#still trash for this ship

[skymagpie]

I am obsessed with Davy Jones and Calypso because of how Greek tragedy-esque their story is, where neither is clearly right or wrong in what they did, they both acted as best as they could due to their nature and in the end, their worlds clashed and tragedy was unavoidable.

Calypso didn't leave him waiting because she didn't care about him, she loved him and she still does in her own way despite everything, but it's in her nature to be unpredictable and she can't change that, even if she wanted to. Davy Jones did not realize what it means to fall in love with something above human, with something so vast and powerful and he thought that he would be the one who could play with fire and not get burned - and he was wrong.

But on the other hand Davy Jones behaved the way that was fitting to his human nature too - he felt used, betrayed and tricked into what is essentially torture for all eternity. And in turn, he wanted to retaliate in a way to make her feel the same, make her feel trapped in mortality the way he was trapped in immortality. It's a common theme with him to try and make other people suffer the same way he does so he won't be alone in his misery. But he still didn't do anything to force her to love him or to force her to be with him, he just wanted her to feel what he felt when he thought she betrayed him.

What he did is still inexcusably terrible and he knows that, that's why he ripped his heart out, but that is also part of his human nature - he regrets it and he regretted it right after he did it because he loves her. And love is just not enough sometimes. Calypso does not regret not showing up because she is not human, to her one day in ten years means nothing, she expected him to understand that. And probably Davy Jones's biggest crime is that instead of fixing the problem once he realized he hurt the person he loves, he doubled down in becoming a monster (literally and figuratively) and basically accepted that the only way this will end is in his death and that he will be cruel and vile up until that point. He wouldn't dare ask for forgiveness and redemption after what he did, but he also wouldn't apologize and try and mend it. Because he couldn't face her anger. Because it is in his nature to be this way.

This story is such a small part of the series, but it's written so beautifully and so well that it's the only thing that I've been thinking about since I watched the films.

#the davy jones and calypso obsession continues #yes i still ship them despite knowing all this cause I am trash #potc

[kalpalatas]

stray thought but i love the how the intertwinement of sasamiya/kagihira and their individual characters means all of them are two maybe three steps from being completely different ships and stories instead. sasaki to hirano. hirano to miyano. kagiura to miyano. sasaki to kagiura. they're ALL compelling to me i feel ill

#<- multishipper trash as they call em on twitter #ik sasahira is practically established as the near miss ship but guys. kagimiya.....hiramiya.... #maybe theyre doomed. im still going ponder on the hows and whys. #hmm many worlds au............... #ssmy #kghr #sasaki to miyano #hirano to kagiura

[mamawasatesttube]

just remembered how megfitz made tim think about how bernard is so much better than all the other relationships he'd "settled for" and was once again briefly consumed by rage. meghan you apologize to zoanne wilkins right the fuck now

#rimi talks #like also apologize to ari and steph and all but. i specifically am a zoanne wilkins stan blog until i die. so #i can't lie. this line alone made me dislike tim/ber significantly more than i did before reading it #and the rest of tdr did Not help with that. #protip: if you have to put down women in order to prop up your m/m ship i WILL hate that m/m ship out of spite immediately #especially when you do nothing to sell me on the ship other than going HEY THEYRE PERFECT BTW. THEYRE SO PERFECT TOGETHER. like... ok #can you tell me why they even like each other tho. (she cannot bc she doesnt know how to write a mediocre romance forget a compelling one) #god i really just. that comic was a trash fire. lord. the mentions of kon in it made the kill bill sirens go off in my head #anyways. its fine tdr isnt real it cant hurt me. but meghan does still owe my girls an apology lmao

[bambirex]

The way my dash was such a lovely positive place a few days after the new season came out and i was having so much fun hanging out here and now it's full of anti geraskier posts... Like... You don't have to suddenly hate on a ship you previously loved just because there's a new one... You can multiship... You can prefer one to the other and acknowledge they work for different reasons... Just... Why the sudden hostility in every second post i see

#i absolutely love radskier so far and i am so happy we have it #and it's very different from geraskier and i feel like comparing canon ships to non-canon ones is almost an apples and oranges situation #i do understand why people prefer it like it makes sense #but it's kinda weird to see people who previously loved geraskier throwing it in the trash and also lowkey making fun of people #who still enjoy it #can't we all just enjoy all the lovely jaskier ships #bambi says some bullshit #idk it just kinda makes me sad like the tone changed so abruptly

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

Whenever a cartoon or any piece of media’s final part or finale disappoints me (In this case SPOP season 5. I won’t deny that the previous seasons had flaws, but at least the overall show was enjoyable at the time IMHO.) I try to just be like “That sucked” and move on to something better. It’s far easier said than done. I always manage to find something better, but that feeling of disappointment in the previous thing is very hard to shake off. I often think about just how good SPOP’s final season could’ve been if it cared about Adora, Catra, Bow,Glimmer, and all the other characters as, well, characters, and not components to bad ships.

that's exactly how i feel! when you enjoy a show so much and you have high hopes for it, the final season being a trainwreck hits you really hard. i felt the same with amphibia and the owl house. all these shows had the potential to be something great but for some reason, they don't know how to wrap up a story well. so you're left behind wondering about how great it would have been if these writers were competent and tried to write a coherent ending, instead of rushing things and scrapping off important plotlines.

#hunter's arc being scrapped and reversed in toh so he could end up with willow #felt eerily similar to adora's arc being trashed for the sake of c//a #granted huntlow isn't as toxic as c//a #but it's still not a good ship #spop critical #spop #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #she ra #on the brighter side i have recs for some shows that have actually good final seasons: #avatar the last airbender #infinity train #gravity falls #add any other that you want to!

[charliecharmeleon]

ive been very inactive here (and everywhere) lately and one of the (many) reasons why is bc i was busy making this little calico critter house/kitchen for my friend katie's birthday! it took many weeks and a lot of work and i learned a lot of new things in the process lol but im pretty pleased w how it turned out!

i bought some things secondhand (the bunnies (obviously), the bigger furniture (fridge, sink, oven, table+chairs, big shelf), and the food/drinks/kitchenware), but a lot of it is made by hand! a number of things here are made of modeling clay which is something ive been working with more and more and i think im starting to get the hang of

some detail shots:

and also this foil dispenser and this oven mitt i made!

and here is the cake i made for her too ft her dog! ive been a busy little bee

#making things that are small is SO hard lmfao. every time i work w clay i try to go smaller and it is always harder #but like! im proud of that little ducky! even if its lopsided! and i made that trash can too including the trash inside it! #i made those hooks on the walls! i made that tablecloth and those curtains! i painted that ivy! #i made this whole stupid house out of a box of dog food! in the corner of my room on a tiny little prop-up tray table! wow! #idk it feels nice to make something and not entirely hate it and also the person you made it for liked it too #also the one bunny does not have clothes bc im still waiting for them to arrive in the mail LOL. Shipping Delays. #also once again i am wishing my art tag was not 'doodles' bc like. not a doodle but w/e i guess #doodles

[landfilloftrash]

something about certain things coming around full circle

#Resident Evil #Resident Evil 8 #Ethan Winters #Karl Heisenberg #Chris Redfield #Albert Wesker #Heisenwinters #Chrisker #both are kinda implied HOWEVER my point still stands #they are the same ship but in like. different font. italics even #if I had a nickel for every angry man in sunglasses who was experimented on by a higher up that considered them their “child’ and had a #weird ass relationship with the mc that had undertones of flirting/sexual tension and was killed by said protag I would have two nickels!!!! #i may be slightly insane and THAT IS MY OWN BUSINESS #i shall descend into madness over here in delight #please click for better quality #tumblr butchers the quality electric boogaloo #ALSO there is in fact a version of that memory image w/o all those layers and overlays if anyone wants it lmao #rea’s trash

[defiedfate]

michael buble's SWAY is peak stolitz mood.

#ooc #I am trash for this ship #ugh #stolitz tag coming #it'll still be two days til we say we're sorry ;; blitz // stolas

[heythereofficerfriendly]

my version of the walking dead: destinies game- rick and merle stuck together and trying not to kill each other from beginning to end of game. make it happen

#hi yeah im not dead #the walking dead #rick grimes #merle dixon #trash ship #still infecting your eyeballs with my trash not sorry #doodle

[lord-squiggletits]

Idk if my previous posts were unclear but I don't remotely hate any Optimus version that isn't IDW or think they suck. Every Optimus is good and there's a fan (or multiple fans!) of every version of OP no matter how obscure or underrated (as well as all the other characters).

What's more questionable (or at least annoying) is when fandom ignores canon character personalities in favor of writing specific archetypes that are either out of character or repetitive/stereotyped to the point of annoyance. As an example of this, it would be a female character being called the Team Mom just because she's a woman existing in a group of (primarily male) characters even if she's not remotely motherly or nurturing. Or, as a more topical example, how often I've seen Transformers ships where even though both characters are canonically masculine (or gender neutral), fanartists love to turn one of the characters small and weak (or even outright feminine) to turn the ship into Strong Dominant Seme and Sweet Cute Uke to fit a specific kink or romantic fantasy, even if it's a disservice/OOC to portray those characters like that.

In other words, a fandom's popularity of certain characters, ships, headcanons, etc is often more informed by tropes and forcing canon to adhere to one's personal tastes, as opposed to approaching canon and trying to understand it on its own terms. I'm not talking about the quality of the source material, but rather the way that the fandom interprets the source materials in ways that don't make any sense, approach it in bad faith, or just generally don't care about canon at all. So I'm not saying one OP is better than another, my problem is when fandom consistently focuses on certain stereotypes or flanderizations of a character, and then any character that doesn't fit the popular (often stereotyped) mold is ignored or virulently rejected. In other words, I think popular fandom often does a DISSERVICE to characters whether they love them or hate them, it just takes different forms.

So, just as an example, I think one fandom caricature of Optimus that I see a lot (and heavily dislike) is making Optimus some sort of shrinking wallflower type who's innocent, sweet, and virginal, in contrast to an opposite caricature of Megatron that's big, strong, dominant, and rugged, and making ship art that forces the characters into some kind of seme/uke or borderline heteronormative romance. Despite the fact that canon Optimus (in, say, TFP for example) is tall, broadly built, deep voiced, dignified, assertive, and strong (physically and morally), completely incorrect interpretations of him as a shy feminized uke type are still pretty common to find. And it makes you ask yourself why it is so many people make MOP ship art of them of The Small One and The Large One or The Small, Cute One and The Big, Violent One when it's completely different from canon. It feels as if such fanart is made by people who just want to see seme/uke style slash ships, and if canon doesn't give them what they want, they'll simply trash it and replace it with their own version, even if it's completely OOC.

So when I said in my other post that people don't like IDW Optimus because he can't be fit into caricatures like happy dad or shy twink, I'm not saying it to say "other OPs who resemble that suck," I'm saying it to express "Fandom tends to simplify characters into easily palatable and comfortable tropes, and when they encounter a character they can't do that with, they respond by ignoring or even hating on that character."

Other versions of Optimus have the problem where fandom turns them into a stereotype instead of the actual character they are, e.g. portraying TFA OP as some poor abused damsel with no self confidence and crippling anxiety being abused by his superiors, and then they talk more about this fake uwu smoll bean cinnamon roll version of TFA OP than they do about actual canon TFA OP. And honestly I can't think of any prominent content/meta about G1 OP that isn't just "he plays basketball and does funny one liners and is Team Dad/Grandpa." (Hell, you even get that with non-Optimus characters that get simplified to just sexy twink, old grandpa, comedy relief, evil ex, Diversity Win-- She's A Lesbian, third wheel to the favored ship, etc even though there's way more depth to them than just their surface level stereotype.)

IDW OP's problem is that he can't be stereotyped like that so instead the fandom ignores him. He's not small, so they can't stereotype him as a skinny twink getting topped by a burly uke. He's not jovial or happy go lucky or extroverted, so they can't stereotype him as Team Dad or Comedy Relief. He's assertive, blunt, and has a temper, so they can't stereotype him as a shy wallflower in need of protecting. He makes catastrophic mistakes and is responsible for bad things happening, so they can't stereotype him into a sweet cinnamon roll who has never done anything wrong in his whole life or The Infinitely Wise and Kind Paragon. There's no Big Bad Authority Figure who was mean to IDW OP and traumatized him, so they can't excuse the bad things he did as "he's traumatized so he couldn't help it" and wave away his flaws as "it's his abuser's fault, they made him this way." IDW OP has the kind of depression where he's grumpy, shut off, and angry-- as opposed to the shy, sad kind of depression that just stares forlornly out of the window in a beautifully tragic way-- so they can't make him into a sad woobie kicked around unfairly by life.

Or I guess they just stereotype IDW OP as "evil bastard with no redeeming qualities that's mean to everyone for no reason, plus the writers forced everyone to like him just because he's Optimus Prime" even though that isn't accurate either.

Put bluntly, IDW OP forces fandom to contend with the idea that someone can be a good person with good intentions but still fuck up on a massive scale and maybe end up hurting more than they helped. IDW OP is messy, ugly, flawed, mean, stoic, closed off. When IDW OP has mental breakdowns or has his feelings hurt, he's loud and angry and harsh, and the consequences of what he did while he was unwell continue to haunt him long after. In other words, he actually experiences negative emotions the way a real person would, and sometimes when he's under the influence of negative emotions, he lashes out or does stupid things (like a real person might) instead of inoffensively crying in a corner somewhere. He isn't sanitized enough for a fandom that only wants Perfect Pure Good Optimus Who Never Hurts Anyone Even By Accident, so instead of IDW OP's mistakes and dark moments being treated as the logical end point of a person put in constant no-win situations until he breaks, he gets treated as if his mistakes and flaws make him an irredeemable bastard with no good qualities who should've fucked up less often to make fans actually like him.

And this is all in a fandom where 90% of the characters are war criminals and a good half of them have massacred organic planets. But god forbid IDW Optimus ever make a bad decision in a stressful situation. Or be mean to someone. Or have a character arc about how blindly idolizing people as paragons ends badly for everyone involved because no one can be that perfect. He is simply The Worst Optimus Ever and there's absolutely nothing about him worth discussing.

And just to be clear, the problem isn't the fact that some people don't like IDW OP, or he's just not their thing and they don't care.

The problem is the fact that he's consistently and actively hated by the fanbase who makes a concentrated effort to say he sucks and make sure none of their fan works ever include him. It's literally at a level where I stopped looking in the Optimus tag on this website because I was tired of people randomly going "and btw IDW OP sucks and I want to drown him in a ditch" in posts that weren't even about IDW, and I stopped looking for MegOP fic on AO3 because most of it is IDW Megatron/clearly TFP or G1 inspired continuity soup Optimus. Places that are Optimus friendly for Optimus fans, where I could reasonably expect to find positive conversations, but instead get sucker punched by hate about the character The Space Is About. And I can't even have conversations asking about why they do, bc the way 90% of them talk, I can tell they literally just didn't read the comics or deliberately misinterpreted the story.

I find it bizarre and frankly, tragic, that the hate train for IDW OP is so pervasive that people actively erase and replace him from fan works IN THE IDW UNIVERSE in a way that no other character is targeted in. I have tried so hard to understand why IDW OP gets this sort of hate and erasure when other characters who were as bad or worse than him have perfectly normal takes about them that go "yeah he kinda sucks but he's cool and I like him" or "who cares if he's problematic IRL, it's a story." The only conclusion I can come to is that because Optimus Prime (TM) has a specific brand image and is locked into being a cultural icon, he's held to a standard of The Ideal Perfect Hero instead of the way better standard of "Is he an interesting, well written character?"

#squiggposting #discourse #i tried my best to phrase this in a way that didnt invalidate different tastes #but like honestly. some ppls tastes suck. or are actually problematic and not in a fake way #like as an example from the main text avoe #i hate it so much when gay ships are made seme/uke - dominant/submissive - fem/masc #when that not only isnt in character or accurate to canon. but is also really boring at best or homophobic at worst #i cant control ppl's opinions but i can still think theyre boring stupid or even downright offensive #i have SEEN pretty much every popular TF character or pairing get flanderized somehow #so it's not just my attachment to OP in larticular #and i find it very frustrating when it seems as if ppl arent fans of the very media they consume #and they turn an interesting story into cookie cutter stereotypes #and then when the story isnt a cookie cutter stereotype easily divisible into black and white #they hate the characters and story and call it trash #might delete later bc i feel cring #but this is oretty much the culmination of all the thoughts and discussions ive had #with multiple people #anyways ive seen enough fandom discourse posts about The State of Fandom #and The Same 5 Tropes Recycled just copy pasted into different fandoms #what i speak of isnt just about my fave. rather my fave is a victim of this fandom tencency #and it is a FACT that fandom will force characters into offensive stereotypes that dont even make sense #tldr sometimes fanon.....is way worse than canon #also i revised and edited this like a billion times to make sure i wasnt hasty or vague or mean #so if i still made a mistake. whatever i guess this post took hours #it's not about wanting absolutely everyone to love my favorite #it's about the fact that ppl actively hate him even in spaces that are about him/ships he's in #to the point i have to not interact with strangers bc i never know if my fsve will randomly get shit on #and on top that the hate is mostly based on surface level assumptions and misinformation #so not only is my fav hated in a way no other character is. they dont even hate him for canon facts #sucks to see the fandom so thoroughly full of hate by ppl who arent informed bc they never gave canon a chance

[coolspacequips]

I think if all ppl can say about allura is that she's an obstacle to kl or that she's dead to be kl angst or that ppl shipping her w Lance suck then maybe just don't talk about her ever LMAO

#ppl will truly be like 'Lance is bi 😊 but yuck allurance is het trash' bi means liking more than just ur same gender fuck u lol #i love kl but i can't fuck w the fans too much at large bc they love to talk about k and l screwing on alluras grave if they remember her #just say ur hateful and go dont bring allura into this didn't the show treat her bad enough FUCK #at least l fans there's a 50/50 chance they recall dead dead out of the way of Keith allura with some kindness #but k fans it's a 75% chance they hate her and go out of their way to talk about how awful she is and gotta say i don't trust like that #u can dislike any character for whatever reasons but the optics on this are bad and the specific things they say are red flags fr #so many ppl say Lance is bi bc it's a popular fanon to explain he's a flirt w girls but we actually want him to be gay #instead of actually saying it bc they think he's bi... the whole fandom was/is specifically v biphobic #i hc everyone as bi and that means sometimes it's a mf ship but it's still queer like come on #anyway this is for no one I'm just idek bye #text posts #might just delete this I'm so tired 😫 #not even to touch on specifically the misogynior of it all #it's 2024 and I'm still seeing fresh takes that are the exact same shitty takes from years ago

[cocoabubbelle]

Wanda: Toad, why are you crying? 
Todd: This book is so sad!! 
Wanda *picking it up*: …this is my diary-

#shenanigans #incorrect x men evolution quotes #todd tolansky #wanda maximoff #xmen toad #the brotherhood of mutants #scarlet witch #why are wanda’s tags so weird #if you ship this #that’s fine #i personally don’t #ship trash boys with no boundaries and who don’t take no for an answer with angry and traumatized broken girls #x men evolution #xmen evolution #look #he’s barged into/snuck into her room plenty of times that makes this scenario possible a’ight? #prebrainwashing she would have throttled him #postbrainwashing she would still trottle him but not as much maybe?

[kismetconstellations]

Little Barlyle Things That Haunt Me

- How Phineas is the only person calling for Phillip during the fire at the Barnum Museum, and the growing panic in his voice and fear in his eyes when he realizes that Phillip isn’t coming back out of the museum on his own. 

- “They come to see you.” Despite the stands being filled to capacity for the Oddities’ and Anne and W.D.’s performance of “This Is Me”, where Phineas was completely absent. 

- That Phineas manhandling Phillip is such an innate part of their dynamic, it bled over into Hugh and Zac’s interactions behind the scenes. 

- Phineas needing to straddle Phillip, essentially draping his entire body over him, in order to affirm for himself that Phillip is still breathing. 

- Everything about this:

#Zac Efron #The light of my life. #The love of my life. #Phillip Carlyle #My melancholic disgraced alcoholic love. #Hugh Jackman #P.T. Barnum #The Circus King #Barlyle #OTP: You brought joy into my life. #ZH #The Greatest Showman #Meta #TGS Meta #Yes this circus ship still owns my soul. #Yes I am and always will be unmitigated Circus Dads trash; shipping a romanticized version of a controversial historical figure with his #fictional benefactor-turned-apprentice-turned-partner. #And #yes #every time I rewatch this movie my love for them is renewed and amplified a billionfold.

[pinkopalina]

🤮 had this idea in my head for weeks

#beavis and butthead #theyre so annoying i just adore them #can butt-head just manipulatively flirt with beavis instead of always being mean to him #it'd be tho interethting #like nice butt-head but still evil. LOL #my art #trash ship

[sniperct]

acquired starfield and put about an hour into it so far, finished the first research outpost with the pirates then rescued a little outpost nearby

love the music, looks good and plays well on my PC

it still feels like fallout, but the combat and movement is a bit better. enemies feel spongey

spaceship flying kind of sucks and is very simplified but I wasn't expecting anything complicated or simmy, this isn't star citizen.

And I found a program to map my joystick and we'll see if that helps. I'm okay with arcadey flying in games but it's waaaay more fun with a flightstick. (I play war thunder in arcade battles with one, lots more fun than using a mouse and keyboard. One day I'll graduate to more realistic battles)

Anyway first impressions a solid 7/10, but we'll see how long I go before I get bored like I do with almost every one of bethesda's games. I'm intrigued by the story but they aren't known for solid main story telling

#listen I'm old school #anything rated 6 or higher is still a decent game #we've got this thing where if a game isn't rated 9 or 10 #everyone calls it trash #or yells at you for not rating it a 9 or 10 #7 is good! haven't run into major bugs yet #exept the time I lost the hud in combat in the space ship #graphics are stellar #music is grand #I was enjoying the combat #which is surprising since it's a bethesda game #I can already tell BG3 is leagues better #I won't rec or not rec starfield until I've to a lot more time in #right now it's at 'if my enjoyment continues I'll buy it legit when on sale' #but if I lose the story and get bored after 20 hours #then that's deep discount $5 steam sale in 5 years #after I get my fill of starfield gonna finally play RDR2 I think #still have to finish BOTW #and acquire TOTK #but that's awhile off

[artekai]

They talk to each other like this on a daily basis (canon) (real and true)

#remember that post i made about enjoying ships where they are both just trying to out-manipulate each other? this is that but platonic #they're so fucked up and toxic i hope they kill each other and then forget why they even wanted to kill each other in the first place ❤️ #pretty sure the only reason tilda still keeps fross around is bc if she tried to leave he would pull some shit like #''damn what would lis think of you if she saw you treating her only surviving family like trash... 🤨 she would not love you very much... #you'd spit on the last promise you made to her... trample over the only thing you have left of her...? you must not love HER very much... #yeah i thought so. you'll never be free. tee hee ❤️'' #<- add that to reasons why aloy's existence is a threat to fross #oc: fross #oc tag #horizon oc #horizon au #deni's art #deni's stuff #oc art