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#i saw people theorizing before but i am convinced now
v0idwraith · 29 days
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so there’s definitely Something going on with this season of game changer as well
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nonnieapple · 7 months
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⛈☂ Mall Emo, Mall Time, Mall Crime!☂⛈
 • (human!Marshall Lee x reader)  • r a t i n g: t e e n & u p • 2 1 0 3  w o r d s  • p o s t e d 04.10.2023     🌧 navigation  • s u m m a r y: what do you do when the cashier at a store is a dick? cheese it!
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You couldn't wait to see Marshall again. Even though you had seen him a few days ago, you couldn't help but brim with happiness at the thought of seeing him again. You felt electrified, no matter how dumb that sounded, it was exactly how you felt. You smudged on dark eyeliner, pulled on your skinniest jeans, decked out your wrists with enough bracelets to cut off circulation, and wrapped one too many belts around your hips.
Two to be exact.
When you saw Marshall you practically strangled his waist with your grip. He sighed and hugged back.
"Are you trying to kill me or are you just happy to see me?" He said, strained. You pulled back enough to see his face. His beautiful, otherworldly face, his piercings, and his relaxed, dark eyes, which had a red undertone.
"I am never letting you go," You mumbled as you embraced him one more time before pulling away.
"Way to break a promise." He laughed, raising his brows and walking by your side to the entrance of the AAA Mall, one of the only malls around.
"I meant that in a more… metaphorical sense." You shrugged with a smile. Even the annoying mall, with all its lights and people and sounds, couldn't make you upset around Marshall. You were low-key obsessed with that man. In a mostly healthy way.
You walked through the mall, having been there quite a few times before. Why meet in a mall? There wasn't… a particular reason. It was one of the only notable places around. Sometimes you got food there that was edible. The vibes were okay, and Marshall liked staring at the Gridsound displays from time to time. Now that you thought of it, that was the biggest reason.
The AAA Mall wasn't crowded most days either, and you two, both unemployed artists, went there on the dead days- Monday through Friday. When the stores were a relative ghost town. That suited your sensory and human sensitivities. Nothing was worse than people staring at you. Besides the dry sound of dry skin on extremely dry paper, or nail filing. It felt like the sound itself filed down on your teeth. You never quite figured out why people stared. Was it your fashion? Were people that bored? Theorizing was useless. All it did was make you more anxious.
You looked up at Marshall. When you just started hanging out, he asked why you were looking at him like that, but eventually, he accepted that at times you stared like a cat at the nearest object. He was understanding, and whenever you needed some help, he was there. He was a good guy. A little bit of trouble, but you were too, and that was fun.
"It's cold in here. I can feel my blood turning into ice cubes…" You shivered, speeding up your pace as you looked around at blank mannequins and generic posters of conventional-looking white people. The embodiment of salt as seasoning.
"Hm?" Marshall blinked, glancing at you. "I think it's fine." He slipped his hand into yours, and you gasped.
"I'm convinced you're cold-blooded," You murmured, his hand cool and dry, his black nail polish chipped under your fingers.
"Would you still love me if I was a worm?" His calm voice was not suited for the absurdity of that phrase.
"Dude… why the hell would you ask me that?" He feigned immense devastation at your sound question.
"So, you wouldn't?" He stopped, giving you the saddest look.
"You should've been a darn actor…. of course I would. Now let's move, my something is about to fall off." You pulled him behind yourself gently. You passed by a breakfast diner called Kingdom. Not even. Their pancakes were super soggy.
Every store was a carbon copy of the next and the last, clothes so blank they were fit for a pharmaceutical ad. Warning- buying these clothes might be deadly. You'll die of boredom. Unless you only wear a shirt and nothing else. You know what they say, public indecency is a fashion statement! For the record nothing is wrong with being basic; it's fun to make fun of capitalistic copycats which probably don't even let their workers pee in a bottle, all for an off-white cardigan fit for a widow cosplay. You could even get a handkerchief in the pharmacy nearby.
Marshall slowed and you both marveled at the display- the store. Electric guitars with glossy, colorful, and rich exteriors, mics that cost as much as two pairs of eyeballs on the black market. The store was also filled with various tech. The interior was red and orange, covered with a checker pattern. No one was inside, only the cashier. They were taking a nap on the counter. Soft music played on the speakers. The sign above the entrance flickered. "Gridsound", lit up by a warm glow.
Around the corner was one of the most interesting shops in the AAA Mall, which said something. Flame Topic, a huge corporation trying to make money off people with an alternative style, essentially the same widow cosplay repackaged in a leathery, dark package.
You passed by it as you waved to one of the clerks, a person you knew, Flamber. A funky name for a funky person who was much better than that store but didn't wanna be another unemployed hoodlum.
The store right next to it was an exceptionally empty craft store, Raggedart. The cashier had resorted to doodling in a sketchbook, seated between the aisles. He wore a frumpy, muted in color, messily stitched-together sweater. You turned your head to the side.
Gum & Dia. The owner was Dia Gumm Baldwin, an older woman who had as much scandal surrounding her as she did money.
You hated that store and all of its tacky fast fashion, but the belts seemed okay. Just the belts. You wandered around it, pondering if you should get anything. Marshall was encouraging, at times to fault, so you stayed quiet as you pictured your life with a particular pair of socks. Riveting stuff.
There were a handful of people in the store, and its open nature made you worried, your shoulders tensing and nails digging into your palms. A clerk in all green and a green hoodie over their head with spikes atop it spoke to a couple of customers, gesturing to another section of the store.
You stood closer to Marshall.
"The cashier is looking at me funny… they can't handle the autistic swag," You whispered. He chuckled.
After a lot of meandering around the store, you settled on some belts. Marshall didn't seem interested in getting anything, instead inspecting the enticing crap around the checkout as you paid for your crap, setting the money on the register.
The cashier, a woman with brown hair and a crazy look to her glared at you. She looked so mad you'd think she was staring at an arch-enemy of hers.
"That's not enough."
You dug through your wallet, but no matter how many times you counted the money, you couldn't get the number right, or you didn't have enough money, hell knew, by that point your brain was shutting down.
Your mind blanked, your heart filled with panic and nonsense. You shook, feeling cold yet hot, everything in your eyes blurring and time stopping yet going too fast at the same time. It felt like a nightmare- a nightmare where a tsunami was about to wash over you, and you stood stupid, frozen by icelava. The scenario? Entirely different. The feeling? The utter dread? The same.
You didn't only stand stupid, you felt stupid. You wished you could control it. Control the anxiety.
Marshall found your hand. You didn't react, hand limp and cold. You tried to ground yourself. You were floating off into nowhere mentally as the judgement of the customers and cashier built.
"Ugh, what a weirdo, how can it take so long to pay?" Said a person behind you in line. The person next to them snickered.
"Can you please move it? What, are you scared or something?" The cashier had an air of suffocating smugness about her, glaring at you. You searched for a shred of understanding in her face. She flicked a crumpled-up check at you, and you could only stare in horror.
"Probably one of those people afraid of the world. One of those "mentally ill" ones, you know, the ones seeking attention," Whispered one of the people behind you as though you didn't hear. Not like they have a shit if you did.
Marshall strained to not strum the cashier a new one, also standing like a deer in headlights. An all too familiar reaction to conflict from him. He leaned down to you.
"I'm not saying we should take the stuff and run, but, if you want to, we totally could," He whispered, standing up straight right after as if he hadn't said a thing to you.
Your eyes darted to the register. Your mind went fast, thinking of the pros and cons. It all merged into a big lump of panic. You were filled with feverish worry.
You grabbed the things, gripping them for dear life, running toward the exit as fast as you could. Marshall was nearly perfectly in sync with you.
You ran out of the store and the belts beeped loudly, security chasing after you. Your mind and muscles screamed at you, but you yelled over them.
"You're way too supportive!" You addressed Marshall. You glanced back. The guards were hot on your trail of petty theft. They pulled out their walkie-talkies and gave you icy looks from under deeply furrowed brows. Their thick black and white uniforms, making them look like penguins, slowed them down significantly.
"Sorry for being nice and great and the best," Marshall murmured with utter seriousness as you breezed past the front entrance and past to the parking and beyond. You turned around and around until you were far enough to catch a breather.
You both panted. Your heart burned with cold fire and you buzzed and shook with excitement.
"I don't even want these…" You blinked slowly at the belts in your hands, the post-shoplifting clarity hitting you like a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Spyder. Your panic had begun to ebb and it felt awful. Also like getting hit by a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Spyder.
Marshall looked down at what he had grabbed with even more confusion than you. He had grabbed random crap. A pair of chains with crosses and a black face mask with a cat on it.
"Neither do I care about this chain. Do you want it?" He asked unsurely. Your eyes sparkled. Shinies.
"I'll have that." You grabbed them out of his hands, dropping them into your pockets.
"I care more about those assholes judging us," Marshall sighed, leaning against a wall. You hummed and frowned.
"I don't get it, is it so hard to stay outta our business? Do I have a sign on my back saying JUDGE ME?" You raised your arms to the heavens.
"I sure didn't put one there," He replied with a mischievous tone. You huffed, glancing at him up and down.
"You wouldn't do that."
You looked at your back.
"It's true, I care about you. It's my dirty secret." He turned away, covering his face dramatically.
"Awww! You're rotten!" You shoved him ever so softly. He looked to the side.
"In more ways than one." You fastened the belts around your hips, tags still on. Marshall raised a brow, silently questioning your sanity. He should've done that when he met you. Too late now.
"If anyone questions me I'll turn them into protein powder." You smoothed out your clothes, crossing your arms.
Marshall opened his mouth. He closed it, giving a thumbs up and a shaky grin.
"Let's go to the City Of Thieves bar and then home." You stretched, walking. He followed without question. He tended to do that, especially if you were in a new place, he was like a lost puppy.
"Home?"
"My apartment." You glanced at him.
"Sounds good." He smiled softly, reaching his long arm around your shoulders.
You waited at the bus stop. The bus rolled in, coming to a slow halt. You got on and made your way to the last seat which was almost always empty. The bus was pretty empty too.
"I am not paying for this bus," You whispered to Marshall as you stared outside at the sunset. His grip tightened around your shoulders comfortingly, pulling you into him.
You could hear his smirk.
"Me neither."
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simplynotcapable · 1 month
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i’ve had someone counter my “aegon loves his brother” argument with a reminder about aegon arranging the whore when aemond is thirteen, and i am SO GLAD you brought this up and let me explain why i think this proves my point even more
first, as a preface: aemond was, inarguably, assaulted. i’ve seen people who theorize he was forced, i’ve seen people who think aegon convinced him, i’ve seen people argue that he probably just went along to look cool to his big brother. that’s irrelevant. he was a thirteen year old child, the whore was a grown woman, it was arranged by his older brother who should have been protecting him. he was a child. this was assault. aegon is 100% in the wrong here, what he did to his brother is horrific and twisted.
now, moving on: i do not think aegon did this to aemond with any intention of malice. i do not think he considers what he did wrong, i do not think he saw it as a prank (not in the same way the pink dread was, anyway) or a cruelty.
i think it’s more proof that aegon has a twisted relationship with love and so, in trying to show his love, it comes out cruel.
now, aemond loses his eye at ten in the book. in the show, it’s a little more ambiguous? we don’t have numbers really, so it’s difficult to say. but if we’re going off leo ashton’s age and the appearances of the characters, aemond is around 12-13 when he loses his eye.
you could argue the brothel happened BEFORE driftmark, but based off aegon and aemond’s interactions at the funeral and the prostitute’s lack of reaction to aemond’s missing eye, i would definitely say it happened afterwards.
which means, when aegon takes aemond to the brothel, he has just freshly lost his eye.
aegon takes his freshly mutilated baby brother into the depths of the city and buys him a night with a whore, though aemond is a child and (we can assume from the severity of his reaction when seeing her again) was not fucking on board with this plan at all. he says “time to get it wet”, which can easily be read as a mocking “lol ur a virgin” type insult.
that is not how i see it, and i do not think that’s how aegon sees it (unless we ever see him address this i doubt we’ll ever know, so granted this is also mostly my interpretation of his character)
aegon turned to debauchery at a very young age to escape his world: the pressure from his mother, the fear of rhaenyra, the lack of control over his own life, his absent father. his coping mechanism for everything bad in his life is pumping himself full of alcohol and engaging in risky sexual behaviors.
aemond just had his eye torn out by boys that he and aegon have been raised to believe are bastards whose mother will have them killed. they watched their mother go apeshit, and they watched their father not punish luke. rhaenyra called for aemond to be tortured. aemond is never going to get his eye back and recovering from losing an eye is HELL.
and so aegon sees all these terrible things and offers aemond a coping mechanism. his coping mechnism. “this terrible thing happened to you, and i avoid terrible things with this, so here. here, you can use this, too. here, it doesn’t take it away but you forget it for awhile. here, here, here, look, see, isn’t this better than letting yourself feel it?”
now, none of this is to say it didn’t BECOME one of aegon’s intentional cruelties once they got there. i’m sure if aemond let himself be visibly uncomfortable or tried to argue, aegon very quickly fell back into bullying asshole mode—maybe even worse than usual because he feels aemond is slighting him. but i don’t think any of it was initially rooted in a desire to hurt aemond or humiliate him in any way.
aegon was a little boy who grew up too quickly in some ways and never grew up at all in others, and he tried to drag aemond down that same path because he truly, genuinely sees nothing wrong with the choices he’s made and who he’s become. he started having sex and drinking at a young age, why shouldn’t aemond do the same? it makes him feel better, so why wouldn’t it help aemond?
aegon loves his brother. i think he did this BECAUSE he loves his brother.
i just also think that aegon’s idea of love is so warped that the consequences of him trying to show it are almost always disastrous, and he doesn’t seem to think of how his actions will endanger those around him.
case in point: his little brother being deeply affected/traumatized by an assault that he is not likely to ever truly get over—but aemond’s feelings about this entire thing and how i genuinely believe it’s the partial cause of his later proclivities is an entirely separate conversation.
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lxvenderjewel · 4 months
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song/ship analyses part 9: aziracrow and "goodbye, my danish sweetheart" by mitski
MITSKI TIME MOTHERFUCKERS!! this one will have a lot of like theorizing adjacent stuff
“There's nobody better than you
It took me a while 'til I knew” despite being a demon crowley has better morals than most angels ngl, but azi would be blinded by the fact that he’s a DEMON and probably didn’t realize that fact until the apocawasn’t happened
“But you knew from the start it was us, didn't you?” crowley was in love with azi from the start and he knew it, too. azi was also probably in love with crowley from the start, but he didn’t realize it until 1941. he probably realized crowley had known all along during the s2 finale
“Now I lay as I study a blank wall
Would you spare me your voice if I call?” aziraphale is probably drowning in guilt in heaven, constantly thinking about crowley and how he wants to go back to earth, but he ALSO knows (thinks) that crowley would be livid with him and it scares him
“'Cause you waited and watered my heart 'til it grew” crowley waited the whole time for azi to get to a place where he was comfortable, i firmly believe crowley knew the entire time azi loved him back, he was just waiting for azi to realize it as well, and he just never knew that he already had realized it.
“So, I don't blame you
If you want to bury me in your memory” well this one’s pretty self-explanatory no? azi knows (thinks) crowley would be furious at him and he understands why
“I'm not the girl I ought to be, but” i always interpret this line as “i’m not the angel i ought to be” and well that’s pretty self-explanatory too. azi has never been a perfect angel, and maybe he thinks if he was he wouldn’t be in so much pain
“You can tell them what you saw in me
And not how I turned out to be” azi’s first impression on crowley was that he was an angel that cared so much about humanity he’d go against god’s orders for them. but as they’ve gotten to know each other, crowley’s also learned that azi is selfish. he almost gets discorporated because he wants crepes, he gets convinced to thwart armageddon because crowley brings up his books and restaurants. but he still wants crowley to remember him with the best parts of him, the parts that were in some little part selfless. he wants crowley to have good memories of him, even though he doesn’t (HE DOES) deserve it.
“There's some kind of burning inside me” this is wild wild theorizing but i think azi should’ve fallen by now, crowley was thrown out just for asking questions which azi has done many many times. but maybe god is biding her time, giving him a different punishment? maybe he’ll fall very, very slowly, he won’t even notice
“It's kept me from falling apart
And I'm sure that you've seen what it's done to my heart
But it's kept me from falling apart” and maybe azi knows this too, but he thinks it’s just crowley rubbing off on him, but he loves crowley, so why would he care?
“Now here I lay as I wonder about you
Would you just tell me what I'm meant to do?” remember he wanted crowley to lead with him. crowley and azi have always been a team, so leading by himself must be so stressful, and he def wishes he could just turn and ask crowley what he thinks they should do, before he remembers he didn’t come.
“'Cause I've waited and watered my heart 'til it grew
You can see how it's blossomed for you” in azi’s perspective, he was offering crowley comfort and safety. and crowley rejected that. i won’t pretend to know how azi took that, but he’s def hurt and feels betrayed. what happened to running away to alpha centauri? is this not the same? he took a risk, he asked crowley to run away with him just like crowley had many times before, so why would he reject him?
“You can tell them what you saw in me
And not the way I am” azi wants to be seen as good and heavenly and a pure angel even though he’s not, at least to most people. he didn’t care with crowley but he wishes he’ll at least keep up his good nice angel reputation (he probably will even though he’s heartbroken)
“You can tell them what you saw in me
And not the way I used to be” but maybe, just maybe, azi wants to be remembered as human. purely, unabashedly, human, with his flaws and his strengths, not as if he was some pure angelic force. he tells himself he wants to be a pure good nice angel and that’s why he wants crowley to tell people such. he wants to pretend he’s just the same as before he met crowley, but he’s not. and maybe he likes that. maybe he wants to be human. he wants to be flawed yet still good. but he isn’t. (he is.)
“'Cause there is nobody better than you” crowley is. (so is aziraphale.)
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Playing with a Coroner and a Detective is not wise - Skulduggery x Male!Reader Universe
WARNING!: Mention of Murder, attempted Murder AND MORE ! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!
Part 6 – Convincing Ghastly
“We are investigating the murder on Gordon Edgley.”, Skulduggery answered.
“Murder ?”, Ghastly asked after a short pause.
“That is right.”
“Who would be interested, in killing Gordon ?”
“We think it was Serpine. We think, he searched, for something.”
Ghastly frowned.
“Skul”, Ghastly started, “usually, when you need my help, you come over, we get going and you get me involved into fights. You usually never tell me, about what it is. Why are you doing it now ?”
“This time I need a different kind of help.”
“So, you don’t need me to beat someone up ?”
“We just would like, that you help us, to find out, what Serpine is after.”
Ghastly nodded.
“I understand.”
“You don’t understand anything, do you ?”, Skulduggery asked.
“Yes. I have no idea, what you want from me.”, Ghastly instantly replied.
Before M/n could explain, or Skulduggery could say anything, Stephanie started talking.
“We think that Serpine is after the-HMPH ?!”
M/n slammed his hand over her mouth and gave Ghastly a small smile.
“Little Sister, this is grown up’s business. Shut it.”
“And you count as grown up ?!”, she yelled, as he took his hand away from her mouth again.
“Yes. I have a job, I saw horror, I deal with horror and I grew up faster than other kids. I am an adult stuck in a 16 year old’s body. Now shush.”, M/n replied.
She scoffed and glared into a direction.
“What do you think he is after ?”, Ghastly pressed.
“Listen, Mr. Bespoke-“
“Ghastly is just fine, Corrupted.”, Ghastly kindly interrupted.
“Ghastly it is then... Listen Ghastly, this is just a theory for now, nor do I think it must have been this Serpine guy, but it was most definitely a Mage that is behind this. Rumors go around that Serpine is looking for the Sceptre of Ancients.”, M/n answered carefully.
Ghastly’s face fell and he wanted to say something, but M/n hurried before he could.
“We already know, that you all say it is just a myth ! Don’t start. We already know. Maybe it isn’t the Sceptre at all, but something else, my Uncle had, and it is just supposed to be a cover up or something, so the Mage won’t be stopped from getting their hands on it. As I’ve learned recently, my Uncle was a Collector of stuff from the world of Mages, like Sorrows. Maybe he had something in his possessions that required his death, before they could get it.”, M/n theorized.
Ghastly looked at M/n interested.
“I didn’t think of that right now. That could be a possibility. But it was said that he died from a heart attack. He was a Mortal.”
“Ghastly, with all due respect, have you seen how human doctors work ? They don’t care about people. They don’t do their job properly anymore, since I’ve been at least nine years of age. They tell you that they found nothing, even though there was something and they were just too stupid to notice it. Honestly, why would my Uncle die from something as stupid as a heart attack ? He had no symptoms for such a thing to occur, he had no diseases that could have triggered it, I was living with him and he had my phone number and he died in his study, where he had a phone right NEXT to him on his desk. He would have called me. He always called me when something was wrong. Even if he just felt a bit sick, he called me and I tried my best to help him. I dropped everything for him whenever he needed me.”, M/n told the tailor.
He stared at M/n at that in shock and then started to think too.
“If he had a heart attack, he would have noticed it before it fully occurred. He was very aware of what was going on with his body in such cases. He would have called me at least 10 minutes before it would have happened and I could have sent medical attention his way. I could have tried to get there myself and try to make it go away. But he never called. A routine we agreed on. If one of us felt weird, be it as small as possible, then you have to inform the other. He NEVER broke that rule before.”
“But...it was diagnosed.”, Ghastly said in confusion.
“Ghastly...this is the world of Mages and my Uncle was involved in it. He helped Skulduggery solving cases and stuff. Do you really think a human would have any idea, of telling, if Magic killed him ?”, M/n asked.
The tailor was silent at that.
“And just so you understand Humans better, someone could have also paid the people that diagnosed him, to lie. For money, humans do everything, even if it hurts many other humans in the process.”, M/n added, voice slightly darker.
“You didn’t...examine him ?”, Ghastly asked.
“No. I wasn’t allowed to, nor did I think I could stomach it. But if I think about it, I might dig my own Uncle out of his grave again and inspect him myself.”, M/n replied darkly.
“Wouldn’t that go against your morals and beliefs ?”, Stephanie asked.
“Either my Uncle understands me and won’t haunt me after that or he won’t and I will be damned, but honestly, I should have had the permission to check on him myself. My colleagues never did a proper job anyways and they inspected my Uncle. Hell no.”
“You might risk too much.”, Ghastly warned.
M/n looked at Ghastly, determination, unconditional love and seriousness in his eyes.
“I am willing to risk everything and anything, for my Family. I am willing to give my life for them and I am willing to kill for their safety. I am not scared to do, what has to be done.”, he said.
Ghastly looked taken aback by that statement.
“But, enough about ME. Let’s get back to the case. As I said, the Sceptre thing COULD be a cover up. You all wrote it off as a myth too, but let us state some facts. A lot of things were written off as myths before too and suddenly, they were proven to be true. No matter how old. I would like to scratch every possibility out and follow every lead that I get, to determine if it is a dead end or another open door, to get closer to the whole image. Which is why we wanted to ask of you, to let us take a look at your family’s collectibles, to see if we can find out anything about the Sceptre and other things, that MIGHT help us. I am not just asking you, because I want to join this world, nor because I want to do something for my Uncle for once as a repayment. I am asking this of you, because there is a Murderer running around, telling other Mages what to do and because you were friends with my Uncle too. You knew him too, maybe not as well as Skulduggery, but you knew him. I ask of your help, because of that.”
“This is crazy. The Sceptre is just a fairytale. This world is not yours, you two. You can still back out.”, Ghastly tried to convince.
“Ghastly”, M/n started, “there is no way back for us. We didn’t just see a bit of magic and a living Skeleton. We were actively hunted down by a Mage already. A Mage, that was told to find a key. We have no idea for what it is, but that Mage was ready to kill us TWICE at the SAME night, to get it. He broke into my home, Uncle Gordon’s house, while we were both staying the night there, because the bridge was flooded from the rain. He wasn’t leaving, no matter what you said or threatened him with. I was lucky to have had Skulduggery’s phone number and that he was close by. He was ready to kill us both and I tried to kill him first. After all, he threatened to kill me and then he started to attack me first, so, what do you do, in that situation, when you have a younger sibling, to protect ? You fight back. Then we saw Magic and Skulduggery as a Skeleton. The door was out of its hinges and we could have been attacked any minute as soon as he left, so we made him take us with himself. As we were about to go back home, as it was getting close to the time Mom would have picked up my Sister, we were attacked again by the same Mage, on the road, in the Bentley.”
Ghastly stared at him in shock.
“I saw it just in time. He wanted to ram us off of the road and kill us, I reacted fast and made the Bentley speed up and out of the way. As my adrenaline wore down and I knew we were safe, I stopped the car and got out, to take a breath, only to be attacked by that man again and I tried to fight him off. Skulduggery made it rain and the man fell into pieces, dying right then and there. Ghastly, this not something you want to forget. I LIVE in Gordon’s house, me and my Sister INHERITED it and will share it as soon as she is eighteen years of age. If I go back to my normal life now, you would make me forget this, I bet, and then I won’t remember and I might risk dying again. Whoever sent that Mage to my home, is ready to kill me. He will pay me a visit one day and then what ?”
Ghastly was very silent at that.
“It is too late to turn back now, for us, Ghastly. Please don’t get mad at us or your friend for it. It was just...bad timing all in all. Sometimes stuff like this happens and...you shouldn’t undo it. I don’t want to die, you hear me ? Not like that. If I die, then I want to die, knowing that I knew and tried to stop it and not... being unable to remember, that I should have seen that coming. I understand that you don’t like us joining this world and I understand what you said. You don’t think we should be here and maybe you are right, but this decision is not with you anymore, it is ours, since we were almost killed twice, at the same night, by the same Mage.”
He looked at M/n and sighed, then nodded.
“Alright, I understand...”, Ghastly said defeated.
“Thank you.”, M/n said softly, a small smile on his lips.
Skulduggery and Stephanie were amazed that M/n could sway Ghastly’s mind like that.
“I understand that you think the Sceptre ain’t real. But many times, fairytales were discovered to have been true all along too, so please understand, that I am willing to believe in it, even if it doesn’t exist. I rather go after clues, rumors and theories, investigate, learn as much as I can about it all, before I say it’s a dead end or maybe a step further into the right direction. So I will ask again: Can you PLEASE let us take a look at your families collectibles ?”, M/n asked again, softly.
He looked at M/n for a very long time and then he sighed in defeat, hanging his head and looking down at his feet.
“Fine, alright... I will bring you there tomorrow. Where do we meet ?”, Ghastly asked defeated.
“At my house. Grimwood. I live there and I am usually the last person that Skulduggery has to pick up. Even though, I fear that he will stay over at my house for a bit, while I try to fix his Bentley. As he left my Sister at my home and helped me to be at the place to get my own car back, he got attacked on the road and his Bentley got damaged.”
Ghastly stared at Skulduggery in shock.
“So that’s what Corrupted meant, when he said that he drove you here.”, the tailor said.
“Yep...”
“Okay then, we will meet at Grimwood’s tomorrow at eight o’clock.”, Ghastly stated.
“Okay.”, M/n answered.
Stephanie nodded, she had nothing else to do anyways and Skulduggery mumbled his agreement. Stephanie got up and with that M/n got up too.
“Corrupted ? I have a question.”, Ghastly stopped the Teen boy.
“What is it ?”, he asked.
“You are a Coroner, so you should know this term... What is a Filicide ?”, Ghastly asked.
‘Ah...he wants to test me and see if I am really a Coroner... Not surprising...’
“Filicide is the act of a parent killing their own child.”, M/n instantly answered.
“And Pedicide ?”, Ghastly asked after a short pause.
“The act of killing children.”, M/n instantly answered.
“Huh, you really are a Coroner, aren’t you ? I hoped you were kidding...”
“Believe me, you aren’t the first to hope that. I chose that path and I will stay on it. Any other questions ?”
“When is it the most difficult, to figure out, what the cause of death was ?”
“1.:  It could have been an internal issue and it may not have been previously diagnosed. 2.:  The victim could have been dead for awhile, so the body will be more decomposed which makes the examination more difficult. 3.:  It may not be a visible cause of death and there may be no other medical information to fall back on.”, M/n immediately answered.
Ghastly’s shoulders slumped in defeat.
“Okay. Thank you.”
M/n nodded sharply and then left the shop, with a stunned Skeleton and Stephanie right behind him.
“Were you educated in all that in your scholarship ?”, Stephanie asked.
“Not really. We had to examine fake bodies there and write reports and theorize on how they died etcetera, but we didn’t learn the terms. Not all of them. I taught them myself as soon as I had more than one case with such bodies.”
“So you had to deal with dead children ?”, Skulduggery asked.
“I had to deal with almost everything already.”, M/n answered grimly.
They were silent at that and got inside the Pontiac Firebird.
“Where to now, Mr. Pleasant ?”, M/n asked with a bit of humor.
“Back to your house. I have nothing much planned, besides looking over a few things, that I can also do at Grimwood.”
M/n nodded and started the engine. He looked at his little sister, who sat next to him this time, and smiled. She smiled back.
“That means we will spend more time with one another and I can watch you work on the Bentley.”, she said in triumph.
“No, it means you will rest well.”, M/n replied with a big grin.
She looked at him insulted as M/n started to drive away and back home. Skulduggery only crooked his head in amusement.
‘These two will never stop to fool and insult each other, will they ?’, Skulduggery thought.
As they were on the road for a while, M/n looked into the mirror and directly at Skulduggery.
“So, Skulduggery...I have a question.”
“What is it, Corrupted ?”
‘Right...I have to get used to that now even more...’, M/n thought bemused.
“Serpine...why do you accuse him of everything ? I get it, he killed you, he killed many more in the war, he doesn’t sound like a nice guy right now either and he is dangerous, but I can’t help the feeling, that you have a grudge against him for a whole different reason.”
Skulduggery seemed to stiffen up and he was very silent.
“I am not ready to talk about that yet, Corrupted. But you are right...”, Skulduggery answered after a while.
M/n nodded his head.
“Alright...Fine. No pressure.”
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They arrived not long ago and, after M/n parked his car into the backyard, he ran into the garage to take a look at the Bentley. He huffed in frustration as he saw the driver’s door. It was completely smashed in and very hard to open.
Skulduggery was next to him in a second.
“Can you do anything about that ?”, the Skeleton asked.
“You are lucky that it is only the door. I need to repair the damage, which will take two hours, but it will be fine after. Don’t worry.”, he replied with a smile.
Skulduggery nodded and then left.
For two hours, M/n was tinkering around and a few times either Skulduggery or M/n’s Sister came inside, to check on him. After three hours, M/n was finally done and you couldn’t even tell that it ever was damaged. He smiled and left the garage.
He spotted Skulduggery in the living room, looking over the reports that M/n gave him around midnight.
“Your car is fixed. Took a bit longer than I calculated in, but it is done and I think it doesn’t look all that bad.”, M/n said.
Skulduggery looked up and then got up, checking on his car. The Coroner just sat down and then saw that Skulduggery made small side notes to his research. He read a little bit about it, but was confused at the notes.
Skulduggery soon came back and M/n snapped his head up at him.
“Thank you. You can’t even tell that it was damaged at all. I am impressed.”, the Skeleton said.
“No problem.”
“You read the side notes, didn’t you ?”
“Yep.”
“You are confused what they mean, aren’t you ?”
“Absolutely.”, M/n confirmed.
“Do you want me to explain ?”
“If you want to. Otherwise I will seek out my little Sister and make us dinner.”
Skulduggery sat down next to him and pointed at the notes M/n made.
“The substance was slightly green and blackish. It is almost invisible to the human eye, yet, you saw it. The blackish spots, I suspect, are Necromancy leftovers and the greenish spots, are leftovers of poisoning. You did say that this substance seemed to have climbed their way up, so it is a climbing substance. I will have to bring it to someone who can take a closer look and tell me what poison that is, so I am already looking for someone.”
“Ah...okay.”
Skulduggery continued to explain the rest of his confusing side notes and M/n slowly got the whole image. After like an hour M/n understood the whole thing and got up.
“I get it ! Okay. You have such confusing side note taking skills...honestly. Gordon would have smacked me with the newspapers, if I would have done the same stuff, you do, to him.”, M/n said slightly jealous.
Skulduggery chuckled.
“What can I say ? Your Uncle wasn’t MY Uncle.”
“What is that supposed to mean, huh ?! My Uncle was great ! Sucks to be you, that you didn’t had my Uncle as your own ! Hah ! Suck on that, Skulkin !”
With that M/n sprung up, snatched Skulduggery’s hat and ran out of the room.
“Hey !”, Skulduggery protested, got up and chased after M/n.
Stephanie looked out of the study of her Uncle’s as she saw M/n dashing through the hallway, past her and the room, and entered his own. Not long later did Skulduggery chase after him and he slammed against the door, which M/n slammed shut in the Skeleton’s face. Just then did Stephanie see, that his hat was missing.
“Corrupted ! Give me my hat back !”
“Never, Skulkin !”, M/n replied from inside his room.
M/n hid Skulduggery’s hat in his closet and then sat on his bed, smiling evilly. Stephanie pushed Skulduggery away a bit and opened the door. She sighed as she saw her Brother’s mischievous face. Skulduggery entered.
“Where is it ?”, he asked with a slight warning.
“You have to find it.”, M/n said with a big grin.
“M/n is in a childish mood. Just play along.”, Stephanie told the Detective.
“I swear if you sit on it...”, the Skeleton growled slightly.
M/n frowned and stood up, off of his bed.
“I didn’t as you can see.”, he answered innocently.
Skulduggery muttered something and then he started to inspect the room. After he didn’t find it on any furniture, he stared at the closets and drawers. He opened them all and looked everywhere, but couldn’t find his hat. M/n chuckled and Skulduggery got frustrated. He turned to him.
“I give up. Where did you hide it ?”
M/n got up and went to the last closet, Skulduggery opened, shoved a few clothes aside and opened a small compartment in the back. Skulduggery’s hat was shown and he pulled it out, giving it back to him.
“You need to get better in the game. I will do that more often.”, M/n said.
“That is one of his rare moments where he acts like a kid for a bit.”, Stephanie said as M/n put everything back in place.
Then M/n cooked dinner and after they ate, they went to bed, while Skulduggery stayed the night.
What no one knew, was, that a woman was near the bridge, which led to Grimwood, and killed a Troll. What no one knew, was, that Mr. Bliss talked to her. What no one knew, was, that Skulduggery was right all along. Serpine was about to break the truce. What no one knew, was, that Bliss tried to avoid it somehow, so they won’t slip back into a war. What no one knew, was, that he was concerned that he won’t succeed.
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shae-s-heartsong · 9 months
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On unusual reactions and complex situations (GO2 ending)
So, I see a lot of interesting theories, analyses and speculations about what happens at the end of S2 out there, and regardless of if I agree with them or not, I keep track of everything, because every perspective is interesting and enriching.  I do observe, though, that a lot of these posts assume things about how Aziraphale and Crowley react (and I mean, I DO THAT AS WELL), and use these assumptions as arguments for their theories - without nuancing them.
The thing is that we don’t exactly know for sure what happened exactly in both our character’s heads; and we don’t know how they are supposed to react to the situation. Because we never had such a situation. YES, we had similar situations, which helps to have an idea of what’s normal or what’s not, or at least what is usual. But that’s just what it is. Ideas. And while it is totally valid to try to make a point and use the examples and clues we have, it is important to nuance them, if you theorize (speculating is a different thing). If I’m writing that, it’s because a lot of people seem to focus on the fact that Crowley’s reaction after Aziraphale left is unusual and like I said, use that as an argument.
From what I read, it seems difficult to imagine that Crowley’s so calm and still, that he barely shows anything, that he’s not getting angry or shouting or something like that. To that, I want to answer: by what standard? Why do you assume that he should ALWAYS react the same way to things that affect him? And why does his body language seem so strange to so many people?
Personally, I didn’t find that strange (but I am autistic so not the biggest authority for that tbh). In fact we already saw him reacting in similar ways.  Now I know that I said that it wasn’t enough of an argument, but I read many people saying that we didn’t. But we did. For example, after Aziraphale and him had an argument because of Gabriel, when he goes to his car, he looks absolutely exhausted and he probably would have stayed like that if Beelzebub did not appear in his car.
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I know that this happens after he gets angry, but it still proves that he can show that type of behavior, if he’s tired enough. We can reasonably imagine that the kiss he gave to Aziraphale was a gesture of despair and replaced the “I’m getting angry” phase. We can also imagine that Aziraphale still rejecting his offer (which in his mind is probably rejecting him) after THREE different attempts to make him change his mind (1- try to convince him 2- kiss him 3- wait for him) was enough to just absorb all of his energy, all of his anger, all of his frustration. Maybe he’s just DONE. Maybe he just doesn’t always react that way. I mean, he was so close to obtaining what was, in his eyes, happiness. It’s something that never happened before - at least not with Aziraphale so close to say yes. Can you imagine how crushing that must be for him to let go of that hope?  And well, maybe the anger will come. After. Things only just happened. He’s still processing them. 
I could go on and talk about other details that seem to bother people but it’s rather useless -  I mean, maybe I’m wrong, and also, I think that there are pieces that we might not have yet. It’s just that I’m frustrated when people don’t go for reasonable assumptions before diving into more obscure theories (using these primal elements as introduction or simply nuance).
And I’m frustrated when people say that Crowley, or Aziraphale, shouldn’t react the way they do - I know that details matter in Good Omens, but also, you can’t expect them to exhibit the exact same behavior in situations with different degrees of stakes. (I don’t know if I make sense). And I think this is one of the most complex, delicate situations they have ever been in - after centuries of living in survival mode, they finally come to the crashing point where there life model isn’t enough anymore, when even the love they share for each other is no longer enough - because their belief systems, their desires and the state of their trauma processing are on complete opposition. And they have to finally face it - without the other. This is unprecedented. 
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spaceyflowers · 2 years
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lua im rambles/thoughts !! (based on ch 398)
um. be warned this kind of turned into a very informal mini essay ^_^;;
first impression of her is... okay! her character design is very pretty tho 💖 anyways she was just introduced so i dont want to say anything too harsh yet; gonna wait until more of her is shown before making a real opinion. still, im still mad at how ptj is currently handling her and worried for how her future will look.
first i will start off by saying that when she did this i laughed because i love how dramatic she is <3
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confusion and curiousity
ok now onto stuff i wanna say: her only super amazing skill is gathering information, so much so it was even praised by gun. does she know this or is it word of mouth only? has she ever met gun or has he ever told this to her personally? how did she get so good at gathering information and how does she do it; how will it be shown? whats her background like?
speaking of that, based on whats currently been revealed; im... really confused? jake and jerry speak as if they dont know her at all, even referring to her with the wrong pronouns like they've never met her before but they still trusted to leave her in charge while they were away saving sinu...?
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they also speak like theyre intimidated of her and deadass ran away when they heard she was coming which is... kind of funny but like. why. jerry's word choice is also pretty harsh 😭 even if this translation is off so the wording seems more cold, the tone is pretty set in stone for how he feels about lua
and im confused for how she came into big deal? jerry says she was able to come inside big deal with info gathering skills like she wasnt a member that they welcomed in like family--she just snuck in/blackmailed (im using that term VERY lightly) them into joining and they just let her in with no other choice??
but then in these panels jason speaks fondly of her:
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does he, brad, and lineman all personally know her while jake and jerry dont and are scared of her....? and it seems like shes been a part of big deal for some years seeing as shes probably 17-19 in current time but in the flashback shes probably 14 at the youngest or something.
the girls on the street are also implied to have raised her so surely shes met jake and jerry at some point but they talk like shes a secret agent theyve never seen in their entire life while she talks like she knows them and has met them before ?? how come only jason, brad, and lineman seem to know her enough to be comfortable with meeting and casually chatting with her ?? (also lineman being a chair for her 😭😭😭) am i misreading or missing context or something ?????
complaints and concerns
once again i will complain about ptj being too much of a coward to make the girls be strong and able to fight. like the second i saw this panel i was bashing my head on the wall. shes introduced like "shes good at muy thai" and then immediately after "shes not good at it tho" fuck off 💀
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secondly i feel the same concern a lot of other people have already expressed ! it's her involvement with johan, of course
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like this post says here, im worried if johan actually ends up trusting her, he'll feel upset knowing she only grew closer to him to make him an ally of big deal. even if her feelings for caring about him do eventually grow genuine, im pretty sure johan would be upset either way. i guess the best outcome would just be for him to forgive her and then i guess they start dating? 😭
urgh but thats the thing, too... she just exists as a love plot device to help the men of big deal and to serve as johan's love interest ?! nothing for herself ...? unless she does something jaw dropping to help advance the story with her info gathering skills alone then im convinced she just exists as a love plot device to advance the story 💀
also sucks to say but her gender definitely plays into her character. if its not as this post theorizes that ptj just changed big deal no.5 from a guy to be a girl to have more girl characters "that can fight", then big deal no.5 was definitely made as a girl to play a love interest. why tho...? i know this can just be countered with "why not?" but i feel like johan is in way more need of a friend than a lover 😭
could be a friends to lover thing of course but it just irks me that no.5 could've been a guy and johan couldve just made a new friend (theres still worries about manipulation ofc). unless ptj somehow only keeps lua and johan just friends... maybe in another timeline lol but im pretty sure the direction is heading towards a romantic thing
and yet i still have to ask Why. was a new character necessary? will lua play a bigger role other than this obvious love plot device thing? if so, i'll be more willing to look past her plot device concept but if shes just relevant to make johan friendly with big deal and immediately tossed into the background right after because the plot is gonna go back to focusing on the guys fighting again once johan probably trusts big deal to join their side, i will... be frustrated, to say the least <3
and if she does just serve as a plot device then i guess she's just excuse for filler(?). why couldnt we have just seen johan slowly befriending big deal over time tho? 😭 i think thatd be way more fun to see; the big deal guys awkwardly trying to befriend johan who is cold to them at first but eventually befriends them and becomes like a lil bro to the guys ?? like damn let johan join big deal family ???? it would be a nice twist too because of how he almost joined them in the past until samuel rejected him but now he's basically part of the gang? (but again, johan would probably still be upset if he finds out their first intentions)
or hell, bring jace back on the scene! wouldnt it be fun to see jace somehow stumbling into friendship with johan again and big deal taking advantage of the situation? like they go up to jace and say "hey so youve been hanging out around johan lately do you mind telling him big deal is trustworthy and stuff ^_^" and jace realizes hes suddenly in some kind of dilemma?! maybe burn knuckles gets involved too and big deal befriends them all. we could see vasco and jake interacting again, have a bunch of these dudes become good buddies and bonding over how much they love their leaders (big deal with jake and burn knuckles with vasco ofc) i think that would be fun.
...i miss the j high kids so much.
on another note. if lua is still on the scene, i still think it would be fun if jace got involved again. like considering jace's intelligence, im curious to see if he would find out lua's intentions and how he would handle the situation. would he understand? would he warn johan? (maybe even speaking from past experience of when he got manipulated by that one girl 😭😭)
conclusion
i dont have much hope for lua plot-wise, just bare minimum with wanting some of my questions answered. i do hope she's shown having friendly banters/interactions with big deal though, it'd be great if i could add her to my big deal family agenda !! for now she's outside of it tho... ;;
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Hello! I am a random anon but I wanted to leave some positivity and discuss with you since I agree with you. I will leave some anon and I look forward to chatting with you ^^ First, I'm a Ferdibert fan who dislikes Edelgard. So don't worry: there is good company lol Hubert and Ferdinand are my favorite Black Eagles. I resent the concept that one must love Edelgard to be able to ship them. Edelgard is not part of the ship: she's not mandatory to like Ferdibert at all. Her stans are insufferable.
Hi random anon! I'm sorry it took me so long to reply! First of all, I am so glad to hear there's more of us! I could never find the others like me before, and several people told me it was weird that I didn't which felt like gaslighting to me at the time since... well, I was actively searching and not finding anything. I feel like people are a bit more open to it privately but not publicly. I miss my otp, but I've lost all interest in fics and fanart from a cf universe. That being said, if you ever want to ask about my headcanons/au's or share your own, that is why I have my askbox open! I'm glad to have you and thankful that you reached out!
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Gosh, I remember they utter chilling silence I got in response when I said I thought she was a better villain than a protagonist previously. I've also seen several stans say that AM goes out of its way to make you hate her. Ironically, most people I hang out with now find AM to be the route she's the most sympathetic in! And I agree with you! She's tragic in AM, but there I could at least see her and be like "you know what, I feel like I understand you and I respect your choices." To me, AM is even, in a bitterweet way, a good end for her because ultimately she chooses her end there. She gets the very clear option of life or death, and she chooses death because to her it is the better alternative (why is another matter. Is she unwilling to surrender? Is she convinced that she will not be able to get her army to stand down? Has she just given up? Either way, death is her choice in that moment)
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It really is a shame that I think you're right. I was very very close to liking all of Houses, but with the caveat that CF is to me a villain route that is trying to make you feel like a hero. Y'know, like most villains feel they are. But after three years of discourse, I can't stand the route any more. And it is such a shame too because Fates had, as its whole point, that you need to play all routes to know the truth. And I really liked it when Houses came out that they seemingly went the same way. I like puzzling things together, I like seeing people theorize. And this time, it shot itself in the foot something fierce. And I really really hope they'll learn from it because if they keep going with this formula the FE series is in a bad state.
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I do love talkative asks so don't worry about that! And again, I agree with you. When I finished Houses I lauded it as one of my new fav games. I compared it to Path of Radiance, my fav in the series, because of how it gripped me. I thought it was a game that truly got into gray morality when I looked at Rhea, and I loved the tragedy of Ladle character and how she was basically repeating history because she refused to learn the truth of both past and present. And then fandom happened. It is tainted ground now. My roommate even told me not to play the games any more because he saw how it affected me. And it pains me because it didn't have to be this way! It could've been good! It could have been consistent! It could have had Good Routes instead of just A Fav Route And Damn The Rest. It frustrates me to no end. So... I'm really glad you sent all these asks. It made me feel a bit better. Feel free to send me any Ladle-less ferdibert thoughts!
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dramaticoil · 9 months
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By had a whole day of talking with a friend.
It was a very cathartic experience. Some days ago I was convinced that I was in the worst state of my life because I had lost so many things. I have become somebody else and I was grieving who I used to be.
When I spoke to this friend I related my negative experiences but within those negative experiences, even for short bursts of time, I had good experiences too.
My last year of school life, I felt horrible in one domain but I had an experience which I was grieving for the days before. In school I had the best romantic experience. I am not sure if anyone will or has had such a beautiful romantic experience as I did. I wrote poetry and I felt butterflies in my stomach for real.
Even in college within all the turmoil and the horrible things, I remembered that one experience with a very good person. How good I felt inside. How respected, clean and honest the experience was. Within all those negative things that were happening and the memories of those negative things I had completely forgotten that there were some minutes, some hours in which I truly enjoyed myself.
I cannot see that I did not have my fair share of romance or adventure or butterflies in my stomach. I did and they will stay with me for ever as cherished experiences. The word some best moments of my life.
While reading this psychology book I realised that there is attendance see that some experience which make indelible marks on you appear to be the only experience is you ever had after sometime because they bring you pain. However when we look back we realise that within all those things there were some hours or some minutes in which we really enjoyed ourselves.
I had very good friends in college. Friends who made all these negative experiences dull. The loved me and I loved all of them and they made those moments feel good.
So within all the condescension, terrible sheets that happened there were actually very very good things too. I was not completely unhappy.
I felt so good when I was loved by a boy even when I was fat and inconfident about my appearance. He told me I was so beautiful and for the moment that we were together, our companionship was eternal. I felt true love. Many people now say that true love does not exist and things end. It does not matter what happens in the future. It matters what was felt in the moment. In that moment I had felt pure joy. Pure unadulterated, senseless, stupid joy. He was the most handsome boy in the world for me and I love him and was attracted to him and every time I saw him I did not even have to like or sieve out my words. I felt things inside me which were so special that I never felt them again. The adventure, the pure pleasure, the security and belief in love, butterflies in my stomach and excitement to see the face of this man that I was waiting for such a long time.... I have felt all of this.
Even when a little bit of it had died, I did feel the last parts of this. It was wild and beautiful. It was like a cracker which burst in the sky. Excitement, the thrill, this time there was no belief or that silly sense of security anymore because it at already become silly as I had grown up. There was still that thrill, the choosing of the words and the flirtation. The desire to put on a dress and be looked at. Looking for expressions and theorizing.
The point is that I have felt all of this. I have all these experiences. I am not going to die without having felt good things. Sometimes in my grief I convince myself that I am going to die without feeling good things. This is not fair because I have felt these good things. These are really precious memories. I felt powerful and respected in some domains by some people.
My friends never disrespected me, these lovers never disrespected me. It is not like I walked out in the streets and everybody was breathing down my neck and persecuting me. There are memories I can revisit in which very very good things happened. These memories make me feel happy.
I feel unhappy because sometimes I convince myself that there are things I can't do now that is why I am being kept from certain experiences of life. I do have experience of friendship, deep friendship. I have experience of that silly true love which everybody deserves which gives them the confidence about their appearance and their insecurities. I have experience of that crush who responds to your overtures and there are butterflies in your stomach and you are excited to meet them in secret in some ungodly hour. These are what I want to remember. From now on I am going to remember these experience as my formative experiences. These are the experiences of my youth. I had good times. These are mine and nobody can take them away from me.
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maximons · 3 years
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All Is Lost
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Summary: Zombies have taken over the world, humanity on the edge of extinction. All hope was lost. Despite that, Wanda couldn’t seem to let go of Y/n, who had fallen victim to the plague herself.
Word Count: 2,263
Genre: Angst
Requested?: No
Warnings: Graphic depictions of violence, death, cannibalism, suicide, mentions of blood. Spoilers for Ep. 5 of What If...?
A/N: I know, I know, I’m gonna get into the stuff I promised soon. But for now, the Zombies episode inspired me and this came out. If you haven’t seen the episode yet, go watch it. Its amazing and depressing. Also this is DARK guys, probably the darkest thing I’ve ever written, so...Happy Reading!
The Zombie apocalypse was always something everyone joked about, but never something that anyone could actually predict.
Everything happened so quickly, Wanda could barely keep up. It’s hard to believe that everything was so normal only two weeks ago. Now, she was locked away with Vision in an abandoned military base in New Jersey. Desperate to survive for as long as possible while Vision worked on a cure.
Some of his experiments had been a success, most notably Scott Lang who he was able to revert back from his zombified state. However, the man was now only a severed head.
Despite the success, Vision was less than optimistic. For one, Scott was one of the first infected. While the cure worked on him, the android theorized that the disease has mutated greatly since then, and it was likely impossible to cure everyone. And even if he could, the technology to do so is beyond human comprehension and therefore doesn’t exist.
Vision might have all but given up hope, but Wanda didn’t. She couldn’t. She refused to give up on you.
Wanda and you have been best friends for as long as Wanda had been an Avenger. You were already a member of the team and greeted her with an open mind and open arms, despite all she had done. You had fire powers, and while your powers weren’t identical to Wanda’s, you still offered some basic tips and tricks to keep such explosive powers at bay.
It wasn’t a surprise that she fell in love with you.
But her stupid fear had to get in the way, and when you came to confess your own feelings for her, she panicked and rejected you. You were so heartbroken, Wanda didn’t need to read your mind to know that.
And it kills her everyday knowing that that was the last interaction she had with you. The last one with you as yourself anyway.
All that remained now was the flesh hungry, blood thirsty monster that wore your, now rotting, skin.
This wasn’t you, she knows that. She looked into your mind and saw no trace of the woman you once were, the one she loved with all her heart. She couldn’t feel you, you were gone.
Despite this, Wanda couldn’t let you go. She couldn’t handle losing you entirely. She already lost almost everyone.
She managed to convince Vision to keep you in the base for testing. You were locked behind a large steel door, with only a window to see you through. But you were here, and that’s all Wanda cared about.
The cure wasn’t working for you. Your powers caused it to incinerate when it entered your system, proving it to be ineffective. Still, she refused to give up.
Vision thought it best to terminate you after the failed tests, but Wanda begged him not to. Knowing he couldn’t overpower her, and sensing his friend’s distress with anything that comes to you, he agreed. As long as Wanda had it under control.
She doubted he knew that she was luring innocent survivors into the base so you could feed on them, but she did what she had to do.
Wanda spent most of her days sitting outside of your cell. The first few days, you were ravenous. Banging on the walls and trying to burn them down, growling and screeching with the inhuman noise that took over your vocal chords, but you didn’t manage to break free. After a while, it seemed you have given up, and just sat in place. Only moving when Wanda opened the cell and let some of your ‘food’ in.
There were times where Wanda thought that maybe, just maybe, the cure was working more than they thought. You seemed to have recognized her, your facial expressions formed into ones that she had recognized and missed dearly. But that hope quickly died when she would peek into your head and still sense nothing.
“Hey, Y/n.” Wanda walked up to outside your cell and sat cross-legged like she did everyday. Your head rose, staring at her with your now glowing yellow eyes. “Still no progress on the cure, but don’t worry, I’m not giving up yet.” You offered no response, not that she expected one. “It’s hard. It’s only getting worse out there...” She sighed as she trailed off. She raised her hand to the glass, like she always did. “I’m going to figure it out...we’re gonna get you back to normal, and I’m going to tell you every day how much I love you. I miss you so much, but...we’re almost there. I can feel it...” Wanda’s voice started choking up, as tears ran down her face. “We deserve our happy ending.”
Her hand was still pressed against the glass as she finished her speech. She was about to lower it, but then something unexpected happened. You stared at her hand curiously, beginning to raise your own. Wanda watched, smile forming on her face as your arm made it’s way to the glass. 
“Wanda! Please come here, we have a situation.” You had almost pressed your hand against Wanda’s, when Vision’s voice interrupted. Your attention turned to the direction it came from and you let out a growl, clearly angry at the interruption. Wanda sighed in disappointment, but she tried not to let it take over. You still showed massive improvement, something worth reporting back to Vision. “It’s okay.” She soothed you. “I’m going to go see what he wants then I’ll be right back, okay? I know you’re hungry, I’ll get you some food too.” You didn’t offer a response as she walked off.
“Vis! I have to tell you-” Wanda began as she walked into the main room, but cut herself off at the new faces. She didn’t recognize the bald woman with the spear or the wimpy looking man in a workers uniform, but she was familiar with Peter. What surprised her most though, was Bruce Banner. A man she hasn’t seen in over three years. “What is going on?”
“I ran into them outside the premises. Apparently word has gotten out about the cure.” Vision answered before turning his attention back to the guests. “As I told you, I am afraid we cannot help you. The cure seems to be a moot point.”
“Well, what about-” Peter began, but he was interrupted by a new voice.
“For something you have no hope for, you sure don’t have a problem bringing in new test subjects.” Wanda recognized Bucky Barnes’ voice. She turned around, and her eyes widened as she saw King T’challa on his arm, struggling to stand on his one remaining leg.
Shit.
“My king! We thought you dead.” The bald woman exclaimed in relief and surprise.
“Your highness. I was not aware you were in the base.” Vision said, confused on how that got by him. It didn’t take him long to figure out why. “Wanda...”
“I’m sorry.” Wanda whispered, knowing she was caught. “The cure wasn’t working on Y/n, and in order to keep her at bay, I had to feed her.”
“So you fed her our King?” A spear was raised to her throat, threateningly.
“It was nothing personal, I promise. I have her under control and the cure is starting to work, I know it. We just need a little more time!”
“Why not just kill her? You lured innocent people to their deaths just for her when there a couple million more Zombies out there that you could use for testing. Ones that have a chance of being cured.” The whole room went quiet after Bucky said that.
“Uh oh. Shouldn’t have said that.” Wanda heard Scott say, but she was too busy glaring at Bucky. Her eyes started to go red, but before she could do anything, she noticed the spear held to her throat begin to glow red and melt. The woman dropped the spear as it began to burn her hands.
“Did it just suddenly get like, super hot?” Peter asked as he began to fan himself.
“Oh no...” Wanda trailed off. She looked up to notice the steal walls that led to your cell begin to melt. “You’ve done it now...she hasn’t eaten in days.” Before anyone could respond, the steel doors melted completely. The man in the uniform was unfortunate enough to be standing in front of it, as a strong burst of flame shot out and incinerated him on the spot. Only a second later, you flew out the door, covered in flames as you hovered above everyone.
Wanda watched in horror as you began to fight everyone. They weren’t holding up very well, and that’s when Wanda finally realized what she had done. This wasn’t you, and if you were still here, you would hate to see your body be used to attack and kill others.
“Vision! Get us out of here!” She heard Bruce yell, and Vision shot a blast towards the wall, blowing it up and letting everyone out. Wanda turned her focus back to you, you watched them starting to escape and you began to fly after them, but a red mist surrounded you before you could. You turned your head, starting to growl, but stopped when you saw it was Wanda.
“Y/n. Stop...” You tilted your head, still struggling to move as Wanda came closer. She took a chance and reached up, gently placing a hand on your face. “I am so sorry...you never deserved this...” Your face softened at the touch, beginning to show the signs of emotion that Wanda desperately held onto. However, it was clear now that it was too late.
You snapped out of it, as you managed to break free from Wanda’s hold. You opened your mouth wide, intent on biting and feeding on her, but something stopped you. You hesitated, and Wanda noticed. You settled for pushing her aside to the ground as you reignited yourself and flew out of the base.
Wanda picked herself up after a moment, intent on stopping you. She ran past Okoye’s body, charred and eaten, but she was sure there was little time until she turned. She ran faster to where you were, now facing off against Bucky. She sprinted further, about to take off and fly when she paused.
Vision was face down on the ground. She kneeled next to him, glowing red hand turning over his body, afraid of what she’ll see. Once he was turned, Wanda gasped at the sight. The mind stone was torn out of his head.
“Oh no...no, no, no...” She held his body, tears slowly building as she mourned the loss of her best friend. She had officially lost everything. “I am so sorry Vis...I’m going to make this right, I promise.”
She heard Bucky scream. She looked over to see you start to feed on him. She saw Bruce, Peter, Scott and T’challa in the distance, making their way to the jet. They were your next target.
No. Wanda wasn’t going to let that happen. It ends now.
She used her powers to propel herself forward, landing directly in your path. You growled at her yet again as she used her powers to hold you. “Y/n...please, stop.” You struggled to get out of the hold, but Wanda held on. “This isn’t you...you wouldn’t want this...I love you more than anything, and I’m so sorry...I hope one day, you’ll forgive me.” 
Wanda used her powers to grab the gun laying by Bucky’s side. She held in to your head, ready to pull the trigger...but she couldn’t. She let out a scream of frustration and dropped her hold on both you and the gun. The gun fell to the ground, but you haven’t moved.
“I can’t do it...I...I’m not strong enough...” Wanda began crying, shutting her eyes and waited for you to finish her off. She failed everyone, no one deserved death more than her. She opened her eyes when nothing came. You stood, staring at her with a tilt of your head. The yellow of your eyes dimming as you stared.
“W....Wan...” You struggled to let out, but it was enough for Wanda to hear. She cried even harder. She was right, you were almost there...but it was too late now.
You took in your surroundings as best you could, you didn’t have a lot of awareness, but you knew enough to piece everything together. You saw the influx of zombies starting to enter to base.  Everyone needed to get away. You turned back to Wanda, and you knew what you had to do. You felt the little control you had start to slip away.
You bent down and picked up the discarded gun. You shakily pointed it to your temple, the control slipping away faster and faster. “Love....you....I...sorry...” You managed to croak out. Before you could lose control completely, you pulled the trigger.
Wanda watched in horror as you shot yourself in the head. Pieces of your brain landing on her, your blood drenching her. She looked down to see your body, half your face still together, but you were gone. Truly gone.
She knelt down sobbing, as she held your body. After a moment she looked up to see the Hulk appear as the zombies began to overwhelm the base. She saw the jet take off, and she gave a weak smile. They got away. Wanda’s job was done. This is where her story ends. All was lost for her.
So when the zombies finally reached her, she didn’t fight back. Accepting her death with open arms.
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Papyrus for the character asks
First Impression: I am so, so sorry to say that my first impression of Papyrus was...bad. I saw him talking about all the things he utterly deserves and I was convinced he was a narcissistic jerk (to be fair, someone...close to me was a narcissist so I definitely started with a bias). I also thought Sans was evil at first though...and Toriel, so...
Impression now: Obviously I adore him now. It didn't take long for me to change my initial opinion of him. He is a wonderful person! He says he loves himself, but he very clearly loves others very much too. I love his belief that anyone can be a good person if they just try. He is truly one of my heroes, and I want to be more like him. He isn't a jerk at all! He is creative, passionate, caring, and deserving of the respect and recognition he wants! I wish I could tell him how much people in this universe love him, and how many of us wish we could be his friend(s) 💖
Favourite moment: It is so, so hard to choose just one. I love this man so much. But if I had to pick only one, it would be right after the electricity maze puzzle where he just...flies backwards to the next room. Kinda like how Rouxls and Lancer just slide/levitate away. Oh! Or that moment after his fight where he just flies offscreen and back to his house! Or maybe when he wipes his feet on Undyne's welcome mat before going inside her house? Or when he smashes through the window....GAH! THIS IS HARD!
Idea for a story: Hmm...this might lead into more headcanon territory, but I sometimes wonder if Papyrus is from the same place Sans is. It's theorized that Sans is from the world of DELTARUNE, and that Papyrus must be as well, but I can't help but think of a scenario where our beloved Papyrus is actually from the land of UNDERTALE. I imagine a case where Sans ends up lost in another world and replaces Papyrus's brother Sans in that world. Maybe Sans wasn't so good to his little brother in DELTARUNE (I mean, he doesn't even wanna hang out with you guys! And he doesn't say his name...), but he's given a second chance in UNDERTALE's world, so that's why he treats Papyrus so much better...
Unpopular opinion: I think Papyrus is actually very talented and incredibly intelligent. He might even be good at cooking pasta, but goes along with Undyne so SHE doesn't feel bad about her lack of cooking skills! At the very least, if he had a good teacher, he might be better at cooking. He doesn't lack in the creativity or talent department. He crafted an invisible maze. He made a snow sculpture that looks incredible. He painted a whole bridge so much like a wooden one that unless he specifically tells you it's made of stone in a phone call, you would never know! I don't infantalize him the way popular fandom seems to (although I've noticed a growing number of people who treat Papyrus like the capable adult he is)
Favourite relationship: It's hard to choose between his brotherly relationship with Sans and his friendship with Undyne. But...I think it's his relationship with Sans. There are so many little details that make me love them as family: Sans reading to him and helping him make his cardboard sentry station/battle body; Papyrus playing dumb when Sans is around in a typical younger-brother fashion; Papyrus wanting Sans to work harder, and clean more, and despite being goaded constantly, Sans still calls his brother a star. As someone with a (twin) brother, their relationship makes me smile. Also, my brother loves making spaghetti...except he's actually good at it lol
Favourite headcanon: Papyrus uses he/they pronouns and is actually nonbinary. First bit of "evidence": the notes on his door that say "no girls allowed", "no boys allowed", "Papyrus allowed". Second bit of evidence: his fashion sense. It tends to be a bit creative (see: basketballs as shoulder pads, hearts on shoulder pads, customized clothing, costumes, etc.). During a phone call in Hotland, while griping about steam vents, he mentions off-handedly the downside of using a steam vent when wearing a dress. He never mentions gender, leading me to believe he doesn't really gender clothing (and why should he? Monsters don't appear to have the same ideas of gender and sexuality that humans do). Mostly I just like this headcanon bc it means he's trans and that we go by the same pronouns :)
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itsclydebitches · 3 years
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I’ve been seeing an uptick in “anti-RWDE” posts lately  — which is a phenomenon I’d like to comment on at a later date  — but for now one of them (quite unintentionally) made me realize something about the finale that I haven’t seen others discuss yet. 
So RWBYJNOR saves everyone, right? Let’s just put aside the animation for a moment  — which didn’t show any army members making it out  — as well as the forgotten side characters  — Maria, Pietro, Qrow’s group isn’t forgotten, but still left behind  — and take things on good faith here. We’ll read the finale through the thematic intention: RWBYJNOR saved “everyone” in the Kingdom of Atlas in Volume 8, deliberately contrasting them with Ironwood who was willing to sacrifice a chunk of the Kingdom in Volume 7. Forget all the messiness and just accept that regardless of the consequences  — like a destroyed Kingdom and a “dead” team  — the heroes are heroic because they didn’t give into a “lesser evil” thinking and managed to save everyone. 
Now, how was that possible? 
Let’s go back to the beginning of the seventh episode of Volume 8, “War.” Salem’s grimm have just burrowed through Atlas’ defenses and taken them out. The shields are gone. She flies Monstra into the fields and releases an army of darkness that immediately heads for the city. What’s the very first thing Ironwood does? 
Soldier: Yes, sir?
Ironwood: I am evacuating all citizens to the subway. Prepare Manta Squad Omega, and dispatch to every part of Atlas.
Soldier: But sir-
Ironwood: Now!
He evacuates the people, with “the people” meaning all the Atlesians and however many Mantle folk got to the city prior to Salem’s arrival. When this episode aired I mentioned being confused as to why the soldier was so hesitant. Why wouldn’t you want the people to get to safety when a grimm army is heading their way? Fans against Ironwood took the soldier’s side, claiming that Mountain Glenn proved that any underground evacuation is a death sentence and thus he obviously doesn’t really care about the peoples’ safety. Fans in support of/neutral towards Ironwood pointed out that this is a pretty big leap, no one is coming up with a better idea for what he should do instead, and that within these circumstances it reads like the soldiers is illogically against this idea simply because everyone is against Ironwood now. The show wants characters criticizing his decisions and making him out to look like a crazed dictator... even during moments when it doesn’t make any sense to be upset with him. Shooting the councilman yes, trying to keep the people safe no. Basically, this small exchange was a mess, but the rest of the volume proved that this was a sound call. The subway never collapsed and no grimm ever made it to that enclosed space to pick the civilians off like fish in an underground barrel. 
So, why didn’t that happen? Well, one answer is because Oscar and Ozpin destroyed the whale. But how did they have time to do that? Without the people dying while they were being tortured, talking to Hazel, escaping with Emerald, fighting Salem, etc.? A lot happened between Salem starting her attack and Oscar ending it, so why wasn’t 2/3rds of the Kingdom’s population decimated during that time? 
Because Ironwood sent his army out to keep the grimm occupied. 
Outside of Ironwood’s cartoon villain actions  — random murders and bomb threats  — which get the most attention due to how deliberately, over-the-top horrific they are, these are the two actions that get the most negative attention from both the story and the fanbase. The soldier seems horrified by the order to evacuate. Marrow is devastated that young adults are fighting in this battle. The fandom is disgusted by both aspects of Ironwood’s character: giving orders that, as general, he expects to be obeyed and having an army that follows those orders. Putting side that cartoon villainy, this is what supposedly makes Ironwood the antagonist here. These are the qualities that have existed since Volume 2, resulting in a “he was always a bad guy” interpretation. These are the qualities that have resulted in anyone who likes his character being labeled as a “bootlicker.” We know these qualities make the fandom hate him because otherwise, more people would be confused as to why a presumably heroic character randomly shot Oscar. Orders, armies, and general military associations are at the heart of Ironwood’s presumed villainy. 
So let’s remove them. 
Ironwood has no evil army. Ironwood gives no evil orders. Power and control lies solely in the hands of our non-military heroes. Everything is better! 
...well, no. Because we saw in Volume 8 precisely the choices our heroes made when the attack started: half of them focused on saving a single individual (Oscar) and the other half kept to the sidelines. At no point did our RWB group act after sending the message and prior to securing the Staff. AKA, during the attack of Salem’s army. We got a very explicit moment in which Ruby looked out the window at the battle going on and turned away from it, continuing to discuss ethics instead of joining the fight. The people of Atlas (which, again, includes many Mantle citizens) had no one but Ironwood and his army because a third of the group was trying to rescue Oscar (they never even had a plan to blow up Monstra — that was also Ironwood), a third of the group was up in Amity, and a third was sitting in the mansion. They did nothing to help the people of Atlas being attacked by grimm. 
Thus, if you remove Ironwood’s actions, everything goes to hell. There is no longer an order to evacuate to the subway. Maybe some people go there anyway. Most probably don’t. They run in a panic wherever they can. Hide wherever they can. Go back home for some semblance of safety. 
There’s no longer an army. Either it doesn’t exist because we’ve determined it’s simplistically bad despite RWBY’s grimm-specific context, or Ironwood likewise never gives the order to protect Atlas’ border. Salem’s army moves unimpeded through the city, killing countless people as it goes. How do we know? Because they’re civilians who can’t defend themselves and there’s literally no one else to help. Remember: Ironwood is not giving orders, there is no army, RWB is in the mansion, YJOR is in the whale, Penny is out of commission, the Happy Huntresses are in Mantle. Those in Atlas are entirely alone. In time, Oscar destroys the whale, but by then it’s too late. There’s no concrete way to theorize how many have died, but it’s inevitably a lot. Everyone else is scatted across the city, trying to survive. 
So this scene 
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When the group gets the Staff and creates portals for “everyone” to escape through, Mantle is ready to go. They’ve gotten everyone into the crater and can funnel them straight to Vacuo. Atlas, however, is in chaos. When Jaune enters the subway there’s only a few people there, many of which may be wounded or dying. He’s right back where he started, in Mantle at the beginning of Volume 8: needing to go door-to-door to find where people have hidden themselves, trying to convince them all to follow him (remember Oscar commenting to Ozpin about how difficult that was?). Except now, he and Nora are the only ones trying to get people to safey, the city is filled with far more grimm, a significant amount of time has passed for people to be killed or injured (making evacuating them even harder, both due to injuries and an unwillingness to leave hurt/dead/missing loved ones behind), he’s trying to convince these panicking people to go through magic portals, not just walk to a crater, and he’s aware that there’s a very short time limit for this task. 
Jaune returns in a panic of his own, explaining how difficult it will be to get that 2/3rds of the Kingdom to Vacuo. How many are already dead. Barricaded. Missing. Closeup on Ruby looking horrified, but then she rallies. They can do it. Atlas is falling, but residual dust gives them just enough time to find, calm, and evacuate those people. They’re heroes after all. Beating the odds is what they do. 
Then Cinder attacks. 
Suddenly, the group can’t evacuate people because they’re trying to keep themselves safe from her. Maybe Cinder gets the powers because Jaune was off looking for civilians, leaving Penny without a mercy kill. Maybe Nora dies because she’s still trying to help people on the city that plows into the one below. Regardless of how details might change, they’re not getting a spread out, decimated population through those portals before Cinder changes the wish and makes them disappear.  
In this version, the story starts with Ironwood wanting to sacrifice 1/3rd of the population to save 2/3rds and the future of the war. It ends with 2/3rds of the population dying instead. 
This is what I mean when I say the majority of the fandom wants to view a very complex situation through a ridiculously simple lens. The fandom wants to denounce every bit of RWBY’s fictionalized military, the context issues of that aside. The story wants to paint RWBYJNOR as the only heroes, in part because they succeeded in saving everyone (“everyone”) in the Kingdom when Ironwood gave up. 
But they only managed to save everyone because of Ironwood. Because he kept fighting for his people to the bitter end. This is why, though his horrific actions obviously exist in the story, they make no sense (he’ll threaten to kill his people so he can... save his people?) and mess up what little is working in the finale. The story wants us to celebrate the group for evacuating Mantle and Atlas, but the Atlas evacuation would not have happened if not for Ironwood’s actions  — the actions that are ignored in favor of having Winter blame him for everything and then killing him off. The rescue of “everyone” was very much a joint effort. RWBYJNOR’s win is not actually a contrast to Ironwood’s intended sacrifice, for the simple reason that their win depended entirely on Ironwood’s actions. 
If we’re going to celebrate the group getting everyone to safety, we should probably also celebrate the guy who got them all to an easy evacuation point and ensured they weren’t eaten before then. Does that mean Ironwood never did anything wrong? Of course not. As established, the story went out of its way to make him into a villain. Rather, it means that other parts of the story failed to maintain that black and white view, complicating the heroism of RWBYJNOR in the process. If we want Ironwood to be incapable of heroic action, always the bad guy, nothing good to say about him whatsoever... then we likewise need to accept that the group is rather unheroic in many regards too. That, on their own, they would have failed to save everyone, just as Ironwood’s plan failed to save everyone at the end of Volume 7. Because they chose their friend over a kingdom. Because they sat around in a mansion. Because by the time they took action again and tried to escape, without Ironwood’s help they would have lost a larger majority than they originally insisted be saved. 
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Holy hell, wtf did I miss?
Oh right, the Denver Con happened today. SIGH. I should have known.
I'm seeing all of these posts about anger at Jensen and "cancel Jensen" and all that nonsense. Look, man, I get it. What he said was not great but can we seriously slow our roll, take a second, and think about this logically?
#1) Dean has never given an extra glance at Claire or Krissy or Kaia or any other young girl in the series. Young women that he's encountered all throughout the series? Yes, he sure has. But young girls? No. Even right down to the girl that Lillith possesses in the final season, even though she had been trying to subtly work that angle.
#2) Let's think back to Jack's intro scene, the first time Dean ever saw him. Jack was completely nude and standing there with glowing yellow eyes. Jack was not Dean's son in that moment. He was not part of the family yet. He was a being that had just come into existence that Dean automatically sees as a threat and tries to shoot which he is then prevented from doing by Sam. Now, had Jack been a woman the same physical age as he is in this scene, it's quite possible that yeah, the show would have had Dean throw in an extra glance here (because let's face it, that's the show we watched for 15 years) but I tend to doubt it due to what was happening in the story at that time. Dean was hyper focused on handling the nephilim problem and even had Jack been a girl, I guarantee he still would have reacted the same way he did towards Jack after Cas' death and Mary's disappearance. We might not have gotten the great scenes of Jack trying to copy Dean (or maybe we would have, who knows?) but we would have still absolutely gotten John-Dean. Because ultimately, Dean blamed Jack for Cas' death and as Jensen himself has said before, Dean saw more of Lucifer in Jack at first and then eventually saw more of Cas in him. Tbf, I'm not inside Jensen's head, but I'm almost willing to bet that this particular scene is what he was thinking of when he made that statement.
#3) Was it an okay thing to say? No. But seriously, the man is on stage doing a live panel solo. We know he's not a fan of doing these things solo, and we also know he's mentioned previously that he has dealt with anxiety in the past. I guarantee he meant this as a joke and not as a stance on "my character would be a total creepy perv and I completely stan that, thanks guys, great question". I seriously doubt he wants Dean to be seen that way and I doubt even more that he meant for what he said to be taken at face value the way it has. Can I tell you how many times in my life I've said something in a conversation with people that I think is downright hilarious and have convinced myself 'oh this will knock them off their feet with laughter' only to find out that's not the case? That someone accidentally gets offended or it ends the conversation quickly? Or it comes out wrong, and not in the way I absolutely meant for it to come out but between my brain and my mouth it got jumbled up? Or came out way worse than I meant it to? It happens. And tbh, I can't imagine being in Jensen's shoes at these panels, or Misha's, or Jared's, or any of them. The whole idea makes my palms sweat and shivers run down my spine. So I know, that if I were them, I'd be saying so much worse shit and I would have been cancelled long ago, and in no way am I the type of monster these people are making Jensen (and Dean) out to be. Guaranteed, this is most likely a case of him saying something he thought would garner laughs and be entertaining. (have we forgotten the whole "titties" answer in a previous panel when he was asked what would happen if Dean woke up with the body of a woman? Or how about his sometimes problematic responses to conversations about Destiel and Dean's theorized sexuality in the past? The man is human, you guys, this shit happens, especially live, and he is not the only actor this has happened with)
#4) When these guys do these panels, let's remember they're being performative, meaning they are up there literally performing because people paid $ to see them live and ask questions (and also get photo ops). They are there to entertain. So when Misha appears to give Jensen a hug from behind, you're seeing their public personas interacting, not them, not how they would interact if they were alone without phone cameras aimed at them, being spread all over the internet within seconds, and where fans could overhear. It doesn't mean that Misha isn't a genuine person for example, or that you're not hearing Misha's true thoughts on Cas when he talks about him, but you're also seeing his public persona. Same goes for Jensen, Jared, AlCal, Jake, and all the rest. We do not know them personally. It doesn't matter if you've met them for a photo op or gotten their autograph as they stroll through the airport or follow their social media. We do not know them personally. We only see what they've chosen to show us (and most of it again is through their public personas: at cons, in interviews, in gag reels, in fan interactions, etc.). Didn't Misha himself even confirm once again today that there are things he's not supposed to talk about, meaning that once again allegedly rules are being strictly enforced on them? (and are we really surprised that there were barely any Destiel questions at Jensen's panel? The questions are being allegedly heavily monitored, correct? Come on now) Jensen does not appear to be someone (that we've seen thus far) who condones the type of creepiness that you're talking about. And if he truly believed that Dean would be the type of monster you're describing, I highly doubt he would be so protective of him or stan him the way he does, no matter how much of his time and energy he's invested into the role. Nor would he want to continue it or delve deeper into Dean's story (hypothetically through John and Mary and the prequel business).
My whole long point is let's just take a breath for a second and not immediately jump to "cancel! cancel!" or "next time you think about talking Jensen, die" (which is so fucking horrid and disgusting, I can't even begin to elaborate on what's wrong with someone who would post something that vile) or "he's a rich white man what do you expect?" and all kinds of the stupid shit I've seen clogging up the Jensen tag in the last couple of hours. Listen, you're certainly entitled to your opinion and you can hate him all you want. You can choose not to support him or watch any of his content or work that's coming out. That's your right. You can cry "cancel!" if you still want to but at least take some of this into consideration before jumping on the bandwagon to hate on the man and post horrid shit like above (though saying 'die' and 'kill him' is NEVER OKAY about him or anyone else and you need to STOP IMMEDIATELY). And I feel like this should go without saying but obviously it's not, but can you please keep your negativity to the anti Jensen tag then? Thanks. Have a great rest of your weekend.
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how high is the probability that soo-won is canonically gay? tbh it it would just make so much sense. soo-won loved yona but really he had eyes for hak since young... i just wish that in the eventual soohak reunion (kusa WHERE IS IT) that they'll acknowledge this fact somehow. that hak is still and forever will be soo-won's goal
Oh, anon, you have no idea how much feelings and ideas I have regarding SooHak, but when it comes to Soo Won’s sexuality, I am in the dark just as every other reader, because sadly we don’t have much insight/p.o.v. from Soo Won himself, and I think that’s on purpose and something Kusanagi is saving for later. However, he mentioned once that he didn’t feel love romantically, but he did like people, and Kusanagi also implied he wasn’t interested in romance during the high school omake, so there’s a chance he could maybe be asexual/aromantic? But he has blushed before whenever someone put him in the spot, like Yona in ch. 1, and when Lili threatened to say he was in a brothel, I think during Sei or Xing arc. So I think there’s a little bit of chance he could be, but the chances of him being asexual are definitely higher. But like you said, if Kusanagi decided to write in canon that Soo Won is gay period, it would also make sense, align with past moments that have made us raise our eyebrows, and it wouldn’t affect the story or his personality, except for other than giving us much needed insight on what goes inside Soo Won’s mind.
(I talk a lot about SooHak underneath, so I put it under a keep reading, lol).
It’s important to note that it’s very much canon that he still cares for/loves Hak and Yona, despite everything that’s happened. However, I do get the feeling that the love he has for Hak is slightly different from the love he has for Yona. It’s very interesting how since the start, Soo Won has kept his emotions in check around Yona and co., but like Zeno said, his face just looks more human around Hak. I guess maybe because Hak has always been the most normal part of it all for Soo Won, since they were kids, which is why I get the feeling that they were closer. They raised Gulfan together, they trusted each other more than anyone, and can read each other so well they were able to know what the other was thinking through a single look. The only time in the manga both of them were seen crying, truly crying over adult emotions, was because of each other. Soo Won wasn’t able to raise a sword to defend himself against Hak when they reunited in Nadai arc, but his hands automatically flew to his sword the moment he saw Hak in danger during the battle in Sei. It’s like a quote from a gifset I reblogged recently, “People change, but habits don’t”. Or even as Ik-Soo himself said, “some love cannot be discarded,” and I think that was as true for Yona then as it is for Soo Won and Hak. They both can try themselves their best to convince they no longer care for one another, and will be ok if the other dies, but we have seen that that’s not true.
Also it’s interesting, like you said, anon, sometimes I get the feeling that Hak is still Soo Won’s goal, but like in a dormant way. Soo Won seeks for the power of the humans, and nobody embodies that as much as Hak, in the story. We have seen since the start that Soo Won admired Hak, and wanted to be like him, so I feel like that feeling is still there. They both literally wanted to be on an equal footing just so they could walk side by side, and that is a powerful want, to have someone mean so much to you that you are motivated by them, which is why their dynamic is probably one of the most interesting for me, whether it’s platonic or romantic. But we shall see how it goes. Many fans have been theorizing that in the next chapter or 204, Soo Won might go to see Hak, and I think that’s something the story really needs right now. They have been avoiding each other for over 200 chapters now, and they’re getting to a point where they can no longer do that. I think Hak has come very far in the manga and is also in a point where he’s willing to listen to what Soo Won has to say; prior to this castle arc, people liked to say he was narrow-minded and refused to see meaning in Soo Won’s actions, but Hak only had the grasp of what he’d seen that night: that Soo Won killed Il and was willing to kill Yona as well, after presenting her with that hairpin. He had no idea about what happened to Yu-Hon, or any of what happened in the past, so from that point of view, Soo Won had usurped the throne and wanted to destroy the evidence of him (Yona seeing what happened). The fact that Soo Won also said “the Soo Won you knew never existed” definitely didn’t help Hak see his side, giving him the impression that their friendship had been a lie since the beginning. And thus, his heart shattered into a million pieces. And he had to live with that hurt and betrayal every day to himself, to the point where it was suffocating him and he broke down completely when he and Soo Won came face to face in Nadai. But like I said, he has come a long way since then, and now he has some idea of what happened and Soo Won’s real reasoning for killing Il, so their next conversation, which I pray happens soon, might come more easily, but that will also depend on what Soo Won will be willing to say. Let’s remind ourselves that Soo Won has expressed he is ready to live an unhappy life, and is not exactly desperate to explain himself to Yona and Hak nor ask for their forgiveness, even if his heart longs so much for his old friends. He’s that kind of character that doesn’t mind being seen as the bad guy so long as he can get the job done, which is one of the many layers of his character that we’ve seen over and over in the manga.
I am sorry this answer was so long, but like I said, I have a lot of feelings regarding SooHak and I really need them to talk it out soon. I’m sorry if something I expressed about Soo Won is not to your liking or to anyone else’s, but this is my point of view from what I could get from the manga. SooHak is the kind of relationship that works just as well for whatever it’s meant to be, but I have a feeling Kusanagi will leave us in the dark about that one and let us believe it is what we wanna believe it is. At first I was 50/50 about Soo Won dying, I still think it’s a possibility, but now it’s no longer one I necessarily would like to see happen. I want him to make things right with Yona and Hak before the manga ends, and beat this crimson illness. I think a fresh start is something he definitely needs for himself, he was robbed of his childhood when he was only 9 and was pushed into a role he didn’t exactly want, so I would like to see him come to terms with that and close that page, and begin living the life he wanted to live before all this.
Tl;dr; I think Soo Won might be asexual, but his feelings for Hak are definitely still an important part of his character arc that I believe we will see more of. But how Kusanagi will go about them, we can only wonder. Thank you so much for the ask, I really needed to let this all out lmao, and for anyone who disagrees with what I said, please just do me a favor and ignore this post because I really don’t wish to be part of discourse. Soo Won is a character that’s hard to read, and maybe my view of who he is can be different from someone else’s, so let’s be grown ups about it and just respect each other’s opinions and agree to disagree.
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Chain of Iron theories: Who is the Killer
Its coming up on a week since last made a COI theory post. I said that I was going to try to post all my theories on COI BEFORE it comes out next month, so this posed a problem. So mow I am going to give my input on one of the biggest Mystery’s for COI, Who is the Killer? So in COI Belial will have a new minion who will target the shadowhunters, manages to kill 5 of them (same number Tatiana needed for the ritual) and is difficult for them to apprehend because they are somehow able to disappear. CC has left some hints that the killer is actually another Shadowhunter that Belial has somehow managed taken Possession of, despite protection rituals that should have been placed on this individual at birth ( My theory on that is that since this book is called “Chain of Iron” we will learn that Belial controls all his pawns with “chains of iron”. All hidden on their persons and glamored to look like ordinary accessories.) Our synapse for the book says that James Herondale has been having strange nightmares and fears he may actually be the killer. In COI he will start to tie himself up to sleep at night. We all know its not James right? In mysteries like this you always throw out your first guess/ the obvious guess. I have seen a lot of posts theorizing on who the true identity could be. I have seen some theories do not make much sense to me and some that were really good.
One theory that seems off to me is the idea that the killer is actually multiple killers, more specifically a collection of the survivors of Belial’s illness. If you support this theory I get your reasoning:Belial was able to briefly posses these people before, and the illness may have left biological changes in them. But here’s where I am confused, the killer is implied to be a massive threat wielding enhanced dark magic. At the end of COA there are 30something cured shadowhunters released from Silent City. CC says that the killers body count will be 5. If Belial has 30something new pawns that he can posses, gift his terrible powers to, and send out to prey on shadowhunters, I feel like there should be a lot more than 5 victims. I know Beial is not yet at full strength from battling Cortana, but he should at least be stronger than that. I have also heard theories that it is one of the Blackthorns. This also does not make much sense to me, given that for one thing none of them have training, Tatiana and Grace already have established rolls in Belial’s plans, and while I know Jesse is a part of Belial’s plan I believe his part will be save for COT after he has been resurrected. IF Belial were using Jesse’s empty body to walk the earth, then wouldn’t he also need to stop anyone from trying to resurrect Jesse?
 I have heard many theories on Elias Carstairs being the killer. Many of them just want to make Elias out to be CC’s newest and most horrible monster parent, and absolve Alastair of any responsibility or need to apologize for the cruelty he has shown to our mains. If this is your reasoning for believing Elias is the killer than let me stop you right there. CC has written multiple series and her skills have evolved beyond the need to rely on such easy black and white tricks. But I also saw some people posting about how Elias goes home so late and stopped writing to his family. Some are theorizing that the real Elias Carstairs was intercepted and killed on his way back home and that the being that arrives in COI is actually an eidolon demon pretending to be Elias. This theory is AMAZING. It makes a lot of scenes, would give Belial another spy in a key place, and could potentially explain why Cortana starts acting so weird. I love this theory I do. I am just putting it t the side right now because I need the real Elias alive for other Carstairs family theories, and again have been working with the theory that the killer is a real shadowhunter whom Belial is controlling with another “chain of iron”. My theories are below.
1.) Lucie Herondale is the Killer
 I am working with he theory that all Belial’s pawns have “chains of Iron” on them, which means all three blackthorns have them. In old art CC released of Grace she is seen wearing a pearl necklace that I was convinced had to be her’s. Tatiana’s (who probably consented to wearing hers) could be anything, maybe that stupid, creepy bird, she wears in her hat. Jesse... is mentioned several times to wear a locket.... that we know is connected to Belial.... and was weakened when he took it off to give to Lucie... who is wearing it now. Do you people see where I am going with this? It can also be noted that one of the parts of Lucie’s arc is that she is frequently overlooked in favor of James and how that is a mistake on peoples parts.  Everybody knows that James has powers, he has had 4-5 years of people helping him figure out what they are and how to control them. Nobody but ghosts know that Lucie has powers, she has no training, and is only starting to understand what they mean. James is vulnerable but so is Lucie. I do not want her to be the killer. Lucie is such a fun character, and I was so happy to finally have a female Herondale play a role that was close in size to her male relative’s. I truly feel that Lucie deserves better than to be just a tragic character in the story. I want her to be that plus a hero, but I cannot deny that she is a possibility.
2.) Charles Fairchild is the Killer
I have seen Charles name appear on multiple lists of theory’s on the killer’s identity. People never really give reasons as to why they believe he is the killer. They are just mad at him for choosing to put his career higher on his list of priorities than his relationship with Alastair, or him being the killer would hurt less because he is not written to be a fan favorite. If you are someone who wants the killer to be Charles, but are unsure how likely it is your in luck. Because I can give you a whole list of reasons it is likely
Charles is already acting strange. We know he made some kinda screw up in Paris and had to come home. Apparently Charlotte is sending Tessa and Will to Paris to Start the fix up and Charles will go back afterwards. Well based on what we have gotten on Charles making a mistake like that is unlike him. Casting Long Shadow’s reveals that Charles has been working as a politician since he was 13 and is normally known for being very dependable and reliable. That’s part of the reason he is considered such a shoe-in for Counselor once his mother retires.??? I have theories on Charles mental state (which I will address in a later theory post that will be centered around the Fairchild’s) and do consider the possibility that he was sett off by fear over the outbreak or grief over losing Alastair... But this sudden change could be from other things as well
As of COG2 Charles is engaged to Grace Blackthorn, who controls him like a puppet. Grace herself is the puppet of Tatiana Blackthorn, who is the puppet of Belial. So Charles is now part of a very dangerous carnival. Charles decade of study and knowledge of clave politics at the top could be very useful to Belial in taking them down. Also previous short stories say that Charles spends most of his time in Idris for work and when in London usually stays at home going through law books and records. So I could easily believe he does not completely  know his way around London and (like the killer is hinted to) would need to use a map to get around.
Now on to my biggest reason for theorizing Charles for the killer. Charles and Matthew’s relationship with each other. Charles and Matthew do not get along, like at all. They did once, but that was a real long time ago. A lot of the reasons they don’t get along is dumb sibling stuff: Charles calling Matthew an immature child, kicking him and his friends out of rooms in their house, and lording his increased age over Matthew. Matthew making more noise to annoy Charles, telling everyone Charles embarrassing middle name, and regularly sneaking into Charles room to steal his cologne instead of just buying his own. We are not hear to discuss any of that. All of that has me laughing because it is peak sibling rivalry. Rivalry aside Charles and Matthew model  the old dynasty trope for Ssons with Charles being “the Heir” and Matthew being “the Spare”. The Heir’s life is decided for them as soon as they are born, they will succeed their parent and continue their legacy. The Spare is just that, a back up plan kept around should the heir die, become disabled, never marry, or turn out to be infertile (happens way more than people like to think about). Charles struggles with the weight of his parents expectations. Matthew is more or less the Black sheep of his family, living his life day by day with no grand plan. Because of this he is cut off from them in a way, and goes through a lot of loneliness and isolation in his own house. Neither brother see’s the others hard time; the other has what they themselves want: Charles has attention, Matthew freedom, so they wrongly assume the other must be doing fine. This is a lot like Matthew and James relationship in Dust and Shadows. Matthew and James talked things over with each other and were good after. Matthew and Charles stay apart and ignore each other when they cannot. They will not just talk and be good after. So maybe if put on different sides they will fight out their issues with each other? On the subject of Matthew having to fight Charles, lets say hypothetically Charles is the killer and is possessed. We know from previous books that clave protocol is to place a kill order on possessed members. If that becomes the case do you think Matthew would be able to follow through with those orders? Be able to hunt, fight, and kill his older brother? No. No matter how rough their relationship I doubt Matthew would ever be able to do that. It would be to much for him, to similar to his “sin”. He would want to catch Charles, then try to find a way to free him from possession. Maybe if Mathew could successfully accomplish this then maybe he could forgive himself for his “sin”. If Matthew tries to save him and fails than at least this time other people would know and could potentially get him some help.  
3.) Filomena DI Angelo is the Killer.
Ahh our upcoming new arrival from  Italy. Why are you coming to London girl? Haven’t you heard about all the crazy things that happens there last fall? What possible role could you play in the story that couldn’t be filled by one of our many already existing characters from COG2? (Do you even know your way around?) How suspicious that Filomena should show up around the same time as this killer? Wouldn’t it be great for the story if the killer came from a different country? Wouldn’t that do wonders for showing how powerful a threat Belial is? His dark influence stretching across country lines, maybe even across oceans! We have already been told that TLH characters will need to travel to other countries. How the villain is less one person and more a force. Filomena could start that. She could provide reason to search countries besides London for Belial’s influence. Proof of it being so wide spread would definitely make Belial feel more like a force. Oh but wait, cheesecake wait. Filomena cannot be the killer! That would make her evil, and CC said she was a nice girl! Oh I am sure Filomena is a nice girl, but people tend to change when under demon control. But she is a girl and the killer is hinted to be a male shadow hunter! Are we sure the killer isn’t presented as male because Belial is presented as male? Is it impossible that while on the hunt as the killer Filomena DI Angelo dress in men’s cloths in order to more safely move through the streets? I feel like we have saw that trick once before in TID.
All we really know about Filomena is that she came to London, will interact with some of our established characters, and she will get a crush on someone we know, thus presenting herself as a possible love interest. Matthew was my first guess, hey he was every bodies first guess. CC shut that down, Filomena is not being brought in to fix the love triangle between James, Cordeila, and Matthew. Matthew is one of the only ones to not have at a least semi-confirmed endgame ship. So this means that Filomena will probably not be endgame with her crush. Why?   My next guess was her crush was on Anna. Ariadne is shown to be relentless in her attempts to “win Anna back” and Anna is not having it. Tweets time and time again depict her basically telling Ariadne “Its not going to happen. Give up and leave me alone”, but falling on deaf ears. So maybe Anna will try to get a new girlfriends and keep her around until she is ready to forgive/ go back to Ariadne. Well Anna is more a secondary character, a loving big sister figure to our mains. She gets less page time because of this. We already know she will spend time with Cordelia, Lucie, Ariadne, Eugenia, Thomas... not much page time left for Filomena. After further analyses I have theorized that Filomena must have a crush on Thomas.
A quick google search on the name Filomena shows that it is an Italian name that means “loving friend” “strong friend” and “lover of music” all these sound kinda like Thomas. (Filomena is also the name of a character in the 14th century Italian collection  of short stories called the Decameron, who liked to make stories up about plagues... or so some digging around google told me ). This could fit quite nicely into Thomas’s story. First of all to everybody who has been calling Thomas “gay” please wait a moment to be sure. Thomas does not yet publicly or self identify as gay. He clearly has an attraction to one man, but CC says that he has not yet realized his sexuality and will spend TLH figuring out. He might be gay, but he could just as easily turn out to be bi or pan. For the sake of this theory lets assume Thomas is Bi. Thomstair is definitely endgame. We know Alastair is gay, and CC usually likes to pair gay characters up with bi characters in queer ships, see Malec and Heline. Should Thomas be bi, should he start to become close and develop feelings for Filomena, it will have to go wrong. More wrong than he considers his feelings for Alastair at the end of COG2 (Filomena do not hurt this boy, he has been through enough). We got a tweet that suggests Thomas is interested in the killer, and a hint that he is planing something big. We got a kinda frightening picture that suggests the Killer may be very interested in Thomas.
If Lucie is the killer she will somehow be freed from Belial’s control,. I can 100% guarantee it, Charles I feel will have a 50/50 chance, Filomena will die from it. It would be a herculean task to free her, and she is not important enough to the mains for them to actively try and do anything more than give her a merciful death. Should she and Thomas become close than it will break his heart. But if Alastair is there for him afterwards, able to emphasizes and offer him comfort that will go along way to redeeming Alastair to Thomas. The whole experience could be love is hard, both men and women have the ability to hurt you. but the right person will make it up to you and it is good to forgive them when they do. I personally think that would be a pretty cool direction for Thomas’s arc to take.
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maggie anthonycrowley please dear god please tinhat about the beer this is so funny and you are the resident expert in beer so i very much would love your take
WILD that i apparently AM the resident (american) craft beer expert. alright, but don’t get mad at me about it. you asked. so here is my ‘more info on jackles’ brewery than you probably want’ info, all aggregated into one convenient post
before we get to my opinion on this whole thing, a few disclaimers: 1. i do not, nor have i ever, worked at a brewery, so the actual manufacturing process information is all either speculation based on what i do know or second hand information. 2. i have not tried fbbc’s beer. i would absolutely love to and do a full unbiased review (people in austin hmu), but craft beer in the us is EXTREMELY regional due to both how craft breweries operate (many don’t distribute at all, and those that do, unless they’re quite large, only distribute to a set amount of states), and because i live in mass and you can’t get it outside of texas, i’m stuck in a bit of a lurch. so anything i say about the actual beer will be based off of my impression of the description/facts and reviews i can find from various beer rating websites. but i do know about the general craft beer culture in the states, which is why i still feel comfortable talking about this.
let’s quickly go back to when people were theorizing about eyes in the sky, because that was one of the single most amusing nights of my life, and the main actually-valid argument is related to the theories surrounding this drop. so! let’s go over the extremely hilarious arguments people were touting first, particularly the ones not relevant here, i just think it’s fun to look back on them.
so my personal favorite is ‘well the beer’s orange.’ because. a lot of beer is orange. i’d say the main three colors beer is is either a shade of brown, a shade of yellow, or a shade of orange. you can find beers in other colors, but those are the ones just like, statistically, you’re gonna see a lot. most hazy ipas are vaguely orange. like, almost all of them. i am drinking one Literally right now and it’s also orange. neipas tend to be orange. i PROMISE it’s not that deep. this is all i have to say on the subject and also it’s not relevant to this drop, i just absolutely adore this tinhatting because it’s adorable how little you all know. i say this with love. next.
not related directly to either of the beer drops we’re discussing but: ‘there’s a beer there called helles, which sounds like hell’ y. yes there is. but i am asking you to like. okay. experiment. go into google right now and search ‘breweries near me’ and just. look at the beer listings from the top. i don’t know, let me be safe. ten breweries that show up. i guarantee at least one is going to have a helles. probably more than one. it’s an incredibly common style. not an incredibly TRENDY style, but it’s one of the more common lager styles, and people like them. again, i Promise him making one isn’t that deep. it’s not a fucking altbier or something. next.
now onto rehashed arguments, and i’m going to discuss the stupid one first. ‘the description says fruity’ this one is also being brought up with this drop and it never fails to make me lose it. fruity is an INCREDIBLY common way of describing beer. other common words include things like malty, dank, bready, etc. it’s going to depend on the style, but for ipas in particular, especially american style/east coast, are almost always described as tasting like fruit or tasting like a SPECIFIC fruit (west coast tends to be more dank tasting. think weed rather than an orange smoothie. this sounds mean, but i have literally drank west coast ipas that smell and taste like literal marijuana. so). and like, okay, MAYBE i’d be willing to be like ‘hm curious that he released two ipas, the frutiest style’ (this is a joke because ipas are not the frutiest style. very funny trust me) but what you have to understand about that is like, ipas are EVERYWHERE. they’re insanely trendy and have been for the better part of, i don’t know, five years? if anything, i’m surprised there’s not MORE of his beer that’s ipas. i know of places where that’s like, all they make. anyway. next.
AND FINALLY the actual argument i can maaaaybe get behind because i can’t immediately dispute it. the actual naming of the beer. ‘well what does the name MEAN then???’ the problem is, in both of these cases, i have NO idea. but, and i implied this earlier - i have no idea if he’s even naming the beer. i don’t actually think it’s standard from brewery to brewery, so unless jackles has specifically said he names all of them we can’t assume he does. like, think about it this way. large breweries like, for example, budweiser, a marketing department probably names them. getting to craft, it probably depends on how hands on the owner is. they MIGHT name all of them, it might be a joint effort, they may just sign off on whatever the brewmaster calls it (and, btw, jackles Absolutely is not making the beer. he might know the process and maybe help out, and he’s probably tasting them before they go to market, but i’m not super convinced he’s any more involved in the actual manufacturing process, as evidenced by the fact that someone else is head brewmaster. think like, producer vs writer. just something to think about in future). and like, i can’t shoot this argument down, necessarily, because he MIGHT be naming them and calling the products these names for a specific reason, but we don’t know unless they tell us. like, okay, comparison time again, there’s a popular beer from maine brewing called ‘lunch,’ and they say on the side of the bottle that it’s named after a shark that’s been spotted off the maine coast with a part of her fin bitten off, and that’s why they named the beer that. but like, i wouldn’t know that unless this place told me. there’s about a billion reasons why these beers may have had these names chosen for them, exacerbated by the fact that we don’t even know if jackles, or even daneel, had a large part in the naming process. (also, calling ipas with rainbow-y names isn’t even that uncommon. here’s an example of one i’ve actually had within the past like, two months. it actually kind of sounds similar to the beer drop fbbc had. i’m not saying the name ISN’T relevant but i mean, i’m just saying)
ANYWAY tldr of that is ‘as a beer snob i am unconvinced by almost all of your arguments but i’m really sorry about it because you people are fun’
also, because it’s my blog and i can talk about this, my actual impression of the brewery itself is this. it looks like a pretty standard brewery making pretty solid beer. i mean, based on reviews and such i doubt it’d be my favorite beer i’ve ever had, but i’m from an area where i’m spoiled for choice. i’d honestly love to try it, just to see if they’re riding off the fact that the owner’s famous or if the beer can actually stand on its own. hell, i saw a few beers on their website that i’d love to try. so like, if you see me ragging on it or seeming to rag on it in the future i’m doing it both from a place of love and from a place of i have no idea what it’s actually like. anyway
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