#miraculous wishmaker

[marimbles]

kiss kiss fall in love

#and that’s what I have to say about that! #ml #miraculous ladybug #ohshc #ouran high school host club #adrien agreste #tamaki suoh #ml wishmaker #mine #my art #Abby if u see this please don’t block me

[rainbow-arrow]

"So you don't know me completely either, and yet we're still close friends, right?"

"I don't know what I'd do without you."

the most criminally underrated friendship in this entire show

#let's go #listen marinette gets to be kagami's friend on screen why is this held off until the moment he's leaving #luka couffaine #adrien agreste #lukadrien #mlb migration #ml #mlb #miraculous ladybug #shows up a month late to Rant about This episode #did i like this episode? more than most of the s5 ones but #eh #this show ended at wishmaker you can't change my mind on that

[miraculous-floconfettis]

NEVER PAUSE MIRACULOUS

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #adrien agreste #chat noir #ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #wishmaker #never pause miraculous #miraculous floconfettis

[bittersweetresilience]

Adrien Agreste and Borderline Personality Disorder

DISCLAIMER: I've been a bit low on spoons this week, so I haven't gathered as much evidence as I probably could have. Also, I am but a humble student in clinical psychology. This is mainly a thought compilation for @moonieratty!

To introduce the topic, without going into it too much, personality is described by features and behavioral patterns, or traits, consistent across situations and across time. Personality disorders are therefore enduring patterns of highly maladaptive traits evaluated in personal and sociocultural context (Dozois, 2019, p. 290).

Like other disorders, personality disorders have diagnostic criteria. The DSM is used primarily for diagnosis in the US and Canada while the ICD is used more widely in Europe and other places. I'm more familiar with the DSM, but I've included a brief section on the ICD to be comprehensive. It ended up a bit longer than anticipated, so let's go below the cut. Warning for discussions of abuse, self harm, and suicide, and a brief mention of substance use.

Overview of Borderline Personality Disorder

BPD is prevalent in a small percentage of the population, about 1-2% by varying estimates, and is characterized by instability across domains of emotions, identity, interpersonal relationships, and behavior. Its onset is usually in late adolescence or early adulthood and symptoms may diminish with age, after one's thirties or forties, especially with therapeutic intervention. Along with ASPD, it has been the focus of a lot of clinical research; it is unfortunately associated with high rates of non-suicidal self-injury and suicide (APA, 2022, pp. 754–755; Dozois, 2019, pp. 308–309).

Etiological factors for BPD include both biological and environmental disturbances. Of note to our discussion is the heightened risk for BPD in cases of child abuse or neglect, as well as growing up with another family member with a serious mental health condition (NHS, 2022). It's been well established that Gabriel is emotionally neglectful if not outright abusive toward Adrien in multiple ways, so this is a clear risk factor. In addition, although I won't argue definitively for Gabriel having a psychological condition, he did keep Emilie's body in the basement, so there is clearly some kind of disturbance going on.

From a cognitive-behavioral perspective, Linehan argues that BPD stems from families who consistently invalidate childhood emotional experiences and "oversimplify the ease with which life's problems can be solved," which may cause children to learn to seek attention and communicate with others through emotional outbursts (Dozois, 2019, p. 297). This rings true for Adrien and Gabriel as well.

I have to apologize for my son, Ladybug, he's like his mother. Way too overly dramatic. (Jackady)

It doesn't seem like this is the first time Gabriel has thought this, and labeling an emotional reaction as being overly dramatic is very much invalidation of it. As for emotional outbursts, Adrien has had quite a few, mostly as Chat Noir. More on this later.

To round out this first section, attachment theory proposes a connection between poor parent-child attachments and BPD relationship difficulties. Specifically, maladaptive behavior in relationships may stem from childhood development of an anxious-ambivalent attachment style, where intense fears of abandonment interfere with a strong desire for intimacy (Dozois, 2019, p. 310). You can clearly see this in Chat Noir's relationship with Ladybug, and I'm sure other people have discussed Adrien's attachment style more in depth, but suffice to say I think this is an apt description.

Argument from DSM-5-TR

In the DSM, personality disorders are primarily diagnosed on a categorical model. There are a few general criteria which I won't be going into, but I will highlight that personality disorders are stable and pervasive, and would be diagnosed only if they were leading to significant distress or dysfunction. Adrien's mental state is not great, so the latter shouldn't be a problem, but this show does not always pay attention to consistency, so I'm going to be speculating some. Everything in this section is cited to the relevant DSM entry unless otherwise stated.

The DSM characterizes BPD with instability in relationships, self image, and affects, as well as marked impulsivity. It has no exclusion criteria, so BPD can be and frequently is comorbid with other disorders like mood disorders, PTSD, and ADHD. Of the below criteria, five need to be met in order for a diagnosis to be made.

Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment

Hey, where're you going? . . . So you're allowed to know her true identity, but I'm not? (Syren)

You're not really replacing me with a turtle, are you? (Anansi)

A lot of people have delved into Adrien's abandonment issues, which feature most prominently in his relationship with Ladybug. His fears of being replaced result in him seeking reassurance from Ladybug, and he can lash out if he does not receive the response he hopes for. Ladybug is his world, and he wants to be hers, so anything infringing on that feels to him like a threat of being abandoned, and he does not like it very much.

Impulsive behaviors like giving up his ring can be interpreted under this lens: he can avoid abandonment by doing the abandoning first. Then it will be him leaving, and not the other way around.

I also interpret Adrien's nightmare (Le Marchand de Sable) as being a fear of being alone as much as it is a fear of being trapped.

Unstable and intense interpersonal relationships alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation

We'll be united, more powerful and free. We'll defeat Hawk Moth, then we can both run away to an island! Far away from everything. We will live off nothing but fruits, and we will have a little pet hamster and we will name it— (Le Patineur)

I just can't do this anymore. I give up… on everything. Even you . . . If I become Chat Noir again, Ladybug will just end up rejecting me, over and over. (Kuro Neko)

Even though Adrien mostly keeps his head on straight regarding what he's owed and not owed by other people, his relationship with Ladybug is full of highs and lows. He thinks Ladybug is the most amazing girl, but this can recoil quickly into feeling as though Ladybug doesn't care about him enough or isn't meeting his needs.

Furthermore, he developed this idealization of Ladybug as a potential lover or caregiver at one of their first meetings (Cœur de Pierre), and continually sought to spend time together and share the intimate details of their secret identities early on. These are all common to individuals with BPD, as is the switch from idealization to feeling as if the other person "does not care enough, does not give enough, or is not 'there' enough." Ladybug is the only person Adrien consistently projects this instability and intensity on, which might be something interesting to explore.

Identity disturbance: unstable self image or sense of self

When I was a kid, I always wanted to be what my parents wanted me to be! (Exauceur)

But, does that mean Chat Noir is who I really am? Deep down inside? (Kuro Neko)

With all the secret identities, it isn't surprising that Adrien fits this criterion, but canon even explicitly draws a link between Adrien's unstable sense of self and his childhood experiences. He doesn't know who he is, and he distracts from this by being Chat Noir, only to struggle even more when he feels useless and underlooked as his hero self. His behavior shifts dramatically between trying to prove himself with grand gestures and refusing to participate or lashing out. There is definitely something to discuss on this front.

Impulsivity in at least two potentially self-damaging areas

Giving you some extra time . . . I trust you to bring me back, m'lady. (Gamer 2.0)

There are only two liars left in Paris and one of them knows the ultimate way to catch her attention . . . Crazy about you, m'lady. (Mensonge)

This is walking a thin line between impulsivity and suicidal behavior, which would be excluded from this criterion, but I'll list self sacrifice here because I can see an argument for Chat Noir's impulsive behaviors being out of love or the desire to be useful. There may still be some self injurious intent or euphoria, but Chat Noir does have faith in Ladybug to bring him back eventually. Nevertheless, this is impulsive and unhealthy. Chat Noir jumps too quickly to this option to have thought it through.

I can't think of another area, because Adrien isn't old enough for reckless driving, spending, substance use, or sex. This is also a kids' show. Just presenting these options for fanfiction writers out there.

Recurrent suicidal or self mutilating behavior, gestures, or threats

I... I don't know what to do! (Chat Blanc)

This is all our fault . . . Cataclysm. (Culpabysse)

By itself, what happened in Chat Blanc would not be solid evidence, as that was an unprecedentedly traumatic situation. Combined with Culpabysse, though, there is a strong case to be made for at least passive suicidality for this to be able to come up as an option.

You could also interpret the self sacrifice in this category. Suicidal behavior in individuals with BPD is often preempted by fears of rejection or abandonment, so an interesting analysis could be made on this front.

Affective instability due to marked reactivity of mood

He's still only thinking of himself! I just want this terrible day to be over and done with! I hate Christmas! (Pire Noël)

Sorry! Sorry! I didn't mean to make you so mad. I get it. You're sick of me . . . No one can help me, Kagami. (Glaciator 2)

Adrien's prolonged episodes of anger and despair reflect a high reactivity to emotional stressors, especially interpersonal ones. In general, he just doesn't feel very well unless something is actively bringing him joy. Most of his outbursts are brief, though, and I will discuss them as part of a later criterion.

Chronic feelings of emptiness

I'm not Adrien, so I wouldn't know if this is the case, but I can say he has experienced at least one depressive episode (Kuro Neko) and emptiness would not be unfamiliar. You can look at him and decide.

Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger

How was your amazing evening with your "friends"? . . . What do you think? (Glaciator)

Why not? No one'll know if I quit. No one'll care! (Syren)

A two-person plan?! There's only one two-person plan, and that's Ladybug and me! (Sentibulleur)

Give me a break, Miss "I can't even come up with a superhero name"! (Hack-San)

Anger in individuals with BPD can manifest as bitterness, sarcasm, or recurrent verbal outbursts, which Chat Noir absolutely exemplifies. These outbursts are often followed by feelings of shame or guilt and contribute to a feeling of being bad. Chat Noir apologizes after being harsh in Glaciator, and I wouldn't be surprised if he felt badly about the other times. Again, these outbursts are often precipitated by interpersonal fears and perceived threats of abandonment. Unlike other symptoms, this specific one tends to be unique to BPD.

Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociation

I cannot recall any evidence for this but headcanon away, my friends.

All in all, I think Adrien has a strong case for BPD presentation according to the DSM. Canon is not always consistent, but I think it presents an interesting and mostly coherent narrative for this lens. From this perspective, Adrien's behavior reflects a deep intolerance of being alone and a dependence on other people to define the self.

As a corollary, BPD behavioral patterns are frequently linked to self sabotage and self undermining right when a goal is about to be realized, which could manifest as dropping out of school right before graduating or ending a relationship when it seems to be going well. Food for thought. Individuals with BPD may also feel more secure with transitional objects like pets than with interpersonal relationships, which could reflect in Adrien's relationship with Plagg.

To add some subjective understanding to this clinical mumbo jumbo, I've added a source of genuine BPD experiences below (Mind, 2022).

Argument from ICD-11

With the release of the ICD-11, a dimensional model for diagnosis of personality disorders became the new standard. What this means is that individuals are no longer labeled as having 'histrionic' or 'dependent' or, indeed, 'borderline' personality disorders, but are rather assessed as having any form of personality disorder on a sliding scale of severity and with trait domain specifiers (Swales, 2022). To put it more simply, people are diagnosed only with a general personality disorder or personality difficulty which can be optionally specified as deviating on one of the personality traits in the Big Five model, which is well established in personality psychology.

This move has several benefits. Stigmatization related to particular personality disorders can be reduced, and differential diagnosis and comorbidity between personality disorders becomes irrelevant. However, people retain access to treatment and support. Evidence-based treatments like dialectical behavior therapy are particularly well established and crucial for BPD; for this pragmatic purpose, the ICD contains one additional specifier for borderline pattern personality disorder (Bach et al., 2022; Swales, 2022).

The DSM and ICD are designed to be compatible with each other in many ways, and in this case, the borderline specifier in the ICD is directly lifted from the criterion of the DSM (WHO, 2023, 6D11.5). Based on our previous discussion, Adrien would be equally qualified for a diagnosis in France. I would likely describe his personality disorder with moderate severity, where multiple areas of functioning are affected and self harming behaviors may be present, but not all areas or relationships may be equally impacted and traits are not as rigid and inflexible (WHO, 2023, 6D10.0–6D10.2).

Interestingly, the ICD includes three additional manifestations of borderline pattern which are optional and may vary across time (WHO, 2023, 6D11.5).

A view of the self as inadequate, bad, guilty, disgusting, and contemptible

An experience of the self as profoundly different and isolated from other people; a painful sense of alienation and pervasive loneliness

Proneness to rejection hypersensitivity; problems in establishing and maintaining appropriate levels of trust in relationships; frequent misinterpretation of social signals

I'm fascinated by the number of adjectives in here. I simplified very slightly, as I did with the DSM criteria, but I had to keep all these adjectives. Anyway, I won't elaborate for too many more paragraphs, so let's say sentimonster moment and leave it at that. I will spare you my mirrored Félix essay. For now.

Qualifications and Limitations

First of all, Adrien is a teenager. The distinguishing factor between a personality disorder and regular adolescent difficulties would be longevity and identity concerns beyond his developmental phase (APA, 2022, p. 758). Second of all, Adrien has a uniquely terrible home life and magical problems. Some of his behaviors could be normal considering his experiences and sociocultural context, and this matters when it comes to psychological evaluation. Take everything with a grain of salt!

More generally, the categorical model of the DSM has several issues, not to mention diagnostic issues related to culture, gender, and stigma. Some but not all of these issues are addressed by the dimensional model it includes in a later section, which shares theoretical foundations with the model of personality disorders in the ICD. Even so, issues remain. Diagnosis, access to treatment, and political statements are intrinsically linked in complex ways. I won't get into all of the nuances, but be safe, remember this is a fictional character, and keep an open mind.

REFERENCES:

American Psychiatric Association. (2022). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed., text rev.). https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425787

Bach, B., Kramer, U., Doering, S., di Giacomo, E., Hutsebaut, J., Kaera, A., De Panfilis, C., Schmahl, C., Swales, M., Taubner, S., & Renneberg, B. (2022). The ICD-11 classification of personality disorders: A European perspective on challenges and opportunities. Borderline Personality Disorder and Emotion Dysregulation, 9(1). https://doi.org/10.1186/s40479-022-00182-0

Dozois, D. J. A. (2019). Abnormal psychology: Perspectives (6th ed.). Pearson.

Mind. (2022, September). What does BPD feel like? https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/borderline-personality-disorder-bpd/experiences-of-bpd/

National Health Service. (2022, November 4). Causes - Borderline personality disorder. https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/causes/

Swales, M. A. (2022). Personality disorder diagnoses in ICD-11: Transforming conceptualisations and practice. Clinical Psychology in Europe, 4(Special Issue). https://doi.org/10.32872/cpe.9635

World Health Organization. (2023). International statistical classification of diseases and related health problems (11th ed.). https://icd.who.int/

#miraculous ladybug #adrien agreste #ml meta #don't worry i read through far more sources than listed here #it's just standard citation procedure to include only in-text references and not readings for general subject comprehension #🌃 #🌖 #i'm using a hybrid parenthetical citation model which i think is most efficient and informative so just note this down #i can't believe i referenced kuro neko three times... what an episode #ml simon says #ml syren #ml anansi #ml sandboy #ml frozer #ml kuro neko #ml stoneheart #ml wishmaker #ml gamer 2.0 #ml lies #ml chat blanc #ml guiltrip #ml santa claws #ml glaciator 2 #ml glaciator #ml sentibubbler #ml hack san

[wilygryphon]

Inspired by a scene in @princess-of-the-corner/@cornerverse's Hero Chat (this chapter specifically).

Tigress (Juleka Couffaine) is hit by Wishmaker's spell and becomes what she wanted to be as a kid: a "Terrifying Vampire Pirate Queen". Pigella (Rose Lavillant) is starstruck, leaving her open to be hit as well and turned into Dr. Princess (who is a ballerina astronaut). Fortunately, Viperion (Luka Couffaine) reset everything so that Shadow Moth would not know their identities.

#miraculous ladybug #hero chat #juleka couffaine #rose lavillant #julerose #wishmaker #fanfiction fanart #mlbfemslashfebruary #my art

[another-miraculous-ladyblog]

I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ON LUKA AS A CHARACTER AFTER WISHMAKER AND I’M GONNA DUMP THEM HERE

Luka is such a cool character and he has been a rock for marinette when things got rough for her, but beyond just being a really good and supportive friend I’ve gotta say that if anyone was going to find out both ladybug and chat noir’s identities, luka was definitely the best person for the job. like Marinette better be happy she was basically stuck giving that boy the miraculous of the snake because he might actually be the only one who can handle that level of responsibility.

First of all, he’s ridiculously level-headed until it’s his friends or family who are threatened. I don’t think he’d be akumatized unless someone came directly after his family or friends instead of him- the dude’s ridiculously patient and even-keeled, and as we know from Silencer, a gentle soul. Still though, this guy handles the information of who ladybug and chat noir are ridiculously well.

Like ignoring the weight of the responsibility for a second, just look at how hard it’s got to be to keep his mouth shut on a frustration level- he’s got so much on his plate already and now he’s got to watch these two knuckleheads be the level of oblivious and awkward that they are as civilians knowing full well how close they are as superheroes and how in love both of them are with each other (without knowing it) with a patient smile? The frustration we feel from watching the love square? This boy is living it.

Plus we know from Truth just how important that honesty is to Luka- he values it so so highly and holds himself to such a high standard, but when ladybug asks him point blank to his face whether or not he found out their identities, he lies without hesitation. He literally says that they were never hit (side note: why would he have used second chance then? idk ladybug didn’t ask so she probably assumed something else went wrong or they got stuck since he did seem to let her know that they had used multiple chances so whatever).

He lied to this girl who he cares about so much and compromised his own principles so soon after them being emphasized in Truth without questioning it because he

1. obviously cares about marinette/ladybug and chat noir/adrien and wants to protect them but also

2. because he understands that the responsibility that has been given to him as Viperion has to come before his own principles for the greater good.

He takes his hero-ing seriously, which is what you need from someone who’s going to be given the ability to play with time and potentially be your last resort if everything else fails. He’s known this, but I think after having that responsibility really play out in this episode at the expense of his own principles, he probably understands Marinette and the pressure she was facing and the weight that comes with being a miraculous holder even better than before. He probably went home and rethought everything, especially what happened in Truth with Marinette.

And speaking of the RESPONSIBILITY? All that while trying to not get akumatized and not hint EVEN TO LADYBUG/MARINETTE HERSELF (his friend and the guardian who trusted him with that miraculous) that he knows her identity or chat noir’s? And not hint that they really know each other in real life? And not slip at all even though he hangs out with both of them as civilians all the time?

Like he’s just gonna sit on that information and that responsibility of being the only person in Paris who knows both of their identities and not physically implode from the stress or tell anyone? Knowing that if anyone finds out he will become Shadow Moth’s number 1 target? But he won’t jeopardize his friends by even letting marinette know that he knows so he can talk to someone about it? Like I know he isn’t getting paid but someone get this boy a raise 😭

#he’s not paid enough for this shit #all these children have too much responsibility but this child is insane #I’d start twitching having to watch Marinette fall all over Adrien and then be cool and confident as she rejects chat noir #same for if I had to watch adrien’s oblivious ass ignore marinette as he makes heart eyes at ladybug #the patience on this child #too much responsibility I might implode #I’d have to tell her because I wouldn’t trust myself to know how to handle that without discussing it #it was a bold move on his part really to not tell her he knew #luka couffaine #mlb luka #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous ladybug #ladybug #mlb marinette #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #mlb adrien #chat noir #mlb spoilers season 4 #mlb season 4 #mlb season four #wishmaker #mlb wishmaker #lukanette #character analysis #mlb character analysis #Luka character analysis #my thoughts

[crafter273]

Knitting fairy dress

I finally completed my first official knitting project(first to start last to complete)!!!

Story:

This project was inspired by the episode Wishmaker, where Marinette wears a knitting fairy dress

And i , being on a randomly generated creative whim, decided to make this dress despite not knowing how to knit

Anyway, 10 months later i learnt the basics of knit, purl, and vaguely about increasing stitches and i start casting on

Wip pics here:

Image id= pictures of a pink colored sweater body with reddish pink ribbing , along with 4 pictures of light pink colored sleeves, all in various stages of completion

image id= a light pink colored sweater with dark reddish pink ribbing at bottom, bell sleeves and a thin reddish collar

Took 2 years to complete, but really only 3 months of persistent knitting and some on off knitting during the years

Anywaay, now i get to move on to other smaller projects!!

#knitting #crochet #yarn crafts #miraculous tales of ladybug and cat noir #miraculous ladybug #miraculous fanart #miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir #miraculous lb #chat noir #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #ml ladybug #miraculous #knitting fairy #fiber crafts #wishmaker #my projects

[lawfullyneutralbee]

Miraculous Awakening Spoilers!

Yuh anyways

The biggest change they did in this movie is honestly giving Gabriel Agreste compassion. BC LITERALLY he gave up the fight the minute he realized he was fighting his son.

Meanwhile in show literally every time he’s realized it’s Adrien:

And they literally just gave him a human reaction, like a good father who actually likes his child reaction. I’m still not over what happened in Wishmaker bc what was

“MY SONN????”

#miraculous ladybug #chat noir #ml spoilers #miraculous awakening #miraculous awakening spoilers #wishmaker #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste

[piromina]

I dont get Luka haters. Like, the guy almost managed to get one full SEASON with the knowledge of the Love Square without going insane. That's an ACCOMPLISHMENT. That is some TALENTED SKILL there. Like, he was five episodes away from a SEASON. I seriously do not think that anyone in our fandom has done THAT. Me, I was craving a reveal after the FIRST EPISODE. And Luka over here like, 'oh yea my friends are loving each other in circles? and its rly annoying? not my problem, ill just be the Therapist Friend over here for a while, stay out of it' AND LIKE HE WAS GOOD. HE WAS GOOD AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW HE MANAGED TO KEEP HIS COOL WITH THOSE TWO BEING LIKE THAT. Like of course they got to him eventually, and it resulted in him moving to Brazil just to escape them, buuuut... LIKE STOP HATING ON THIS GUY. HE IS PRECIOUS. PRECIOUS I TELL YOU.

#luka couffaine #miraculous ladybug #ml wishmaker #ml migration #miraculous ladybug love square

[luka-candids]

For @airi-p4 

Power Couple, right? 

#airipf #these gifs are very big so idk if they'll load #but i also have a photo version w some more couple stuff #luka couffaine #lukanette #gif #gifset #lukabug #miraculous ladybug #silencer #wishmaker #penalteam #frighteninggale

[raining-dreams]

Best Chloé Bourgeois Quotes

Pizza? Blegh! Don't get that peasant food anywhere near me!

No, excuse me but you are trying to steal my friend from me, with homework!

Make it sound purrrrfect for my presentation. See what I did there? I made a cat joke. Ah! I can be funny!

My locker is my secret garden! He who enters uninvited burglarizes my inner being and steals my life force!

"Boo-hoo-hoo! I'm so sorry, miss, but after what happened in the library, I simply couldn't work on my project! It would've been too… traumatic! Just look what it's done to my… my… hair!" …Oh, please. Who's going to believe that?!

(Kim: How about a dance with an awesome guy?) I'd love it. Where is he?

I already know what I wanna be when school is over, rich, because I'm already rich.

(And last but not least....)

Ridiculous utterly ridiculous!

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous tales of ladybug and cat noir #mlb #chloé bourgeois #ml chloe #best quotes #princess fragrance #evillustrator #lady wifi #despair bear #wishmaker

[rainbow-arrow]

focusing on luka during this line was a Choice they made.

#luka couffaine #mlb perfection #miraculous ladybug #mlb #this is both a #lukadrien #post #but also a 'something very bad is going to happen to luka couffaine' post #lukanette stans may also relate #it's also funny bc he was silencer lol #i have a Whole essay and this is just one of six scenes i gotta analyze #when's this dub coming hnnnnn #the MELODY TALK THO #no wonder luka read it and was like 'oh fuckin hell yes u listened to me in wishmaker' #mlb season 5 spoilers #ml season 5 spoilers

[masternia]

I just KNOW Luka has been going insane since wishmaker til migration

#miraculous ladybug #mlb s5 spoilers #mlb spoilers #luka couffaine #mlb ladynoir #ml adrienette #migration spoilers #wishmaker

[papyrusgayfont]

* Oh hey the line where Marinette says winter inspires her has extra meaning now, given the new info that she wanted to knit the Eiffel Tower a hat when she was little to protect it from the snow, so that’s how she got into fashion and designing

* it also ties into her wanting to be the knitting fairy

#miraculous ladybug #tales of ladybug and cat noir #miraculous #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #marinette #marinette dupain cheng #kagami tsurugi #ikari gozen #wishmaker #ladybug #cat noir #chat noir #knitting fairy #I like noticing things like this

[etherealworm]

Literally what, I'm in a bathroom stall at Red Robin and I can hear wishmaker playing???? Help me????

#miraculous lb #miraculous ladybug #wishmaker #adrien agreste #miraculous ladybug and the adventures of chat noir #marinette dupain cheng #chat noir #ladybug #lukka coffaine

[peachy-lemon83]

I’m gonna say it right now Wishmaker was pure Lukadrienette food, and I love it. A nice lost Marinette and Adrien, with Luka helping them find some kind of path. Them Luka pushing them both into a hiding spot, and then being saved, and then him saving his dad. Luka pushing Char away from the beam ;-; (also for everyone being like “Chat was told to duck and just stood there” man was 100% thinking about getting hit. He doesn’t remember what he wanted to be and damn he wanted that answer so bad) Gosh my heart can’t take this fluff, and then crushed by the weight of the angst later on ;-;

We don’t need to talk about the issue that is Chats childhood dream. My god. (Tho tbh that kind of adds a lot for the sentiadrien theory)

Sidenote: why haven’t we gotten Luka helping Marinette/Adrien get away during an akuma attack. Maybe giving Adrien advice for something he needs as Chat (but like subtly). I need them to do more then just use this for the love hexagon? Octagon??? Idk what it is at this point.

If we only see Luka knowing this for shipping purposes I’m gonna be so salty. There needs to be something else. Honestly using it for just shipping purposes is such a waste!! Not to mention Adrien still needs someone he can talk to about secret identity stuff, along with both Chat and Adrien stuff. This is probably a stretch tbh but I’d really like Luka to be that person!!

#miraculous luka #miraculous adrien #miraculous adventures of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous #miraculous chat noir #miraculous lb #miraculous ladybug #miraculous viperion #wishmaker #lukadrienette #Lukanette #lukadrien #lukadrigaminette #love square #hexagon #octagon?