 24:34) that the Hour would arrive before some of his initial followers died. In yet another tradition, Muhammad responds to questions about the Hour’s timing by pointing to the youngest man in the crowd and declaring that 'if this young man lives, the Hour will arrive before he reaches old age.'"

Donner argues the conquests were an effort to establish an interconfessional "community of the Believers" that included Jews and Christians, requiring only belief in God and the last day. According to him, Muhammad and his earliest followers didn't even think of themselves as a separate religion; rather, their earliest community was a loose confederation of Abrahamic monotheists who shared Muhammad's apocalyptic aoutlook, and who were trying to establish a righteous kingdom in preparation for the end. Cf. the Constitution of Medina, which seems to be a very early source. It has a dramatic discontinuity with the ethnic and religious boundaries established in later Islam. Traditionally held to be a brief experiment that ended with Muhammed expelling the Jews from Medina, Donner argues that in fact Muhammad's community remained confessionally diverse for decades, including Jews and Christians into the Umayyad period. Indeed, a lot of their early successes may have been aided by their nonsectarian outlook.

Only under Abd al-Malik(!) does Islam begin to consolidate, and a new Arab ethnic identity crystallizes that distinguishes Muslims from outsiders they ruled.

In variant readings of the Quran we can glimpse a view not unlike that of the early Christians, where the Kingdom of God had its inception in Jesus's works; here, the conquests of the early followers of Muhammad are part of an the initiation of the end times. Muhammad is the "seal of the prophets" in this reading because the world is about to end.

So the picture that emerges from all this is that Muhammad was an apocalyptic preacher and reformer, very much like Jesus, who wasn't aiming to found a new religion necessarily. But he preached that the world was ending, and as part of his preaching on this subject he led the creation and rapid expansion of a new polity meant to unite the community of believers. Only once he died, and the world failed to end, and his followers had to consolidate their gains and transform them into an actual, durable state did a coherent scripture (the Quran) and a coherent religious identity (Islam) emerge, both strongly affected by the new social, cultural, and political contexts his followers found themselves in. The turning point seems to be the reign of Abd al-Malik, around fifty years after the death of Muhammad, when the oral traditions of the original community of believers are approaching their expiry date, and a new generation (and new converts) need a worldview and a political system that is relevant to their present circumstances. This is extremely comparable to the transition from early Jesus-traditions to the Gospels finally being written down in the second century, when the last people who knew Jesus directly, or who knew the Apostles directly, were dying, and the community had to transition to a form that could survive indefinitely, or else be forgotten.

#stephen shoemaker #the apocalypse of empire #islamic studies

[savelockwoodandco]

Hi Admin, hope everything is fine with you, because I truly need your insight.

Whilst I understand that we must approach a battle with high spirits, the way the world goes and with it the media industry really saddens me.

Are we really gonna get the show back?

Do we think CF or the Strouds will really tell us to stop if they think all is over?

I might be far too cynical, but for the Strouds any publicity brings more people to the books.

As for CF, it's still free publicity.

I know that of course none of them will ever be straightforward with us - if anything is happening behind the scenes - because they can't, I guess, but where does the Clowning stop and become simply Delusion?

I keep looking at CF reply for their 5000 followers, and I get it, it looks sus. But are we building a castle made of thin sand out of it?

I'm sorry, Admin, I don't want to upset you. :(

I will still support the show campaign, but I'm so, so, so sad about everything...

Hi Anon! Thanks for the question, and no worries, you didn't upset us! We've got decades of experience in this media game (and in cancellations specifically), and we understand that it can be challenging and frustrating at the best of times.

We totally get being discouraged due to the state of the media industry. It's never been a particularly kind nor relaxed space, and everything about it seems to have been heightened within the last decade or so. What's good -- acknowledging the impact that actors have, the ability to tell stories that would have gone unseen in years past, feeding fan interaction through behind-the-scenes looks while filming and the newfound safety of transformative works (i.e., fanfic) -- has become really, really good. On the flip side, the bad parts of media -- encouraging division and in-fighting, poor treatment of non-administrative professionals, the blind-eye to any profit beyond exponential growth -- have gotten worse.

This isn't a doom-and-gloom statement, though -- these things come in cycles. The Hayes Code Mentality is coming back into full swing, but at least we're past the point of forcing actors to get married in order to promote their films. Some things improve, some things fall back, lather, rinse, repeat. We get being discouraged due to the media landscape -- but remember, all problems are temporary, and bad things will come and go just as often as good things. The good things, the progress, the encouraging changes are no less good simply because they're accompanied by uncertainty.

And if we had to pick a mission statement for answering this ask, I suppose that would be it. There are so many good and encouraging things that have happened -- watch this space, as I (tumblr mod) am going to have Twitter Mod, in all her beneficence, grab me some screenshots from Twitter to show off good/hopeful/encouraging things that have happened recently, since not everyone (including me!) is on Twitter -- that, while we may encounter doubts, disappointments, and uncertainty, it would be as foolish to throw everything out as it would be to assume that we're completely in the clear.

Recency bias, negativity bias, and plain ol' uncertainty have a way of reminding us that there's still doubt and uncertainty surrounding us in this campaign; at times, to borrow a quote, we can feel like we're braving a storm in a skiff made of paper. When a day, a week, two weeks, or more pass without Absolute Confirmation of being picked up, it's easy to lose confidence, to become discouraged, and to believe that nothing we do matters.

And yes, to just simply get sad. And that's okay, that's normal and understandable.

To answer the question posed at the beginning of this ask: yes, we still firmly believe that we're going to get our show back. So many good things -- Nice Things -- have happened and continue to happen (once again, watch this space for a screenshot-heavy post about those things!), that I think it would be wrongheaded to ignore them.

Yes, CF would tell us if there wasn't a chance. It's not really 'free publicity' to encourage people to support a campaign to save a show that they don't have a stake in.

And yes, they make Lockwood and Co; but without a second season, there's no opportunity to make more profit off of it -- sales off DVDs only apply when the show will be put on DVD, after all, which is increasingly uncommon for streaming-premiered shows. Positive word of mouth of "oh they made that really good show that netflix unfairly cancelled" -- a true statement -- only goes so far when negative word of mouth -- "they led fans on when they knew there wasn't a chance" -- is the trade-off.

CF isn't a huge company, they need that positive word of mouth to draw in viewers for current and future projects. On top of all of that, they're human. It's tempting to see every business, no matter the size, as a soul-sucking machine that wrings fans dry for profit, but that simply isn't true, especially of smaller outfits.

The same goes for the Strouds -- there was so much of a rush for the books when the show first came out; people had to wait weeks and weeks for more copies to be printed and sent out through Amazon/Barnes & Noble/other booksellers, and libraries had hold lines for months. That fervor only holds out so long, though, without something concrete -- another season -- to keep it up. In this age of 'receipts', Stroud isn't going to risk his reputation (and provide a lot of clean-up work for his agent) by stringing us alone without any hope.

Everyone involved in this, from the production studio to the author to us, the fans, has a vested interest in not just creating buzz but in actually making a S2 happen. Simply from a business standpoint, it's better business to supply an in-demand product than to not. Attention spans -- and business experts' opinions of attention spans, which is almost more important -- are famously short nowadays. Businesses cannot and do not plan on a small injection to produce long-lasting loyalty and results -- and when they do, like Netflix has been, it bites them in the rear repeatedly.

The sad, sorry fact is that they can't be open and transparent with us about renewal efforts, you're completely right about that. The legalities of contracts and deals within the media industry demand absolute silence until the ink is dry, and sometimes for a bit after that. To use a recent example, the showrunner for Warrior Nun tweeted in March that the show being saved would be because of fan efforts to make it happen. A full 3 months later, he was allowed to announce that the show had officially been picked up. The wheels of media move slowly, but they move.

When does clowning become delusion? The only situation where it would would be if CF came out and told us to stop and that there was no chance. Barring that, it doesn't become delusion. We like to toss around the term 'clowning' -- and it's a fun term that we, the mods, use regularly -- but all we're referring to is the process of distilling what we see into tangible data.

I don't mean to make it sound like some scientific process, but...isn't it? Isn't this all some grand experiment in the name of a grand hobby?

We plot, we plan, we infer, we record, and at the end of the day we turn all of that effort into tangible results. Those results -- trending every single day since cancellation, usually with multiple hashtags/phrases, numerous articles written about the show, its cancellation, and the efforts to save it, a petition with nearly 25k signatures, award nominations, you name it -- are very real, and very helpful.

While ultimately we can't sign the contracts or enact the business deals that will cement our pick-up -- trust us, if we could, they'd be signed by now -- we can provide strong reasons through our engagement for business to want us. The higher we raise demand, the more of a no-brainer providing supply -- a second season -- is.

To all of LockNation, we thank you for your continued efforts. Your tweets, posts, fanart, fanfic, hashtags, signatures, articles, and most importantly, your relentless cheerful dedication, mean the world. We heartily thank you and we heartily encourage you to take breaks, to take care of yourselves. We're confident that, in the future, we will be able to look down at our little skiff made of paper and find that it was made of sterner stuff than we thought.

We're confident in the continued future of Lockwood and Co. We can do this. Look to other successful campaigns; we may have months to go, but we can get through them and come out the victors on the other end.

#save lockwood and co #lockwood & co #lockwood and co #l&co #encouragement post #answer post

[petruchio]

“The other tributes begin to line up as well. I'm confused because, while they all are angry, some are giving us sympathetic pats on the shoulder, and Johanna Mason actually stops to straighten my pearl necklace.“Make him pay for it, okay?” she says.”

The hunger games supreme, i would die if you analysed the scene with the other victors seeing katniss in the wedding dress for the interviews

u know what's so exciting anon is that i'm visiting my parents for the next week and a half so i have access to my physical copies of the trilogy now and i literally saw this ask and grabbed my copy of cf off the shelf so we could get analyzing together. so let's dive in...

so looking at what comes directly before that passage, we have this:

The other tributes have already gathered offstage and are talking softly, but when Peeta and I arrive, they fall silent. I realize everyone's staring daggers at my wedding dress. Are they jealous of it's beauty? The power it might have to manipulate the crowd? Finally Finnick says, “I can't believe Cinna put you in that thing.”

i think it's interesting that the katniss jumps to jealousy here, because at this point in the novel she's still under the impression that they're all *actually* competing -- she's not in on the plan for the rebellion yet, so her understanding of everyone's actions in catching fire is that they are her opponents. in a way it kind of parallels how she feels about peeta in the first novel: she interprets him as an adversary, though she later discovers (as do we) that he was always trying to help her. the same is true of her relationships with finnick and johanna in the second book.

so from that perspective, how do we interpret finnick's comment here? because he knows about the rebellion, and he also knows that katniss DOESN'T. i don't know if we can know for sure whether or not he knows about cinna's involvement though -- so either he does know cinna is a rebel and is horrified at how blatantly he'd use katniss to rebel against the capitol without her knowledge (almost taking advantage of her naivety?) OR he doesn't know about cinna's involvement and is disgusted by his invocation of the wedding and the k/p love narrative, which we know all the other victors (at this point) believe to be a sham. i'm not sure how i read that, so i'd be curious what other people think -- those are just my initial thoughts. either way, i think he pities her because he recognizes that she doesn’t understand the full implication of what she’s wearing.

then the there's the passage you mentioned, which opens with this:

"Cashmere tosses her flowing blond curls back and spits out, "Well, you look ridiculous!" She grabs her brother's hand and pulls him into place to lead our procession onto the stage."

let's assume cashmere also believes the love story is an act. she's probably saying it's "ridiculous" to keep this ruse going, because the assumption is that katniss is going to turn on peeta as soon as they get into the arena and single-mindedly fight for her own survival -- and since we're presuming katniss doesn't actually love peeta, the wedding dress is just another representation of how performative the whole thing is. the rest of the victors are probably thinking -- can't she just drop the act already so we can get going. only katniss and peeta both play it UP instead, and furthermore, katniss ISN'T trying to kill peeta. she's trying to keep him alive.

then comes the quote you pulled -- "Make him pay for it." but what follows that quote is katniss thinking about what johanna meant by that:

"This is the first time I realize the depth of betrayal felt among the victors and the rage that accompanies it."

katniss hasn't had time to think about the betrayal of it as deeply because she never truly got comfortable in her role as a victor -- she's never mentored anyone, she's never experienced the games as anything but a passive viewer and then as a tribute. so i think there's something interesting here in that she's starting to understand the complex relationship of the capitol and their exploitation of the victors. obviously she knows she's being exploited on the victory tour -- but she sees that still as just a game of protecting her family, keeping up the act so that prim doesn't get hurt. but i think this passage shows her the humanity and complexities of those she formerly perceived as the "privileged ones"

basically that is to say, we've discussed before how the arc of a lot of the hunger games is about katniss stripping away the social codes and assumptions she makes about people and seeing them and their humanity as they are. and i think her reaction to the interviews is an example of her realizing that the other victors are being exploited by the capitol just as much as they are benefitting from its supposed benevolence. sure, the victors are rich -- but that comes at the cost of their autonomy. so while they might be rich enough to buy enough food and to live in fancy houses, they can't live their lives for themselves, because the capitol is the arbiter of all that wealth, and thus they are slaves to the whims of the population.

katniss feels this on a personal level in the first half of catching fire -- in the absence of her purpose in life being to procure food to keep her family alive, she SHOULD feel free to move and act as she pleases. only she can't, because she can't disappear into the woods with gale and kiss him without the president literally showing up at her house and threatening her. and i think this passage marks the beginning of a turning point for katniss in understanding that those feelings, while specific and personal to her own unique situation, are a form of suffering shared by all the victors.

essentially, she's coming to terms with the fact that the culture's abuse of celebrities is not a problem unique to her and peeta but rather is something systemic and points to a much larger system of exploitation and inequality in the nation at large.

#answered #anonymous #i feel like this was one of my... “thinking out loud” posts #so if you get to the end lmk haha #thg thoughts #thg

[thesweetnessofspring]

In your opinion, please rate thg movie series with 1-5 scale.

(1 = I hate it, 3=neutral, 5 = I love it.)

1.The Hunger Games :

Things that you like :

Things that you don't like :

2.Cathing Fire :

Things that you like :

Things that you don't like :

3.Mockingjay part 1 :

Things that you like :

Things that you don't like :

4.Mockingjay part 2 :

Things that you like :

Things that you don't like :

Thank you 😊

@curiousnonny

So honestly I think I've seen each of the movies like...twice for Mockingjay 1 and 2 and three times for THG and CF. The movies are basically an opportunity to have gifs displaying events in the book more than movies for me. But here we go:

The Hunger Games: 2.5. I like the opening with the interview with Seneca Crane and then transitioning to Prim's screams. I overall like the casting--they should have gone for POC Seam characters, but Woody and Jen are at least good in their parts and Gale could have been played by a cardboard cutout for all I care about him (which is basically what Liam Hemsworth was). I do like the Crane and Snow peeks. Dislike: Shaky cam. Terrible, nonsensical bread scene. Cutting out Madge. The gruesomeness of their injuries being sanitized. Cutting down Everlark. Peeta lost his cheekiness and endearing qualities (not Josh's fault, it's the script/direction). The cave scene is disappointing. Get Gale out of my face during the Everlark kiss please. Taking out how desperate Katniss was to save Peeta and reducing her to rebelling and him to being an idiot in love was AGH. The ending is also super rushed. And cutting out Peeta being an amputee!!!

Catching Fire: 3.75. I love this movie from the Reaping onward. There are little things I'd change, like Peeta giving Katniss the pearl after the beach kiss so he'd recognize she was still planning on dying for him. But again, good casting for new parts, good expansion with Plutarch/Snow, they kept up the tension and shot the action really well. Dislike: Too much Everthorne (SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE KISSED HIM BEFORE GOING TO THE QUELL AGHHHH). Softening Gale too much (having him save a woman from a whipping instead of being caught poaching, reducing the fight he had with Katniss and his pettiness about Peeta and Haymitch to him just wanting to fight against the Capitol). Not even referencing Haymitch's games was a bummer. And a repeat of Peeta not being an amputee in the Games. This is definitely the strongest out of all of them.

Mockingjay Part 1: 3.25. I like for the movie that they replaced Fulvia with Effie. Jen and Josh are at their acting peak in this movie. Snow taunting Katniss during the rescue and the quote "It's the things we love most that destroy us." Dislike: Once again things are too sanitized. Cutting out the prep team being abused by 13. Also too much Everthorne. They needed to add more rifts between them as it was in the book.

Mockingjay Part 2: 2.5. It's shot well. Um. Idk, it follows the plot of the book so for me that's always an automatic 2 points at least. Donald Sutherland shined in this one as Snow. Dislike: This is when things being sanitized bothers me the most. Katniss should be absolutely DESTROYED at the end of the war, as should Peeta. They screwed up Everlark post-war. Katniss returning from hunting when she first sees Peeta instead of emerging from the worst of her depression and PTSD and grief was a misstep, as well as Everlark not sharing even a kiss post-war. The filmmakers were just cowards when it came to Everlark.

Personally I'm still advocating for a THG animated series. The movies had a lot they were trying to cram in for a movie runtime and were limited in terms of timeline. Maybe if TBOSAS does well Hollywood will come to return to an established property.

#the hunger games #catching fire #mockingjay part 1 #mockingjay part 2 #curiousnonny #anon ask #everlark #let's be honest if they'd done everlark right the movies would have drastically improved #but for some reason that was like the number 1 thing they just couldn't figure out how to do right #they had this weird “we want the hype and success of twilight without the stink of it” so it made the love triangle weird #bringing out gale and reducing peeta it was awful and the weakest part of the movie franchise #so yeah more everlark and more gruesomeness of the actual games and war and their repercussions

[bibbibib]

What's your favorite character from all across THG trilogy & TBOSAS?

Why do you like this character?

Favorite quote or moment from them?

Please state one (or more) thing which you don't like from them.

Thank you 😊

@curiousthg

Hi anon!

So here I am going to be basic and say that to me, it's a tie between Katniss and Peeta.

There's plenty of characters across the books I like, and also several I find fascinating, but I love these two in particular. I love how Katniss, for all her skill and bravery and the heroic colours she's being painted with, is first and foremost a realistic 16 year old girl, who kids herself, has insecurities and fears, and feels like a real person and not a stereotype. It isn't a particular thing I like about her, but rather how the combination of her traits creates something ordinary in its extraordinariness, without treating her characterisation and development as an either-or. I love how she is hesitant and scared of romantic relationships, how she can be grumpy and lets-get-it-over-with and at the same time endlessly caring, how her emotions are complicated and her interests across the board. As for Peeta, a lot of the same things apply to him also - lets give a round of applause for Suzanne's characterisation - but some specific things that stand out to me is his steadiness and resillience and his quick mind that presents in a way that is more sweet than biting. I love kind characters who aren't naive.

I think a favourite moment of mine that includes both of them is the compliment battle in THG. Also the cheese buns-training period in CF. I love to read their bantering together. Katniss' narration throughout the book has a lot of moments that have me rolling, and I think I'd really enjoy anything from Peeta's POV if Suzanne had written it, what with his humour and way with words and all.

As for things I don't like about them, this is a rare case where I don't really want to say anything about that. Do they have flaws as people? Absolutely, and there's several points where I disagree with their actions, but I feel all of them are neccessary for them to be good characters. So I'll let those pass.

#the hunger games #peeta mellark #katniss everdeen #analysis #thg #ask answered

[admireforever]

"As I drift off, I try to imagine that world, somewhere in the future, with no Games, no Capitol. A place like the meadow in the song I sang to Rue as she died. Where Peeta's child could be safe" - Katniss, Catching Fire

#catching fire #hunger games #quote #quotes #the hunger games #cf #thg cf #katniss #katniss everdeen #peeta mellark #Peeta #katnnis and peeta #peeta and katniss #katniss x peeta #peeta x katniss #everlark #peeniss #suzanne collins #book quotes

[carriesthewind]

A bit late to your 2 Stupid 2 Sanction series, but even though I've followed this case of stupidity for weeks your descriptions and analysis were very enlightening! Thanks so much! Also, remember how at the start of this series your response to the line "the Court is presented with an unprecedented circumstance" was that "the only thing worse is when judges start quoting classic literature." Footnote 12 of the Order of Sanctions made me audibly groan "oh... fuck."

My apologies for the very late response!

Thank you!

(footnote 12, for reference: Cf. Lewis Carroll, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, 79 (Puffin Books ed. 2015) (1865):

“Take some more tea,” the March Hare said to Alice, very earnestly. “I’ve had nothing yet,” Alice replied in an offended tone, “so I can’t take more.” “You mean you can’t take less,” said the Hatter: “it’s very easy to take more than nothing.”)

I was pretty sure it was coming from my first post, given the tenor of the show cause order. Honestly, what I'm more surprised by is how relevant the tangent I went on in the first post about how to read a case citation turned out to be. I did not intend that to be foreshadowing!

#ask

[anghraine]

viveperdiemnoctemque replied to this post:

can i ask what you mean by “anglodor”? is it like. gondor modeled on english cities (of a certain time period)?

Oh, it's a term one of my followers came up with in replies to my rants about the perception of Gondor's culture and people as, well, Anglo (not in reference to a particular period). It's influenced by the fixation on Tolkien's English inspirations even though he was inspired by many other things and explicitly said so, and he emphasized this with Gondor in particular:

But this is not a purely 'Nordic’ area in any sense. If Hobbiton and Rivendell are taken (as intended) to be at about the latitude of Oxford, then Minas Tirith, 600 miles south, is at about the latitude of Florence. The Mouths of Anduin and the ancient city of Pelargir are at about the latitude of ancient Troy.

we come to the half-ruinous Byzantine City of Minas Tirith

In the south Gondor rises to a peak of power, almost reflecting Númenor, and then fades slowly to decayed Middle Age, a kind of proud, venerable, but increasingly impotent Byzantium.

The Númenóreans of Gondor were proud, peculiar, and archaic, and I think are best pictured in (say) Egyptian terms. In many ways they resembled ‘Egyptians’ - the love of, and power to construct, the gigantic and massive. And in their great interest in ancestry and in tombs.

I think the crown of Gondor (the S. Kingdom) was very tall, like that of Egypt, but with wings attached, not set straight back but at an angle. The N. Kingdom had only a diadem (III 323). Cf. the difference between the N. and S. kingdoms of Egypt.

Etc.

The other influence is, of course, the Peter Jackson films, which made a few half-assed stabs at Byzantine imagery while mostly defaulting to general NW European or specifically English fantasy tropes and casting Anglo actors (some literally English, most light-haired as well) as the main Gondorian characters. This is especially glaring because it was clearly important to them that the Rohirrim "looked right" in terms of culture and coloring, but Gondorians, hobbits, etc are cast pretty much exactly the same and that umm choice has profoundly impacted the popular sense of what Middle-earth represents.

(It's worth mentioning, in addition, that most of these quotes are in reference to Númenórean Gondorians, who constitute most of the Gondorians we meet. But there are also other Gondorian ethnic groups, too, including people who are principally descended from the ancient inhabitants of the area and described as short and dark-skinned. The book's description of them in the book is pretty racist and colonialist IMO, but their existence is canon and they're depicted as unambiguously heroic, so even fidelity logic didn't require the casting and imagery to be Like That.)

#viveperdiemnoctemque #respuestas #ondonórë blogging #legendarium blogging #legendarium fanwank #pj critical

[hottakememes]

"This new 'virtual' community allows women to think of themselves in new ways and, for a moment, outside of household relations where their role and position was subordinate to that of men. The supplemental form of identity provided by the metaphor of the city allows women to develop a sense of themselves in solidarity with a new transhistorical community of women who have shown great qualities and who have done worthy things. This solidarity with an alternative community of virtue offers women a deeper sense of their true capacities and more meaningful models of fulfillment. So Christine adopts the metaphor of the city from Augustine to motivate and encourage women who suffer from the same feelings of despondency as the character Christine at the start of The Book of the City of Ladies [1405]. Since women are invited to identify with this new community, they can find the support and inspiration needed to counteract further misogynist arguments in wider cultural venues—arguments that had undermined their confidence and sense of worth. In addition, and this is a crucial distinction, whereas entry into Augustine's city is in the hands of divine judgment, Christine the author places responsibility for the continued growth and maintenance of her community in the hands of women themselves. Members of the City of Ladies will remain unknown to one another unless women themselves do the work of keeping alive their reputations. In other words, their ultimate destiny as a community lies neither in divine intervention, nor in fate, but rather in the continued acts of virtue and the continued efforts of mutual recognition and remembrance. [...] The building of the City of Ladies is presented to us as an ongoing enterprise—one that can be sustained and strengthened through constant additional acts of virtue and solidarity on women’s part. Christine depicts her city not simply as a community but more specifically as a fortress—one that provides, all at once, deterrence against future attacks, security, healing, and consolation [...]"

(from Sophie Bourgault and Rebecca Kingston, Introduction to The Book of the City of Ladies and Other Writings (Indianapolis/Cambridge: Hackett Publishing Company, Inc., 2018), xxiii–xxiv)

*quote by Gerwig in image taken from Abby Aguirre, "Barbiemania! Margot Robbie Opens Up About the Movie Everyone's Waiting For," Vogue, May 2023, online.

cf. Lady Reason to the character Christine: "But, to return to the creation of the body, woman was made by the Divine Craftsman. And where was she created? In the Earthly Paradise. And from what? Was it a vile material? On the contrary! It was from the noblest material ever created, the body of man, that God made woman." (Christine de Pizan, The Book of the City of Ladies, I.9)

#barbie #greta gerwig #barbieland #barbie movie #christine de pizan #le livre de la cité des dames #the book of the city of ladies #la cité des dames #the city of ladies #vogue

[ilrefantasma]

𝕹ico di 𝕬ngelo and Chronic Fatigue 

I have ME/CFS, also known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and currently I’m going through a flare-up. 

Thinking about Nico as a person with CFS isn’t just calming and comfortable for me personally, but I also find it very fitting. I’ve seen theories before that Nico might be anemic, and I’m not dismissing them nor am I claiming CFS!Nico to be canon. However, with some symptoms being specific to just CFS, I find it to be very fitting. 

Nico having CFS just makes sense to me, and because it makes sense, I think he’d be a good representation for people like me. 

First, I’d like to enlist and describe symptoms of CFS and how they feel for me. Every person’s experience with CFS is unique, as some people get all symptoms and some get only the “major” ones. 

☠ Lowered ability to do activities accompanied with fatigue.  CFS makes people experience fatigue intense enough to lower one’s ability to do much. Some people with CFS grow bed bound while some retain the ability to do activities, but need a long recharge period after. For some people, it’s hours or days while for others it’s longer. The length varies. 

☠ Fatigue that isn’t resolved by sleep.  While short naps aren’t going to make you feel worse, CFS fatigue isn’t resolved by sleep. People with CFS tend to pass out multiple times whenever fatigue hits, and it’s hard for us to stay awake. 

☠ Post-exertion malaise/fatigue.  This is one of the symptoms typical of specifically CFS that doesn’t overlap with conditions such as anemia. People with CFS get hit with fatigue after strenuous activities, and it doesn’t have to be an activity that is very energy consuming. For some of us, even standing up for too long might be malaise-inducing. 

☠ Sleep disturbances.  CFS affects one’s sleep in multiple ways. People with this condition tend to either have very poor sleep routine, wake up a lot at night, be unable to fall asleep or, on the contrary, have issues with constantly falling asleep. It depends on a person. 

☠ Unpredictable crashes/relapses of fatigue.  Fatigue in CFS comes on very suddenly. Sometimes it hits us during the day while sometimes we can have most of the day without getting fatigue and only have it hit at nighttime. Aside from being triggered with activity, CFS fatigue is fairly random. 

☠ Feeling dizzy, not thinking properly, having brain fog.  CFS is a complicated disorder that manifests neurologically, alongside other physiological manifestations. Because of that, it can cause brain fog, typical of other nerve disorders. It tends to lead to us thinking with difficulty and needing more time to process information. 

☠ Memory problems.  Alongside brain fog, CFS tends to affect our memory capacities. People with this condition often have issues remembering things, and some of us might even develop short-term memory loss. It isn’t a symptom that’s present in all of us, but, again, a common one. 

☠ Shortness of breath, irregular heartbeat.  CFS causes a lot of us to be out of breath after activities that are too strenuous for our bodies, or have unusually fast heartbeat whenever we experience a flare-up. Under this condition, the heartbeat and breathing abnormalities are way more intense than those in people without CFS doing intense exercises or heavily strenuous tasks. 

☠ Rare symptoms: rashes, weight changes, seizures, infections, canker sores, allergies.  These symptoms are self-explanatory. They are fairly rare in people with CFS, but they can’t be dismissed as possible comorbidities. 

Examples & Commentary:  "I don't sleep too well...", "...managed to put all the dead to sleep but nearly passed out himself...", "...the more Nico did it, the more tired he seemed...", "...tired . . . couldn't summon a dog bone...", "...great need to take a nap, Wake me up later.", etc. 

There are more examples within the books that I couldn’t present because it’d include quoting or retelling whole chapters or paragraphs of text.  Nico is canonly portrayed as someone who fits the blueprint for CFS. He has very low energy and is often shown tired and exhausted - more so than any other character. He is seen growing tired after using his powers, which seems to be a strenuous task for him. While other characters are depicted growing tired after excessive physical exercise, Nico is the only one who’s shown passing out or nearly passing out after using his powers. He’s been shown getting short of breath after shadow-travelling, too. Memory issues and problems thinking are something that was also shown in his appearances. He suffers from chronic nightmares and sleep disturbances where he has trouble falling asleep and constantly needs to nap. It gets so bad that Will has to carry a travel pillow for him.

Additionally, Nico is shown to need sugary snacks after some of his travels, which might point out to him getting hypoglycemic, which is a common CFS comorbidity. 

#+†+ Χάρυβδις +†+ #pjo #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #trials of apollo #the sun and the star #nico di angelo #hoo #toa #tsats #rrverse