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penguwastaken · 20 days

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On ‘Danganronpa Togami’ also, I would be of the viewpoint that most of what happened in the present in terms of actual events not merely spoken of was real (unlike the interpretation of certain others) and that the way Borges worked was essentially like a more advanced versions of the vision filters from ‘Black Mirror’, replacing what was seen/heard by Blue Ink with regards to the identities of (some of) the people who were being encountered then being obscured/replaced with others if they seemed to contradict what Blue Ink’s reality (as Byakuya’s biographer) was supposed to be, and what words they were saying. That what can be guaranteed to have been real 100% would be those scenes Borges wouldn’t have had the right context to in order to properly filter it off into something else, like most of the Ultimate Despair encounters, Byakuya calling Junko, the brief Mukuro encounter, Toko showing up and Genocide Jill going into action, etc., as well as any information given by characters in the games (like there being 15 to 108 Togami siblings). One particular fan theory building on this concept that I like being that the real Shinobu who died was the actual decapitator in the island flashbacks, Borges having switched around the identities of the major players in terms of what they did in presenting a facsimile of the past for her to look back upon. And that while the Ultimate Imposter may very well have been one of the many Togami siblings, it didn’t matter anymore to his present goals with Ultimate Despair, the ‘Kazuya’ Orvin made that way basically to see how his original plan might have gone if he hadn’t met Junko. It was a trilogy that seemed to assume one had played the other games/read the other novels, that its readership would understand what certain things would be referring to, even if not explicitly spelled out.

What would be your thoughts on the trilogy?

If you want a very short description of my opinion of Danganronpa Togami, it's basically this image.

I can't help but think that maybe if i read the Kaguya Family Saga novels or if there were just better full translations, maybe i would have liked Danganronpa Togami more. But the truth is, I REALLY don't like Danganronpa Togami. It's honestly one of the worst media experiences I've ever had 😭

My biggest gripe is that i hate that any flaw with its storytelling can be exempt by just saying "well actually it was all fake and you don't know what's real and what isn't" because that just makes it worth nothing, if the bad stuff can be exempt then so can the good stuff. And it is HEAVILY implied that a majority of the novel is fake, the themes rely on it, it's the main point of the novel. And if they were real, that would make it actual dogshit and also just noncanon because it would contradict Danganronpa 3 and Zero.

I genuinely can't tell if I really like the twist or if I really hate it because it makes so much sense in retrospect but getting to that point was an actual pain to read, and the implications of it are also so baffling.

There's so much god awful stuff in this book like Kazuya and Suzuhiko, the weird recurring incest stuff, Byakuya's really bad and flanderized characterization, and all the absurd stuff that happens like Sakura projecting herself or the despair novel but it's all dismissed by the "it was all made up" thing which is so awesome but so stupid at the same time. If that twist was in literally any other novel I might like it but it's handled so poorly that I end up despising it.

Basically, I don't like this novel. And while parts of it matter, for the most part it can be easily dismissed because most of it was canonically made up.

I shouldn't have to read a completely separate book series to enjoy this. There was no need for all of the gross and poorly handled incest and sexual abuse stuff. Byakuya's characterization just makes him insufferable and his entire motive and actions is kind of gross. And to top it all off, NONE of it mattered. It's not like V3 where the events had an effect on the people involved or changed something, the book literally just describes it as another weekend in Byakuya's life and it's all forgotten and most of it didn't even happen. I sat through all of that for none of it to even matter. Basically what it results is self nullifying nonsense that means literally nothing as none of the events happened.

I'm sorry if you like this trilogy, I just can't find many positives. I went in thinking that maybe the hate for it was unfounded, I wanted to like it. I mean, I think Danganronpa 3 is great, I found redeeming qualities in Danganronpa S and Ultra Despair Girls. So if anyone can find something to like in an unpopular piece of Danganronpa media, it would be me. And honestly volume 1 wasn't even that bad, I remember thinking that it was kinda dumb but harmless. But my experience with Danganronpa Togami can best be described as a decent into madness. I have a lot of issues with it, but that's just my opinion.

#danganronpa #dangan ronpa #dr togami #danganronpa togami #danganronpa novels #danganronpa novel #danganronpa book

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mikuwwwwwwwww · 8 months

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im sorry,my dear A...

#the promise of hope #sasha sobakin #sasha #art #draw #paper #обещание надежды #саша собакин #саша #рисунок #арт #данганронпа #данганронпа новелла #danganronpa #danganronpa novel #SoundCloud

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shslfemboy · 2 months

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I finally finished reading Danganronpa Zero and Man.

I was NOT expecting the things in the final chapters

very good book, I'm glad I took the time to read it, gives a lot of insight on the situation at hope's peak right after the first tragedy, specially on Junko (her relationship with Matsuda made me a bit insane in the head ngl)

I recommend the read for those who are into lore stuff! I plan to read Danganronpa: Kirigiri next. it's SEVEN books tho... wish me luck lmao that will be a whole journey

#danganronpa zero #danganronpa 0 #danganronpa spoilers #danganronpa #danganronpa novel

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ultimateplaylistmaker · 1 year

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What I find funny too is that that game was directed by the author of ‘Danganronpa Kirigiri’ — that he was given free reign on making a spin-off game based on his book series, and he instead decided on an original storyline serving as a crossover sequel with another game.

Danganronpa translate these games and books and stuff over to english already im begging

#like yeah theres fantranslations #but i want it to become more mainstreamed in the fandom #kirigiriso #danganronpa novel

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notoh-dev · 1 month

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Showcasing some more sprites! (Perry's my favorite thus far)

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tunacann · 29 days

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Happy B-Day Nagito Komaeda (2024)

#nagito #nagito komaeda #sdr2 #sdr2 goodbye despair #danganronpa 2 #danganronpa #danganronpa fanart #fanart #anime #game fanart #visual novel #super danganronpa 2 #super danganronpa goodbye despair #super danganronpa two #sdr2 komaeda #danganronpa komaeda

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hopeymchope · 7 months

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The entire "Danganronpa Kirigiri" series is now available in English.

I don't do Reddit much, which is probably why I only just learned yesterday (courtesy of @vampietears) that Danganronpa Kirigiri Volumes 1-7 have all been translated into English and made available as PDF versions in the past year.

I searched Tumblr for any mention of this and found absolutely none, so I feel confident that I'm far from the only person who didn't know these were available.

CLEAR YOUR SCHEDULES, DR fans! It's definitely going to take me some time to work through the whole series, but I hope (eh? eeeehhh?) to enjoy the process.

#drk #danganronpa kirigiri #dr kirigiri #danganronpa light novels #dr light novels #kyoko kirigiri #kyouko kirigiri #dr translations #yui samidare

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loobonx1 · 1 month

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Heyy, heres a stupid image of my insanity (the fictional crushes wall)

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literallyroselacroix · 2 months

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TOXIC YURI 😱😱😱

#danganronpa despair time #veronika grebenshchikova #teruko tawaki #drdt #fanganronpa #art #visual novels

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roseluwakcoffee · 7 months

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Danganronpa is such a series bc why the hell does Kyoko have a seven volume mystery story detailing a whole plot about some underground murder game and intricacies of the detective system in graphic detail while I know all of five facts about Makoto's childhood. Like damn what was his favorite toy or something

#ig udg gives us more facts than some other students get #but hes the main boy. togami also gets a three novel series #they even planned dr yamada and dr hagakure #but not a damn thing for the ultimate hope. its so funny #i just feel like the dr writers be writing whatever they want #dr1 #kyoko kirigiri #makoto naegi #danganronpa #drk

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tlblitz · 1 year

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#zero escape #danganronpa #ace attorney #aitsf #yttd #ghost trick #visual novels #there was A LOT of debate about my final official candidate #I’m curious to see how many of the narrow misses get write-ins

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penguwastaken · 20 days

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What do you think of the fan theory on ‘Licorne/Lico’ (established as an alias) the androgynous detective from the ‘Danganronpa Kirigiri’ book series being a young Junko, during her ‘homeless’ years between the flashback of ‘Danganronpa Zero’ and even entering the fashion industry at all? While she was still figuring out what to do with her life? It was apparently a semi-common theory in Japan (that people would independently think up of), given how similar the characters are and how it would add new context to why Junko erased almost all of Kyoko’s memories beyond just Hope’s Peak, if they’d really known each other before. I don’t know a huge amount about the books, but on paper the theory sounds very interesting, to inquire as to your thoughts on it.

The "Junko is Licorne" theory is one that I like in concept, but I believe there is a more satisfying connection to them other than "they're the same person." There are undoubtedly a lot of similarities between them, though there are holes in this theory that kinda make it fall apart.

*Spoilers for the Danganronpa series, especially Danganronpa Kirigiri, go read that

Now let's start by going over the evidence for this theory.

Both are motivated by boredom and wanting to entertain themselves

Both have a similar personality

Licorne is androgynous, and while most people refer to him as a boy (hence why I'm using male pronouns), his sex is unknown

The word "despair" is written near a lot of crime scenes in Danganronpa Kirigiri (though it's unknown if Licorne is the one writing it)

Both have a similar eye color, perhaps meaning both are wearing the same contacts

Both are extremely analytical, smart, and capable, which ultimately leads to their boredom

Them being the same would give added context to Junko erasing all of Kyoko's memories

Now on paper, it sounds like a pretty solid theory. They have a lot of similarities after all. Unfortunately, there are some holes in this theory.

If the writers intended for Licorne to be Junko, then why didn't they reveal that? Danganronpa is a series that usually tries to pay off the mysteries it sets up, so why would they leave this seemingly important one just unanswered?

We already know Licorne's identity. Licorne is a child named Rei Mikagami who was sent to an orphanage after his parents died. This immediately contradicts Junko's backstory, who was homeless for a lot of her childhood. Later on, during the events of Kirigiri, he lives with Gekka Ryuzoji. Also since we know his real name is Rei Mikagami, and assuming he is the same person as Junko, then how come he never calls Junko that? Yasuke and Junko were childhood best friends, he would have known Junko's hypothetical true identity because he knew her as a child. But he never calls Junko Rei because Junko's true identity is simply just Junko. The flashback in Danganronpa Zero tells us one thing, Junko was always the way she is. She never "became" Junko, she just was. Basically, Rei and Junko lived completely separate lives and it's impossible that Kirigiri takes place in between that flashback and Junko joining the fashion industry.

As for giving added context to Junko erasing all of Kyoko's memories, it really doesn't. Trigger Happy Havoc makes it pretty clear that the reason Junko erased all of Kyoko's memories is because Kyoko is a skilled detective with years of experience, and thus would be a threat to the killing game. Kyoko wouldn't have even been able to recognize her as Rei because they both look hardly alike.

So yeah, while it's a neat theory, I think it's pretty safe to say it wasn't intended. But if they're not the same person, then how do you explain why they're so similar?

I believe that Licorne and Junko are supposed to be parallels. They lived similar lives, have similar talents, a similar mindset, etc. But where Junko used her abilities for evil, Licorne used his for good. When Licorne eventually grows tired, we see that he's sad and doesn't know what to do, but goes off into the unknown to find something. I believe Licorne is supposed to represent a Junko where they didn't turn to despair. Thematic parallels basically. And I think that explanation works a lot better than them just being the same person. Those are my thoughts at least.

#danganronpa #danganronpa zero #dr0 #dr #danganronpa 0 #danganronpa kirigiri #danganronpa book #danganronpa novel #kirigiri #dangan ronpa #junko enoshima #danganronpa junko #dr junko #licorne #rei mikagami

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tokiwigiwi · 5 months

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