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vio-marks · 6 months

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it's late at night, look at vio-werewire

#art #furry art #furry #oc #sfw furry #my oc #artists on tumblr #demon #demon oc #deltarune #dr #utdr #werewire

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keylee · 7 months

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CHARACTER BELONGS TO @kenziebluebun

I LOVE THEIR WEREWIRESPAMTON SO MUCH I HAD TO DRAW HIM!!

#deltarune #spamton #spamton g spamton #art #ut dr #not my oc #other person's oc #werewire

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manofthepipis · 9 months

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Do you think Spamton would have a personal problem with the existence of werewires and werewerewires? Considering that they're all actually Plugboys who are being controlled by wires/strings against their will, I was thinking that he might

Love your fics btw!! A relatively small number of Deltarune fics actually have Darkners using their magic regularly (or at all) and it's really cool to see in yours

honestly, spamton is the sort of guy who id imagine is so uber-focused on his schemes and neo, he doesn't care much for what unenlightened darkners are going through, and if anything he'd find some cruel, ironic humor in it considering the werewires are being controlled by queen, who's another darkner. Having a greater understanding of what's truly going on, the werewires' control is small potatoes to him, which is why he doesn't care about having them being additional victims of noelle's freeze sweep in snowgrave so he can take over the mansion.

yet i could also see it as unnerving him too, as his encounter with Kris immediately has him talking about his [[Silly Strings]], but what they have in common that the werewires dont is that they're both controlled by a higher power outside of the dark world, beyond their influence. Because he is unnerved, perhaps he's extra cautious of avoiding the werewires over other cyber city darkners.

Also, some werewires don't mind being controlled in the gameplay and they're totally chill with it, going about their lives when Queen isn't controlling them in the moment, so I can imagine a funny scenario of Spamton tryna get some help from some plugboys/werewires to get into the mansion in exchange for his help cutting their ties to Queen, but he's rlly shady about it and the answer he gets is a hard No. Like, they may be peons of Queen, but they trust her more than some smelly unhinged salesman who scared them half to death by leaping out of some manhole in the ground.

also tysm!! that means a lot :D! their magic was the highlight of their characters for me (particularly spamton's) because it's all just so goofy and cool at the same time. I love writing it so i'm glad hearing ppl like it!

#asks #srry i got carried away with this ask #i love going into depth over minor dr characters as well as major ones #and the werewires' designs are so so so cool #like my first playthrough when i considered spamton as just Some Guy and i didn't care much for him #the werewires were my favorite to fight #only toby fox could reimagine outlets as like werewolves when something gets plugged into them #it's so darn creative

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snowdewdreams · 2 years

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Do the Wires in Deltarune Chapter 2 Represent Control? And What Can They Tell Us?

As many are aware, Deltarune has an overarching theme of control and freedom—with the player’s control over Kris and the strings restraining Spamton like a puppet being the most well-known examples.

However, I believe there are other instances of this concept that may be foreshadowing for where this theme is headed in future chapters. In particular, the Queen’s wires shown throughout Chapter 2 might hold greater narrative importance than what meets the eye.

Throughout the Cyber World, Kris and friends continually encounter the Werewire enemy. In fact, a Werewire duo is the first battle in the chapter. What were once meek little socket fellows grow into a much more chaotic-looking creature after becoming connected. Could this have some implications for Kris? Perhaps they feel more empowered when someone else is in control? Regardless, the Werewire sets the stage for something I believe is much more significant—the Werewerewire.

Does this battle description hint at Kris’s fate, and if so, what could that mean for the future of the story? By absorbing the wire, the Werewire was able to become stronger. So does this mean that Kris will attempt to become one with us, the player, or at least try to take whatever power we have and live independently? Maybe we’ll see one of the hidden bosses in a later chapter attempt to fuse with their controller?

Regardless, I’d like to discuss another character and their relation to wires and control. That being, one Berdley Blue Bird (do we know his last name?)

During the fight against Queen, Berdley is forced to attack the heroes against his will because of the wire plugged into his face. Something I find interesting is how he breaks free from Queen’s control at the end of the battle. In the pacifist run, he’s able to remove the plug on his own after Kris and friends loosen it enough—citing the kindness and mercy of his comrades as the reason he could liberate himself.

However, his freedom plays out differently if you choose to win the battle by attacking Queen instead. After a neutral route victory, Berdley will forcibly tear the wire from his face and severely injure himself in the process. When everyone returns to the light world, the poor lad has a broken wing!

So, what does this mean for Kris? Perhaps this moment foreshadows their possible fates. Maybe they’ll attempt to break free, and succeed with the help of their friends and loved ones. Or, they’ll attempt to remove the player’s control by force and hurt themselves in the process. Whatever may happen, I’m rather curious how Kris’s relationship with the player will play out throughout the coming chapters in Deltarune.

#deltarune #deltarune theory #Kris #Spamton #Queen #Berdley #Werewire #Werewerewire #themes #symbolism #foreshadowing #theory #speculation #Thank You For Reading!#deltarune lore #dr theory

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frostbite-the-bat · 1 year

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Current concept for Masked Werewerewires in DPAU. I will compile a full image of the Plugboy "line" soon, since all I need to do is draw a proper Masked WWWire and decide on the final design.

Infodumping and context below, I would REALLY appreciate if you read it, especially if you are confused about the context behind this! This will talk a lot about Swatchling masks and getting masked, which, if you follow DPAU at least a bit, should be familiar with. However, if you are not, send me an ask, I will very gladly explain it again! DPAU has some complicated concepts and new ideas and rules, and I am always excited to speak about them!

I may compile a new term explanations, since... There's a few. I took DR and made it twice as complicated just for fun, so no wonder.

Here's a quick rundown - When a Plugboy is masked, they become a Tasquefolk. The same species Tasque Manager (also known as Tammy in DPAU).

When a Plugboy is wired, they become a Werewire. This is a transitional state - either shortly before they absorb the wire to become a WWWire, or before they decide that's not for them and return to being a Plugboy.

Or, in case of canon Deltarune occurences - if they are being controlled by someone in power. (In the DPAU world, Plugboys are trying to get to get control wires to be as strictly monitored as Swatchling masks, as they can be used by people in power to use Plugboys/Werewires for their own will. If they aren't mentally strong enough - when being controlled they may not be able to absorb the wire and regain control. Or, some are lucky, and are just abandoned and forgotten about, and can easily unplug themselves. Unfortunately, these wires only work on them, unless there's special ones like the one used on Berdly, though that didn't 'plug' him in. Swatchling masks on the other hand can work on other species. Such as Plugboys....)

A Werewire can not be masked, not only because they themselves are a transitional state* causing the mask to not react, but also because their face is covered up by the wire. For a mask to work, it needs to be placed on the face. (*It's why they flash so many colors! They're deciding on what colors they would stick with as a WWWire! Tasquefolk dont have this - they will share the same/similar coat colors to Plugboys.)

Werewerewires, on the other hand, can be masked, and so this is the form. Unlike Tasquefolk, they are not an unique form, but rather an upgrade form. The only known unique forms caused by the masks are Tasquefolk, and the exact reason why is still being studied, but it is most likely due to the compatibility between Swatchlings and Plugboys as they share a common "ancestor". (Addisons, Swatchlings and Plugboys all share the same "ancestor". They all have very stable masked forms thanks to this. Other species, however, may not. This is why there are laws and strictness around masks! Things could go wrong! Darkners could get corrupted. They could be used by the wrong people.) (I will discuss the topic of these "ancestors" later, again, I encourage you to ask if you do care to know!! It'd be encouraging.)

Upgrade forms are usually just bigger, more powerful forms of a species. They will usually look very similar to their old forms. Often they will gain new quirks and new power. However, masked species were NOT supposed to be a thing. It was a Swatchling thing only, but nature and the dark code of the Cyber World has faults! So they can! So, rather often, the code initially doesn't know what to do, so it may pull things from other species - like how Tasquefolk are look VERY similar to Tasques despite not being related. (Fluffy small colorful guys? Must be an odd Tasque! Add Tasque/cat elements!)

Masked WWWires pull a little from Linxes - my own species I have been working on. Their designs are not finished, however their most recent concept will be posted after this one.

#DPAU #werewerewire #wwwire #masked wwwire #datapack au #deltarune #deltarune chapter 2 #deltarune au #concept #concept art #design concept #i...dont know which tags i used in the past for things like this. so ill use all of these incase i need to grab several of them at once #i have HORRID tag organization #i apologize about that sdgrhrtbh #Guz art

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captainkawaii666 · 9 months

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Alright, here’s a list of all the swaps for my UT and DR AUs. I’ll leave y’all to puzzle out how exactly all these swaps will work until I start actually posting about them. Also, keep in mind that there are some new characters that aren’t specific swaps (including the protagonist for the UT one), and those won’t be listed here. Well then, without further ado, here’s all the swaps (keep in mind they’re in the order the wheel thingy spun them, not order of appearance):

Undertale:

Dummy- Burgerpants

Vegetoid- Astigmatism

Mettaton- Night Knight

Vulkin- Monster Kid

Undyne- Ice Cap

Moldbygg- sans

Frisk- Alphys

Toriel- Loox

Woshua- Pyrope

Whimsalot- Asriel

Greater Dog- Aaron

Shyren- Lesser Dog

W. D. Gaster- Temmie

Chara- Asgore

PAPYRUS- Madjick

Snowdrake- Whimsun

Chilldrake- Froggit

Royal Guards- Muffet

Gyftrot- Dogamy and Dogaressa

Mad Dummy- River Person

Napstablook- Flowey

Glyde- Moldsmal

Gerson- Tsunderplane

Jerry- Everyman

Grillby- Mad Mew Mew

Doggo- Snowman

So Sorry- Catty and Bratty

Deltarune Chapter 1:

Rudinn Ranger- Mr. Society

Ponman- Rouxls Kaard

K. Round- Rabbick

Malius- King

Ralsei- Clover

Seam- Bloxer

Jevil- Former Kings

Lancer- Mr. Elegance

Susie- Kris

Head Hathy- Jigsaw Joe

Jigsawry- Hathy

Rudinn- Starwalker

Deltarune Chapter 2:

Virovirokun- Werewire

Ambyu-Lance- K__K

Capn- Maus

Hacker- Swatchling

Noelle- Berdly

Plugboy- Sweet

Nubert- Werewerewire

Spamton- Trashy

Poppup- Tasque

Queen- Tasque Manager

Swatch- Mauswheel

Rudy- Father Alvin

#undertale #deltarune #utdr #undertale au #deltarune au #i’m really proud of what i came up with for some of these swaps just y’all wait

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debrisyume · 2 years

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Kris and Ralsei wrote The Legend

No this isn’t a “Ralsei and Kris are evil” theory, anyway—

I mentioned in my ‘Kris is the Knight’ theory post that I think the Legend isn’t real (please read that first), here’s a post going into more detail as to why.

Chapter 1 and 2 made it clear that one of the themes about Deltarune is escapism. The Dark Worlds are a fantasy for the main characters, where they get to have cool powers and fun adventures. The Darkners are objects come to life, and each world seems to based on different forms of entertainment: cards and board games for chapter 1, the internet for chapter 2, and chapter 3 seems to be about the TV. We also see that the characters’ weapons and armor are based on mundane objects in the Light World, pencils turns into swords and watches turn into fancy pocket watches, etc.

There’s some question on how exactly the Dark Worlds work, when these characters exist for only a day yet have all these backstories and know residents of different Dark Worlds (Seam, Jevil, and King know Queen, Tasque Manager and Spamton know Jevil, etc). I’ve seen people suspect the fountains are actually a portal to these worlds, that have existed for longer than we think. Queen and a Swatchling, however, says that the Knight ‘created’ this world, and Seam calls the Lightners their ‘creators’ as well. I think it fits better with the escapism theme if the Dark Worlds’ backstories and characters are all creations of someone. I would compare the Knight to a writer, another person might have made the Jack of Spades and the King of Spades cards brothers, but the Knight decided they should be father and son. The Queen didn’t exist until a day later, but the Darkners in the Card Castle world were created to know her anyway, and vice versa.

Some of their memories could be based on things that happened in the Light World, like how Queen knows everyone’s search history, but I don’t think that’s the case for most of this stuff because it doesn’t really make sense for Queen the laptop to be in an elementary school classroom that hasn’t been used for years, yet Seam and Jevil talk about the Queen ‘returning’ and it’s clear her and King have some sort of relationship. So yeah, the Darkners are the Knight’s OCs! It’s essentially a case of last thursdayism, which if you don’t know, it’s the idea that the universe could have been created last Thursday, but we don’t know that because we all have fake memories of it existing for longer.

I think this one line Ralsei says is referencing one of the main themes of the game. Here he’s talking about the made-up word, but meta-wise this is about how the whole Dark World is ‘fake’ the same way fictional stories are fake, and I think that includes the prophecy. It’s not real, but you can still find value in fiction, just like the DR characters can find value in the Darkners and their worlds.

Something interesting about the Computer lab Dark World is how it caters to Noelle. There are multiple medically related enemies (virovirokun makes sense because they’re a virus, but what’s up with ambyu-lance?), the characters wear hospital outfits to spare one of them (there’s a reason why we first thought the next world would be in the hospital), one of the puzzles spells “December”, Noelle talks about Dess taking her to a city and there’s a city in this Dark World even though nothing about a computer world requires a city to exist, especially with a queen around. Noelle and ONLY Noelle gets the flavor text of ‘pulling the plug’ of the Werewires, seemingly referencing her father :(

Queen is oddly focused on her, and seems to resemble Noelle’s actual mother who’s controlling and has high expectations of her. There’s an ENTIRE separate route that’s only possible with Noelle, and Noelle gets to go on a date with Susie. The entire sequence feels dream-like, Susie saves Noelle from some Darkners (who show up out of nowhere) and the Ferris Wheel... also kinda shows up out of nowhere? As if someone set it up? The Knight ships suselle?

We don’t know as much about Susie, but it’s possible the Card Castle Dark World is based on her too. Lancer is the main reason why she got to open up and learn that she could actually have friends like she’s always wanted (he’s the perfect friend for someone like her, someone who thinks her scariness is cool), the King repeats her whole speech about “quiet people” from the Light World, something only Kris heard. Card Castle is also structured quite strangely, we hear about how 4 kings ruled together, but there’s only one throne room and it’s only based on spades. When we fight King there’s a huge spade on the ground even though spade shouldn’t be any more important than the other suits. I suppose King might have done some redecorating before the heroes showed up, but I think because the Knight wanted King to be the sole ruler, that their thoughts influenced how the castle looks.

This is going to be rather speculative, but I think the supply closet world is for Kris. There’s obviously Ralsei, who resembles their older brother, but I think the papers on the ground are what make up his kingdom. The buildings look like paper cutouts, and I think that’s because the papers are drawings of his kingdom. I also think these are things Kris and Asriel drew when they were younger, probably making up some story about a lonely prince named Ralsei, and how a new person came to life that made him feel less alone: a human knight (basically Kris and Asriel are creating a story based around how Asriel felt before Kris became his sibling, and also a reference to their counterparts from Undertale). Kris’s side of their bedroom is also empty despite living there for years, so I think they got rid of their stuff recently (which would explain why Toriel seems concerned when she asks Alphys about them). Some of the books in their mother’s classroom belonged to them, so maybe they left some of their things in the closet too?

I think that’s the main point of these Dark Worlds, for these characters to have fun and grow as people. Susie gets her first ever friends, Noelle learns to stand up for herself, hang out with Susie and reconnects with Kris. Even Berdly is nicer now and starting to work on his insecurities.

Now, what does all that have to do with Ralsei lying about the authenticity of the Legend? Well first let’s talk about why I think it’s made up.

—Ralsei never elaborates about the Angel’s Heaven, and we get these entirely new villains, the Titans, in chapter 2, who he brings up at the last minute.

—Ralsei, at first, says that the three heroes are supposed to seal the fountains together. Except five minutes later he clarifies that only Kris can do it. We know this is true because we see Kris do it by themselves in the Weird Route. But why does he know this if the Legend contradicts this idea? We also never see him there at the sealing, there’s always a space meant there for him that hasn’t gotten filled yet. This contrasts with the title theme showing the trio together, and the picture during the Legend showing the three heroes sealing it together. I think he’s avoiding being there for some reason.

—Ralsei talks a lot about ‘balance’ between light and dark. The balance shifted when the Knight made the second dark fountain. However, this implies that Ralsei’s own dark fountain needs to stay open, but that makes no sense. There’s no way the supply closet Dark World has existed for more than a couple of days, otherwise other characters would come across it, particularly Alphys and Toriel. Alphys even says there should be chalk in there. Ralsei is either misinformed or lying about this.

—If the way to stop the world from ending is to seal the Fountains, and only Kris can seal them, doesn’t that mean only Kris is needed, and Ralsei and Susie are... unnecessary? This legend kinda sucks lol

Ralsei lying initially only to tell the truth five minutes later about who seals the fountain is weird, but I think I know why he did it. The framing in the Legend makes it less obvious that the role of the prince and the monster are not needed. Ralsei only clarified when Susie refused to play along and just wanted to go home. If Kris is her ticket way home, she has to stay with them, which would make it more likely for them to become friends. And that’s what Ralsei wants, for Kris to be happier and have friends outside of Asriel.

The interesting thing about Susie being the ‘monster’ to me is that she, out of everyone in Kris’s class, is the least equipped to figure out the Ralsei-Asriel connection. She doesn’t know Kris has a brother, she thinks his name is spelled ‘Ralsay’, ruining the anagram. I don’t know how much Susie entering the Dark World was made deliberate by either Ralsei or Kris, it’s not like either of them could predict that Susie would be sent out with Kris to get chalk, but it doesn’t feel very coincidental when taking that into account. I think Ralsei might have wanted Susie to be the ‘monster’ specifically because he knows her reputation as a bully in Kris’s school and wants her to be friendlier to Kris. Probably Kris was interested in befriending her too, or at least didn’t hate the idea.

Ralsei talks about Darkners having to serve Lightners but really he mainly means Kris (notice how he barely talks to Noelle and Berdly, despite them both being Lightners he’s supposed to serve). They’re the one that he constantly praises and encourages. And he doesn’t even mind if Kris fights people, unlike with Susie, who he gets upset with and even lectures her about it. Ralsei thinks Kris should be the leader, and gets upset when Susie takes away Kris’s uniqueness by learning how to ACT. I think he makes them do the puzzles and puts the decisions on them (Kris can do this puzzle, Kris who you do want to go with, etc) because he wants them to become more independent. Kris seems very listless and lost after Asriel left for college, they kinda need this encouragement (it’s also interesting to me how Kris clearly dislikes the fact that they’re human, but in the Dark World they’re just a Lightner like Susie, Noelle, and Berdly. They’re not as othered there, just more ways it comes across as an escapist fantasy for them).

Some flavor text in the library implies that Kris doesn’t feel ready to grow up, when you check out the board it reads ‘The teenzone: Where Teen’s can be Kid’s. A feeling of immense relief washes over you.’. There’s also how they’re the only teenager who still wears a striped shirt, even though that’s supposed to be a thing only children wear. And then there’s Toriel holding their hand, which Kris clearly doesn’t enjoy, but they still don’t protest. There’s just a lot of little things like this indicating Kris isn’t as independent as most teenagers are, or want to be at this age. I think part of this comes from depression and the other part comes from being used to having Asriel there to help and accommodate for them (like the way he’d carry them to school as opposed to making them walk)

And the way Ralsei treats Kris... this is kinda subjective, but it almost comes across as he sees them as a little kid, or at least someone who needs their hand held. He acts like an older brother, you could say? Lots of things he praises them for are so mundane, like they’re a child who needs their confidence raised. The way he says “good job!” after Kris pushed the block into the switch on that one puzzle makes me laugh every time. It’d be patronizing if he didn’t sound so sincere when he does it.

The reason the Legend exists is so that the Lightners can get invested in the adventure. If they all knew everything was technically fake and that the Darkners are just objects come to life, that would make it less fun for them.

In the beginning of chapter 2, Ralsei singles out Kris to talk to them alone. He whispers to them to get the objects from the unused classroom, preventing Susie from learning that the Darkners are objects. Like I say in the post I linked, Ralsei also acts like Kris should already understand what’s going on. And I think they do, because they’re the Knight.

I know some people don’t like this theory, but I think it has a lot going for it thematically. Read my post linked at the top of this post for my reasons as to why I believe in it.

If I’m right about the Knight creating these characters, then characters who know each other from different Dark Worlds must be created by the same person. And Spamton keeps mentioning this Mike, and brings up TVs while talking about him, and Jevil referenced Queen back in chapter 1...

Also, if the Knight is basically the whole reason the heroes are needed at all, why aren’t they mentioned in the prophecy?

I take two things away from this— I think Ralsei actually doesn’t mind what the Knight is doing, he wants them to create more fountains because that also means more adventures for his friends, and that if the Knight is Kris, he could be working with them on this, as their “lackey” as Berdly puts it.

(why is this word of all things highlighted lol)

A lot of people don’t like this theory because they think it’s bad or weird writing to reveal the Knight so soon, I disagree. There’s so much more to this mystery than just the identity reveal. We still need to get into:

—Why Kris is doing this (and considering they’re a silent protagonist, this could take a while)

—How they figured out how to do this

—Everyone’s reactions to them being the Knight, both their friends and the main bosses who unknowingly became an obstacle towards someone they’re very loyal toward

—If Ralsei is involved/encouraging them on this

—If Gaster is involved/encouraging them about this (the Knight had a communion with him as Spamton puts it)

It’s possible that Toby just has different priorities about the story and there’s something else important about the Knight that doesn’t have to do with their identity. Twists can be really obvious yet still executed well (like the twist about the Masked Man from Mother 3, a game Toby is a fan of). Kris being the Knight makes sense to me from a narrative perspective because one of the strangest things about Deltarune is Kris. There’s so much we need to learn about them and we could do that through finding out what led them to being the Knight.

I keep talking about the Knight being the main writer here, but I think Ralsei also has the script, and is even making up his own things (he’s confused when things are off-kilter in Snowgrave), like the Titans. Kris’s save file in chapter 2 was saved in Castle Town for some reason, but their first save file that we overwritten didn’t have a location, I believe they met Ralsei last night to figure out how the next adventure should go. I think their secret conversations also have to do with this plan. Kris & Ralsei are collaborating and making up stories just like Kris & Asriel did as kids (I find it very hard to believe Asriel never roleplayed as the God of Hyperdeath before, especially after Deltarune makes it canon that it was his OC by showing us that it’s the final boss of his game WIP. In the DR universe he also had Ralsei to RP as). Also note how the Legend is framed like two different people are talking. ‘it was a legend of HOPES’ / ‘It was a legend of DREAMS’, what if that’s supposed to symbolize Kris and Ralsei writing the prophecy together?

Small tangent but if they are talking about their plan during their secret conversations, this could explain why Kris refused to have a private conversation with Ralsei during the Snowgrave route. Kris probably thinks there’s no point in discussing the next Dark World after we completely ruined their ideas on how Cyber World should go by pressuring them to manipulate Noelle.

It’s possible something like the Roaring is a thing but will come under different circumstances. Like maybe sealing too many fountains is what causes it, or that the fact that any fountains exist at all will lead to the Roaring happening (note: I don’t think Ralsei’s intention is for the world to end, he probably only knows as much about Dark Worlds as Kris does). The reason why Ralsei interrupted Berdly was not because he didn’t want him to make a fountain, but because he knew it wouldn’t work. And if it didn’t work, it would just make it easier for everyone to figure out that Kris is the Knight, and Ralsei can’t let that happen. He doesn’t want people to know what the Dark World really is so people can have fun together.

I don’t think what Kris is doing is completely harmless, whether or not there’s actually a risk of an apocalypse. Kris’s soul gets used quite a bit in the Dark World, it connects the whole party together and shares damage between them. The soul flies over from Kris’s position to Susie when she’s fighting Lancer, and Kris uses the soul to seal fountains. They keep ripping their soul out harshly and throw it around like they want to hurt it. I think this is all putting a heavy strain on them and making them sick. I don’t think even walking around without a soul is good for their body.

We keep hearing in chapter one that Kris looks sick, and I think the strain put on their soul is the reason why. I’m thinking this could turn out really bad and make them bedridden in the hospital, especially with the pattern of hospital patients being different every day (It goes from ICE-E to Shyren in two days, and Berdly will need a room depending on your actions). I don’t think Ralsei is aware of any of this, otherwise he would tell Kris to stop for their own safety. I don’t think Kris completely understands the magic they’re messing with, which could lead to disastrous consequences for both themselves and Hometown.

Now I have a couple of predictions regarding the escapism theme. The first is that Kris, Susie, and Noelle will choose to forgo their real life responsibilities to live in the Dark World forever. I think Ralsei wants the Darkners recruited in preparation for something like this, because it’ll be less lonely with lots of friends around. Maybe it’ll be only one or two of them who decide on this, but all their lives are varying degrees of pretty terrible so I can see it happening with any of them. Ralsei will initially be pleased by them staying in his castle (especially Kris) but they all decide to leave eventually. While the Dark Worlds have been good for them, staying in one forever won’t be healthy. Ralsei will channel Flowey and force Kris to stay, leading to a boss fight. I’ve heard theories of him being a shadow crystal holder, so maybe his actions won’t be out of sheer entitlement but rather being influenced by Gaster like Jevil and Spamton were. Either way, Ralsei will eventually realize he’s in the wrong and let Kris go, cue crying hug. They may or may not seal the dark fountain after this, or just start wearing Ralsei’s headband again (yeah I think he’s the red horns), occasionally bringing him back to the Dark World so they can talk and hang out.

My other prediction is that choosing between living in the Dark World and living in the Light World will be framed as choosing between Ralsei and Asriel as well. Kris cares for Asriel deeply, and they clearly miss him, that’s why Ralsei exists in the first place, so Kris can have an Asriel around. But Ralsei, in many ways, is ‘easier’. He never gets tired of their antics, he’s always ready to encourage them, and Kris doesn’t have to worry about Ralsei leaving them, because his whole life’s purpose is dedicated to being their friend. But Asriel is growing up, ready to live his own life without Kris, and it’s been so long since they’ve been together in person. Not to mention how his break won’t last forever, he’s just going to back to college soon enough.

I think that’s making Kris very insecure, they’re probably super worried about drifting away from their brother, so they have Ralsei to fall back on. Ralsei is likely aware of this ‘purpose’ considering his line “I wonder what Ralsei-like even is...?”, which is significant enough that he says it no matter what Kris does. He’s uncertain about his own identity because he knows Kris wants him to be like Asriel. Whatever happens between Kris and Ralsei, I think it’s going to help Kris work through their unhealthy dependence on Asriel, and hopefully Ralsei will also realize how unhealthy his idolization of Kris is/the power dynamic between Lightners and Darkners is general.

Hmm, actually, if Ralsei does have a shadow crystal, maybe his battle will be optional like Spamton and Jevil. Like it only happens in you make certain decisions in a specific chapter (likely the final one), and his character arc goes in a different direction if you don’t take them, that could be cool. He’s one of the main characters so it’d also wouldn’t be that out of place for there to be different ‘routes’ for him.

I could be VERY off here (the Ralsei boss fight might be too similar to the Asriel fight from UT but I honestly wouldn’t mind lol), but the theme of unhealthy vs healthy escapism seems very obvious to me so I definitely think a plot point regarding the characters staying in the Dark Worlds forever will come up, or at least there be someone considering it, but it could be resolved in a different way!

Here’s another suggestion, the climax might be that Kris wants the Roaring to happening, except it’s not NEARLY as bad as Ralsei describes it. Darkners don’t turn to stone and the Titans don’t exist/are completely benevolent. The reason they haven’t caused it yet is because they want to wait until Asriel is home first, it’s why they’re making fountains only days before he’ll be back from college. Basically, their goal is to make him stay home forever. Yeah instead of Ralsei it’s KRIS pulling the Flowey now lol.

Jokes aside, they’re also doing this because, like I’ve discussed before, they’re scared of growing up and don’t want to acknowledge their real world problems. I think they also want Darkners to live in the “real world” and for them to stop worshipping Lightners by doing this. I think part of the reason why Spamton made them so uncomfortable is because they feel guilty over the despair he feels by being his creator, and this could apply to Darkners in general. I don’t think they really like the dynamic between Lightners and Darkners, they might think King has a point about how Darkners need to be more independent. The way they play hot/cold with Ralsei could be because they feel responsible for his unhealthy attachment to them, and might want to deter that by being casually rude sometimes to put him off, but they still want to be friends which why we have all the hug options as well.

After everyone tells them they’re acting totally crazy/it’s revealed there actually is a negative consequence to the Roaring they admit they shouldn’t have done this and try to make it right by sealing the fountain(s). Since this would be getting rid of a huge Dark World this would probably have a huge negative effect on their health, maybe even killing them (I don’t want Kris to die but I keep seeing death flags...)

And that’s it! Sorry for how ramble-y this one is. I just wanted to get my thoughts out about the Dark World adventures being quite artificial because this doesn’t seem to be that popular of an idea...? (I’ve seen so many debates about if Ralsei is the real prince and my answer to that is, yes he is but it doesn’t matter because the prophecy is just there for roleplay purposes anyway haha). Obviously there’s other stuff going on like what’s up with Gaster and Kris’s soul and it’ll be interesting to see how everything ties together while likely being crazier than anything I could come up with.

I realize both of these posts, especially when read together, are super long, so I appreciate anyone who took the time to read them (even if you just skimmed it), thank you!

#the seal barked again #deltarune spoilers //

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perhaps,,, werewire (dr ch2) + tango w/ soap cutting (red if possible, not picky tho) + glowsticks/neon glowy stuff? (for a tango fictive, i can send you a pic if needed :]) - canopy salad

Werewire + TangoTek (introject) with red soap cutting and glowing!

🧼|🔻|🧼 🔻|🧼|🔻 🧼|🔻|🧼

#weheartstims #stimboard #introject #werewire #tangotek #art is by the requester; I just don’t have a link #red #soap cutting #knife tw #hands #glow sticks #guitar #slime #lava lamp

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thebigshotman · 2 years

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*A hastily scribbled note is lying before you. Read it?

*YES *NO

*Hey everyone! I’ve been lurking around and checking out shenanigans every now and then, and it’s safe to say I miss you all terribly. But I can’t come back just yet. Like I feared, it’s been craziness at college right out the gate, and it’s been hard to find time to just sit down and to reply to things. I’m not gone for good, not by a long shot! But I’ll need just a little bit more time.

*However! I realized today is the one year anniversary of Chapter 2, and therefore the anniversary of Spamton coming into existence! So I felt compelled to write a little peek into what Spaul’s doing on this fine day. I wrote it over the course of several days, so apologies if it’s a little scattershot or weird. I hope you all enjoy it nonetheless!

*TL;DR I’ll be back in just a little while longer, but for now enjoy this little story! Bye for now!

*Inside is a crystal that changes between pink or yellow depending on how you’re turning it. You can see a birds eye view of Spaul in its reflection. Peer inside?

He wasn’t at his store or his dumpster today, not even at Cerise’s. Although he had stopped there for his usual ramen and cup of tea earlier today, to prepare himself for what he was going to do.

Instead, Spamton G. Spamton-nowadays more well known as “Spaul” since he had been given this second chance of existence-had discovered a portal back to Cyber City. His Cyber City. And so he had stepped through. Today was a…special day, you could say, for him.

The place was mostly abandoned, having been vacated by most of its intelligent residents in favor of going to Castle Town. The sole exceptions being misplaced Werewires, Virovirokuns, and Popups that continued to hunt for prey that didn’t exist. He had to dodge and sidestep them quite frequently, especially as he got further and further to his destination.

Queen’s Mansion.

He had no idea what had happened to his Swatch, Swatchlings, and Queen, but the place was empty and the door was unlocked. So he stepped inside, relishing the fact that he was finally back here after so, so long. Yet, surprisingly, happiness was not the only thing in his mind. Perhaps for the first time ever, fear was on Spaul’s mind as well.

It was probably because he was here to see…it. Or maybe it was a figment of his rapidly unspooling mind’s imagination. Who was to say for sure? He certainly couldn’t.

Down the stairs into the basement he went, and then even further down by way of that absolutely torturous tea cup ride. Walking along the rails that sprawled along its deepest layer, until he finally came across it.

Hunching across from him was the shriveled, disbelief, crazy, colorful husk he had once dared to call a “workout ready body”. Its metal wings were draped over itself, as if trying to protect itself from a threat that had long since consumed it. Indeed, a large, square shaped carving was present on its chest cavity; Kris’s handiwork from removing him from the robot.

Peering inside-but not too deeply, for fear of being sucked back in-wires were strung all around every crevice, holding all of the functions together. The ones that had held him in place spilled out from the hole, also from Kris’s sword work. And indeed, outside of the body, countless lime green wires also spooled out of the back of the machine.

He tried not to think about how it had felt when he had been cut loose from them. Halfway between consciousness and death, barely clinging to life until Kris and that purple girl had propped him up on this vines. Perhaps he would never be free after all.

Hurriedly, almost as if afraid of the strings, Spaul backed away to take in the entire piece in front of him and stuck his hands in his barely used pockets. Allowing the memories of that fight, of that fateful day, to freely flood his memories for the first time. His glasses turning completely black as this happened.

*K-Kris?? What did you do that?! He turned into those glasses to help us!

*…

*…C-C’mon, Kris. Ralsei, you too. This place is giving me the creeps; let’s leave before something else happens.

*Oh…okay! We can always come back and fix them up after we seal the Fountain! C’mon, Kris, let’s go!

He had tried so hard to believe what the Dark Prince had said, he really had.

But nobody came.

His glasses were still bent on one side from when Kris had thrown him, as well as one of the lenses being perpetually smudged. Even worse we’re more permanent effects that he did his best to hide: Cracks along the back of his head. What would Cerise or Eileen think if he saw that?

It was only after he felt the impact of his fist on it that Spaul came back to reality, realizing he had punched the NEO body. Static oozing out of his glasses which he quickly worked to fix by jostling them, returning them to their normal form. He backed away again, once again taking in the whole body again.

It seemed to be buzzing, calling for him to enter and seek limitless power once again. You want it. You need it. Don’t you see?

Spaul glitched spastically, shaking his head as the garbage noise in his mind whispered at him to betray every person that he had grown to love and appreciate since he had emerged in Castle Town. Coming here might not have been the smartest idea.

He would never turn to this power ever again! And for that, he felt quite proud of himself. He didn’t need anyone or anything else! He would protect his new friends all by himself!

But a little bit of power to do that with couldn’t hurt…

*…No. N0. I’VE B3EN THROUGH [[round trip to-]] T0 GO BACK TO TH4T [time to get in shape!]!! TOO MUCH [9-5]!!! YOU HERE THAT M1KE?!?!?! [[I’m sorry, but that’s incorrect.]]!!!

He “screamed” that to the Heavens, to the skies above the basement that he was in. The voice clip only sounded slightly upset, akin to a game show host, but his demeanor immediately afterwards, of preparing to leave and nervously smoothing back his hair, told the story better.

*…N1CE COMING BACK [[where it all began…]] BUT [[no stars, would not recommend!]]. TH1S THING C4N BURN IN [county landfill]!!!

He fixed it with one more long, hard stare. Flying again would be nice, but besides that…never again. OR SO HE THINKS.

Just before he turns to leave, though, he looks right at you. At the audience. His grin is menacing for a moment, before he sighs and lightens up a bit. After all, this body is the reason he has everything he has now. Perhaps he can’t be too mad at it, not when it’s been so throughly decommissioned. An “accepted” noise plays before he speaks, waving politely.

*4ND AS FOR [you lovely people!]…

*…HAPPY B1RTHDAY, [Heaven].

*The crystal goes dark, returning to simple pink and yellow hues once again.

#(happy anniversary chapter 2!! 🥳🥳)#(as stated I cannot be back properly yet but I hope you enjoy this in the meantime!)#(a little present for my favorite video game character…revisiting trauma. of course lol 😂)#(and some clues on what’s to come when I do come back 😁)#(see you all soon! hope you enjoyed)#ONE WEIRD TIP-in character #NOTHING MORE THAN A SIMPLE PUPPET-main verse

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