#fanon jiang cheng

[fandom-trash-goblin]

i love love love the idea of Yunmeng Jiang being some hotpot combination of refugees and orphans from all over the war wrecked areas of the sunshot campaign. The idea of angry, surely teenager Jiang Cheng softening ever so slightly to find all these people who have lost their home just like him, a place to live, where they can be safe.

(please, feel free to recommend fics)

#mdzs #jiang cheng #apparently #fanon jiang cheng #I don't know I've never read the book #jiang wanyin #jiang siblings #jiang cheng apologist

[fanon-jiangcheng]

Intro post.

This is The Real Jiang Cheng™. You can call me Jiang Cheng will not be offended and threatened you about breaking your legs.

I am sect leader of a happy and harmonious Yunmeng Jiang. Which is very prosperous and I care a lot about my citizens. I single handedly built the sect after the war. Everything else is just rumours don't believe it

I love my parents, my sister Yanli and my servant stepbrother Wei Wuxian and my nephew Jin Ling totally didn't slap him and threaten him.

I have a lot of fans who love me not because my character was totally fuked by cql and the actor was kinda hot but still has zero acting skills.

This is about me. Please don't feel free to reach out I am just saying this, don't you dare or else I will break your legs.

#mdzs #fanon jiang cheng

[mxtxfanatic]

Jc stans: Why are jc-antis so obsessed with us? We just stay in our lane 🥺

The main mdzs tag: “Jiang Cheng is the real protagonist (or at least the secondary lead)!” vibes in like 80% of the posts

The main Jiang Cheng tag: fanon, fanon, thirst art, thirst gif set of cql, “Jiang Cheng is the hottest most sexiest single mom in town who everyone wants to fuck and Wei Wuxian should be honored to have been killed by him 😤” posts

The “canon Jiang Cheng” tag created specifically to talk about his canon personality because jc stans didn’t want canon talk in the main tag: “we’re reclaiming the tag for jc!” posts, “why don’t people like jc when he’s so [insert fanon]?” posts, canon followed by jc stans complaining about the canon, more fanon

My fucking For You page despite having been mutually blocked by most large jc stan accounts and exclusively following blogs with canon depictions of him: “isn’t jc so funny??? Isn’t jc the bestest single mother jiujiu ever??? Isn’t jc the greatest brother ever to that ungrateful servant wwx??? Isn’t wwx so mean to jc??? Don’t you think jc is hot??? Who wouldn’t want to fuck jc??? Wouldn’t you???” (and a lonely wangxian art post)

Jc stans: It’s such a mystery why there’s so many people who just don’t like jc or us…

#mdzs #human gripes at fandom #because WHY am i seeing jc stan content on MY page? #NOBODY i follow likes his fanon but yet that’s 99% all i see #and i know it’s because it’s 90% of the fandom #but it’s the rest of us that are the problem somehow #the more something is forced down my throat #the more imma start making this whole damn place uncomfortable #if I can’t get rest y’all can’t either #jiang cheng #canon jiang cheng

[mdzs-fanon-exposed]

MDZS Fanon VS Canon: 2/?

Wen Ning fits Jiang Cheng's list of requirements for a wife

Rating: FANON – NEUTRAL

A lot of ships involving Jiang Cheng will use a list detailing the characteristics of his ideal woman as evidence for one pairing for another, and the character brought to me to evaluate as a suitable match was Wen Ning. Unfortunately, I have to rate this as fanon because Jiang Cheng's wife requirements... aren't canon to the novels.

In terms of the official adaptations, Jiang Cheng's requirements for his perfect wife seem to be Untamed-only canon, as part of the Jiang Cheng/Wen Qing subplot the drama invented. However, the MDZS Fandom Wiki (which, side note, is a horrible source for anything) credits the following list of requirements to a since-deleted Tumblr post:

Naturally beautiful, graceful and obedient, hard-working and thrifty, coming from a respected family, cultivation level not too high, personality not too strong, not too talkative, voice not too loud and must treat Jin Ling nicely. (source)

Using the Wayback Machine, I managed to find the original Tumblr post in question (seen here). According to the user who posted it, this is a translated excerpt from a Weibo post written by MXTX herself, listing 10 supplemental facts about the books – supposedly posted a year before The Untamed was first announced.

I do not have Weibo and cannot verify this claim, but regardless, I do not consider "word of God" to be canon for the purposes of this blog. Whatever MXTX's intentions were when writing this list, Jiang Cheng's requirements are not mentioned anywhere in the actual text, and so I cannot rate this suggestion as anything but fanon. You, the reader, are free to choose whether you think MXTX's supplemental material is canon-accurate.

As for Wen Ning himself: Canonically, Jiang Cheng "could never tolerate" him (Seven Seas Ch. 19, p. 251), and so unfortunately this ship cannot officially sail. Even if Wen Ning does fit every entry on this list, Jiang Cheng would not consider him a prospective match. I do not consider the list canon, and so any attempts to figure out if Wen Ning fits the letter of the list (if not the spirit) can not be anything but subjective.

But, well, this post is about the list itself, not Jiang Cheng's feelings about it. So while I'm here, I might as well have some fun with it.... Feel free to use the notes to debate whether or not you think Wen Ning is secretly right for Jiang Cheng's dubiously-canon standards.

Naturally beautiful: Wen Ning is ADORABLE and I LOVE HIM. You can't look at him and NOT call him cute; even Wei Wuxian thinks his "side profile [is] delicate and refined" (Seven Seas Ch. 12, p. 141). Would Jiang Cheng think this? Um,

Graceful and obedient: He's pretty meek and he's described as a yes-man (Seven Seas Ch. 16, p. 22), and he does what Wei Wuxian says a lot (under magical flute coercion or otherwise), but he can be pretty stubborn when he wants to be. I wouldn't call him falling off a roof "graceful," but I suppose that was after he was zombified.

Hard-working and thrifty: Yes – I can't imagine he got all those Wen subordinates by being completely lazy. And if anything he's kind of the pack horse for the Burial Mounds crew lol.

Coming from a respected family: Technically? Yes. The Wens have historically been a powerful and influential family, and Wen Ning is the younger brother of someone of "a rank on par with Wen Chao" (Seven Seas Ch. 12, p. 148). Functionally? Uhhhh

Cultivation level not too high: This one is debatable, but probably a yes. We don't receive much information about Wen Ning's cultivation level, since his fighting prowess isn't really plot-relevant until he dies, but he is described as "unremarkable" in comparison to Wen Qing. Just like, in general, I guess. (Seven Seas Ch. 12, p. 149)

Personality not too strong: See #2. I would say yes with some caveats. Especially (and ironically) when Jiang Cheng is involved.

Not too talkative/voice not too loud: Also a match! Wen Ning stutters a lot and doesn't really raise his voice unless he's angry, so he's pretty quiet. Remember that time he and wangxian were on that boat and Wei Wuxian straight up didn't notice him for like five minutes? Poor guy. Can you believe this happened to him twice.

Must treat Jin Ling nicely: Do we count murdering his dad? Because if we don't, then Wen Ning treats Jin Ling very nicely. He even saves his life multiple times!

In conclusion: ?????????

#fanon vs canon #mdzs #jiang cheng #wen ning #rating: neutral #i am not going to provide sources for every part of my breakdown of the list bc it is so much just me fucking around with it #but yall are welcome to take this and run with it. tell me all the reasons u think ur fav character is actually jc's perfect match #*wen ning voice* if i had a nickel for every time i was on a boat with lwj and wwx (give or take assorted juniors) #and i wasn't noticed for a weirdly long amount of time #i'd have two nickels. which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

[en-d-d]

So, this is my first post, so hello everyone! I don't really know how to properly navigate this platform just yet, but I'm sure I will figure it out, so please bear with me.

Having said that, unfortunately, I've come here today to rant a little on social media about things that make me borderline insane just from listening to. Most specifically, from MTXT's works. (Because if I ever see another wrong characterization for those fictional people I've became very attached to, I'm actually going to go mad.)

(This is not meant to be an attack of any sorts, I'm just a teenager on social media pulling my nerves into writing because who knows, maybe I can finally be at peace then.)

Let's start then!

Xie Lian is not owo small cutie or sum, and if I hear that one time... my man may be short, but he could fight off almost anyone, just thanos clapping people out of existence. He's also very insane and very horny about the Calamity attached to his hip. My guy is pretty smart and also just kinda gives patient auntie vibes (you know, that auntie that can see beyond everyone's bull but choses not to).

And if I already started with TGCF, may as well continue with it. Hua Cheng is a switch and you can't convince me otherwise. (If his Dianxia wanted to top, he would be as elated as he would be if Dianxia wanted to bottom. My man doesn't care.)

Luo Binge being referred as a white lotus and people not knowing what it means ("In Chinese internet novels, the term "white lotus" refers to a character who appears innocent, naive, and pure on the surface but uses this reputation to backstab, blame, or sling mud on others.") (I believe maybe people confuse this with the other meanings of the white lotus, like, actually naive or pure in character, but those are obliviously not what they mean in the chinese novels)

Shen Yuan is Kim Dokja, but chinese (or maybe KD is SY but korean)

Lan Wangji did not like Wei Wuxian despite him being 'evil', he loved him exactly because he isn't evil. I can't stress this enough. If wwx was a actually bad person, lwj would not hesitate to cut his head off and be done with the matter. Whenever I see someone saying something about him liking wwx even if he's evil, I'm slowly loosing my mind, bcz no, lwj is not such a shallow person, to be attracted to someone based purely on looks (and we do know this bcz he loves wwx in mxy's body just as much as he loved him in his original body.)

Now, we're moving into a territory I like exploring. I just want to start this off saying that I don't like Jiang Wanyin. I just don't care very much about him and I find him annoying as a person. With that being said, I'm a little miffed with fellow jc dislikers bcz they sometimes invent some things up about him or such shenanigans. Like. Man, you do not need to invent things to hate abt him, there are already plenty of them. I'm pretty unbiased when it comes to actual judgements about others. I will protect someone if the points made about them is incorrect as much as I will point out every thing they actually did bad.

And the next point is still abt jc (wow, what a surprise) just bcz, honest to god, a lot of his fans are straight up annoying. I've said it. A lot of y'all are hella annoying. (Not to say that there exist a lor of annoying fans for other characters, it's just that jc has a very high number of them) Some of the ones I don't find bad are those that like him just becouse of how bad of a person he is. I can respect that. What I can't respect is another owo he's innocent and traumatized and a tsundere and everything is wwx's fault owo jc fan. Fam, did we read the same book, or has media really rotten our colective brain that much??

(I believe I have more comments on this jc topic, but my brain is starting to hurt.)

And the last one is Wei Wuxian, probably the most controversial character in all of MTXT's novels. First of all, I have to be clear about this, but in all of this post, I'm purely referring to the characters from the books, not the other adaptations. This is important, bcz the adaptations further skewed wwx's image in the fandom.

I have saved him for least because of just how much things tick me off in this fandom when discussing wwx in special.

Disclaimer that I sincerely believe that you should enjoy and do art and fanfiction of characters however you want. If you want wwx to be, idk, a demon that terrorizes people and breaks lwj's heart and then jc comes and saves the situation from the evil patriarch and then french kisses Lan Xichen, then go ahead, idc (Unless you say he's owo, you have no excuse that would allow you to do that unless you're a child, and if you are, then you shouldn't even be here). But I draw the line when people lie about canon characterizations.

And there is just so much misconceptions on wwx's character that I would need an essay just to compose a list of them. They range from huge details that somehow miss people like how their neurons miss firing, to small details, like his handwriting (I believe the novel said it was cursive, not messy, like how almost all the fandom has apparently mutually agreed on. Do corect me if I'm wrong on this, some things are lost from translation to translation)

I will be discussing just some of them here. Maybe I will do another post where I go in more detail, we will see.

ADHD Wei Wuxian. The people that believe wwx has ADHD should probably reread the novel, bcz that characterization comes mostly from CQL. In the novel, wwx is a very chill guy that can stay in one place perfectly fine. I will not go into more details, just read the novel.

Wei Wuxian is the reason for the Jiang's collapse. Bull statement, everytime I see it, well, I go a little more insane. If you know a little politics, you would realize the Jiangs were next on the list for sure. Why, you would ask. The Lans already burnt themselves to the ground. The Nies have a fortress for a sect. The Jins are almost-not-exactly allies with the Wens. Now, guess who is the most unfavorably positioned gentry sect (lakes are not a good strategic spot), with lax protection (how did the Wens just march in like that like what) and a little too carele leader (Jiang Fenmiang really thought the Wens will give them back the swords after that whole disaster that was the indoctrination? Really??). Oh! I think I know who it is! And maybe you guessed it too. Glad we're on the same page.

Now, wwx being the reason why jc lost his core. Very many people already came to their own conclusion on why jc gave himself up. Brotherly affection, suicidal thoughts or just straight up idiocy. Whatever you believe, it's fine with me (but I do have a brother and I can assure you, wwx and jc never really seemed like brothers to me. They are a little too far to the left to be considered brothers, but this is my opinion, take it however you will). So, was it wwx's fault?

We're finally getting into the juicy stuff. The blame game. I hate it with my being, still, as long as I'm in fandoms, I must persist. My answer is yes & no. Did wwx deliberately made it so jc would be captured? Of course not. Did it still happened? Unfortunately, yes. To go deeper, we will look a little at fate. There are some things that are outside of our control. As much as we prepare, some things will still blow us over. So the definite answer is no. Jc made the decision to be seen by the Wens. It might sound callous , but the decisions you make are yours, even if you protect someone's life or not. Wwx did not ask to be protected. In conclusions, it's not his fault.

And that is a very good statement to make, seeing as we got to the core transfer. People often criticize wwx for giving non-consensualy his core to jc. I always thought it as a weird thing to hate him about, but whatever, I still shall address it. I will start with an exemple. If you loved someone very much, and they would die if they don't get, idk, a new arm (maybe think of something less inconspicuous, but you understand the ideea) they would die. You are the single person that can do it. But you're sure that if someone told your loved one that you would give it, they would refuze it. Are you still going to give your arm? Will you let your loved one die? Knowing that you can help?

And for those that say jc was not on the brink of death. He was suicidal. He would not have resisted a week with the shame of inferiority plus all the trauma that the Lotus Pier massacre was, combined. 'Regaining' his core might have actually made him feel better, like he beat the odds, like he has another chance. That's also why wwx never told him he gave him his core. Bcz he knew jc would not take it easy, finding out that all his accomplishments were thanks to wwx's sacrifice. Because jc has a big ego that's clearly evident through the story.

Anyways, let's continue.

Ghostly Cultivation. It's more popularity used the Demonic Cultivation term, but they are not the same think for Christ's sake. Modao Zushi does mean The Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, however the title is for click bait. In the actual novel, I believe wwx talks abt ghostly cultivation, not demonic. It was probably lost in translations.

I don't think I need to explain how wwx needed guidao to escape the Burial Mounds, so at least half of my job is already done. Now I go into dangerous territory however, bcz guidao is not expended upon. Still, I would rather listen to wwx when it's about, you know, the path he himself created?

To explain my stance, we would need to go deeper into the novel's points. A novel can have multiple themes, ranging from obvious ones, like love, family, to obscure ones, like, the importance of standing up for oneself (not the best exemple, but I believe y'all understand what I mean).

I'm someone that loves thinking abt MDZS. It's my dearest. So, I tend to analyze it pretty often. And the themes I usually get are things like 'the danger of hearsay and mob mentality', 'the importance of standing true to your ideals', 'the inherit unpredictability of life' and so on, and so on.

Anyways, what does that have to do with guidao? Well, everything, I believe. The MDZS world has a mentality resembling that of the curent China. Or well, the China of when MXTX wrote the novel. If you know some history, I believe you can connect the similarities. What does that mean then?

Wwx is someone that does not fallow the path set by the ancestors. He creates his own. When the cultivators see that, they are revolted. Becouse everything that strays from the 'right' path must surely be evil. And so, after Wen Ruohan, the Jins paint him as the new anarchist, and the rest is history.

Now, I would actually love to continue, but I've been typing nonstop for hours now, I need to stop. I will continue my points in another post, bcz I still have a lot of them.

Thanks for reading, and have a wonderful day 💐

#mxtx #mdzs #tgcf #svsss #wei wuxian #lan wangji #jiang cheng #xie lian #hua cheng #shen qingqiu #shen yuan #luo binghe #can you tell that I love mdzs #my head is about to explode from a headache #and I just typed for hours on end #the power of being done with fanon gave me strength

[jiangwanyinscatmom]

The SMBH of Fanon and The Spaghetti fixation of Jiang Cheng

A supermassive black hole (SMBH or sometimes SBH). Black holes are a class of astronomical objects that have undergone gravitational collapse, leaving behind spheroidal regions of space from which nothing can escape, not even light. Every large galaxy has a supermassive black hole at its center. In astrophysics, spaghettification (sometimes referred to as the noodle effect) is the vertical stretching and horizontal compression of objects into long thin shapes (rather like spaghetti) in a very strong, non-homogeneous gravitational field. It is caused by extreme tidal forces. In the most extreme cases, near a black hole, the stretching and compression are so powerful that no object can resist it.

What do these terms mean in context of Jiang Cheng? One is at the focal point of part of the novel Jiang Cheng is significantly tied to the thematics and consequences surrounding our main character Wei Wuxian. As our protagonist, Jiang Cheng being Wei Wuxian's emotional antagonist is central to the creation of the novel and it's plot progression for its continued arcs for him. He is important for what conclusions and continued strength Wei Wuxian finds for his convictions and actions.Jiang Cheng is a fellow needed center of our Story universe.

There are irrefutable "laws" of this story universe made by its creator (Mo Xiang Tong Xiu). He had been a childhood friend of Wei Wuxian, he had blamed Wei Wuxian for his tragedies, he had wanted him to be his support, he had wanted him under his loyalties, he tried to protect Wei Wuxian, he immediately regretted this protection when faced with consequences. His jealousy and inferiority towards someone that was supposed to be beneath him that continued to overshadow him in ability and fame grew. This hate overtook any care he had until he was able to see nothing but flaw and wrong and finally used that to say he must be killed and deserved death. This hate was excusable until he was faced with his own part in their unraveling relationship and stark morality that was never the same.

Fandom, likes to twist this center until it is stretched out into unbelievable extremes to say that all that was done by Jiang Cheng was either appropriate by human natural response, or it was one of our natural centers, Wei Wuxian, is actually wrong and needs to be morphed to fit the now widened hole that is distorting the created universe.

This effect now begins to leak out of the intended universe to stretch out into what it means for the fact that the audience is intended to perceive by its creator. The natural facts of the creator are now wrong, they are not intended, it is a lie and now I can say intended natural morality is perceived differently because I see Jiang Cheng as personally correct, or, simply because I feel bad he must and needs a happier ending because his universe's natural conclusion for him is incorrect. I can become the blackhole that stretches his natural intentions to be something that is unfamiliar to the work, I can cover it in falsehoods that seem natural in language as I speak and use human empathy. Reasoning is not needed when I use emotion to distort a reaction I want to invoke that was never intended by creator intent. I feel it, so it must be, if others do not, I will make them even if I need to change the words and actions within his natural universe and creator and even him to cater to this effect.

Jiang Cheng will be changed until he and its world make me feel comfortable to inspire a stretched perception that has voided its original state of being. Fact is not fact any longer when I try to insert emotional fallacy into indisputable story trajectory and author intent is dead.

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #canon jiang cheng #fandom vs canon #the black hole effect that is fanon jiang cheng #i am him so I must be kind if he is not meant to be kind i will make him #self perception and author intent is cruel and you need to find that line

[rosejen8675]

JC stans can get real tunnel vision sometimes I swear.

Saw a post on another platform that was all: “JC was a dutiful leader to the Jiang sect and duty is super important to Chinese culture so JC never did anything wrong!”

And I was like, yeah, duty is important, but other things are important to that setting too. Like repaying your debts, which JC refused to do for WN and WQ for saving his life and returning his parents ashes. And we went back and forth a bit and each time their response boiled down to “but he had a responsibility to his people!”.

And it’s like…I’m not saying he didn’t? I’m just trying to acknowledge he’s got more nuance going on than ‘never did anything wrong’. We can argue about whether or not it was the right choice to prioritize his sect above all else, but we can’t really argue that doing so causes him to leave some morals by the way side (both culturally and personally).

Guess I just don’t understand simping so hard that you can’t even acknowledge how a character is actually written.

#sorry for the rant #mdzs #canon jiang cheng #canon vs fanon #jiang cheng

[reileinaxiu]

MDZS Fanon Peeve: WWX and JWY Reconciliation (🤢🤮)

Warnings: Opinionated and probably biased JC bashing. Some cursing. Read at your discretion.

As much as I despise JWY he was a perfectly written character. As perfect as you can write an unhinged insecure megalomaniac underneath the facade of a political leader with their flaws(a lot of flaws).

But lets talk about the ending where people think JWY has changed for the better. Enough change that despite the unlikelihood there is a possibility for reconciliation which is to say none on my part. Which also infuriates me when browsing for fics.

One encounter can definitely change someone's perspective but that doesn't change every aspect of their world view. Especially someone late in their life and as set in their ways is as JWY.

Sure the Golden Core reveal and encounter with JGY might have JWY rethinking of his treatment of WWX during his first life.

But what about his anger about the burning of Lotus Pier, his sister's death, his distaste for LWJ and WWX's relationship? Don't tell me his entire world view just flipped just because he recognized WWX leaving the sect was as his fault? Don't tell me he learned to be a better uncle to JRL because he realized he was a terrible guardian and role model? No one shall dare tell me that JWY stopped being homophobic after the book. Would he actually be a better person just because he learned that the origin of the core he received was falsified?

That encounter had no repentance to the 13 years of hunting "demonic cultivators".

That scene had no realizations about how badly he messed up JRL. In fact he even uses JRL as an excuse to further attack WWX stating the JRL was parentless because of him. JWY literally pushes and shouts at JRL everytime he tries to help.

If this is being a good uncle, then JGY was a f***ing saint to JRL.

What we got out of it was him still feeling that WWX was the cause of the Massacre and the catalyst for his sister's death and how he betrayed him for the Wens. And how shitty he treated his own nephew who was just worried about his health. Oh and his inferiority complex the size of the Pacific.

He spits all that gasoline to set fire to already charred wood.

WWX: Take it as my repayment to the Jiang Family

JWY: Repayment, to my father, my mother, my sister?

WWX: Forget it it's all in the past, let's not mention it again.

He still had the f***ing gall to ask more from WWX as if those people were still alive and that his Golden Core and sufferings weren't enough. As if WWX needs to do more to recompense for the abysmal treatment he received in Lotus Pier. At least WWX has enough emotional maturity for the entirety of the story.

Boohoo. Spare me the tears. That was probably the most unsympathetic and pathetic waterworks I have seen to date.

All he learned was to leave WWX alone. Because nothing good comes out of trying to take what was never owed. a debt that was already paid.

So yeah. There's no changing angry toxic grapes so late in life. We get sh**** wine from fermenting wrongly from the start.

Just because they've agreed to forget doesn't mean they will ever forgive. What JWY became and what his part in the demise of the Wen Remnants is unforgivable to WWX. And to JWY, WWX's 'betrayal'(I laugh at JC stans in my head) is unforgivable to him.

Don't ever mention any possibilities of a WWX and JWY reconciliation to me. That tag should burn.

#mdzs #mdzs meta #modaozushi #mdzs manhua #mdzs fanon pet peeves #wei wuxian #jin ling #jin rulan #guanyin temple arc #canon jiang cheng #anti jiang cheng #anti jc

[friedwizardwhispers]

The duality of sort of liking the reconciliation fics (because it's practically half of the fics in ao3) and the anger I feel when Wei Wuxian is the one apologizing (and the only one doing so) when Jiang Cheng is the one who led the siege against what he knew to be innocent old people and children, said Wei Wuxian was an enemy of the clans, kept blaming Wei Wuxian for things that weren't his fault and tortured people for the only crime of having the same cultivation as him for 13 years

#i sort of like reading them because i'm a sucker for brothers and that's what I usually get #but this is also completely fanon and not the actual canon character and it makes me angry #sometimes #but also some of them are really well-written even id I don't agree with the characterisation #also i don't believe a reconciliation is possible in novel canon btw #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #anti jiang cheng #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #i usually put the reconciliation fics as drama canon because Jiang Cheng is definitely softened there #the untamed #cql #also if anyone has a fic where we get wwx angry at Jc for this i would be happy #or a fic where we get all of this acknowledged and see if we can actually have a redemption for JC with all of this ? that would also be #interesting to read about

[jiangchengneedstherapy]

I don't get the people telling others that they're not allowed to like or dislike a character for whatever reason. These are fictional characters, liking Wen Ruohan because he's pretty or disliking Jiang Cheng because he's rude, people can like and dislike them for whatever reason and it doesn't have anything to do with them irl. Fanons and headcanons are cool too, even if they're ooc or soften/harshen characters, at the end of the day yea they're not canon? They're fictional characters, its not harming anyone, you have no reason to attack someone personally over them, no one needs to have justification to write something as if its a moral offence they're committing and not writing fanfics. And at the same time, while people are allowed to like whatever character they like for whatever reason, no one also has the right to tell other fans they're not allowed to dislike a character for whatever reasons, yes, a character can be born into a homophobic and sexist society, grow up to be a homophobe and sexist learning it, and fans still have the right to dislike them for it (and its mostly queer fans who're told they shouldn't dislike because of character's complex-past, no, you have no right to tell them whether they are allowed to feel a certain way about a character). These are fictional characters we're debating over with real people, be respectful to each other. There's no one 'bad side' or 'good side'. Stans, antis, neutral tag users, a lot of people from each of them have been rude to others over simple disagreements. If you don't agree with the person's points or think they're misinformed on cultural aspects or whatever the reason, be polite, its might be hard when you think they're being bigoted or whatever, call it out but there's no reason for you to send death threats over it. And speaking in context of this canon tag being flooded with fanons and headcanons intentionally mistagged as a way of 'reclaiming it', yes you can point out its not canon actually with supporting text or ask the person for supporting text whatever, talk about the novel, not the person. Same to reclaimers, don't attack people if you disagree with them, ask for source if you want.

#and i understand with the reclaiming nonsense and people intentionally mistagging stuff as canon its frustrating #but rather than assuming every one of them is part of it #assume some genuinely do think that's canon #for that point out any contradictory text you have from the novel which opposes it thats not canon etc sure #but dont attack the person #likewise to other people too who say you're not allowed to dislike a character #mdzs #canon jiang cheng #fanons #headcanons

[halenhusky309]

I saw your post about a certain JC stan and can't help but burst out laughing looking at the username!!

For real, JC tiny waist???????

Canonically it is wwx who has such a slender waist, so now it has become JC's too??

By now it no longer surprise me how many WWX's does JC beloved fans want to UP and steal.

WWX has the Twin jade, so JC must drag the other Jade too despite zero chemistry in the canon.

WWX has NHS as someone who trusted his character so well to resurrect him and bet his plan onto his shoulders, so JC must be besties with NHS despite no contact aside from the 3 months with WWX in CR.

WWX has the Wen siblings who are willing to help him and sacrifice for him, so Jc has to be paired with either of the siblings despite the toxicity he exhibited toward the sibling in the canon.

What, WWX is both a parent and brother-like figure to Lan Sizhui? So Jc has to be a "single mother figure to Jin Ling" despite there is the real mother Jiang Yanli whom Jin Ling takes after in some aspects.

I wonder what else will they "copy and paste" from WWX.

As character Jc was obsessed with upping wwx to the point that the guy had a breakdown once realizing he could never UP the other person, and as fans they really did follow the example faithfully huh

Hey anon, I hope you found their username from my reblog and not my post (I also removed my reblog because I decided to block them and put that turd away from my page). Even though I have huge issue with that stan galvanizing my name on their post, it doesn't mean I want to expose their name on my post.

But going back to that "tiny waist" JC. At this point, JC stans have not only turned him into a slut-ified doll that couples with other male characters, but also made him slowly feeling more like WWX with more whining and tsundere streak. I mean there's no better way to insult JC character than making him slowly become more like WWX.

#anon asks #mdzs #canon jiang cheng #wei wuxian #Nothing more self-owned than JC woobifications #And I dislike those fanon JC takes so much #Way to make him even less interesting just because stans project their main character syndrome into JC

[biennatodd]

now i KNOW jc antis arent acting like theyre the victims when they run around dog piling on people’s posts trying to harass them into silence, claiming that people are “abuse apologists” with no idea of that person’s history, making blanket statements that people who like jc don’t do victim advocacy without knowing whether or not that person is a victim themselves (and feeling very entitled to knowing people’s trauma) and on the whole being awful to other people. 

#canon Jiang cheng #BE FUCKING FR #with all the woe is me shit nobody wants to hear that #yall have the nerve to say Dont assume your interpretation is 100% correct and turn around like canon is canon fanon is fanon like bitch #how bout you practice what you preach #whole group of fuckin hypocrites lmao #unless ur name is Mo Xiang Tong Xiu how bout u shut the fuck up about what is and isnt canon #you dont have to like jiang cheng but fuck off with the petty bullshit of dictating your personal interpretation as Canon

[fanon-jiangcheng]

It has come to my attention that any people think that I have a knife mouth but a heart of rotten tofu which is rotten to core.

I would like to thank you all for having my back and believing in me. Y'all need therapy and reading comprehension. I am glad that you all didn't fall for any lies of rightful fans of Jiang Cheng antis.

Yours sincerely,

Fanon Jiang Cheng

Sect leader

Lotus Pier.

#mo dao zu shi #fanon jiang cheng #mdzs

[whatwhywhowherewhen]

I dislike the jc stan interpretation of Jiang Cheng because they often argue he is a Responsible Young Man and that's just not the vibe in this media

On the other hand jc haters push the most destructive and insane interpretation possible, which is very much the MDZS vibe

#I love him so so so much #and wish we could read MXTX's notes on him #do you hate a hateful character for hating so much that you hatefully imagine many many ways for him to die #or do you subtlety imply the mc's death was karma for helping the tortured civilians and really just part of his brother's healing journey #this is true fanon jiang cheng #jiang wanyin #jiang cheng #mxtx #mdzs

[mdzs-fanon-exposed]

MDZS Fanon VS Canon: 2.5/?

Jiang Cheng has a list of requirements for his ideal wife

Rating: FANON – SUPPORTED

Jiang Cheng's "wife requirements" are commonly seen in Jiang Cheng-centric romance plots in fanfiction, and are taken as canon, but surprisingly, they do not actually appear in the books themselves.

Most of this post was originally part of another (seen here), but the topic of that post was not focused on the list itself, so I'm posting this individually as well.

In terms of the official adaptations, Jiang Cheng's requirements for his perfect wife seem to be Untamed-only canon, as part of the Jiang Cheng/Wen Qing subplot the drama invented. However, the MDZS Fandom Wiki (which, as a fan wiki, is not a credible source) credits the following list of requirements to a since-deleted Tumblr post:

Naturally beautiful, graceful and obedient, hard-working and thrifty, coming from a respected family, cultivation level not too high, personality not too strong, not too talkative, voice not too loud and must treat Jin Ling nicely. (source)

Using the Wayback Machine, I managed to find the original Tumblr post in question (seen here). According to the user who posted it, this is a translated excerpt from a Weibo post written by MXTX herself, listing 10 supplemental facts about the books – supposedly posted a year before The Untamed was first announced.

I do not have Weibo and cannot verify this claim, but regardless, I do not consider "word of God" to be canon for the purposes of this blog. Whatever MXTX's intentions were when writing this list, Jiang Cheng's requirements are not mentioned anywhere in the actual text, and so I cannot rate this suggestion as anything but fanon. However, because MXTX herself (supposedly) said this, I chose to rate it as supported fanon. You, the reader, are free to choose whether you believe MXTX's supplemental material is canon-accurate.

#fanon vs canon #jiang cheng #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #this is hard to define bc its canon for all intents and purposes EXCEPT for specifically the context of this blog #so. pseudo-canon. mostly canon. canon on weekends and every other tuesday

[lamalamam]

tsundere trio this, third wheel characters that, no. the one true character archetype Liu Qingge, Jiang Cheng and Mu Qing belong to is the aroace spectrum

#mxtx #lamaup books #liu 'balks at any mention of romance' qingge #jiang 'too busy being a sect leader' cheng #mu 'cultivation requires abstinence' qing #i love their fanon ships dont get me wrong but lets be real here