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abybweisse · 4 days
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If the cult tragic event didn't happen to the 10 year old twins and they were allowed to grow up normally, would there have been arranged marriages for both boys? Which twin was Lizzie meant to marry?
Had Lizzie treated each twin boy the same, or differently?
Marriage arrangements
There possibly would have been an arranged marriage for both, but since our earl wasn't expected to inherit, there wouldn't be as much expectation for him to marry. If they'd had a daughter, there would have been more pressure to marry her off. They might have arranged a marriage between their daughter and Edward.
If Madam Red had borne a daughter, as she'd hoped, that daughter could have ended up betrothed to our earl, even though there would be a nearly ten year age gap. But I'm sure they could find someone much closer to our earl's age to match him with, if they wanted to arrange a marriage for him. The only thing is, the way Madam Red obsesses over Vincent, she might plead for them to have our earl wait until her own daughter was old enough to marry him.
Lizzie was meant to marry real Ciel, since he's the older twin, the original heir intended to become earl and watchdog.
She treated (and treats, technically) real Ciel as her betrothed. Our earl, she treats more like a brother or friend. Of course, right now she's angry with our earl and also angry with herself for not being able to tell them apart when our earl was pretending to be real Ciel.
This weird arrangement of marriages between cousins reminds me of the comparison I did between Black Butler and the Egyptian myth about Thoth helping the goddess Nut bear her five children: Osiris, Set/Seth, Horus (the elder), Isis, and Nepthys -- the siblings intermarry and have affairs, leading to Set/Seth killing Osiris, Isis getting Osiris resurrected, etc. Except here, we have Rachel giving us real Ciel (Osiris) and our earl (Set/Seth), Francis/Frances giving us Edward (Horus the elder) and Lizzie (Isis), and Madam Red was trying to have a daughter (Nephthys). Let's not forget that mysterious Osiris group mentioned by Rian Stoker. That might be how Undertaker was introduced by Druitt to Stoker in the first place....
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askaceattorney · 2 months
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mypokemonranch · 1 year
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Do you have a list of top 5 favorite pokemon?
Dodrio, Pumpkaboo, Archeops, Nidoking, and Bidoof are some of my favourites!
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abybweisse · 1 year
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Let me get this straight so I'm not mis-understanding anything. Is Real Ciel an animated corpse that Undertaker has brought to an imitation of life, and that RC is still at the mental/emotional/psychological age when he died? Does RC realize and is aware that he's a Bizarre Doll that isn't going to grow up?
Real Ciel as a Bizarre Doll
He is definitely a corpse that Undertaker has reanimated. In ch141, Undertaker even correctly says "reanimation", not "revival".
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His mental age is difficult to determine. He does seem to have the ability to learn. Not only did Undertaker have real Ciel witness as much as possible of our earl's doings, so he would soak up those experiences...
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...but real Ciel also learns about our earl's management of the estate. He has no personal interest in continuing with Funtom Co., but at least he does recognize the hard work and determination that went into building such a large and successful business. In ch141 still, Undertaker points out he can think on his own, so he can input and process new information. He has changed some since being reanimated, but it seems to be mostly for the worse, in many respects. Colder, meaner. Heartless (just like Claus in Mother3).
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The last part is also a bit hard for me to say with any certainty. He is aware that he's a bizarre doll, and he seems to understand he's not exactly alive. Our earl and Undertaker discuss this fact right in front of him (also ch141).
However, if he believes that Undertaker can fully revive him (soul transplant, etc.), he might assume he still has a future ahead of him where he's alive again, able to grow, able to have a family of his own someday, and so on.
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abybweisse · 10 months
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Have you already talked about what was enough to interfere with Undertaker on his rescue mission for the twins?
Who/what delayed Undertaker?
In the past, I know I've suggested that John Brown could have gotten in his way. We still don't know who the mystery person is in ch137, but it wouldn't be Undertaker or Polaris. If it's John Brown, that increases his chances of being a demon (who shows up on a whim) or an angel (who might be one of the "superiors" or "higher ups" mentioned by reapers).
I think I've also pondered (in a post or reblog) the idea it could have been William or some other reaper sent to investigate and collect souls but not to interfere. Definitely not Grelle or Ronald. Grelle doesn't know what's up with Sebastian and our earl until Sebastian talks about being "reborn" with the contract. Ronald first learns about Sebastian through Grelle's description. It could have been William, Eric or Alan, or some reaper we've yet to meet. It also wouldn't be Othello, since he's sent much later to verify Undertaker is really the deserter they are dealing with. Honestly, this also decreases the chance it was William. If it was a reaper, why didn't they relay their information to headquarters? This opens up the possibility that it was a reaper... who didn't survive the altercation with Undertaker... and therefore wasn't able to report their findings. 🤔
There are probably other possibilities, but I haven't thought of other good ones... except the possibility he just didn't have the necessary information to get there sooner.
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abybweisse · 1 year
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Why is it that Sebastian seems to somehow be in control when dealing with Our Ciel, but appears to be dumbfounded when dealing with BD Real Ciel? Has something changed within this demon butler? Where is Sebastian's sneakiness, and underhanded cleverness?
The best I can tell is because Sebastian is bound to our earl in that contract, which has some wiggle room for him... and even though there's some novelty about this contract, it's not his first. He knows the loopholes in the contract and can act accordingly. And he knows what makes his young master tick.
But he's still trying to process exactly how real Ciel even functions as well as he does. He ate real Ciel's soul, but that doesn't seem to bond them together. Not like that, anyway. He's honestly confused.
He has no control over anyone who is soulless. I don't think he can comprehend their thought processes and might not be able to anticipate their moves or choices too well, because of that. Hell, he can't even tell a bizarre doll is in the same room, let alone anywhere within the vicinity, without actually seeing them. That's why he couldn't detect Arden and his friends at Weston when he used demon senses to search for them, felt weirded out when he touched Agares' hand, and couldn't locate any of the star lords at Sphere Music Hall -- they were probably simply hiding just out of sight.
This is a major learning experience for the demon. This is completely outside the purview of his knowledge. It's new to him... and kind of scary.
I should think it worries him also because he must now question what he's said in the past about not being able to get back what was lost.
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Of course, what has returned isn't quite the real Ciel that our earl once knew and cherished. It's a nightmarish approximation. Merely a physical manifestation, literally without soul. But the physical manifestation still evokes deep emotions.
So, the demon finds himself in the weeds on this one. How do you handle a reanimated corpse that's "chock full of episodes"? Can you just cut it down in front of its loved ones? Our earl doesn't accept this bizarre doll of his brother as "his brother returned", but I don't think he would handle it well if Sebastian just went over and crushed real Ciel's head. He has to let his young master decide how to handle the situation.
I still anticipate their final confrontation to be more emotional than physical, between the twins. Maybe real Ciel will be more physically aggressive than our earl. And for Sebastian to be somehow barred from intervening on his young master's behalf... much like how Lucas didn't want to harm his dead and reanimated older mirror twin, Claus... and how Boney couldn't protect or fight on Lucas' behalf... during the twins' final confrontation in Mother3.
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abybweisse · 7 months
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I'm wondering if Vincent, Rachael, and Madame Red told/shared every story, or every real facts of wisdom of what they knew with Our Ciel and Real Ciel before they died. Do you suppose that Aunt Francis is doing the same?
Imparting wisdom?
I'm pretty sure they didn't, because our earl seems clueless about a lot of things that happened when his father was earl and watchdog. And Madam Red wasn't in Vincent's inner circle, because she wasn't shown in that pic with the evil nobles, and she didn't even know who Undertaker was before our earl investigated the Jack the Ripper case.
Beyond trying to prepare Lizzie to be the watchdog's wife, I don't think Francis/Frances is saying much of anything about what happened back then. And I don't know how much she knew either, anyway. She knew Vincent was watchdog, but her concerns had more to do with training the kids certain skills, like sword fighting, so his heir would be ready for the eventuality of replacing him... and her daughter would be ready to step up as the new watchdog's wife.
This makes me wonder what Francis/Frances thinks about many of her brother's decisions, including choosing Rachel as his wife. She might have previously argued with him about choosing a wife who would not be able to fend for herself, let alone defend him, in an altercation. I suppose he thought Rachel's personality and intelligence would be enough... and his sister didn't agree... which we see in how she raises Lizzie. Because she raises Lizzie to be the way she thinks the queen's watchdog's wife should be, and that's quite different from Rachel. Both can be girlish when the occasion calls for it. But Lizzie is intelligent but mild-mannered and physically deadly, whereas Rachel has a sharp and naughty wit but is physically frail. 🤔
Though Rachel definitely used her wits to deal with the twins, and they seem to have picked some of that up from her, I don't think she gave them much actual information about being watchdog and earl. She seems to have mostly emphasized the tradition and honor of inheriting the title and role.
The twins were being eased into the role one would eventually need to fill, when they desperately needed the nitty-gritty details as soon as possible. It's just that Vincent and Rachel were removed from their roles sooner than either of them had expected, right? Otherwise, they would have better prepared their sons... right?!?
I suspect everyone who had pertinent knowledge about the watchdog role just... thought they had more time to impart knowledge than they ended up with. Like another five years or so? It's like no one really wanted to tell these kids how dangerous their lives would be or how they would have to do all sorts of underhanded activities to bring others to some form of justice. There was a "let them be kids as long as possible" attitude surrounding them. When they needed to learn all the tools of their future trade. And when they needed to know all the dark secrets.
And the people who could have helped since then, like Tanaka, Chlaus, Undertaker, and Diedrich. Why aren't they telling our earl everything they know as soon as they see that our earl has returned to the manor and staked his claim? Simply because our earl is earl and watchdog now... and not asking? Do they assume someone else already told him?
Actually, it makes me wonder if real Ciel was getting an entirely different education whenever our earl wasn't at the same lesson....
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abybweisse · 9 months
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Is it possible for shinigami to create children with humans? Or with demons?
I know I've had asks like this before, so please look up posts about reaper abilities and limitations. Short answer:
With humans? I definitely think so. Without that, Undertaker couldn't be Cedric, and he's pretty much got to be Cedric.
With demons? Possibly... but few would ever try....
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abybweisse · 11 months
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How often has Undertaker been mistaken for any type of woman?
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abybweisse · 8 months
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Is it possible for this blog to show house floorplan blueprints of Ciel's main mansion, Ciel's townhouse, and the Midford mansion? I'm just wanting to know how extragantly the Phantomhives and the Midfords live.
Floor plans
We only have partial floor plans for Phantomhive Manor, which are shown in the murders arc. I could figure out a bit more of it, but it would take a while, be very incomplete... and possibly still include mistakes. Since the panels are so closed-in when our earl runs through the house and finds his parents and the dog on the floor, dead, idk if that scene occurs in the bedroom or in the front room of their suite. Quite possibly the front room.
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I imagine the floor plans for the townhouse match well with Phantom Manor in Paris. It might even have some underground space, like the entrance to the amusement ride does... just not serving the same purposes. Then again, Phantom Manor is more facade than real home, so its floor plan might be missing a room or two that would be found in the Phantomhive townhouse. I'm not sure.
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Similarly, the floor plans for Midford Manor probably match well enough with Scotney House, part of the Scotney Castle estate.
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However, I find it particularly difficult to get a floor plan for it, since it's been split up into apartments/flats for many years.
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At least we know there's a secret door in the library and two false doors in the dining room.
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abybweisse · 10 months
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What role in the manga is the undertaker meant to be? Is he an anti-hero, is he the end boss, is he the evil villain?
Undertaker's role?
Idk if I'd call him an anti-hero, simply because that's usually the role of a protagonist, like our earl and Sebastian.
I expect the (mostly emotional) end boss to be real Ciel, though he might be accompanied by Undertaker... at least at first. (This is a Mother3 parallel.)
Even Yana-san said at one point that Undertaker isn't a true villain. I expect the "evil" villain to be John Brown, or the queen under the influence/control of John Brown. (Another Mother3 parallel but even stronger as a Mother2 parallel.)
I think of Undertaker as a Severus Snape sort of character. Greatly flawed... but motivated by love to help take down the evil that destroyed the person he loved. Even if it means acting as a double agent... and as an adversary to someone he's sworn to protect. And he's both a foil and antagonist to Sebastian. (Some HP parallel tossed in for good measure.)
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abybweisse · 8 months
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Have you thought of the possibility that Undertaker used to be an albino human?
Yes. But I have no idea whether he really was.
Of course, there are different types of albinism. So, he could fall into that category without having red/pink eyes. Could be violet or even blue eyes and still be considered albino. If his skin is really that pale, and if his hair was always white.
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abybweisse · 2 months
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Are Sebastian and the Phantomhive servants still using and showing off their unique powers and abilities in the manga's current chapters?
Abilities on display
This ask was originally from August 2023 (whoops!), but whenever the servants get to show their unique skills, they usually do. However, they are coming up against harder and harder foes.
And many of the more recent chapters haven't given them much opportunity to shine. They are lucky to be alive, and one has now died... so far.
Regarding Sebastian, idk if he's actually interrupting Baldo's drift into the afterlife or if Baldo's just imagining him. It would be interesting if Sebastian can tap into his thoughts from so far away, but it would also suggest Sebastian already knows what's going on in Wiltshire while he's in Brighton... and I kind of doubt that's the case. Sebastian isn't stopping Snake from dying, so I figure that is something specific to Baldo's mind. It will be way more interesting to see our earl and Sebastian learning the outcomes of the other assignments, anyway.
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