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i-merani · 1 year
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My favorite loserboys (in no particular order):
Raskolnikov
Hamlet
Soames Forsyte (the first fictional man I found pathetic <3)
Kendall Roy
Tom Wombsgans (yeah two succession boys, love Roman too but these two are hard to beat)
Honorary mention: Franz Kafka
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thisbluespirit · 2 years
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Irene!  His divorced wife - Irene!  And this, no doubt, was her son - by that fellow Jolyon Forsyte - their boy, six months older than his own girl...  Grudgingly he admitted her still beautiful, and in figure almost as young as ever.  And how that boy smiled back at her!  ... He grudged her that boy’s smile - it went beyond what Fleur gave him, and it was undeserved.  Their son might have been his son; Fleur might have been her daughter, if she had played straight! 
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frimleyblogger · 1 year
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Swan Song – A Modern Comedy
A tempestuous love affair and a tragi-comic demise concludes the A Modern Comedy trilogy by John Galsworthy #ForsyteSaga #amreading
A review of Swan Song by John Galsworthy Originally published in 1928, Swan Song is the third in Galsworthy’s A Modern Comedy trilogy. While it, just about, stands on its own merits, to get the most out of the book the reader should read the first two books in the trilogy and, especially, the interlude, Passers-By, which he wrote in 1927. In that, Soames takes his daughter, Fleur, along with her…
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aleksakonstanta · 9 months
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2002/1966
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mercurygray · 2 months
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Merc, what kind of Historical Military Man gets the wheels turning for you? What are the markers of 'Oh, that one, that one is now mine'?
Nat, I'm going to be honest, this question provoked something of an existential crisis. so I went back through, like, 20 years of fandom favorites to see if there's a pattern.
Spoiler: there isn't, apart from a perennial need to be different. This is kind of long .
2001 (ish) - Lord of the Rings is coming out, and you are either a Legolas or Aragorn girl. I am deep in my 'not like the other girls' phase and decide Boromir is actually the superior choice here. (This leads me to watch A LOT of period dramas that are probably not appropriate for for me at this age, including Clarissa and Lady Chatterley's Lover.) It also leads me to the Sharpe books, which are great and awesome. Richard Sharpe doesn't necessarily do anything for me as a character, but that gets me into Hornblower, which gets me into the Aubreyad, which leads me to read a lot about the Napoleonic Wars in high school. Cliff-diving into a different historical period is now something I do every single summer.
I also spend about 5 years (2008-2013) writing a 225,000 word fanfic in which Boromir doesn't die.
2010-2015
Matthew Crawley (Dan Stevens) is really only in the army a brief while but who can say no to the blue eyes and the absolute vibe he has going with Mary?
During the Downton phase I decide to raid the library for other period dramas, again, and watch The Forsyte Saga. Soames Forsyte is not a man you love, but Damian Lewis has A Face and I know he was on Band of Brothers, which the library perennially never has a copy of.
2011
I finally watch Band of Brothers in its entirety my senior year of college and am a little disappointed I appear to be missing large parts of the story. (Future rewatches will explain that this is actually a feature of the show, not a bug.) My recollections of this are hazy, but I'm fairly certain my favorite character the first time I watched this was Lewis Nixon (Ron Livingston). He's dark-haired, he's funny, he's an absolute mess with a trust fund. Dick Winters (Damian Lewis) also has one hell of a face. He's a red-head, he's in charge of everyone else, he doesn't say much, and he is tall. I know there must be fic for this show but am also very, very sure it is shippy in a direction I do not want to read, so I do not go looking for it.
TURN - 2014-2017
Ben Tallmadge (Seth Numrich) is the guy to watch on TURN: he's a lieutenant, he's tall, he struggles with rules, but the entire fandom is also crazy about him and the leading queen bee in the OC end of that fandom is a real pain about it, so I decide I will not be writing for him no matter what it costs me to hold off admitting I want to. However, in the next episode we meet his best friend, Caleb Brewster (Daniel Henshall) who is short, bearded, dark-haired and chaotic. The moment he comes onscreen I love him. Sadly, no one is reading fic for him and this project is abandoned.
In Season 3, we meet the Marquis de Lafayette. Historical Lafayette is a tall, awkward redhead in need of a father figure who makes up for war experience with boundless enthusiasm. His letters home are adorable. Show Lafayette (Ben Wiles) is tall and enthusiastic. I love him anyway and I make it everyone's problem for, like, a year.
2016-2017 - Mercy Street
Henry Hopkins (Luke Macfarlane) is a military chaplain in a hotel-turned Union hospital in Alexandria, Virginia. He's tall, he's a little tortured, and he has a knack for putting others first. Wrestling with some past choices, his romance with Emma Green, the privileged daughter of the family who owned the hotel, is sweet and full of pining. I write so much fix-it fic for them it's not even funny. (I love this show because the female characters I love come pre-installed. Please watch this.)
2016 - Dunkirk
I see this movie three times in theaters and love it more each time. Collins (Jack Lowden) is a blonde RAF flyboy with a very adorable face. (Tom Glynn Carney is also a face I like but he's on a backburner for a bit.) I write a lot of fic about it and affectionately refer to this as my first Planes Go Zoom phase.
2020
Two weeks into the pandemic I decide rewatching Band of Brothers is a good idea and buy the book and the DVD set from my local secondhand bookshop like I am doing a drug deal in a parking lot. Two weeks after that I am writing a fanfic for Dick Winters (Damian Lewis) because I am a loon who likes men in charge and painfully slow burns.
2021
Still in the middle of a pandemic I decide to watch The Pacific, because I make good decisions, apparently. Hoosier Smith (Jacob Pitts) is a taciturn, wise-cracking friend of Leckie's who is joked about as being the pretty one. He is. Andrew Haldane (Scott Gibson) is quiet, unassuming, and in charge, and played college football for Bowdoin. Very dad energy. Extremely charming. Dead in three episodes as history intended. Fix-it fic incoming.
2022 Top Gun Maverick comes out. Jake "Hangman" Seresin (played by Glen Powell, who I loved in Hidden Figures and The Guernsey Literary Potato Peel Pie Society) has a jawline you could cut something with and an attitude. My friends think I am mental. Second Planes Go Zoom phase coupled with Devotion, which comes out shortly after.
SAS Rogue Heroes comes out. I have been really looking forward to seeing Tom Glynn Carney in something else and he delivers. Mike Sadler is blond, extremely good at his job, not capable of suffering fools, and far too attractive for the desert.
2024
We do not even make it out of trailer season before I realize I still have a Thing (TM) for Callum Turner's face, which I have known since he was Theseus Scamander in Fantastic Beasts. Watching The Boys in the Boat before this all starts doesn't help - he has regrettably blond hair but thighs for days and shoulders you could hang the universe on. John "Bucky" Egan, is tall, dark-haired, incredibly generous spirited and nominally in charge. I want all of it. The rest of the fandom does too. I try to make peace with that and write anyway. Third Planes Go Zoom phase.
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charlottebartlett · 2 years
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Re-watching the Forsyte Saga. I want to hate Soames, and I do for a particular episode, but I wind up pitying more than hating him. 
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coolcatkerr · 4 years
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Jon + Fleur - "Don't give up on us Jon, please don't give up" (The Forsyte Saga)
"But we're meant for each other, we're meant to be!" 
"No, I don't think so." 
I watched this when I was 12 and was truly heartbroken when Jon and Fleur didn't end up together. 
Watching this almost every year since, you gain a better understanding of The Forsyte Saga as you get older, but still doesnt make this love story any less sad.   
This is the second series to the Forsyte Saga, if you have not seen either you should go watch as it's fantastic story and actors. You can watch it on BritBox atm, go do it! 
For those wishing a summary: 
Fleur and Jon Forsyte meet and fall in love, ignorant of their parents' past troubles, indiscretions and misdeeds (from season one of the show). Once Soames (Fleur's father), Jolyon, and Irene (Jon's parents') discover their romance, they forbid their children to see each other again. Knowing he is soon to die from a weak heart, Jolyon tells Jon the events of Irene's marriage to Soames, including her love affair with Philip Bosinney and Soames's rape of her and warns him that Irene would be alone if he were to marry Fleur.  When Jolyon suddenly dies of a heart attack Jon is left torn between the past and his present love for Fleur. He ultimately rejects Fleur, breaking his own heart as well as hers and leaves for America. Fleur marries Michael Mont, though she knows she doesn't love him, convinced that it is better to be in a loveless marriage than to be exposed to heartbreak. 
 Song: Novo Amor - Anchor
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ootadzihiko · 6 years
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I’ve been all in literature recently, so I decided to paint Soames’s portrait~
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scarlok · 6 years
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thisbluespirit · 2 years
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Favourite episodes of old telly: The Forsyte Saga 13. “Encounter” (BBC 1967); dramatised by Vincent Tilsley from John Galsworthy’s novels; dir. James Cellan Jones.
“Jon, you know there’s been a feud between our families?” // “A feud?  No!  What about?” // “Something romantic and silly.”
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dinathalawriter · 2 years
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FORSYTE VS POLDARK (yea)
I just rewatched Forsyte.
I read Forsyte much too young, it was at my grandparents and I was attracted by the beautiful image on the book. Anyway I read whatever my grandma had, not necessarily in the right order, and I didn't understand so many things. For ex I didn't understand the infamous "scene" (Irene and Soames) or why she was so mean to her husband LOL. Anyway just recently I re-read some of it (still don't like Dinny btw) and it hit me like a ton of brick: Soames = George (I'm a big fan of Poldark the show and the book).
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They're both low key sociopathic, don't often do emotions, obsessed with their first wife even well after it's over, want to be accepted in society, they're basically cold except when they get possessive or challenged, they are pitiful in a way and upstarts/upstart family but they want their wife to love them.
The second wife is just a convenience thing, from which they want a son. They get cuckolded twice. Second wives are there for the money and status, bedroom isn't a big deal ("for what else had he married her but to have a lawful heir") even with first. Yes there are some differences, George would never act like Soames but again Elizabeth doesn't flaunt cheating and kick him out.
Both were rational enough for this obsession to be out of character. They could have someone without baggage but no. George knew Elizabeth's history (Francis even complained she refuses relations and loves Ross) and took the risk despite her postponing once (after taking forever to decide if she'll marry him). Soames even worse, he proposes what, seven times? six times? and agrees to her condition that he releases her if she's unhappy. That's quite strange for such cold minded men (their entourage agrees).
I googled to see if I was crazy but some others see it, and some suggest Damian Lewis as George LOL. It is very interesting that in those times - I may have other books in mind but the titles escape me, maybe one from the Rougon-Macquart saga, there's Oscar in Les Thibault but he didn't remarry - it is more the "cool" character who is promiscuous while the villain is non sexual or faithfully married. When nowadays it's the opposite. Also this is where the villains are punished, on the thing they did right. Very puzzling.
(obvious differences is that Elizabeth learns to enjoy life with George and George goes for widows and social status, while Soames doesn't rely on marriage to progress, Soames marries girls and George widows)
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frimleyblogger · 3 years
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The Silver Spoon
The Silver Spoon - by John Galsworthy, the second volume of The Modern Comedy trilogy
The Silver Spoon – John Galsworthy Galsworthy’s Forsyte Chronicles stretched to nine volumes and the Silver Spoon in some senses marks the midway point, being the fifth in the series and the second of the Modern Comedy trilogy. Published in 1926, it follows the story of Soames Forsyte and his daughter, Fleur, now married to Michael Mont and mother of a son, Kit, described as the eleventh…
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billdecker · 4 years
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I am prepared to lose everything for you. I would leave this city, this country, at a moment’s notice. I would grub in the dirt with my fingers, sell my soul to spend my life with you. Respectability will not keep you warm at night. You know it. 
The Forsyte Saga - Series One (2002) 
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mercurygray · 4 years
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Still working on my Forsyte Saga rewatch. I've gotten all the way to episode 4, which is a hard episode to watch for... a lot of reasons, and I'm...trying to figure out what would fix this.
In the book, Irene is much less of a character than she is on the show. For all the men who love her (Soames, Bosinney, Old Jolyon, Young Jolyon, and even Jon, her son) she appears remote and distant, an ideal to be aspired towards. (I assume this has something to do with the fact that the book was written by a man.)
I actually enjoy that on the show, the script allowed Gina McKee to turn her into an actual human, not a virtue painting.
But to return to my issue - what would solve this? It seems to me that Soames and Irene's marriage is always doomed to failure. He is a privileged man who, wanting something, can ask for it and have it given him, and she is a woman at an economic disadvantage who says yes because she has no other options. While Soames desires her, he lacks the language to articulate why - as 'the man of property' his desire comes solely from buying and selling and the possession of things, and not an appreciation of them. He wants someone who can solidify his place in the tradition of his ancestors and the world in which he moves. She, on the other hand, lacks the language and opportunity to say what it is she really wants, which is a marriage of souls, not just bank accounts. She wants someone who can see and appreciate the emphemeral beauty of the world around her.  But within the confines of the world they inhabit, neither can come out and say these things.
It's only those who leaves the staid world of the Forsytes who find a way to articulate themselves properly - Young Jolyon to marry the governess, make a poor living as an underwriter at Lloyds and a part-time painter, Old Jolyon as a devoted grandfather, long retired from trade and living at Robin Hill. It is these men who ultimately win Irene.
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wah-pah · 10 years
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Resuming my 'The Forsyte Saga' watch, has served to remind me of much I hate Soames Forsyte.
He is the absolute worst. 
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