#proship tag

[senseichaos]

@shenbunine

Here is an angel one! Thank you for the support,

#proship #senseichaos #antishippers dni #senseichaosdrabbles #proship fanfiction #hazbin hotel #angel dust #angeldust #angel dust hazbin hotel #hazbin angel #hazbin hotel proshipper #proshipper #proship tag

[lazaruspiss]

People know that the whole "don't portray [harmful action] because viewers might recreate it" thing is a rule for children's shows right? It's supposed to be shit like "don't show peppa pig playing with fire so we don't get sued if a kid watches it and burns their house down." Not like, fanfiction for adults.

Edit: this was me venting about fandom cops. not me making some nuanced hot take. don't be weird in my comments.

Edit 2: turning off notifications. PSA: do not use pet names for strangers, especially not without asking. it's creepy.

#ramble tag #proship #adding that so that the types who would have that blacklisted dont try to talk to me

[soopsiedaisies]

this is for those who despair over seeing ships or tropes that make them uncomfortable while they do their little scrolly-scroll on ao3, acting like they aren’t responsible for their own internet experience

(alternatively, the back button also works)

#ao3 #fanfiction #fandom #‘but seeing that makes me uncomfortable!’ THEN EXCLUDE THE TAGS #it’s intuitive!! it is simple!! PLEASE STOP upsetting yourself #proship

[infectbait]

hey im entirely unrelated to whatevers going on there but sorry for you having to put up with assholes

no its fine!! you are so sweet but honestly this is literally no bother to me at all

#like a 21 year old just called me 'child' as some sort of mega proship own #i live getting the notifs i be kicking and squealing on my bed laughing #proship tag #ask #anon

[crimson-rain-smoked-flower]

I’m not trying to attack you, but do you know that proshipper means someone who supports and romanticizes pedophilia, incest, and abuse? Your reblog on that post seems to read that you think antis just hate on people for having ships they don’t like. But it’s completely different than that. Just looking on the proshipper side of Tumblr and the internet and you can see people happily shipping children and adults and making nsfw content of such things.

i appreciate that you're not being outright hostile, but i have to say, that on its own put you above basically every anti i've interacted with.

i understand where antis are coming from, i really do. there are a lot of things on the internet that make me deeply uncomfortable, including the minor/adult ships that you mention. i don't want to anything to do with those kinds of ships and i would be happiest if i never saw them again. which is why i'm proship.

nine times out of ten, if i see that kind of ship brought up on my dash, it's because i was following an anti without realizing it, and they brought it up unprompted and untagged, to talk about how bad it is that they exist. they are the ones putting that kind of content in front of my face and making it harder to avoid.

the thing about people who ship those ships is that they're generally very aware that not everyone wants to see that kind of content, and so they tag it. they make sideblogs to talk about it. they don't go out of their way to shove it in people's faces. that means i, and everyone else who doesn't like it, can avoid it.

what antis want is for it to not exist at all. they want the tags to be purged and blocked, and for anyone who uses those tags to have their accounts deleted. and sure, that might get rid of some of it, but do you know what would happen to the rest? it would stop being tagged. people who don't want to see it wouldn't have the tools to avoid it. this isn't just a hypothetical, that's what's happened any time a fan space has tried to do that.

that's not even getting into the rabbit hole of what should be banned and what shouldn't. obviously any content that depicts real children or real life abuse shouldn't exist and shouldn't be allowed to be posted, but basically any platform that people use already enforces those policies, and there's not much of a slippery slope to go down there. if it involves real living breathing people being abused, it's bad. end of discussion.

but the same can't be said for fiction. ask ten antis for a specific list of all the content that should be banned, and you'll get ten different answers. what about kink? what about roleplay? what about horror and murder and anything that involves fictional characters being graphically tortured? what about people using art to process terrible things that have happened to them? what about art that uses dark themes as a horror element? if you just want to ban anything questionable to anyone, that's the line of thinking that gets any mention of lgbt existence banned. and again, this isn't just a hypothetical, this has happened before, and that's generally where it leads.

i know, from personal experience, that antis do, in fact, send harassment to people just for shipping things they don't like. i've gotten accused of absolutely vile shit for shipping two fictional characters who were both consenting adults. i've seen ship wars turn into moral battlegrounds, over ships that an average person wouldn't bat an eye at.

the thing about "romanticization" is a whole other can of worms. the anti logic goes like this: if someone sees something (even if it's very obviously fictional) in a positive light enough times, they will start thinking it's okay in real life, and go on to hurt real people. the problem with that is that it's just. blatantly untrue.

if it were true every horror movie fan would be a serial killer, every person that studies dark media would be an unhinged psychopath, and everyone who is into ddlg would be a pedophile. but they're not. they just aren't. people have directed movies just as fucked up as the darkest shit on ao3, and are still capable of being normal human beings who know right from wrong in real life.

even if someone is that impressionable, scrubbing away the existence of every piece of questionable content isn't going to solve their problem, because they're still going to be vulnerable to con men, scams, and cultists. the only thing that would actually materially help someone like that is developing their own morals and critical thinking.

children are also more impressionable, and there's a lot of content that's not suitable for them, but that doesn't mean that content shouldn't exist. it just means that they should stick to spaces designed for them (which most social media sites, tumblr included, are not) or, if they're old enough to be responsible for their experience online, they, or a trusted adult in their lives, should block and filter out things that they aren't comfortable with.

which is what everyone on the internet should be doing. it's what i do, and it's made the internet a much more pleasant place to be. and it's why i sometimes worry for antis mental health, especially teenagers, because they're being told it's right and moral to seek out content that makes them uncomfortable and to engage with the people making it. and that's just. really bad. it's not good for the creators that they're harassing obviously, but it's also really bad for them! it's not healthy to seek out things that make you feel bad, and it's a terrible internet safety lesson to teach minors that it's okay for them to seek out and engage with people making adult content.

individual harassment and crusading is never going to succeed at removing dark content from the internet. it just isn't. at best you might get a small percentage of people who create that content to stop sharing it, at worst you're just going to make people stop tagging it, and either way, you're exposing yourself to things that make you feel bad, when you don't have to.

if you want to materially change the type of content you see, you can. the block button is your friend, use it liberally. same with content filtering and tag blocking.

#oops this got really long #cd.ask #proship #disk horse #tw pedophila mention #uhhh what to tag #tw shipping discourse #this doesn't even get into the antis that i've seen proudly professing that they care more about fictional characters than real people #because i don't know how to explain to someone that real humans matter more than cartoon characters #or how to avoid content on platforms other than tumblr bc frankly thats a lot of the reason i don't use them #i don't trust an algorithm #also im turning anon off after posting this so if you want to send me hate you cant be a coward about it #also be prepared to get blocked and ignored #the only reason i answered this person is bc they weren't being hostile

[dilutedbeanibeans]

umm!!!! I dont think that’s normal!!!!

#proship D N FUCKING I #I’m not a weirdo #he’s a teen #Anyways #I love them #rent free in my brain #Punkflower #miles morales #hobie brown #spider punk #spider man #spiderman #across the spiderverse #atsv art #atsv #not a art tag

[noa-ciharu]

If you don't have at least one ship that would make a 15yo puritan tiktoker in progressive gay hat throw their shit are you even living

#fandom ships #shipping #i guess i should tag this as #proship #but i honestly dislike all labels esp that one #cuz that's just default healthy fandom mindset: ship your thing and dgaf what others do

[senseichaos]

A bit more creative with this one !!

#proship #senseichaos #antishippers dni #senseichaosdrabbles #proship fanfiction #hazbin hotel #hazbin rosie #hazbin hotel proshippers #proship tag #rosie hazbin

[myfandomrealitea]

Pre-emptively blocking people is good for everyone.

Seriously. The amount of times I see people whining or laughing about being blocked when they 'haven't even done anything' just tells me that not many of you know its actually a really good way to properly curate your online space, and its not something to be offended over.

Blocking is a form of protection. Its also a form of mutual protection.

Especially on websites that don't offer more extensive or usable filtering, tagging and avoidance options. Twitter, for example.

Blocking isn't some personal insult. Its a method of saying; hey, we clearly shouldn't interact, so I'm gonna build this soundproof wall between us to make sure we can't.

To use The Salmon Analogy, if I run a restaurant based on salmon as the main ingredient, and you're allergic or or severely dislike salmon, me refusing to serve you isn't a personal sleight. Its me recognising that you can't or really don't want to eat salmon, and its me protecting you from an unpleasant experience and myself from you inevitably screaming at me for serving salmon.

If you are someone who enjoys 'objectionable' content, such as gore, and you stumble across an extremely anti-gore blog, its absolutely a viable option to pre-emptively block them. Maybe your paths never would've crossed, but its better to ensure they don't than potentially wind up the victim or hate or harassment.

Blocking is an absolute sure-fire way to ensure that you do not see something you do not want to. It should be used as liberally as you want to.

#sephiroth speaks #myfandomrealitea #fandom #not discourse #proship #proshipping #reality #blocking #blocking blogs #blogs #tags #tagging #pro blocking #online curation #the salmon analogy #the salmon is a metaphor

[dastardly-crows]

my reaction to seeing people compare the real and horrifying reality of childhood SA and violence to fictional characters who will never experience pain or emotion:

#tags for reach #tw vent #vent post #tw child abuse #tw childhood trauma #sa mention #sa tw #tw sa mention #proshitter #proship #fuck antishippers #fuck antis

[proficshy]

I guess I’m old by internet standards, so allow me to offer the best piece of advice I was given about navigating online spaces as a wee child:

People are going to post things you don’t like, and there’s nothing you can do about it. 

The world doesn’t revolve around you, and you can’t just magically make everything on the internet cater to your needs specifically. Block people, avoid sites, and never trust anyone you haven’t talked to personally. 

Safe to say, it’s advice that I’ve kept with me a lot in the past 15 years I’ve been able to use computers. 

#fluttershy talks #ask to tag #proship #profic #antis dni #this advice brought to you by being like 6 when jumpscare videos on youtube were super common #never getting that innocence back

[intotheelliwoods]

Little PSA

#no #seriously #its none of my business what kind of art other people make #and I am not going to hunt you for sport or harass or police or block you for whatever you like to do #this goes for tcest #proship stuff #whatever other labels you guys have?? #I dont know them all but seriously. I dont care #long as you guys tag your stuff properly and dont interpret my stuff as something it is not then by all means enjoy yourself #and kudos to you for being brave enough to share your individual and unique stories #if you unfollow me and slap a label on me or whatever after this post #by all means go for it #but then can you return back to twitter please? #anyways enjoy the fma meme redraw

[shrimpmandan]

Legit I think the reason why so many indie fandoms end up so fucking rancid so quickly is because you people are TERRIFIED of consuming anything on your own terms. In trying your hardest to "respect creator boundaries" you VIOLATE them by badgering them about things like ships and NSFW content which they can't control the existence of, and by constantly asking them loaded questions about what you're "allowed" to do.

Guess what? You can do literally anything you want. The bottom line is you don't involve the creator in it. Sure, yes, some creators like to be involved in their fandoms, but that's them bringing THEMSELVES into it, not the fandom thrusting itself onto them in a desperate plea for validation. Stop asking creators for validation. Stop showing them potentially triggering content to ask how they feel about it. Stop white knighting for them because you've taken it upon yourself to assert a boundary on their behalf. S T O P I T .

#proship #profiction #pro fic #pro ship #proshipper #proshipping #just tagging with these i guess because im NOT fucking touching any of the fandoms I'm referring to. they are all awful and annoying.