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blurbour · 2 years

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Ok, I have some thoughts on Viktor and his lore (in Arcane and his "original" lore). I don't like how things are going in the series (I'm afraid they frame Viktor as a villain) and I wanted to talk to someone abt it so here it goes.

Arcane spoilers ahead!!

Before anything, it's important to state that I'm not gonna complain saying "aw they changed his original lore" and bla bla bla. No, I'm here bc after reading his original lore I'm afraid that his lore in Arcane goes in a different direction and end up making him be seen and be framed as a villain in Act 3.

In my humble opinion I think Arcane should have brought more details from his original lore bc watching it I felt everything that the person in this post said about Viktor and I think it would connect perfectly with lore-Viktor and vice versa and it would help build up his character better (not making me or anybody else feel like he can be portrayed as a villain but I'll talk about it later).

First appearance (episode 2)

So, ever since episode 2 when we see Viktor in Jayce's trial it seems like he might be up to something bad (not bc of his character itself but bc of his interactions, expressions, placements, etc).

The first moment in Jayce's trial his character is shadowed right after Jayce passes him but he's in evidence, why? Most importantly, what for? What is he seeking in Jayce? It's just too ominous.

Seconds later the trial begins and Jayce ends up being pushed to speak that he's studying magic and this intrigues Viktor.

And the moment Jayce says that magic can be used for good would be a great moment to cut to Viktor but it cuts to him after Jayce says "We're the champions of discovery. Why fear it when we can master it?" and Viktor looks like he's thinking "He understands it. We're on the same page."

Like, I understand they had to let Jayce speak all of this 'til the end for Heimerdinger to shut him up but depending on how the audience perceives Viktor people can understand that he wants the power of magic to do harm and not actually help people (that IS his goal in his original lore but with this it ends up being ambiguous and can lead people to think that he only says he wants to help people to cover a bad intention). But anyway, let's continue.

When Viktor comes back again he's with Heimerdinger locking Jayce's stuff and Heimer says leaving the room (as Viktor takes Jayce's notes):

Once again it leads you to think that Viktor is up to something.

It kills me bc his first impressions are "he's a bad guy, he'll do something bad at some point".

Plus, right after this the scene cuts to Silco and Singed who as far as I'm aware (I never played LoL, I only read his biography and saw some coments abt him here) is not a good person.

But then, we have THIS sequence:

Which shows that he's actually really empathetic but depending on how you see him it can lead you to think that he's only saving Jayce's life for his own benefit.

Our Hextech dream (episode 3)

Now going to the gayest episode featuring them both (bc we gotta agree that they have A LOT of chemestry, I understand if you only see them as study pals tho).

Their first sequence in the episode is in Jayce's lab where they're talking abt the Hextech and Jayce asks Viktor why he's risking all he has to help him and Viktor answers "Do you think it was my life's ambition to be an assistant? Scientists seek discoveries. Ways to make the world a better place. This Hextech dream of yours has the potential to do that." And then:

Once again we stumble across something that (depending on the audience's perception) makes Viktor ends up sounding egotistical and using "make the world a better place" as an excuse.

(From now on I'll stop using images bc I'm almost reaching the limit allowed and I need to have one more spare space.)

After it we have them breaking in Heimerdinger's lab and floating (honestly, the happiest scene in all the series so far ;;). All nice, all good, seems like Viktor isn't such a bad person after all, right?

Open the gates of progress (episode 4)

Ok, some years have passed and we're now seeing a new Piltover (Hexgates and all that). Our boys are back with new inventions with their Hextech and even got Hextech gemstones.

Heimerdinger comes to their lab to see what new things they got and after their presentation he says that in a decade they'll be able to be fully ready. But this worries Viktor that replies "A decade? With respect, Professor. We can be improving lives with Hextech NOW." Heimer then points "A breakthrough like this takes time, Viktor. Putting that kind of power into everyone's hands is dangerous. Keep at it and I'm sure you will discover a way to safeguard Hextech against misuse." but Viktor doens't even have the chance to talk further abt it but his expression shows how frustrated he is (y'know the man is dying, he wants to help people and doesn't even know if he'll have enough time to achieve this goal of his, it's understandable where he's coming from).

Btw I'll comment on that later too, bc I don't like the idea of him getting sick and probably dying soon.

But I need to talk abt Jayce for a minute. He was chosen to do the speech on Progress Day, during this whole episode there's focus on him. In the beginning he invited Heimerdinger to the lab, he was the one invited to Mel's event, he was responsible for the speech. Even on the next episodes he's the one who's earning the place in the concil, the girl, etc (while Viktor's decaying and losing everything).

And it's interesting how we can understand that he's ego is increasing. The scene right before his speech he drinks from his own mug and even "crushes" Viktor when putting it back on the table.

An interesting detail I kept paying attention was that Viktor always stays in the shadows while the light always follows Jayce (remember his trial and now again at the speech).

Another detail I noticed during this episode is that Jayce is always controlling the situation. From a simple action of stopping Viktor (when he's going after Heimerdinger to continue talking when they finish their presentation) to changing the plans right on stage now allowing Viktor to show their work. Even when the Council was talking abt the Hextech gemstones he did the same things, stopped Viktor from standing up and without asking/checking with him told that he would suspend all Hextech operations.

Here, the last time Viktor's expressions are shown is after Jayce says that they'd suspend everything including the laboratories. After that Jayce is the only one adressed as a scientist, everybody in the Council consider Hextech only HIS work and he doesn't even include Viktor. (what happened to OUR Hextech dream, huh?)

And we don't see them again, only Jayce when he talks to Caitlyn already as a councilor.

Shaping your own destiny (episode 5)

Many people have mixed feelings abt this episode when it comes to our science boys but I think this is the one that is mostly full of important details and parallels and I really like it for that!

In their first part of this episode Jayce is talking about his councilor stuff to Viktor as he replies that that talk is a poor use of their time and asks "What about our pledge to save lives, for those in need? For the undercity?". Jayce then apologizes for not announcing their other projects in his speech and says that soon they could do what they had to but Viktor interrupts him saying "Soon? There are people who need our help NOW, Jayce." But there's no chance to continue talking bc Marcus arrives and Viktor leaves right after coughing blood and having a "vision".

WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO YOU MY BABY BOY???

When they appear again Jayce is looking at himself in the mirror while talking to Viktor who's working on the Hexcore. The problem in this scene (imo) is that Viktor seems to be now obsessed with the Hextech in a way he never was before (at least for us that are watching) and he seems... different.

After that we have Jayce diving deeper in politics and being heterosexual while Viktor is working (and eventually fainting). But the parallel between Jayce + Mel and Viktor + Hexcore through their sequences (althought for many it was painful and unbelievable to watch) was really interesting and here are some of my notes:

The whole sequence (especially Jayce's part alone) we see that Jayce is achieving things. He's become councilor, he's now involved in politics, he got the girl, basically everything is going well for him. While Viktor is not being able to discover or solve the problems he wants to solve. He's efforts were put aside, he can't put the Hexcore to work, and he's also DYING.

The transition back and forth between Jayce + Mel and Viktor + Hexcore was very well thought! Jayce and Mel are becoming one as well as Viktor and the Hexcore. The use of the color purple is also really good as it represents luxury but at the same time alchemy, power and magic.

The transition from Mel alone in her bed to Viktor in the hospital bed was also interesting as both are very active in Jayce's life. But in the end he chose to be with his dying science partner.

And now we have the most important detail of them all that was the main reason why I thought they could make Viktor be painted as a villain:

These tarot cards (Death and the Magician). They appear right after Viktor asks to Jayce "How much time do I have?" and respectively mean letting something die for new beginnings to come and having the resouces to start these new beginnings. The positive aspects of the Magician work very well with his original lore (bc it talks abt using your skills for good and achieving things you daydream abt) but the negative aspects of this card are:

Illness;

Infidelity;

A great loss;

The use of your skills and talents for evil.

My fear is that they use all of these ambiguous hints and the negative aspects of the Magician (that has Viktor's illustration in it) to portrait him as a villain (I'll finish to talk abt episode 6 and then I come back to this).

Uncharted waters (episode 6)

I think we can all agree this episode speaks mostly abt Viktor when either him or Jayce have a scene. Before the opening there's a flashback from Viktor's childhood (where he partnered up with Singed*), then we have Jayce talking abt Viktor's conditions to Mel, back again to Viktor but he's with the Hexcore, both together working with the Hexcore and last but not least Viktor meeting Singed again after so long.

*Remember I mentioned him earlier? Yeah, it was bc of this episode.

Let's go from the beginning then. The episode starts a flashback of Viktor's childhood as a lonely boy testing his invention and ending up meeting a strange man who's taking care of a mutation called Rio. He offers him self to be an assistant to take care of her (and we further know that when he discovers the state Rio is he ends up running away end not coming back). After it the scene cuts to older Viktor sitting where (according to Heimerdinger) he used to sit as a young scholar.

Then we see Mel and Jayce. Jayce going after her to apologize for disappearing and tell that Viktor's dying. He tells that it might have something to do with the place Viktor grew up in and that this was one of the things they wanted to fix with Hextech. Improve lives, solve real issues. They talk a little and Mel suggests that he should stay with Viktor.

Personally I hated this scene bc if someone had to talk abt Viktor's past (and also motivations) it was Viktor, not him. But anyway, I'll come back to this later as well.

The interesting thing in this scene tho is that right when Jayce says "It's a beautiful painting" as we see him and Mel almost as they were inside this bright painting it cuts to Viktor as he was sitting inside the Hexcore but here in a dark enviroment. (Once again having a parallel between them, now with brightness and darkness.)

The next time we see them, Jayce and Viktor are together in their lab. Viktor is showing Jayce that the Hexcore responds to organic matter and says "This is unlike anything we've ever seen, Jayce. It could be the key to augmenting physiology, extending life..." and Jayce complements "Curing you." [Plant dies]

I'm not gonna lie that I had a little laugh when I first watched this scene.

The dialogue continues a little longer with Viktor telling there might not have enought time to make the Hexcore work with organic matter and Jayce says they'll gonna ask Heimerdinger for help.

When they come back to the screen again Heimer is with them as they show him the Hexcore. He says that they must destroy it but Jayce replies saying it could save Viktor's life. Then Heimer says "Viktor, something's different. You've changed. What did you do?"

Note: everytime someone mentions saving Viktor's life with the Hexcore it's always Jayce but I never understood why Viktor never said that they'd first use it to help other people first. It implies that "yes, Viktor wants to use the Hexcore to cure himself and maybe then help people" and I don't like it.

Jayce and Heimer then discuss and after Heimer leaves Viktor says "I might know someone else who could help."

The last time Viktor appears in the episode (and before Act 3) is when he goes after Singed and only says "I understand now". And it ends there the sequence of science pals.

Personal comments

Let's go now through my thoughts and opinions abt everything I wrote here. So, back again to what I said in the beginning of this post: I believe Arcane-Viktor and lore-Viktor would be complementary to one another and if they had used more of his original lore he'd probably be seen more as a good character.

"But why that?" you might ask. Bc in his original lore he really wanted to help people. While living in Zaun he did reseaches and offered himself to help places reduce their number of accidents. As you read it you can see that his heart is in a good place (although he might seem a little radical).

If they told this abt his character in Arcane it'd support his argument of saying that he wanted to use Hextech to make the world a better place and help people (like, we only come to know what problems they wanna fix in episode 6 and Jayce is the one that talks abt it, before that we only have Viktor's words and only after having hits that he might actually be a bad person). They should have let Viktor talk abt his past, show what he's been through, not Jayce.

And let's mention Viktor getting SICK and DYING?? Plus being left behind by his fellow partner and the shit coming down for him in a way that he even went after Singed?? These two things can make such a fucking mess... Like, what if they make Viktor use Hextech only for his own benefit? And the writers can use the fact that he's dying to justify his Glorious Evolution (that didn't come from his experiences but seeing other people's), all that just sounds so... terrible. If anybody is to be selfish and egotistic that person is Jayce (his original lore even shows this side of his), Viktor always tried to help others (he even used himself as the first "prototype" for his Glorious Evolution). I stg I'll get really pissed if they paint Viktor as a villain.

Well, these are my thoughts, Idk what to expect but I'm really afraid of what's gonna happen in Act 3. I want them to end the series in a very tightened but the future is unknown, I can only hope for the best.

Please share your thoughts, I'll love to read them! <3

TL;DR: some of my thoughts on Viktor's scenes that people might perceive him as a bad person and how writers could have used this to paint him as a villain. (+ how I feel abt all that)

#arcane spoilers #viktor #viktor arcane #viktor the machine herald #arcane #league of legends #jayce #jayce talis #jayce arcane

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literali1110 · 3 years

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Thanks @poppypickle for the tag! Started a new post because the other threads were getting long, hope that's ok!

Name or preferred nickname: Li (nickname just because my real name is pretty rare)

Pronouns: she/her

What's the story behind your username: some weird combination of my name and the word Literally 😅 I actually wanted it to sound more like Literary because I made it up before posting my first fic but literali fit better with my name. Sometimes I wish I could change it but...it's probably too late now! 1110 is my bday :)

General location: Eastern hemisphere. How's that for general? ;P

Tell us something cool about you in real life: my background is in science and I'm starting a new job soon I'm pretty excited about working on developing a gene therapy drug!

Favorite Chenford moment: this is hard but I think I'm going to be cliche and say the moment he saves her in 2x11 just because of how he's holding on to her for dear life. And just the whole arc of him feeling responsible for what happened to her - GOLD.

Here are some of my first thoughts I shared on a chat after I saw that episode:

"OMG the rookie 2x11 WOW I already knew what the storyline was but to actually see it - the way they had no music at the end/just lucy singing 🥺

And then TIM was the one who found her and got her out and preformered CPR including MOUTH TO MOUTH (which I'm pretty sure you're not really supposed to do anymore so that was totally for the drama/fans) and then she was sobbing and he HELD HER, I wish could hear what he was saying to her there, and the he stayed by her bed the WHOLE night 😍😍😍 "

Moment that made you start shipping them: I started watching already knowing about the ship and I binged the show in about a week (thru 3x04 I think) but I don't think I really saw them with potential to be a couple (at least not at that moment in time) in the very beginning - Tim was, well, an ass, for a while. But then Lucy stood up to him with Isabel and I think 1x20 is when I really felt more strongly about them as a couple. In S2 their relationship definitely felt like it was in a new place and let's talk about 2x03 THE BET because that, I feel, is a HUGE sign from the writers that Chenford was going to be a thing. The looks she gives him in the episode? Please.

And then came 2x11 and you already saw my thoughts on that above and I think by then I was fully on board the Chenford train! And of course reading all the great fic about them just made me love them and want them together even more!

Who you think will realize they have FEELINGS first:

I think I agree with what I've seen a lot of people say - that Tim will realize first (maybe when Lucy goes UC?) But he'll wait for Lucy to make the first move. And after her "confession" she seems pretty unaware of her feelings so we'll see when that happens...

Favorite character who isn’t Lucy or Tim:

Jackson or Angela.

But also Nyla!

And Kojo ❤️

Favorite Chenford headcanon:

I love that everyone decided they're going to have a daughter. I love that they have a dog together - I'm not sure if they're at the place where they take hikes together just yet but I'm sure Lucy dogsits sometimes and begs Tim for pictures.

They're gonna be surrogate parents to Tamara for the rest of her life.

They're gonna be aunt and uncle to angel and Wesley's kids and vice versa.

And they're never gonna stop trying to one up eachother, always challenging one another and setting up little pranks!

Do you write fics/make gifs/make vids/do something else cool? You’re awesome! Share your stuff:

I do have a few Chenford fics - I'm LiteraLi on AO3. I also have a few more ideas I'm working on, although I'm a slow writer and a procrastinator but I don't think you've seen the last of me yet!

Fic you’re rec’ing the most right now:

At the top, I gotta rec anything by @fromiftowhen and @universallongings . Then, anything by @farfarawaygirl @firstdegreefangirl @crose84 @toews-a-peek @jakelovesamy @asroarke and @poppypickle .

Special shout out to Beach Relaxation (A Guided Meditation by Tim Bradford) that @crose84 wrote in response to a promt for me - you must check it out, it's the sweetest thing ever!

But seriously there is sooooo much good fic out there and I'm sorry if I didn't mention anyone by name - just scroll through the chenford tag on AO3 and you'll be sure to find some amazing fic!!

Tag another Chenford fan to fill this out: @lupin72 who gets allllll the credit for introducing me to this ship!

And anyone who wants to do it!!

#chenford #the rookie #getting to know the fandom #this got long #thanks for reading #now its your turn!

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lefthandsuzukimethod · 3 years

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tag people you want to get to know better

tagged by @captain-apostrophe! <3

tagging (but only if you want to): @vexingcosmos, @spectralprongs, @brehaaorgana , @grandsairs, @christinismithe, @serendipitysunnyflower and anyone else who wants to do it!! <33

your name and then what you would have named yourself: ana! i am good with my name tbh idk that i'd change it

astrological sign (sun/moon/rising if you know them): libra/leo/capricorn

when did you join tumblr and why?: i just checked and i have been a part of this hellsite since feb 2009 fladkfmaf i remember there was like a week that almost all of ontd_ffa joined @ once because one of us was like HEY THERES A COOL NEW SITE and i'm still here lmao

top 5 fandoms: like active fandoms or just Things I Like? obv rn like… mdzs/the untamed lmao, but also bnha and ffxv pero like in tiny circles??? idk fandom for me is better when u curate your experience, also yk when people are like hey what do u want for christmas and your brain decides it suddenly doesn't know anything? that's what my brain is doing right now lol, UHHHH lemme get back to you on the rest of them. OH i am also dipping my toes into the bts fandom with @spectralprongs's help!! <3 i'm also still very mad that in the flesh was canceled after 9 episodes

top 5 favorite films: pan's labyrinth, pacific rim, coco, jurassic park, the devil's backbone probably

go to song when you wanna Feel something: when i want to feel WHAT THO? so many moods, so many songs if you get specific i might have a better answer lol

what’s your religion or faith if you have one?: i was raised catholic, so there's a flavor of catholic jokes that will always make me laugh

a song that makes you feel seen: la respuesta lmfaldfmllkm YO NO NECESITO UN HOMBRE QUE ME JODA

if you could have any career: i wanted to be a photographer traveling the world taking pics and getting paid for it, but idk i'm p ok where i am rn working in immigration law if only because i can help people

do you have a type?: sweet gremlin men with nice bone structure, women who could probably beat me up

what does your heart/soul yearn for: for unprecedented times to be OVER please a bitch is tired

if you had to describe yourself in 5 words to someone who doesn’t know you: I Cannot for some reason it's so hard for me to describe myself lol but if anyone else wants to answer this for me GO FOR IT

favorite subjects in school: photography! art! languages! english! french! music classes!

where does your soul feel most at home: anywhere i can relax with my favorite people <3

top 5 fictional characters:

top 3 moments in a show that made you ugly cry: OOF moments??? the first ep of futurama with seymour the dog, the season finales of itf, idk i try not to watch shows that are going to make me sad lmao i'm cheating and putting the beginning of up here too

the earth, the sun, the moon or the stars: the earth we are not nice enough to her she's doing her best!!!! the stars are a close second but i don't get to look @ them enough thanks light pollution

favorite kind of weather: SNOWSTORM you can spend all day playing in it and then be cozy inside after with blankets and soup

top 3 characters you relate to: I CHANGED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I DIDN’T LIKE HOW IT WAS WORDED LMAO but every oldest sibling from the untamed who raised their younger siblings oldest siblings deserve financial compensation!!!, prob the weasley twins who are v smart but also v much not about their grades lol (that's 6 it counts)

favorite medium of art: all of them i refuse to pick one!!! well no i can tell u my least favorite art medium is art made from trash and/or period blood

introvert/extrovert/ambivert: extrovert allegedly

a favorite literary quote: bruh i haven't read an actual book in SO LONG i need to make more time to read

some of your favorite books: remind me about this one i am at work and have forgotten every single book i've ever read

if you could live anywhere in the world where would it be?: i think i'm ok here! i love traveling and visiting new places, but i live super close to a big city and i like having Four Seasons (total landscaping ladfkamdf i'm sorry it was right there)

if you could live in any time in history when would it be?: mmm like cap said, history hasn't been particularly good to female-presenting people, and i'm gonna add that it's also been sorta terrible to not white people. NOT THAT NOW GOING PARTICULARLY WELL LMAO BUT UHHHH. if i could go just like watch history, maybe a period when art/music was having a big boom

if you could play any instrument masterfully it would be: piano!!! i have one but i can only play by ear lmao (it was an inheritance) i should be able to read music after many years playing different instruments but nope none of it stuck

if you have one, what mythological god or goddess do you feel a connection to: i do not have one

and lastly, favorite recent selfie in your camera roll: all of my recent selfies have been mask selfies i sent kie or pics of office puppy on the selfie camera WHOOPS i don't really take selfies

#about me #IM BAD AT PICKING FAVORITE THINGS IM SORRY #shhh im a libra

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valentinesparda · 4 years

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🎫 here's a gush pass ^^ feel free to gush about whichever f/o you want, however much you want, then send this ask to 3 other selfshippers

@littlegreeklover HELLO I AM HALF AWAKE AND FULL OF LOVE SO THAT MEANS ITS TIME!!!! TO BE A COMPLETE DOLT AND GO HAM. I was going to gush about a few different characters, but....I started writing the first bit and it ran a little too long, so. here it is, raw and uncut.

spike. where do I FUCKIN begin. I guess I should start where everyone does: from the beginning.

spike is, and has always been, one of those anime characters who has remained a fan favourite over the years since his debut (I think it actually was 22 years ago exactly that it aired first), and there are plenty of reasons to see why. he's easygoing, he tends to not take things to seriously, but he knows when to buckle down and get serious. he's the charming roguish type, the one with a chip on his shoulder and a seemingly mysterious past, who takes his days one step at a time. so it's really no surprise that I, too, would fall for that archetype!!

to be kind of superficial for a moment, I'm gonna go off about his looks, because h-hello??

he's tall, he's handsome, he has the prettiest brown eyes, and his hair looks incredibly soft, and I think about playing with it a lot. his nose is super cute, too, and any time he says something stupid I wanna kiss him. I wonder what it would feel like to hold his face in my hands, because he probably has soft skin and a little scar near his right eye, and I often find myself trying to look close enough just to catch the small color shift between the two of them. and he might be lanky but I'm sure he's the perfect size to be able to wrap my arms around his waist comfortably and rest my head on his chest. the perfect hugging height, and the perfect height for cuddles....not to mention every time I see him wearing his stupid gloves while flying I think about holding his hand, or maybe HE grabs my face gently just to tease me and leave me without a kiss.

this particular gif is indeed killing me, and I WILL put it here so that y'all know what I have had in my head on constant loop for the past day. I am litcherally going to die.

but now for the moment we've all been waiting for: me crying about how good he is!!

he....he's just so good and so silly and I love watching him be a little asshole and make jokes even when he shouldnt be. pushing buttons, testing limits, doing whatever he can to finish a mission. how many times has he said he's going to abandon the bebop crew only to show up bruised and bloody and be welcomed back with open arms?? too many. he says he hates women like faye but doesn't do anything about it, just sighs and resigns himself to seeing her the next day. he says he hates children like ed, yet relies on them because he knows how talented they are. he says he hates animals like ein, but you can see him gradually get more and more attached in his own way as the episodes go on. jet is the closest thing to being his best friend and he knows it and he doesn't have to say it because they've got such a good thing going that he probably feels like if he DID, some divine retribution would rain from the sky and ruin his life.

spike goes out of his way to be a good man to the people he comes to know, like lying to VT about being a bounty hunter because she didn't like them and like yeah he didn't want to be called out for it but also he like....was just genuinely nice?? and he gave her the money she gave HIM back to her even if he really needed it because it didn't feel right to him?? all because he learned about her husband and they both liked the same gross drink?? GOD

he listens to people, he takes time to get to know them. he was, and always is, willing to put his life in danger just to save someone else. like, he might have the universe's biggest death wish, he might think so lowly of himself to jump at the first sign of danger because he feels like he deserves to take some sort of punishment, but fuck if he's not going to die for the right reasons. fuck if he's going to let someone die for him, or because of him. I mean, the man fell in love and it managed to change him. that is such a profound experience to go through, and leave it being a better person than you were, to figure out that maybe you have something worth living for, to love so deeply that it made you afraid of dying??

him living in the present isn't just a personality trait, it's a coping mechanism. thinking about the past?? sucks man, don't do it, -2/10, would not recommend, your past does not define you, but it does shape you. thinking about the future?? scary, impossible, especially when death could be looming around every corner. the present?? a tameable creature, so much easier to deal with the now rather than worry about what comes next, or after. it hurts so much less to just take things as they come and enjoy life while you have it, especially when life hasn't been so kind to you or anyone around you. you CANNOT change the past, or erase the experiences of your life because they made you who you are today. you CANNOT force the future because it is an ever-changing machine based on the choices that you make. you can ALWAYS try to change how the present is to make life worth living. like maybe his choices won't matter. maybe the way he effects someone else's life isn't so profound. maybe the things he does today won't matter tomorrow. but there isn't any harm in trying it anyways. but the future is so daunting, the past weighs you down, just take it easy and worry less. whatever happens, happens.

the thing is....some of the things I see spike doing, especially the destructive tendencies and the way that he thinks, they hit close to home. and my poor little bleeding heart wants nothing more than to give him some semblance of hope in the bleak world he finds himself in. I don't wanna be his other half, I just wanna be there to make living a little less hard. he deserves nice things - even if he doesn't think so - because he brings nice things to the world in his own way. he cares in his own way and even though he doesn't know it, he'll leave behind something good. maybe not physically, but the effect that his kindness and selflessness has on the people he gets to know will stay, and that's all that I personally could ever hope to do for other people.

so this one is for you, space cowboy. I love you.

#asks #i am. goig completely insane #spike #long post

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roswelldetails · 4 years

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RNM 2x08 - Say It Ain't So

EPISODE SUMMARY:

JAMIE CLAYTON GUEST STARS — Despite promising Liz (Jeanine Mason) that he’ll take things easy with his new heart, Max (Nathan Dean) sets out to find Cameron after learning that she’s gone missing. Michael (Michael Vlamis) grows concerned about Maria (Heather Hemmens) after a surprising discovery about her family history leaves her vulnerable. Elsewhere, ready to move on, Alex (Tyler Blackburn) goes on a date with Forrest (guest star Christian Antidormi), and Rosa (Amber Midthunder) makes a decision about her future. Rachel Raimist directed the episode written by Eva McKenna & Christopher Hollier (#208). Original airdate 5/4/2020.

DETAILS:

Rosa's secret identity:

"...Cousin Rosalinda from Arizona. My mom married a minor league baseball player, but when he got relocated to a team in Florida…"

"Okay, you know what, let's just go with, they're dead."

This is a Twilight reference.

Rosa about the Mean Girl's art in the cave:

"That reminds me of Stephen Powers before he sold out."

Stephen Powers is a former street artist who went commercial. Some examples of his older work here:

Other examples of his newer, more commercial work here:

By the way, speaking of the cave:

And this is some fabulous visual storytelling right here:

Max is working at the Wild Pony. Temporarily, of course.

"Turns out debt collectors don't care if you've been half dead in a glowing pod for a few months."

So much for the headcanon that Max "I've been driving the same car since high school and am a homeowner before 30" Evans is good with his money. 😆 Debt collectors don't show up that fast… not that I know from experience or anything. 😳 *backs slowly away*

Iris refers to the cave as the go to hang spot for all the artsy weirdos. So it isn't like it was specifically Rosa's cave/hidden spot.

It's the first time we've seen this particular cave other than in 2008 flashbacks.

Iris Sanchez & Rosa Ortecho. Flower, Mexican family name. 😭 The hint is there!

Also 👀 from:

The iris earned its name from the ancient Greek Goddess Iris, a messenger to the gods who was thought to use the rainbow as a bridge between heaven and earth...these flowers were named to honor the Rainbow Goddess and bring favor upon the earth.

Mimi made Maria take back the necklace.

"She said that it was too late for her and that I needed it more."

Michael has seen the necklace before, but he didn't know what the flower was when he fixed the clasp and returned it to her in 1x10. It was 1x11 when they learned of the existence of the anti alien pollen. Michael reminds us:

"I know this flower. Its pollen has a paralytic effect on alien abilities."

Once Maria takes it off, she can name every card Michael pulls from the deck.

Maria lists off a bunch of necklace facts from past episodes that fandom has previously noted...

Her powers were heightened when Michael had the necklace in 1x10.

She wasn't wearing it when Noah invaded her at the gala.

And she wasn't wearing it at Woman As Warrior in 2x02 when she sensed that Isobel was pregnant.

"Kyle said you aren't an alien."

Fact. Kyle did say that. It doesn't mean that it's a fact that Maria doesn't have alien DNA in her though.

Kyle determined that her blood doesn't carry the alien protein that's in the Pod Squad and Rosa. He is making an assumption that the protein is tied to being an alien.

He said he ran other tests, but the results would take longer to come in.

Also, just a personal theory, what else do Rosa and the Pod Squad (and Noah) all have in common? They all spent significant time marinating in a pod full of goo. Rosa (10 years), Pod Squad (at least 50 years), Noah (60 years). Kyle has not studied any samples of alien biology from an alien who didn't spend time in pod goo. It's possible the protein is related to the pod goo, moreso than the alien biology. Again, just speculation on my part.

Maria confirms that her mom started getting sick when she was 18, just after she passed the necklace on to Maria.

"If this prevents you from having more episodes, it probably stops the neurodegeneration process too. It's not kryptonite, Maria. This is preventative medicine. Keep it on."

In 2x06 it was established that in addition to Sanders' place being a junkyard and a mechanic/auto shop, they also do tow truck service. Now that comes into play again as Michael was hired to bring Cam's car back to Roswell for the investigation into her disappearance. He brought it to the junk yard first though to give Max and Liz an hour to check the car for clues before the sheriff's department comes to collect it.

Max is smart too, in his own way. He quickly identified that "Agent Powell" was driving a rental car and that her gun wasn't government issue.

However, it's only when he sees her tattoo (which Cam told him about in 1x07) that he confirms that she's actually Charlie Cameron!

(10 points to fandom!)

Max & Liz's conversation with Charlie is mostly just reminding us what we know about Charlie and Jenna's relationship.

Liz indicates that Jenna had been looking for Charlie for months. Charlie responds that she didn't want to be found (both things we learned in 2x04 through Cam's discussion with Jesse Manes.

Max indicates that Jenna thought that Charlie hated her, a call back to us first learning about Charlie and the matching tattoos in 1x07.

"I worked on a controversial project a while back. A lot of dangerous people want to know what I know."

(Again, stuff we learned in 2x04).

They learn through Cam's text history that she was looking for Jesse Manes (which we already knew, because...2x04).

"I'm just a guy standing in front of a tourist trap asking a history buff to shoot him with high velocity paint."

Tongue-in-cheek reference to the movie Notting Hill.

"So, you're cool playing war? Doesn't bring anything up?"

"Oh, yeah, my PTSD triggers are a little more complicated. Suffice to say, this war zone is the only place that my family actually got along when I was a kid."

"Yeah, some of my old platoon buddies actually play in leagues."

"I didn't know that you served."

"Yeah I wouldn't go bragging about it to a guy with a Purple Heart. I might have googled you."

New information… both that Forrest served, that he looked into Alex (which could be innocent OR sketchy…).

And of course this is the first open discussion about Alex's PTSD issues.

Cowboys versus aliens paintball… Alex is the cowboy, so Forrest must be the alien.

The call that interrupted Forrest's attempt to kiss Alex was from the hospital. Hence why Alex goes there to see Jesse.

"Look, if I had a little lucky charm that could stop people like Noah from messing with me, I would have that surgically implanted into my décolletage."

Have to admit, I wasn't sure what décolletage meant, so in case anyone else isn't familiar:

"These abilities are a part of me. I'm not gonna just throw away the chance to learn about who I am. That make sense to you?"

"Yeah, actually, it does."

"You've gotten stronger this year, right? Can you teach me to train? Learn how to control it all?"

"Look, it took a lot of practice before I could do anything without puking and guzzling acetone to kill the pain. And you can't practice, because according to Kyle, every time you do it eats your brain."

"Look, I'll stop before it goes that far, okay? I know the signs. Besides, if you help me, maybe I can help you. There must be something that you want to know about your future."

"What about my past?"

Max meeting with Jesse at the Crashdown. This is super interesting because it's the first time Max has sat down, face to face, with a hostile human who knows he's an alien.

"My uncle used to bring me here. That was back when it catered to a more civil clientele. People who actually respected the history of this town."

This is likely foreshadowing what's to come next week, based on the promo pics released.

Again, similar to the scene with Charlie at the junkyard, much of this exchange between Max and Jesse is just reminding us of stuff we learned in 1x04.

"The last time I saw her she came to me with questions about her sister. And I told her that the people most interested in Charlie's device were a black ops group based out of Los Alamos. They're called Deep Sky. This is their logo. Paramilitary. And I told Jenna that what she was getting into was gonna be dangerous. But apparently she didn't listen.

Note: in case any of you are unaware, in Los Alamos there's a US DOE lab that has a long, sketchy history of weapons development. Makes perfect since that it's where a paramilitary organization interested in Charlie's research would be based there.

The Deep Sky Logo

I compared this to a number of screenshots of alien symbols (like the ones we saw in Jim Valenti's letters in 1x12) and there were no matches.

However, fandom has already noted that the logo matches Trevor's ring in 2x06 (see that episode's details post for the photo).

"Charlie Cameron's mind is a unique specimen. Kind of like you. And there's always someone in the shadows waiting to crack those open."

"What did you do to Jenna?"

"I told her the truth. Which is more than you ever did. You're kind of a wolf in sheep's clothing, aren't you?"

"And what are you? Do you feel like a hero? All those people you tortured, all those people you killed. Turns out none of them were an enemy. They were refugees. So you're not just a murderer, you're a failure."

"Yeah, I know. I am. But I tell you, something shifted in my brain when I had the stroke. All the hate's gone out of me. All the fight. Caulfield is over and my son Flint has been reassigned. Look at me. I can barely walk."

Liz and Charlie in the car:

"Waitressing's really got to blow when you've grown a fully functioning heart muscle in a lab. Or are you not the same Elizabeth Ortecho who co-authored a 2013 paper on cellular reprogramming? Some people build model trains; I do my homework. Your boyfriend seems more like the train type."

"What is that supposed to mean?"

"We've discovered new worlds and changed the course of mankind from a microscope. Should I go Netflix and chill with my boyfriend or stay in the lab, architecting the future?"

"No offense, but if it's true that you've been in prison and in hiding, it does not seem like you've seen much of the inside of a lab either."

"I went too far. I thought I was building something with real value. The thing is, anything that has the potential to create real change, it scares people. And anything that scares people is inherently dangerous no matter what your intention is."

"You could start over. Get a new identity, work at a research university."

"I've done extraordinary things. Everything ordinary is ruined now."

More exposition that we already know as Max catches Charlie and Liz up on what he learns from Jesse.

"He said Cam is headed to Los Alamos to investigate a group called Deep Sky. Does that mean anything to you?"

"No. Let me reach out to some of my military contacts, do some recon. Give me a day, we'll go from there."

Liz and Michael, in the lab, on The Science:

"I'm looking for the sample of yellow pollen."

"The stuff I swept off the floor after throwing it at Noah? I don't know. I didn't see it while we were packing up."

"Well it was here a few months back. Did I miss an experiment where it grew legs and a fondness for the outdoors?"

"Could have been accidentally thrown away. Sample was too oxidized to be of much use, and I've been trying to get my hands on fresh flowers, but it's impossible. I think they might be extinct. Why are you freaking out?"

"Because I have a math problem. There's only one flower in Maria's necklace, but there are two DeLuca women and apparently the flower is the key to preventing their illness. This is everything from the Caulfield drives and the experiments done on Maria's grandmother. A lot of it was lost in a lab fire in the '80s, but…"

"I'll take a look."

(Aside… 👀 Lab fire in the '80s. I have a feeling that's more foreshadowing.)

"I just want you to see if anything done could be undone. I don't want you to, like, Dr. Frankenstein it. The experiments were very bad."

"My days as an alien scientist are officially over."

"Why don't I believe you?"

"'Cause it's hard not to think about the far-reaching implications of this kind of research. You don't get sick on this planet. If I could figure out why, I could eradicate all illness."

"But you can't. Because that would expose us."

"Which I would obviously never do. It's over."

Arturo's text to Liz:

Have you seen our little mouse?

"Rosalinda" is late for her first shift.

Isobel and Maria go to Michael's trailer and Isobel shows Maria the newspaper clip of Michael's mom to try to trigger a vision.

"It's not working. And I don't feel great going through this stuff without Michael knowing."

"Why not? One day this palace might all be yours."

"It's not working. I have a business to run, and you need to go Instagram something."

"Says the social media revitalizer. Listen, word to the wise, every time Max saw Liz in a skirt and tried not to pop a bulb, he wound up setting off a fire alarm. Everytime I push myself too hard, I miss time, or wind up accidentally realizing that my mom still thinks about her ex-boyfriend Rocco, like, in vivid detail."

"Okay, where are you going with this?"

"Effort doesn't equal control. So if you want to do this you're gonna have to embrace your inner ice queen and let it go."

"I'm not great at letting things go."

"Yeah, I know. That's hard…"

Maria's vision:

Triggered by a t-shirt hanging in the trailer.

Louise is hanging laundry

Walt runs up to her and gives her a little windmill with her name on it. (Initially I thought her name was pressed or punched into the metal, but on second viewing, it looks like it might be puff paint or something similar.)

Walt runs off to find Nora and Louise goes back to hanging laundry.

After the vision Maria's nose starts bleeding.

Max goes after Charlie to stop her from turning herself in.

I wonder if his tire screeching action guy driving is supposed to be emphasizing to the audience that he's not being as cautious as he should be?

Deep Sky said that if Charlie "...wasn't at Sutter's grain depot by 11pm, that they would torture (Cam) to death."

Charlie heard on the call:

A train rolling by

A demonic laugh

And somehow that's enough for Max to magically know exactly where Cam is.

Alex and Jesse at the hospital:

"Hey, they said that you mixed whiskey with your medications. That's not like you."

"What the hell are you doing here?"

"I don't know. I mean, you're my father. I can't seem to shake you."

"Yeah. I failed."

"Yes. But in what way specifically?"

"Uncle Tripp. I let him down. I never could figure out what he needed of me. And tonight I went to the bunker. And I keep trying to crack the code."

"Liz said that you spoke to Max Evans. She said that you were half decent to him. Is that what this is about?"

"One of them killed Tripp, you know."

"An alien? Yeah. Then he hunted them. He dragged them to a torture chamber. I'm not surprised one of them…"

Jesse slams his cane.

"He was the best man I ever knew.

Jesse tries to stand and falls into Alex, then continues to walk away.

The location that Deep Sky is holding Cam looks like a rodeo or horse arena or racetrack with a big grandstand.

There are nearby train tracks, and a warehouse where a mechanic repairs old carnival rides.

As Max and Charlie are scoping out the area you can hear both sounds softly in the background.

The sniper was watching and shooting at them from the grandstand.

Charlie is shot in the leg.

"Let me go get her."

"No. Deep Sky wants me alive. Your brain is worth considerably less to them which means it'll be splattered all over the dirt."

(Oh the irony...confirming that Charlie doesn't know that Max is an alien.)

"If anything goes wrong, call Liz. No doctors."

Max does shoot the sniper!

And then uses his powers to knock out the power (and instantly feeling it in his heart when he starts to use his powers!!!!!!) which, as @angsty-aliens very eloquently pointed out, is absurd because there was a big red lever that would have done the same thing. *facepalm*

Cam on her kidnapping:

"The last thing I remember is this weird sound. It made the hairs on my arm stand up. And this bright light, and the pain in the back of my neck like you wouldn't believe."

Cam's burn is fractals. Like Liz's burn from Max's powers in 1x03. Top is Liz's fresh burn in 1x03, bottom is Cam's not-so-fresh burn in 2x08. Keep in mind, we don't know how long Cam was missing for.

Rosa and Iris at the "art show".

"So you said you're from Roswell?"

"Oh, I was from Roswell. I got out and went to art school as soon as I graduated. I work for an artist now. I help her run her gallery. Yeah, I used to want to be a painter, but then I realized I loved curating art way more than I ever loved making it."

👀 I wonder what this says about Rosa's internal motivation. If Iris is the life she wishes that she had, does she not want to be a painter? Or is that her internal insecurity rearing its head. Like, she can't even dream about that possibility because it's what she really wants above all else. Which is why Iris then motivates her to paint and prove to her inner self that she is an artist?

Speaking of which, here's Rosa's painting from the episode. Mucho gracias to @rosaortecho for giffing it for me since it wasn't cap-able in a single shot.

Iris's assessment of Rosa's art:

"This piece is you outrunning your demons. This is amazing. That's what you have to do. You have to capture them and rattle the cage. This is art. This is what you're meant to do, Rosa!"

Rosa's hallucination starts to fall apart as they dance. She starts coughing and having trouble breathing.

"Your star sign's just out of whack."

Play on lyrics from God of Wine by Third Eye Blind, which was heavily referenced in 1x02.

The direct quote is "your star sign's out of whack" and the next lyric is "a fraudulent zodiac"

Which, of course, is what Rosa had written on her hand before she died in 2008 and is a reference to Ophiuchus, which was Noah's zodiac obsession.

And then Liz finds her overdosing in the cave.

The coughing in Rosa's hallucination was from smoke inhalation. Because while passed out she started a fire with her powers.

Feels like a good time to point out that it's the same cave that she died in back in 2008, and she would have died there again if Liz hadn't found her. 😭

At the hospital Rosa tells Liz that she wants to go to rehab, but she knows she can't since she can't control her powers.

Liz gives her Maria's necklace to borrow since it will suppress her powers and allow her to go to rehab.

Alex and Forrest at the Wild Pony:

"I still have my dad's voice in my head telling me that being seen with a man in public is an embarrassment. To my name and my uniform."

"Well, there's nothing like a dad voice to mess up a perfectly good date."

"It's also just that...I mean, Roswell's so conservative. This bar is filled with cowboys. If you want to go someplace private…"

"Look, I like you. But I don't want to climb into somebody else's closet."

"I cannot tell you how badly I want to be done with this frickin' closet."

"But you're not. And that's okay. Really. Listen, if that voice in your head ever shuts up, give me a call. Because between you and me, making out with a hot guy in public is only made hotter when it pisses off all the bigots and homophobes."

Charlie took off and left a note for Jenna. According to Jenna it says she's gonna disappear again and not to look for her.

Arturo is taking Rosa to a rehab center that Kyle set her up with "a few hours away".

Max tells Liz "let's go home." So… did she move in with him??

Liz says no though. She says she has to open the diner and cry alone. But instead she goes to the secret lab.

Both Max and Liz were evading the truth a little bit here. Liz didn't tell Max that she wanted to go to the secret lab. Max didn't tell Liz that his heart did wonk out after using his powers and he did overdo it going after Cam. Bad Echo!!

Liz goes back to packing the secret lab up initially, but then her eyes fall into the Caulfield folders, and she stops.

She unpacks her stolen equipment (genetic sequencer?), puts on her lab coat, and sits down to start reading the file.

Isobel brings Michael beer as a peace offering, since she's coming to admit that she helped Maria trigger a vision. She thinks Michael will be mad, but he isn't because he and Maria already worked it out.

So Isobel tells him about the vision and seeing Louise, and specifically about Walt giving Louise the windmill.

Michael immediately reacts, goes to a shelf, and grabs a similar windmill.

Turns out Walt is Sanders. He pulls up in his car and Michael immediately confronts Sanders.

"It was you. You're Walt. You're the little boy in the photo. You knew my mother."

And Sanders nods.

10 more points to fandom.

Max goes to Charlie's hotel to confront her about turning herself in to Deep Sky.

The windmill in both scenes. Until I put this together I didn't think they were the same one (because Louise's name isn't on Michael's. But other details (like the word weight on one of the legs) are the same.

"You think Deep Sky needs to have Jenna by the throat to kill her? Okay, the only way that I can protect her is from the inside."

Then the "abduction scene" happens.

It mirrors what happened to Jenna in 2x04, only to Max and Charlie.

MUSIC:

1. Hole "Celebrity Skin"

2. Lukas Nelson & Promise Of The Real "Die Alone"

3. Shelly Fairchild "Worry No More"

4. Marc Danzeisen "Some Things Last Forever"

5. Joey Sykes "Sign Of The Times"

6. I AM ORFA "Like That Look"

7. Danny Ayer "Set Us Free"

8. Hamish Anderson "Trouble"

9. OMC "How Bizarre"

10. Muscadine Bloodline "Movin' On"

11. Little May "Hide"

#roswell new mexico #details #rnm season 2 #episode details #long post #rnm 208 #say it ain't so

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Episode 13 - "I'm on the side with the biggest threats to win this game" ~Josh

This last round went well!! We got Jay out (rip Corn Tribe💔 tho fr fr it died shortly after merge probs) and I'm still in the game :D We love to see an actual numbers majority now bless 🙏🏽 I hope I go soon 😅 Ingary my beloved is suffering a bit (ty/sorry Dyl 💖) I can't see that happening though bc Colin seems to find me and Amy as his best allies and would use his idol on us so RIP me tbh, typical that the game I'd like to lose earlyish in is the one I go to FTC 😂 tho if I went with Amy and Colin I do think one of them would win (with the double agenting and chaos idle-ing and they're both p social), I'm just good at taking the information we have and planning to ensure we have the best possible outcomes at tribal (which is SO much easier now that we have a numbers majority My Gosh!!!). I love sudoku puzzles but the thing is I'm used to playing on apps or online where it's easier to play kinda methodically, also the height of my sudoku phase was like, last year where I could complete an easy one avg. 10 minutes best time 7 minutes, these two with my 10% DA took 50 minutes, so take off 10% and it's 45 minutes, divide by two and it took me 22.5 minutes per puzzle. Yeah no I don't think I'm gonna win 😂😂 oh well, thanks Raf for letting me do them tonight though, you probably wanted to get to bed but tomorrow I have work and then my driver's license exam (!!!) and then movie night so I really don't have time to 😅😅 but hey! I dont have a second part to that✨ Time isn't real so wish me luck on my driving test now retroactively so that the positive vibes flowing backward through chronos (aka "linear" time) will ensure that when you read this I will already have my license❤️. xoxo, gossip girl

honestly having more numbers done for you in a sudoku puzzle is just making me more confused

math challenges during pride month is pure homophobia

Congrats to jared for guaranteeing himself f5 for winning today 😭 and here I thought I did well with 40 minutes. I don't think he would play his idol on jodi but I don't know with this invisible round. Apparently Jodi is telling people I have the idol from phantom aka the one colin has, which is a problem if they are trying to flush it. I guess I'm a threat even though probably only dennis in the jury isn'taf at me lol. Colin has an idea to get votes on him then idol and us two vote Josh out but I really think they are going to be voting me based on how quiet it is and how many other alliances there are lol. There's the three with Josh and Jared and Colin because Josh doesn't want me at the end. See I knew he didn't like me lol. So I'm here trying to think of I need to play something or give it away and be voted out lol or just keep it and be out. My thought was to use the steal a vote so then no one would know it was me who had it but I kind of think I might need that next round of say jodi wins then jared idols. At f5 it could be me colin and jared all idoling if none of us make a move lol. Anyway I think I'm on shaky ground this go and idk why haha I'm there are much bigger threats that a no social person who flipped and wasn't even bonded with the jury lol. Here's hoping colin elle and I stay strong. And I can get second to colin. That would be fun lol but lots of game left. And I'm still at disney. This is going to be a stressful day.

I hate invisible rounds. too much is going on. and literally no one is online to talk it out personally, i want Josh out this round. I think if I wait until final 4 to cut him, he'd be bitter at me in particular. Plus, he's not in my endgame plans. I want to have an easy win, and that means putting Elle and Jared next to me in ftc. the most obvious thing to do is split between Jodi and Anastasia, and I think that's happening because it's simple and no one else is around to dispute it. Amy is still my closest ally and I can trust her, so I told her that I want to take out Josh. i don't think the two are close so it was easy to get her on board. There's an option of me ENSURING he goes by playing my idol for whoever Jared and Jodi is voting for, but I don't want to do that. so my plan is to also have Jodi vote Josh with us, so it's 3-3-1. Either Jared idols Jodi and Josh leaves, or it's a revote and Josh still leaves god I'm just so worried and nervous. If I were to get blindsided, this is the round to do it. but I don't see anyone stepping up to actually pull the trigger, except maybe Jodi. I wanna make it to the end so badly. i've been playing orgs for too damn long, I need a win. please please please let me survive this round

So I'm coming to the realization that at least 2 people on my side have idols and theres still a hidden steal a vote that Elle might have. So I'm on the side with the biggest threats to win this game so it's time to make a move. Jared said that he'll be willing to play his idol to save Jodi so that means that it's time to flush these idols out of the game. The plan is for 2 of us to vote for Colin and the other to vote either Elle or Amy. My original alliance is splitting vote between Jodi and Anastasia with me, Elle and Anastasia voting Jodi and Colin and Amy voting for Anastasia as our contingency plan. However, Jodi warned me that Colin was saying my name to her this morning so he might try to pull some snake shit. But im hopeful that Jared plays the idol for Jodi and somehow Colin doesn't play his so it'll be a tie between him and Anastasia.

So I have immunity and I have been a little inactive but its ok because Jodi has kept me up with whats going on. Jodi tells me that they are splitting the vote on me. Which is good because I am safe lol. Anyways but I talked to Colin and Amy and I wonder if they really do trust me now. I did vote with them twice. So I told them that I was scared that I was getting voted and they said they wouldnt vote me. So sweet. I also talked to Josh and all of them are saying Jodi to vote. But Jodi is getting an idol played on her Im pretty sure so unless one of them suspects that we are lying about Jared winning immunity, one of them is going home this round.

https://youtu.be/ebfzvSaWULY

Dear Colin: We do not want to vote you out. We simply want to flush your idol. I seriously hope you are still here after tonight. You know what? This round has been insane. I'm obviously on the bottom, ready to get voted out. I wanted immunity so bad. But instead of crying, I created a beautiful plan that I hope comes to fruition. Anastasia won immunity. My game move this round is multilayered. First step is to create immunity for 3 people: me, Anastasia, Jared. We told everybody that Jared had won immunity, and that he may or may not idol for me. This is perfect because if they vote for me, they'll have their votes negated, same with splitting them on Anastasia. They'll completely avoid voting for Jared to avoid their vote not being counted. Next step: flush idols. Josh approached me last night and he wanted to work with me and Jared to flush out idols from Elle, Amy, Colin. Originally before he even came to me, I had wanted to do a 2-2 on Amy and Colin and tell him it's between Elle and Amy, but he actually said that he wants to do a 1-1-1 on those 3 to guarantee either idols being flushed or we get our pick of who goes. Josh doesn't know that Anastasia is with us too, but it's sorted. Colin wants to vote out Josh here, but everybody wants to vote out me. He came to me and Jared to vote Josh, and hope that they (Colin, Amy, Josh, Elle, Anastasia) split the vote on me and Anastasia. However, since the split was (Elle, Josh, Anastasia) vote me, and (Colin, Amy) vote Anastasia, the vote split no longer works since Colin is voting for Josh and Amy wants to vote me. Essentially, it's a 4-3 Me to Josh in Colin's eyes, and he wants to get a vote thrown so that it could at least tie 3-3. Me, Jared, Anastasia have decided before even Colin and Josh approached us that we wanted to do a 2-1 on Colin and Amy or something, so the fact that Josh approached us is perfect. How are we countering advantages? 1. Idols Jared has one idol, and there's only 2 idols between Elle, Amy and Colin. By throwing votes on all 3, we either guarantee somebody flushes an idol, or we guarantee somebody gets idoled out 2. Floating advantage from hunt 5 From the wording, it's either an idol nullfier or steal a vote. I'm voting for Elle here just in case it's a steal a vote, so that at least Amy is still open for a revote in case Colin idols. (I'm hedging my bets that Elle has it not Amy) 3. Idol Nullifier In this case, I go if Colin idols, and I will just…not forgive Faffy for putting both a chaos idol and an idol nullifier in a game and those be the two ways I go. Let's just hope this isn't what hunt 5 is. The final plan should yield 2 votes Colin, 2 votes Jodi, 1 vote Josh, 1 vote Elle, 1 vote Amy. In a revote, we save Me > Josh > Elle > Amy > Colin. This vote is for the win. This will be my game winning move. Creating immunity for 3 people, flushing idols, picking who goes. Let's. Freaking Go.

So idr what I said before but Anastasia suggested to Amy that we needed to split votes and wanted to split some on me LOL so now we're putting 3 on her, possibly 4 if Josh comes online in the next 9 minutes✨ Never a smart plan for the latest addition to suggest voting off older allies, but oh well. One day we'll work together well, Anastasia 💖 one day 😂 But anyway! I really hope Colin and Amy make it to FTC, rooting for them🥳

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Edgic:

Power Rankings:

Jodi: Masterful plays and manipulations this round. Is getting her way. Best round of the game for her by far. The most impressive thing by far was giving three people immunity by a little lying.

Josh: The person who ratted out his side first. Made a huge move that might just save him. Taking out Colin here is perfect for him as it would give him a lot to say at FTC. He’s playing 3D chess while everyone else is playing checkers and Jodi is playing 6D chess. I think he will make it very far in this game even if people don’t necessarily want him at FTC.

Jared: Has the potential to do more. Just doing what Jodi tells him to do.

Anastasia: Playing the middle like a smooth criminal. She is letting others do her dirty work for her. She is using her ally in Jodi to have those connections outside her alliance. However, she is in danger of being seen as expendable very soon.

Colin: Is getting blindsided tonight. Power has gone to his head and has made him unable to perceive who is actually with him. Assumes people will just magically work with him. Too concerned with keeping his idol. He has become, in essence, the new Jodi.

Amy: Colin’s lackey. Has no idea what is going on and will probably continue to have no idea.

Elle: Completely out of the loop this round

So Jodi’s plan is currently to do a 2-1-1 between Colin, Amy, and Elle. Jodi, Jared, and Josh will each vote one of them. Then Anastasia will vote Colin. On the other side, Colin plans to vote Josh while Elle is voting Jodi because she’s being kept out of the loop by everyone. And Amy is at Disney World.

2 votes Colin

1 vote Josh

1 vote Elle

1 vote Amy

1 vote Jodi (nullified by Jared’s idol)

1 vote Anastasia (nullified by immunity)

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