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janehaster · 2 years

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About Kris being the Knight and Asriel's role in the final battle

An interesting thing about Deltarune is how roles seem to be somehow swapped in relation to Undertale. Alphys is still related to science, what with being a teacher and all, Undyne is still related to the role of a guardian and keeping people safe in general, Asgore still loves gardens and is a fluffybun, despite Toriel FINALLY getting her role as a teacher, she is still the protective mother figure...

Everyone is still in their "original roles", only slightly swapped to fit Deltarune's new reality. And the same reasoning can be applied to Kris and Asriel...only this time things do seem a lot more different.

In Undertale, the one creature causing all sorts of trouble in the background and setting events in motion in the game is Gaster Flowey. Yes, he's the one who whispers predictions to Papyrus, the one who warns Muffet about your arrival to Hotlands, who writes the threatening letter to Alphys and unlocks the True Lab for the player to visit, that is to say, the hidden hand behind (almost) everything, interfering with the natural flow of the game to make sure they get things to evolve according to HIS way and try to beat the Player's Determination, which is supposed to be unbeatable.

So he's the agent warping the world according to his will and playing the role of a villain.

In Deltarune, who is now playing that role? Who is setting events in motion and causing trouble to our heroes - Susie, Berdly, Noelle, etc - behind the scenes?

That's right. Asriel's best friend from Undertale, now given a new identity. None other than Kris.

Which makes me think the prophesized saviour in the Darkner's tale won't be Kris -who has readily been identified as the Villain -... but possibly Asriel upon their return.

Doesn't Asriel turn into an Angel when summoning the seven SOULS? This hints at him being the prophesized Angel and a being capable of great destruction...or in DR's case, of miraculous deeds, such as being the only one capable of wielding formidable power and becoming the true Saviour of the World.

It's quite possible that, should Kris opt to follow the Genocide route or fail to prevent a Darkner from stealing a human SOUL and traveling to the Light World, he'll accidentally create a Titan and unleash the Roaring in the process. Asriel then returns from college in the seventh day to find his home town destroyed and everything covered in Darkness. Should Kris lose his friends because he chose Genocide, Asriel becomes the hero that fights him and "banishes the Angel's Heaven" (that part of the prophecy still doesn't make any sense). But should Kris follow the pacifist path, Asriel may team up with him to help defeat the Titan.

There's also the possibility that Asriel may have to fight his brother if Kris decides he wants the Light World to remain covered in Darkness and Asriel must fight him alongside Susie and the others to defeat the Knight so that they may bring down the Titans.

Of course, there are many more possibilities for how the story will go down. It might be another Lightner that becomes the Knight, such as Berdly or Susie - or even all our heroes may opt to open fountains and doom the Light World -, but for now, Kris is still the likely candidate to become the Knight and the Final Boss in the game. People may speculate Susie will then assume the role of the hero, but if we are considering Deltarune and Undertale to be mirror universes, then Susie isn't the Knight's antithesis, since she's absent from Undertale. That role is more suited to Asriel, who has a deep, strong connection to The (Fallen) Human, a connection usually fully revealed at the end of the game. While The Human is the Hero and Asriel is the Villain in UT, in DR their roles might be swapped. Let's wait and see.

With that said, I'd like to remind you this is all mere speculation and the truth is still a long ways to be revealed. Let us hope Chapters 3 and 4 will bring some answers and help us make sense of UT and DR's strange universe.

#deltarune #deltarune theory #asriel #deltarune kris #the roaring #trying to make sense of all this #toby fox wtf #i'll reach 90 without understanding wtf is going on #and what about gaster #where tf is he #what even IS he #no he's not sans' dad #stop that #seriously is he even a skeleton

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alpacacare-archive · 5 months

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the brainworms are kiiling me. have a dad and son 👍︎

#papyrus #gaster #dadster #undertale #theres still not enough papyrus and dadster content where sans isnt present compared to the other way around #what will be enough you ask? well idk the exact amount cus numbers are infinite but yaknow #gaster supports let papyrus say fuck day #i believe he just sucks at parenting so papyrus cussed his whole life #and since gaster found out about the holiday papyrus has been nothing but encouraged by his dad #mostly out of spite towards the people who still believe his son to be 5 years old #im sorry i saw someone refer to papyrus as a prec**s cin***on ro*l and had to do something #my shoulder hurts so bad and drawing and typing worsens it and i have an exam tommorow i need to rest it for and look what im doing.#being silly.#>:[

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somegrumpynerd · 1 month

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@pigeonstab I finally got some motivation in me so it's time to extend Cross's misery lol

Also I had a bonus thought while drawing this:

Nobody understands what he's going through

#UTDR #UTMV #My Art #Pigeonstab #Cross Sans #Nightmare Sans #I need to sleep for work tomorrow but I think this was worth it lol #Poor guy can't get a break #He's the only one who remembers/ had a dad and his dad is the worst #One of them needs to get him headphones for his birthday #Or maybe Nightmare takes him down to the dungeon levels and sets up a lil speaker #Like ''this can be your screaming room if you would like to do so in peace''

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omi-boshi · 20 days

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"you gotta let me go, lovebug." kiyoomi rumbles, attempting to gently wiggle out of your baby's grasp. the lovebug in question only gurgles, happy to have her father's attention on her. it quirks a smile on kiyoomi's face. his amusement is short-lived, however, when the grip on his finger seemingly tightens in response and tightens even more when he wiggles just a tad harder.

his rising panic amuses you to no end.

at the sound of your quiet giggles, kiyoomi looks up from the baby cradled in your arms and looks you in the eye.

"a little help would be nice, you know?" he frowns. "our food's gonna be here any minute."

"i would love to but there's nothing i can really do when she's clinging like that, kiyo." you send him the most sympathetic smile you could muster with the laughter still bubbling up your throat. "you know how she gets."

and kiyoomi does—he really does. your daughter got it from you, after all.

#just wanted to write smth short and sweet where kiyoomi calls his kid lovebug #i'm still pretty deep into my girl dad kiyoomi hcs.........;;;;#i just think he'd be the best dad :(#like he would try so hard to make sure he does right by you and your daughter SOBS;;#sakusa kiyoomi #sakusa x reader #san's blobs

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zu-is-here · 1 year

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welp

#zu art #comic #star sanses #ink!sans #dream!sans #us!sans #swap!sans #underswap!sans #cross!sans #error!sans #undertale #undertale au #utmv #meme #if you want to know how chaotic my drawings are: I drew this back in December and just /forgor/ about it. :'D #we don't talk about Dream & Swap being the same body type no no~ ;D #I believe that Swap is (was) the only one in their team who kept them under control as Dream is too soft & Ink is generally careless :'D #he's not being hard on them tho; just talking straight (ò_ó )#like a Dad with two teenagers?? XD

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sandeewithtwoe · 3 months

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Happy Valentines Day! Ink is asking Broomie on a date

Ink belongs to comyet/myebi

(Version without bubble text below cut)

#art #utmv #ink sans #ink x broomie #they got married the same night #everyone was invited #Reaper was the pastor #ink probably ate his ring #his dads were confused but very proud also #i still think is ink is aroace #but specifically cupioromantic and asexual #dating Broomie was supposed to be a joke but then he took a step further and married it

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sysig · 4 months

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Two skeletons in a trench lab coat (Patreon)

Bonus:

He’s very careful! Everything was fine before you interrupted!

#Doodles #Handplates #UT #FJdlsafjdsf Handplates fuzzes my brain #I cannot tell you how weird it feels to draw Gaster with the Lost Soul head after all this time away haha #It drops me back into the person I was when I first read Handplates - for better or for worse. It's a very strange feeling #Even drawing Sans and Papyrus again sends me back! Not as strongly but certain little details stand out #Sans' eyes especially... Very strange feeling #Anyhow! Since Fellplates sent me back down the rabbit hole and I've gotten back into rereading lightly - still not a full commitment!#Maybe soon tho 👀 I feel like I always say that haha #But in the meantime thinking of the pre-Plates Handplates time period <3 Since that's the one I'm still most familiar with haha #I love when they're still growing and learning ♪ Scaffolded baby talk! Twin language! Love 'em ♥#And fearless* mischievous little troublemakers hehe #They're so cute <3 I love the little ways they interact as young'uns - like when Papyrus will just lift Sans by his arms lol #I'd been thinking about and then had to go read the one of Sans as a the blanket/coat tickle monster and then - this ✨#''Excuse me sir I'd like One Ticket to the R Rated movie I am an adult Monster'' lol #Probably another one of those moments where Gaster is just *nervously sweats in Dad* lol - stop being so cute!#Also there's no particular meaning to when I use WingDings for his text :P Just convenience and if I remember to lol #Comics where he talks a lot are not convenient XP I have enough trouble editing on this paper ugh I will Not miss it when it's done #Even attempted this comic in as few pencil strokes/erasing as possible and it was still a pain to work with! >:0 Rude #Doubly so that I've had a Handplates comic idea for past like - year lol - and /this/ was the first one I finished pfftbl #To be fair to the other I do want to at least attempt making it a look-alike hehe ♪ You know how it is with Ideas™#I can't be too mad about it haha ♫ It did turn out quite cute after all :3

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dimeadozencows · 4 months

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I have endured what no one on earth has ever done before

I put my lips to the hands of the man who killed my son

#deltarune #gaster #deltarune player #i love still headcanoning gaster as sans and papyrus's dad despite knowing that he saw everything that happened in undertale (including #the no mercy route) and seeing how friendly he is with us in deltarune #you would think he'd hate us and want do nothing to do with us or to hurt us but. he wants to create a new future with us.#he thinks that our search for him is a wonderful thing. he thinks we created a wonderful form. hes thankful for our time.#knowing this while still believing he's the father of characters we've killed makes him such an interesting character #we know he's tied to undertale so regardless of if he's actually their dad or not we have hurt people he knows #and he still treats us with so much care #i love this guy. i wanna know him already #this was fully inspired by a gorgeous drawing by WolfyTheWitch on twitter #of. actual priam jskdjdk #this was drawn using my poor poor pilot pens during classes over three days. i need to buy new ones now lol #i need to use this technique more often #its super time consuming but it looks so cool. and the paper has such an interesting texture now :]]]#i also LOVE drawing gasters hands all melting and barely even like hands #and brown paper packages tied up with string #my art #*i edited this a bit in digital i forgot to mention that gdjdjfk

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juniemunie · 1 month

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Wait, for real!?!?!?!👀

Yep yep! Ink has two dads, and one of them is Zephyr!Gaster or Aster. He's super adorable, you should check out his FAQ!

Ink and his other dad (Undertop!Gaster) teaches him about the Multiverse and on the other hand Aster teaches Ink to enjoy things (machinery, blueprints, astrophysics) that don't rely on his inky creation powers!

Ink does some other non paint stuff too, he plays the flute for one and iirc, he is trying sewing, which is why I made my variant of him get into embroidery

( > 〰 < )♡

#im too tired to draw anything on that paper and im no blueprint expert so. feel free to imagine whatever they are building and talking about #maybe hes letting ink try and make his own machine! and giving him a blank paper to start #i love seeing lineless but making one is an oof #i love em either way tho #junie art post #ink sans #inktale sans #zephyrtale #zt!gaster #IVE FINALLY DRAWN ONE OF THE DADS YIPEE #utmv

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cakesmelons · 8 months

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the grandparents are babysitting!!! :D

why won't their kid please stop having kids..... :'D

Zephyrtale Gaster (Ink's dad) @ comyet

Undertop Gaster (Ink's dad) @ stylincheetah

Gradient @ askcomboclub

Palette @ lasserbatsu

Blueprint @ pepper-mint

Sterling @ dreemurr-skelememer

Paperjam @ 7goodangel

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shima-draws · 2 months

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I’ve mentioned it before but I’m a fucking sucker for unhealthy dependent relationships. There’s just something about them that is so. Chef’s kiss 👌

Anyway I’m still thinking about how Law was so attached to Cora and was so traumatized by his death that he literally devoted thirteen YEARS of his life to revenge killing Doflamingo. Even though all Cora ever wanted was for Law to just be free and live his life happily. And Law spending all his time in a hateful revenge spiral is literally the exact OPPOSITE of what Cora wanted for him. BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE. If the thirteen years of endless devotion to avenging his savior wasn’t enough Law 1. Named his pirate crew the Heart Pirates in honor of Cora, 2. Covered himself in permanent heart-themed tattoos in honor of Cora, and 3. Fashioned his Jolly Roger to be a mockery of Doflamingo’s and ALSO to honor Cora. Homie is a walking memorial for a man he only really knew for six months and again crafted the most intricate plan known to mankind to murder Cora’s killer. Because losing Cora fucked him up THAT much. Because even though Cora set him free, the moment Doflamingo shot him Law was chained to the memory of a man who no longer existed. Law literally fashioned his entire life down to his own appearance after Cora and it makes me so insane. I cannot even imagine what went through his head after Dressrosa I mean how do you move on after a thirteen year grudge is put to rest. What is he supposed to do now. Avenging Cora was literally his entire existence, his entire reason for living for half of his life. He needs therapy probably. If Cora somehow ever did come back to life Law would lose his fucking mind. The dependency is SO unhealthy and I am SO here for it