#the last marvel movie that was real to me was catws

[shanastoryteller]

Happy Fall Season! 🍁🍂🌻🎃👻🧛🏻‍♀️ … Three faced goddess continuation 👉🏻👈🏻? God dammit shana i fucking loved this prompt, 2012 Tony is the only version that has rights and I’ve had such a problem with him ever since aou, but your writing took me back to when I actually loved his character

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Rhodey heads to the smith, unsurprised to see a line of people outside of it, waiting for the man inside to succumb to his need to eat or sleep and pounce on him for whatever issue they believe needs his immediate attention. Peter is among them, the closest to an apprentice that exists, but he can’t enter the forge without everyone else pushing in too, so he waits with all the rest of them.

When they see him coming, they groan, knowing their chances have been destroyed, except for Peter, who just looks relieved.

He remembers a time when Edward belonged to him alone. Edward exists because of him, after all, and needs must, but sometimes he can’t help but resent that this is another piece that he’s had to share.

“When I walk back out, it better be to an empty hallway,” he says blandly.

He receives a chorus of, “Yes, General,” and a jaunty wave from Peter before he’s opening the door and then shutting it firmly behind him.

In the beginning, the alchemy lab and the forge had occupied the same space, the outpost not yet big enough to have the rooms to spare. It had been quickly remedied once Rhodey had found about it, because the last thing any of them needed was losing him to an explosion of his own making, but he can’t say he’s surprised to see a cauldron bubbling ominously in the center of the room. “You have a lab for a reason.”

Surprised brown eyes snap up to meet his, and then there’s that familiar grin that always causes tension to unspool from his spine, even when it really shouldn’t. “Well, well, look what the cat dragged in. How goes the battle on the Eastern border?”

As if he doesn’t know. “They’re retreating. Our soldiers are holding the line and it looks like they’ve given up attacking us on that front. For now.”

“Sounds like something you should tell the king,” he says, frowning down into the cauldron as if it’s personally disappointed him.

Rhodey closes the distance between them, grabbing his chin and tilting his head to the side, frowning at the bruising mostly hidden by his hairline. “I am. But it’s a bit of wasted effort, considering the king is half the reason for their retreat.”

“Just half?” he pouts. “I really think that I deserve more credit-”

Rhodey kisses him to shut him up, a strategy that he’s been employing since they were teenagers, the whole reason necessitating Edward in the first place.

The second prince could not be scene dallying with someone so below him in station, the fact they were known to be friendly was a fluke of a broken wagon and much derision to all who heard of it. But Edward was no one, an educated fifth son of some nameless noble with a talent for metalwork, and no one cared if he kissed a commoner.

Then war had come knocking and a king could not do what needed to be done and so Edward had shifted from Rhodey’s to the country’s overnight.

Tony hums happily against his mouth and Rhodey pulls back rather than deepening it. Half the trick with was not letting him get distracted. “You need to get some sleep. Have you slept at all since getting back from the battle?”

The deep bruises under his eyes already tells him the answer, but it’s still worth asking.

“Need to figure this out,” he says, tilting his head to the cauldron. “It’s a coating for the blades to get them sharp enough to cut through armor. Not our armor, obviously, but other people’s.”

“A day,” he says, because Tony is needed everywhere at all times in all ways, and someone has to keep him from running himself into an early grave, and at the outpost, that’s him. “Just a day at home. I know you miss it. It’s been a while.”

Tony’s eyes go distant and fond. “Yes,” he agrees, and that one word has all the exhaustion that he won’t let show.

“You disappear all the time, no one will question it,” he murmurs, “I’ll make sure of it.”

“I’ll go if you will,” he returns. “You haven’t been home in even longer than I have.”

“Less of a need,” he argues, and he should argue against this too, when it’s unnecessary and dangerous, but he’s tired too. “Fine. We’ll need to sneak out to the woods if you don’t want to get caught.”

Tony clearly hadn’t expected him to agree that easily. “You hate flying.”

He hates how much pain it puts Tony in, but since he’s flying either way to get home, it doesn’t matter. “I’ll deal.”

Tony kisses him again, writes down some notes, douses the cauldron, and then they’re using the secret entrances that had actually been the whole point of building a lab near the forge. When they’re far enough away, Tony’s chest glows, the light and sparks spreading out from his chest to effulge his body and liquid gold and mercury sliding down his limbs. Rhodey has to close his eyes against the light, but Tony’s arms around him are always welcome, even when they burn almost too hot to stand.

The Iron Mage flying to the castle is a common enough sight that it raises no alarm and the brightness of Tony in flight means no one can tell he has a passenger, seen as nothing more than their own personal shooting star.

Tony melts the iron shutters back with a wave of his hand, likely reforming it behind them with a more intricate pattern than they’d been wrought with, because he always had such opinions about anything he hadn’t crafted himself.

He’s barely set Rhodey back onto his feet and folded the star back inside himself when there’s the running of little feet coming straight for them. Rhodey’s not surprised.

She’s always watching the stars, looking for her father.

Tony bends to pick up Morgan as she rounds the corner, barreling towards him with single minded intensity. “Daddy!”

“Hey, buttercup,” he says, hoisting her into her arms and settling her on his hip. “Miss me?”

“Yes,” she answers, wrapping her arms around Tony’s neck in a hug. She turns her head to grin at him, Tony’s eyes shining in her face. “Hi Rhodey. I missed you too.”

“Hi, Princess,” he says, leaning down to press a kiss to her forehead. She frees one arm from Tony to grab onto the front of his jacket, keeping him in place. He settled a hand on her back and that seems to satisfy her.

The door pushes open and Pepper is standing there, still with hair up and braided around a circlet and in a deep blue silk gown. “Someone here is supposed to be asleep.”  

Tony and Morgan’s innocent faces are identical and equally unconvincing.

“It’s me, isn’t it?” Rhodey asks.

“It’s all three of you, really,” she answers, striding forward. She squeezes his shoulder, then uses it as balance to push herself to her tip toes.

Tony bends to meet her in a kiss, chaste enough that Rhodey doesn’t feel the need to pull away but long enough that he assumes Tony’s sleep might end up experiencing a delay.

“I don’t want to go bed,” Morgan says. “Daddy’s home.”

“I’ll be here in the morning,” Tony says and Pepper’s face relaxes. “Come on, I’ll put you to bed myself, okay? And then you can tell me about all the new things you learned over breakfast.”

“I’m not tired,” she insists, but only waves at him when Tony pulls away to take her to her room.

Rhodey waves back, almost goes with them, but having the two of them there will just make her twice as riled up.

“I could have another, you know.”

He looks down at Pepper, blinking. “I thought – after the war?”

After the cave, after swallowing a star rather than being swallowed by it, Tony couldn’t justify staying on the sidelines, couldn’t justify only contributing to the war as Edward. Besides, being captured in the first place had shown him that he wasn’t safe as Edward anyway, but even Tony couldn’t justify taking to the battlefield without an heir, without a child of Stark blood to inherit, without a queen who could rule both while he fought and invented and in the event of his death.

Prince Gregory had been ten years older than Tony, he’d been the boy everyone knew would be king. Tony was just the spare, and not even one had on purpose. It’s why he’d had the freedom to meet Rhodey in the first place, to take on the name Edward and poke and prod his way through universities and labs and harassing blacksmiths into teaching him a craft a prince was never supposed to know. They’d assumed his father would arrange his marriage to some foreign noble for political reasons and Tony would install her onto an estate and do what was necessary to add a couple kids to the royal line and that would be that, he would then be free to spend his time on pursuits he enjoyed and with the man he loved. He was just the second prince, after all, it’s not like what he did really mattered, and he and Prince Gregory had never gotten along anyway.

Lots of people hadn’t gotten along with Prince Gregory, lots of people had thought his temper and his cruelty and several other attributes made him unsuitable as king. Maybe, on their own, they wouldn’t have mattered much – Rhodey thought Prince Gregory was not so much worse than King Howard – but he was constantly compared to the brother ten years his junior and found lacking.

They never found out who was behind the attack that killed Tony’s parents and brother. With their enemies sensing weakness and declaring war soon after, it was easy to pin the blame on them. But there were persistent rumors that it’d been someone, or several someones, that wanted Tony on the throne over his brother.

Rhodey doesn’t know if it’s true. All he knows is that relief rippled through the country far heavier than mourning.

The relationship he and Tony had, the future they’d mapped out, had been possible for a snubbed second prince and utterly impossible for a king. Tony had put off marriage for longer than he should have, but he couldn’t forever, and his urge to get out and fight now that he could pressed down on him.

Pepper had been his friend first. Their friend first. A noble, but only barely, and utterly unsuitable for the title of queen according to her pedigree and also the only one Tony would agree to marry so the rest hadn’t mattered.

If she were anyone else, he thinks he would have hated her. But Pepper had come to him after Tony had asked her and said, “I love him,” like throwing down a gauntlet.

He’d known. Who couldn’t help but love Tony, once they got to know him? And Pepper was beautiful and competent and trustworthy, could have Tony’s children and lead his country and keep all his secrets. And Tony might be able to resist falling in love with Pepper when she was only his friend and confidant, but as his wife, the mother of his children, his queen? He would fall.

“I want what’s best for him,” she’d continued in what he thought was going to be the worst conversation of his life, “and that’s me and you. He would never give you up. You know that. You should have a little more faith in him.”

“He needs you,” he’d said quietly. What Tony needed is something he couldn’t be, he wasn’t a noble or a woman.

Pepper had lifted her chin in defiance, every inch the queen she was going to become. “He needs us.”

That had been years ago. They made it work, awkwardly and painfully at first, but much smoother these days, warmer and easier. When the war ends, he thinks things might even be easy.

Tony and Pepper had needed to have a child and quickly, to secure the succession. She’d been pregnant within four months of their marriage and Princess Morgan’s birth had been greeted with relief by the country. Still, more heirs are better, especially with Starks being thin on the ground, but Tony resisted the idea of having another child in the midst of war, another child that he might die on and abandon.

Which is what makes Pepper’s statement so confusing.

“I didn’t mean right this second,” she says, lips turning up at the corners. “I know I’m not exactly your type, but I certainly wouldn’t mind the process myself. Morgan’s yours, of course, but if you wanted – I wouldn’t mind. Tony wouldn’t either.”

He understands what she’s offering and he’s shaking his head before she’s even finished talking. “We can’t – they’d know.”

“Maybe the next one will take after my genes,” she says. “Goddess knows Morgan’s all her father.”

She is, so clearly Stark, from her eyes to her intelligence to her love of trouble. But there’s no way a child of his could pass as a child Tony’s, which is what any child of the queen’s would have to be. Even if they came out pale enough to pass as a Stark, which isn’t any sort of risk they could take, it wouldn’t be worth the risk of anyone finding out that a child in line for the throne was not of the Goddess blessed bloodline.

“Tony’s children are my children,” he says, and means it. Pepper and Tony had always been clear about that and it had been a relief, to not have to be so close and yet so far, to be able to love Morgan as his daughter even if it was nothing he could ever say out loud. “Go and help him with her. I know you have a lot to catch up on.”

He’ll go to his room, with the bed and comforts that he’s missed quiet a lot, and get the sleep that he’s also missed.

She sighs, squeezing his arm. “Don’t wander. I get up early and Tony never sleeps through it.”

Tony will get up with her, and kiss her as she heads to the hall, then go down to his room and crawl into bed with him, still sleep warm, until he has to get up and put in an appearance as King Anthony.

Rhodey smiles and nudges her towards the hall. “Go on, your husband is waiting.”

“Our husband,” she corrects imperiously and doesn’t move until he laughs and nods and repeats her words back to her.

#i actually think everyone's characterizations in aou onward were utter garbage lol #like i think tony gets shafted a lot because i love him but also they really just made everyone unlikable #the last marvel movie that was real to me was catws #damn this is so long #i'm just having a lot of fun with this au #asks #anon #prompt answers #prompts are closed #avengers

[homieswithhades]

you're one of the few i follow who talks about bucky and so here i am once again in your inbox because the whole way the MCU has approached bucky is just not it. you know? they wrote themselves in a hole. they don't know how to respond exactly with his popularity as a character and no homo'd his most important relationship so hard they're two dudes chilling in two different timelines because it's not gay. the whole 'made amends' thing is just wrong and terrible. bucky didn't do anything wrong! hydra did. hydra used him and yet the narrative has placed it on his shoulders. i enjoyed tfatws but i think there were quite a few odd character writing choices.

hiya !! lovely 2 see u in my inbox again <33

(two bros chilling in 2 different timelines cos theyre not gay killed me bdw)

oh 100% bucky has been mishandled by marvel, i wanna say since the very end of cacw. catfa bucky was splendid and amazingly written, super in character, like That's My Bucky.

catws bucky was obviously brainwashed but (even tho the russos had their grimy little hands on this one) again, amazingly written and handled esp thanks to seb.

it starts to go a little awry at the end of cacw. it was fine when bucky said "i dont know if im worth all this steve" nd steve replies "what you did all those years, it wasnt you. you didnt have a choice" bc this. THIS was the perfect way to be handling buckys trauma. and steve was the ONLY person who could do that. im sorry, but not even sam, whos a licenced councellor, could do that for bucky. the first red flag was before bucky went into cryo and NONE of his fears/feelings were dealt w beforehand. he just goes "i cant trust my own mind" and yoink into the freezer he goes! cacw wasnt terrible w handling bucky, but it did waste a lot of potential with discussing and exploring his character and what he went through. probably bc wuhhh a man cant have FEELINGS and GOD FORBID he show and express them in a HEALTHY WAY in a superhero movie !! (that should have been averngers: civil war, bdw. marvel u actually owe us ca:serpent society)

black panther end credits. what the fuck. is all im gonna say. russos overdosed on how can we make this guys "road to recovery" LOOK like its going like pure shit but not explain why, how, when, who and where.

infinity was a sorta a fucking joke iwel. there were some good parts like the steve and bucky reunion eg. "not bad, for the end of the world" (gives me catfa vibes 😭) and "steve?" being the last words bucky said before being dusted, ik bucky wasnt supposed 2 be the focus in this movie but the fact that they made him fight again after he was supposedly "cured" (see: "semi-stable 100 year old man") was cruel and lacked the exploration it needed to justify it.

endgame is self explanatory. shit movie all-round, pain for everybody in the audience!! it was more of a mishandling of steve rather than bucky, but if we're talking abt bucky specifically, he was more neglected than mishandled. not being bothered to do his metal arm? not showing us the convo he supposedly had with steve before he left? not showing us his reaction to steves joe biden cosplay? horrible. terrible, couldn't have gone worse. once again, seb did ALL the heavy lifting. he is 99% of buckys character.

all of this doesn't even take into account steve and buckys relationship. they are the absolute focal points of each other’s characters, and it was all not just swept under the rug, but the floor was then set on fire, the room burnt to a crisp, the house demolished and then launched into oblivion.

and now to adress what u actually asked, tfatws. i also enjoyed it, but that doesnt mean i think PERSONALLY that it was well written (and thats okay). i do understand it was supposed to deal w sam more than bucky, which it did, but if im being brutally honest, tfatws bucky didnt.... feel like bucky..... which isnt to say seb didnt do a good job, bc he carried what was left of buckys character from the writing, but it was like watching the wrong shoe being put on the correct foot, if that makes sense. bucky was treated like the bad guy, stoic and pissy. "guy with a staring problem", comic fucking relief. govt mandated therapy, constant dismissal, and being thrown back into a fights without it being acknowledged why first. i have no issue w characters who want to keep fighting regardless of trauma (see: john watson) but they NEED the verbal acknowledgement AND the right support system for that plot to be acceptable and sustainable. tfatws did none of that. they reduced bucky to Cap's sidekick again (even tho he wasnt steves sidekick, it feels like he is sams imo pls dont kill me 😭). none of what should have been dealt with was dealt with, because marvel tried to solve literally global, macro-scale problems without even acknowledging the ones at home.

as sweet and technically good the ending of tfatws was, it was badly writtten, at least for bucky. marvel will never climb out of the hole, to use your words, they wrote themselves into, because of 1) the thanos storyline, snap and blip (what the fuck marvel, genuinely) 2) timeline bullshit and 3) steve leaving.

its almost like his actual character development was put on hold for tfatws. it'll be forever up in the air, with no real closure, unless everything and more that i talked about is mentioned. he'll never have the ending he actually deserves.

please do remember, characters are supposed to have arcs, not 90 degree descents into the fucking ground.

#shit #long post #my bad 😭😭😭 #this is the stuff that actually shifts my brain into overdrive but i like talking abt it so thank u for this ask !!!! #buckybarnesss #i could genuinely write a dissertation on this and it would fucking bang #anyway i hope at least some of this makes sense #meta #marvel meta #bucky meta #hades' asks

[bagofbonesmp3]

plz bitch about bw movie <3 i want to know

ok under the cut because i get annoying ❤️

I'd like to preface with the fact that the MCU could never do a good black widow movie. EVER. they don't have the range. they don't have the ability to write deep characters. nat is complicated to say the least and they fucked her up since she was created so she's not natasha. she's natalie.

but they went OVERBOARD with the usamericanism. like i get it, you couldn't find Russian people who wanted to touch your movie with a stick but CMON. they changed her whole backstory it's almost funny how much she isn't the black widow. she could be the purple caterpillar for all i care. she spent part of her childhood in OHIO. the movie is so clearly usamerican that you can't suspend your disbelief that these characters are Russian. not only because they had NO RUSSIAN ACTORS. IN YOUR VERY PROMINENT RUSSIAN MOVIE. but also because the jokes, the attitude these characters have, it's just... usamerican. i can't explain it. it just is.

this doesn't go well with the fact that this is just another formulaic marvel movie. you have the jokes every five fucking seconds (which, btw, are any of you laughing with marvel movies anymore? last time i laughed while watching one was when shuri made t'challa's epic fail video), the pacing is weird as hell, the villains are literally flavorless, the secondary characters overshadow the protagonist and so on. it did have a slightly different vibe that reminded me of catws (may her soul rest in peace) which made it more bearable than any of marvel's other monstrosities. but like. it's almost nothing.

the whole climax was so... underwhelming? i was staring at it sipping at my drink feeling nothing. not anxiety not fear NOTHING. i blame scarjo for not being a good actress like... she was surrounded by so many frankly good actors that she just disappeared for me. her emotional range is literally zero. she was fighting those other widows which should have been traumatizing and painful but she was like 😟 the fight while falling down the sky IS a cool concept i thought it was cool but yknow. it was just well done SFX. also the pacing was SO WEIRD. stick yo your fucking three act formula for god's sake.

the nuclear family thing they pushed onto her is so stupiiiiid. like, even natasha says it in the end of the movie "i thought I had no family" because in the comics she didn't!!! she was picked from the streets or found in the ruins of a castle or created in a lab (natasha has no clear origin story. that's her thing. "you will never know my full story etc etc") but what we do know is that she didn't think the red room was her family but her duty. and she was deeply traumatized which i will talk about later. she did feel love for people in the room and later for people in the KGB. she married alexei even (who they made her father figure here? weird) but never did she entertain the idea she was safe ANYWHERE.

which takes me to Yelena. now, i get that they need to have a heavy quipper. but GOD. she needed to stop. yelena is younger than natasha and way more carefree and naive (at least in that period of her life) but here she just felt... childish. she was meant to replace Natasha. she saw her as competition. and Natasha thought she was a real threat for her (she never thought of her as a sister. maybe as a victim like her but not as a sister) (which the comics are changing up BECAUSE OF THIS STUPID FUCKING MOVIE) this is literally vanilla flavored Yelena. how do you make the white widow boring get help.

something else that bothered me was the obedience chemicals thing. it feels so lazy, in a way, to pretend that all you need to bend someone's will is a serum and all you need to make someone to realize this is another serum. you could explore how trauma affects women, how being treated as objects can be incredibly damaging to the sense of self, how hard it must be for these women to think of themselves as free. but no. it's all the magic serum. Natasha spent most of her time in comics dealing with her past and her trauma. i get nothing from this movie. also, the widow program did use a bunch of scifi magic science, but the main focus was on how these girls were raised by the room and how loyal they were to it because they thought they were serving their government and saving their home. and because that was all the ever knew (just like Natasha). they weren't making black widows in this movie, they were making winter soldiers (yeah Natasha trained with Bucky but their situations while working for the Soviet union were very different). it's obvious they just wanted to make tem mindless killers because they couldn't imagine that other countries use their patriotism like the us does and turn people into weapons under the pretense of defending their government. it just sucks to take the agency away from the widows. when they stepped out of the KGB, they did it voluntarily, and it was a process. some of them didn't even leave and became trainers of the next generation.

I just think that this movie could be something if it was its own thing. but it's not. it's a rip off of comic names and concepts treated in the most boring and predictable way. and this is no black widow movie, these aren't black widow characters, this isn't natasha romanoff's story. it's natalie rushmore's

#i love writing 6 paragraphs lf negativity. #also yelena is gonna be in the hawkeye show apparently. i love it when all of my favorite characters suck in the mcu ❤️

[postmodernmulticoloredcloak]

Some thoughts about SteveBucky (and why it was deliberate in the CATFA and CATWS narrative)

As you might know, nowadays my approach to the MCU canon is pretty much on the lines of, the movies are Kevin Feige’s shitty fanfiction of a concept that could have been good and was attempted at intervals at the beginning at various levels but not executed, and the story and the characters are just suggestions I can play with in my mental sandbox.

But occasionally I like to listen to the Captain America: The Winter Soldier soundtrack to remember how it felt to be in love with that movie, and today that got me in the kind of mood where I am actually convinced that bisexual Steve and SteveBucky as a romantic dynamic were in fact written deliberately into the narrative, or, better, are structural elements of the narrative, because the emotional narrative is structurally made of parallels between the relationship between Steve and Peggy - the relationship of the past - and the relationship between Steve and Bucky - the relationship of the future - and it’s all too architectural in the narrative to not be deliberate.

In particular today I’ve been thinking about pictures. There’s the obvious parallel between the way the 40s story in CATFA and the body of CATWS end, one with Peggy looking at a picture of Steve before his transformation from a SSR file, while Howard tries to help by going looking for Steve, one with Steve looking at a picture of Bucky before his transformation from a Hydra file, while Sam offers to help go looking for him. But I’ve also been thinking about the scene in the Smithsonian in CATWS, and what the infamous picture of Peggy in the compass was about in that scene.

We assume that the compass was the only relevant object Steve had on himself when he crashed the plane and this was found; someone from Shield must have been, here we found this on you, take it back. Basically, it’s Steve’s only belonging in his new life. But here’s the irony: it’s a picture of a person (the only person of Steve’s smallest circle of people close to him) who is actually still alive.

The movie juxtaposes Steve’s visit to Peggy, alive and changed by time, to Steve’s visit to the secular altar to Bucky in the exhibition, crystallized in the past. It’s in fact an interesting detail that, in the museum scene, we only see pictures or wordless footage of Bucky, while we see footage of Peggy where she speaks; she has a voice in both the museum and real life, while Bucky doesn’t have a voice--we literally meet him masked and muted. (Peggy’s responsibility in what happened to Bucky, as the director of the organization Hydra flourished as a parasite of, is a potential the third Captain America movie could have tapped into, if they’d actually decided to make a third Captain America movie. RIP Captain America 3, we’ll never forget you. But this is is not relevant to this post.)

So, Peggy has lived - she has grown older, she physically carries the signs of the time she’s lived through, and even the footage in the museum shows her slightly older than we left her in the first movie, and in color, a deliberate emphasis that the footage was taken later than the time Steve left; Bucky, on the other hand, is unchanged, both in the museum and in real life. In the museum, assumed dead, he’s “frozen” in images from the past (in black and white); in real life, he’s literally been frozen to the point he’s not aged much.

Steve carries a black and white picture of Peggy with him, inside his compass, and the scene compares it with the footage - from a later time, in color, in motion, where Peggy has a voice. That Peggy from the compass is dead to Steve, and he mourns her just like he mourns the man whose black and white images are shown at the museum.

Except that the picture in the compass is something he can mourn privately; it’s, as we said, his only belonging. In fact, it’s ironic that he now has a picture of Peggy, and no one else. In the first movie, we see why: Steve and the Howling Commandoes went on missions on the frontlines of the war, Peggy belonged with the strategic command of the army. So Steve would keep a picture of her to remember her by as they were apart - it would make no sense for him to keep a picture of Bucky, because Bucky was there with him. It’s ironic because Bucky sees the picture and is jealous, but the point is that Steve doesn’t need a picture to remember him by when they’re together.

Of course, Bucky’s presumed death parts them. And Steve finds himself with no pictures of Bucky with him, and needs to visit the museum to mourn him in front of images of him. And this is an interesting point because Steve can mourn past Peggy privately - as he owns the compass with her picture, something that belongs to him and no one else has access to - but he cannot mourn Bucky privately, because he owns no object that connect him to Bucky, so he needs to go to a public place to be able to see an image of him.

In order to mourn Bucky properly, in front of a memorial of him, he is forced to do it in a place that not only is public, but is actually a place where his personal history is treated like a museum curiosity to put on display for everyone to consume.

There’s something deeply poignant in the fact that he hides, that he pretends to be someone else, in order to mourn his deceased male companion - the scene emphasizes that Steve does not want to be recognized, and the metaphor of him hiding his real identity to have an emotional moment regarding Bucky is not so subtle. (Yes, there is material of Peggy in the Smithsonian scene but the scene contains Steve’s visit to Bucky in parallel to Steve’s visit to Peggy in person, so I feel authorized to read the scene as mostly a visit to Bucky, especially since at the end of the movie Bucky also visits his own memorial there, emphasizing the cruciality of that picture in the narrative.)

In fact, the whole hidden identity to visit Bucky thing is not accidental because later, when he needs to confront Bucky, he steals his old uniform from the same exhibition: before finding out about Bucky, he wears incognito clothes to hide his identity, after finding out about Bucky, he reclaims a powerful sign of that identity - the uniform he wore when he fought alongside Bucky - basically breaking it out of the closet. It’s not a coincidence that earlier in the movie he wears a monochrome uniform meant to be unseen, either: the movie plays a lot on secrecy and openness regarding Steve’s identity, and the pivotal element in this narrative is Bucky. Steve reclaims his identity in parallel to trying to give Bucky’s identity back to him. It is a movie about identity and closets after all.

To go back to something I mentioned earlier, you have the contrast of the black-and-white picture of Peggy in the compass with the in-color, speaking, living Peggy; and that contrast highlights the deep difference between the two, because Peggy has lived a long life and grown older and changed. And then you have the contrast between the black-and-white picture of Bucky in the museum with the living Bucky, and in this case the parallel shows how little Bucky has actually been allowed to change, he’s been frozen in time, allowed no voice, allowed no change, no motion.

Steve, unlike Peggy, hasn’t gotten to live his life, but has been frozen in time, like Bucky. Shared life experience and all that jazz...

These fuckers (writers? directors? I don’t know) had the idea of writing two love interests for the titular character and framing the m/f relationship as the relationship of the past, and the m/m relationship as the relationship of the future, as one does, and built the emotional narrative on parallels between the two, and everything was fun and games until Disney Marvel ruined it all because they realized, I suppose. I mean, no, not everything was fun and games because things could have been written a lot better especially in regards of *gasp* female characters, that rarely work in the hands of misogynistic writers, but the two movies, with varying degrees of success, did something interesting (the theme of masculinity in CATFA is so fascinating) that was nice as long as it lasted. At least I’ll be thinking this until I get enraged at some shit they said and change my mind again. #saladforbucky

As always you’re welcome to share thoughts, questions, comments, whatever.

#my mcu thoughts #catfa #catws #steve x peggy #steve x bucky #stucky #stevebucky #idek #mcu

[medeafive]

You mentioned you don't get anon questions that often, but would you be open to them? I'd love to hear your thoughts on TFAWS, what you wish Buckynat could have been in MCU, or what you'd like to see in the comics, for them or other characters, but I don't want to bother you. Side note: am I the only one pissed off about how many characters are arbitrarily calling Bucky James? Especially Zemo? I can't be alone in that rage. Good day, nor night, if that's your case.

Sure, ask away! I don’t want to get into discourse(tm) on here because I hate arguing on the internet but I’ll gladly give my two cents.

I’m reserving judgement on TFATWS until I’ve seen the last episode. I’ve read quite a few critiques of the show that might very well be adressed in later episodes (especially à la not giving enough of a role to Sam/Sharon/whatever) so I don’t want to do that. However, because I’m always here to complain about Endgame, it fascinates me how much we learn about the world post the reversal of the Snap while we never learned much about the world in the five years after the Snap except for three shots in Endgame, and putting in such a monumental event and then hardly thinking about the consequences is dumb.

About Buckynat though!!! There are a lot of takes about how Marvel was never going to do them anyway and they were just leading us on and I don’t think that’s true. There were a lot of deliberate hints (Natasha is the first person to tell us about the Winter Soldier, he shot her with a Soviet rifle (in 2009!!), the she’s mine, the you could at least recognize me, the Romanoff locker, her Red Room teacher vaguely looking like him, they’re the only characters with a canon connection to Russia/the Soviet Union). I think they deliberately put in those hints to keep the possibility for that storyline open while keeping the hints so small they don’t have to go for it. Of course, I would have loved a Black Widow movie after CATWS where she goes looking for Bucky as he retraces their shared past, or one shot where she helps the Wakandans in dismantling his brainwashing or just checking in on him with Steve and Sam, but I was actually optimistic there could still be a chance for Buckynat if they choose to do it, since there was still so much of Bucky’s and Natasha’s past to deal and that would be a good opportunity to connect it with other characters we already know (each other). So I always thought it could be picked up in any future film if it fits the plot and the writers are interested in it and it wouldn’t have been a problem that it didn’t get mentioned so far because they can point to all these hints and we know we don’t know very much about these characters’ pasts. That’s of course until Nat died, and now all bets are off and I’m just pissed about that.

I can’t really say anything about the comics because I haven’t read that many - I keep meaning to get into the comics for real but I haven’t so far. Maybe this year.

You’re not alone about the James thing! I was also annoyed with that. Though I should say it’s not a bad choice story-wise, it’s just offensive to me personally. Same with giving the deprogramming scene to Ayo - it’s fine, it’s just that I wanted it to be Nat. On the other hand, I don’t mind Bucky flirting with other women at all, that just seems like a sign he’s getting back to himself :D

Okay, enough rambling, I hope that’s what you wanted to know! If not, feel free to ask more specific questions. I have to admit that Nat dying kind of killed my interest in canon so I take everything they’re doing now as a mere suggestion.

[laezelofkliir]

/post/184221536620/i-hate-the-russo-brothers-i-hate-the-russo why do u hate the russo bros ??

i posted that after seeing the endgame spoilers that came out after the world premiere last week, and while i regret and am apologizing for saying bad things about the movie before seeing it, i stand by this post because i really have not liked them post catws. the short answer to this question is that it really seems like they don’t care about what happened with their characters in the movies preceding theirs and ruin a lot of the really good characterization other directors had. plus they have very much contributed to the poor treatment of female characters but that’s kind of an mcu staple. it really seems like for every one good thing the russos do, they do about ten more bad things.

the long answer to this question is going under the cut because i am 100% going to rant and i am sorry but this is really gonna get into my unpopular marvel opinions and it will include endgame spoilers (they will be marked though). read at your own risk, i will try to warn if there is any “anti” characters or something. 

examples of how they ruin the characterizations other directors set in place:

wanda. look i’m just gonna say it now i don’t care for mcu wanda (even without discussing her whitewashing) so if you don’t want to read something written by someone who doesn’t like her, skip this bullet point … in age of ultron, wanda WAS WILLINGLY WORKING FOR A NAZI ORGANIZATION AND UNLEASHED THE HULK ON AN INNOCENT CITY AND PUT THINGS IN TONY’S HEAD THAT LED HIM TO CREATE ULTRON. in age of ultron though, it was fairly clear that the avengers didn’t fully trust wanda and pietro when they “switched sides” but immediately in civil war, the russos wrote it as if none of that happened. i would like mcu wanda so much more if she was given a real redemption arc, like loki in ragnarok, letting her answer for the things she previously did and proving that she is trustworthy and a true ally. the avengers immediately pardoned her, so much that it wasn’t even talked about clint is exempt because pietro saved his life and a child’s life and thus felt responsible for wanda because the russos just really want to get the brownie points for including a female hero that isn’t black widow

tony in civil war. they made it pretty obvious that tony was supposed to be an antagonist or at least someone you should root against. whether you were team cap or team iron man or you didn’t care because it was so stupid the movie was written pretty clearly to favor team cap and make tony look awful … even though he had a perfectly valid and reasonable argument for signing the sokovia accords … i mean they really do need to be held accountable for all of the destruction they cause. and yeah i agreed with cap too because they shouldn’t relinquish all control to the government, but the russos wrote it so that tony looked like the bad guy, when he really reallyyyyyy wasn’t

thor. poor, poor, beautiful thor. in ragnarok, thor went through a major character arc that allowed him to see that he is more than just the person who can wield mjolnir because he has had the power and strength to be a hero within him all along, then BAM russos say screw that in infinity war and make him go off on this whole mission that really was a waste of time to get a weapon that he doesn’t need to defeat thanos. yeah i’ll admit storm breaker is cool and i love that he got to build a relationship with rocket and kind of groot but it is just so unnecessary when they could have done something different to build that relationship, but it literally says fuck taika’s storyline for thor.

loki. in the first five minutes of infinity war they kill him off in the most un-loki-like way possible. taika did so much for the characters in ragnarok, giving loki a true redemption arc and adding valkyrie to the mcu as a strong and important character, but do the russos care about any of that? NOOOOOOOO.

ENGAME SPOILERS START HERE.

so they ruined steve. i am not accepting his ending. it really just is not him, because as we have seen from the past six movies, he will pretty much do anything for bucky. ANYTHING. and i know he loves peggy, peggy was the love of his life except bucky but marvel is full of cowards but he moved on from her, and she moved on from him. i mean agent carter was about peggy proving herself as more than just captain america’s girlfriend, and steve going back in time to be with peggy erases all of the character development peggy went through as well. honestly, i think the russo brothers did that because they knew people would likely be more upset with steve dying than tony dying (maybe i’m wrong, but just of all the marvel fans i know irl, they like steve more than tony. for the record, i would have been equally sad with either of their deaths because i love them both) and the russo brothers are fully aware of how big the stucky ship is, and this was their way of saying “hey, guess what? we didn’t kill steve and he is hetero, and there was Nothing There with bucky”. they made steve just reinsert himself into peggy’s life, when he KNEW she was happy without him and peggy had no choice in it. 

and as if they didnt do enough to thor in infinity war, they screwed him over EVEN MORE in endgame by making his only purpose to supply lazy fat jokes. there were so many other ways they could have depicted his depression, SO MANY WAYS, but they chose the lazy route of putting hemsworth in a fat suit and making fun of fat people the entire movie.

i can admit that they wrote carol well … but only when she was actually in the movie. i mean what she was there for maybe eight minutes?

and of course the lgbtq character was fucking joe russo as a glorified extra. queerbaiting that it was carol, thanks russos

ENDGAME SPOILERS END.

i really feel like i do need to clarify that i do love marvel and the mcu, and most of these characters just mean so much to me, but the way they are written and done dirty by the russo brothers when they were given such great developments before just ruin so much of it. and the russos actually do some great things, like as i said the rocket/groot/thor team up was awesome in infinity war, just what they were doing with said team up was undoing taika’s beautiful movie. the best way i can describe the russos is that they do one good thing for every ten bad things, and that’s that on that.

#im sorry if you dont like this #but asking me why i hate the russos is a LOADED question #anon #answered #endgame spoilers

[sizequeen1]

Marvel Movies from Worst to Best

Thor: The Dark World: Pure garbage. I honestly can’t remember anything about except how pissed I was that i wasted money on two tickets. Just an absolute waste of time.

Iron Man 2: This one seemed rushed, as if they had churn out a sequel as quickly as possible. Some inadvertent hilarity with Poor Mickey Rourke’s accent and costuming.

Captain Marvel : Terrible. Just the epitome of paint-by-the numbers-Marvel factory junk. Destroyed Nick Fury’s characterization. A poor story in which Carol’s secret is already revealed the audience before she knows it leaves the film devoid of suspense. Carol herself is just incredibly dull.  Her character makes no sense and her lack of connection to the other members of her group leave the betrayal she discovers at their hands limp and unemotional. Finally, at this point the anti-SJW crowd is being blatantly used to market films starring minorities and women and to encourage those who support films starring marginalized groups by tickets in groves to fight sexism and racism. The film industry knows that we think that we’re doing politics through buying movie tickets. And all we do is further enrich a bunch of wealthy white men.

 Ant-Man and Wasp: Every singe moment of possible pain or suspense is wrecked by the worst imitation Whedonesque humor.  The only saving grace is how nice everyone is.

Ant-Man: Luis is the only reason to rewatch this. It wastes every scrap of the inventiveness inherent in the premise.

Avengers: Age of Ultron: Honestly, not the worst film in the world but the plot and characterization of Tony Stark and the bland jaw droppingly bad romance between Bruce and Natasha is hard to recover from and the lack of consequences for Wanda beyond the death of her brother is a head scratcher. I did like Ultron though. He was appropriately creepy villain, and I got his motivation: Peace can only be achieved if humans are gone.

Thor: Meh. I think I rewatched this once. Thor’s wig is bad, the story is basic, and Natalie Portman is embarrassed to be there. Also, the Loki cult was born here, and I never got the appeal.

Doctor Strange: Who cares?  I just got nothing out of this. It’s not a bad movie at all and has lovely visuals but I have no interest in a sequel.

The Incredible Hulk: This movie was...fine? It was fine, It was decent. It was like a cafeteria pizza. Okay.

Spider-Man: Homecoming: Great casting can’t defeat the fact that this is the third go-round on this character in a decade. Despite this, the fact that destroyed the soul of the character by taking away his guilt over the death of his uncle, making the franchise a non-starter for me. Spider-Man isn’t Spider-Man without his pain. He also isn’t Spider-Man in a high-tech robot suit.  

Guardians of the Galaxy: I saw that the film was quality, but almost nothing made me laugh. I thought Gamora was such a boring warrior chick stereotype and Peter was just an unbearable man child. Drax made me alternately laugh with his literalness and wince at his sexism. The only characters I liked completely were Rocket and Groot. Rocket is a tragic figure. This is the only Bradley Cooper movie I could sit through. 

Iron Man 3 2013: I liked this one surprisingly well. The plot twists were great and we got to see who Tony is without the suit, and he is more than a philanthropist billionaire. I liked that Pepper got to fight and save Tony for once. The banter with Rhodey was also good. 

Captain America: The First Avenger: The end drags a bit, and the villain is disposable, but this is the Steve Rogers that I originally fell in love with. The first half creates a character that is indelible and moving as Christopher Reeve’  Superman.

Iron Man 2008: Some of this hasn’t aged well but I guess Tony was supposed to be a repulsive scumbag, but RDJ knocked the character out of the park.  Tony’s losses, his suffering, his betrayals, shaped him into a better man.  

Avengers: Infinity War: The film is solid, emotional, and the end packs a wallop. The only problem is that it is incomplete. 

 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: I didn’t bother seeing this in the theater since I was underwhelmed by the first one, but when I did see it, I was surprised by how moved I was by the story of fathers and sons and sisterhood, and surviving abuse.  They managed to take some pretty shallow characters, like Yondu, and create people whose lives and feelings I cared about. I got to know Gamora and Nebula, a seed that really comes to fruition in Endgame. In this film Gamora began to be a character for me beyond “reluctant love interest” and I came to understand the source of Peter’s childishness. The sexism and racism in the film are still jarring, and those aspects won’t age well.

Captain America: Civil War: Woo. Where do I start with this one. I actually thought they did a great job of expressing Tony and Steve’s philosophical differences although I know that these people are too smart to ever let it come to blows. There were real emotional stakes and consequences here to Rhodey’s health, Bucky’s freedom, and Tony and Steve’s friendship.The originl of Black Panther was entertaining and perfectly integrated into the film. The break up at the end felt genuinely heart breaking. It also had one of the best fights (Steve and Bucky vs. Tony) since the elevator fight in CATWS.

Marvel's The Avengers: Joss had a hell of a challenge in making this, the first real superhero team up, and he did an amazing job. He had to have costumed (no in all black leather) heroes on the screen and have the audience take this seriously. He had to make Loki scary enough to warrant the assembly of super heroes. He had to quickly get the audience up to speed on the characters.  The end battle goes long as these movies tend to, but all of the action told a story, was exciting to watch, and illuminated character.  Yes, Cap’s characterization is a little wonky, but this is the first version of Black Widow that felt three dimensional and the best, most accurate Bruce I have ever seen.

Black Panther: Great sets, costumes, characters and a unique story put this one high on the list, but the politics are wonky (they made the CIA the good guys WTF and portrayed Erik’s desire for revolution as sheer psychotic violence). In addition, the political mobilization around the film was disturbing to me. It scares me that black people think we’re doing politics by buying movie tickets that will just make a lot of rich white men even richer.The film also suffers from having an uninteresting protagonist.  I’m also concerned about the fact that it eliminates two out of three of BPs major antagonists (Klaue and Killmonger) and makes an ally out of the third.

Avengers Endgame:  I’m putting this third but honestly, I enjoyed every part of this movie from beginning to end. The Stony shippers, the Stucky people’s complaints, the time travel arguments? All of that shit perplexes me. I honestly thought the entire film made sense emotionally. The deaths made sense. Those who were brought back made sense. I don’t watch these films for scientific accuracy or to have my slash itch scratched. It was straight up fan service. I left the theater was a scratch in my throat from all my joyful shouting.

Thor: Ragnarok: Just spectacular. I found the first two Thor movies forgettable and didn’t bother watching this one in the theaters. Waititi took certain aspects of the character teased them out more fully and let Chris be Chris.  The visuals are gorgeous. I laughed. I cried.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier: Yeah, this is still the best Marvel Movie, probably because it feels least like a Marvel movie. It’s a tight spy thriller from start to finish. The last James Bond movie attempted a similar plot about government surveillance, and frankly crashes and burns. The plot, characterization, dialogue, and action in CAWTS in addition to being utterly fantastic, all work together to show how Steve is and is not getting along in the present. It shows me who Steve really is always will be the guy who fights for what’s right no matter what. This film brings Steve into the 21st century and he’s the same guy but somehow more so, and his old fashioned morality turns out to be exactly what we need. Finally: elevator fight.

#marvel #avengers #avengers endgame #movie list #movie review

[bithor]

☕ Daredevil ending

im SAD. while i do see why netflix moved to end the show (creative differences between netflix and marvel, the transfer of content to disney+, a wave of cancellations), from a fan’s point of view it’s heartbreaking. the show was doing so well and had such large following, and season 3 was considered one of its best! it also signifies the ending of more mature/adult-oriented content, as disney is geared towards kids and netflix doesn’t have to be. daredevil, jessica jones, luke cage - these shows have content that the mcu wouldn’t even consider incorporating, and raise themes that you rarely see in the mcu save for more real-world conflict movies (the first one that comes to mind is catws, which actually deals with corruption in the government as opposed to aliens) - and the end of daredevil is really the end of marvel producing this kind of content. that being said, i do think that of all the places to end it, season 3 is the best place. they’re going off on a high note, ya know? it’s their best season yet, and we’ve just had matt actually repair relations with his friends and form nelson, murdock, and page - with the exception of bullseye in surgery, the last episode is a very good way to wrap up an exceptional series. im still going to miss my disaster catholic bi, though :/

send me a “☕️” and something you want me to spill the tea on and i will

#this got LONG and repetitive oops #ask #personal #non mcu #anon #daredevil #Anonymous

[ohbeeones]

apologies in advance for the awkward way i’m posting my music rec list wes @rogersbf, tumblr is being a Butt and won’t let me post my rb of your post. : (

this is almost like preaching to the choir, but at least for marvel movies: my favorites are the scores for catws, catfa, thor 1... as well as bp & ragnarok! x-men: first class is a great one too! which is kinda ironic bc henry jackman did do the scores for catws/cacw lol. ramin djawadi is perhaps best known for GoT rn, but i also liked his work for iron man 1 & adoreeeee pacific rim (1 - he didn’t do the 2nd movie). danny elfman & hans zimmer are also really great too, but the superhero fan in me wants to rec Batman everything (which includes their movies too). oooh and michael giacchino!

i also really love the star wars soundtracks too! like. i cannot rec them enough. i think, speaking overall, revenge of the sith & rogue one are my favorite favorites, but just in general i ADORE ALL of them. this goes for the animated series too, btw. which are just as canon as the movies! the work that kevin kiner did for the clone wars & rebels is v underrated, imo.

let’s see....... as far as tv shows go, i find myself, allll these years later still listening to the avatar: the last airbender & the legend of korra scores. if you’re into anime, i’ve got a bunch of recs for that! (they’re all beginner friendly shows too, if anime isn’t your Thing).

OH and they’re all blanket recs, btw. none of these series have a bad song, imo.

-death note

-baccano! (i cannot stress this one enough!! it is legit my favorite series/score ever)

-darker than black

-your lie in april

-yuri!!! on ice

-fullmetal alchemist (2003) & it’s more faithful manga adaptation, fullmetal alchemist: brotherhood (2009)

-kids on the slope (aka sakamichi no aporon)

-cowboy bebop

-michiko & hatchin

(actually fun fact about the last 3: they all have a showrunner/director/producer in common, shinichirō watanabe, and i’ve heard good things about his other shows too! ALSO he has a frequent collaborator in yoko kanno, and this is me rec’ing all of her work that i haven’t already mentioned yet. lol)

omg this is getting real long, i need to cut myself off here cuz i can go on for hours. but you can always hmu if you need more! : )

#rogersbf #oh jeez what should i tag this as hmmmm #j's music rec list #???? #sounds good enough for me!

[antidotetogo]

Tagged by @fightmebucky, thank you!!

Rules: Answer the questions in a new post and tag blogs you would like to get to know better.

Nickname: The only ones people consistently call me are mispronunciations of my last name so I don’t want to put those on the internet, sorry kiddos

Star sign: Leo

Height: 5′10″

Time right now: 9:19 pm

Favorite music artist(s): One Direction, Bastille, Mikky Ekko, Jaymes Young, Troye Sivan, Hozier, Sam Smith

Last movie I watched: Bad Neighbors 2

Last TV show watched: Riverdale

What are you wearing right now?: Leggings that people call “my moon leggings” because the pattern is like the surface of the moon, a cropped baseball tee, and a flannel that is patterned blue camo

When did you make your blog?: My remake happened in January this year but I started on tumblr in 2013 or 2014 I think

What kind of stuff do you post: Marvel, One Direction, social justice, aesthetics, whatever TV shows/celebrities I am currently stanning

Do you have any other blogs?: Not anymore because I remade into just one :)

Do you get asks regularly?: Hahahahahaahahaha

Why did you choose your URL?: Because the scene with Steve in the Smithsonian in catws fucks me up real bad

Hogwarts house: Hufflepuff

Pokemon team: Instinct

Favorite color: Burgundy

Average hours of sleep: Totally depends, ranges between 6-10 hrs

Lucky number: 7 or 9 because they were my number when I played sports

Favorite characters: Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes, Natasha Romanoff, Gamora, Nate Archibald, Reggie from Rocket Power (she is such a feminist tbh), Hermione, Sirius, so many more tbh

Favorite public figure: Right now, probably Ariana Grande. Been stanning her for a few years lowkey and she is just a good person tbh

How many blankets do you sleep with?: I have a comforter with two blankets

Dream job: Author

I’m going to tag: @rainbowliam, @acefluxlouie, @kokoiki, and @cactinouis because we all interact but don’t talk much or at all and I’d love to know more about you guys :)

#the fav characters part was so hard tbh #i have so many #and i forget about so many because i am not actively consuming their media #ya know? #about me #personal

[itsdaisynow-moved]

Okay, look. Back in Season 1, when Agents of SHIELD changed its title card to the Hydra logo the first episode after CATWS? I shit myself. Not literally, of course, but goddamn. I was still riding my high from CATWS (which to this day I consider the greatest MCU film to date), and then seconds after we find out Ward's a traitor...logo change? Omfg. Shit got really real for me in that moment. I figuratively crapped my pants. And I know a ton of people share the sentiment. But it's been almost three years since then. In AoU, CACW, and even AoS itself, Hydra has been pretty thoroughly eradicated in the MCU over the last few years. Which is great, because it was a really interesting storyline back in Season 1 when it was new and fresh and exciting and just coming off of the greatest MCU film of all time, but by the end of Season 3, it was so tired and boring (I did not appreciate the "Hydra's actually been around since WAY before WWII and is actually a cult that worships this alien" retcon, btw--primarily because it made it even easier for the "But Hydra isn't a Neo-Nazi organization" peeps to make thrir point, because now that's canon, and eww. Ignoring the blatant attempt to separate Hydra from its Nazi roots, ty). Frankly, Hydra was starting to feel like a crutch to the show. So I was really relieved that it seemed like we were finally going to get to see what the show is like without Hydra, and I was also a little curious to see if it could stand without its crutch. And then...they find a way to bring back fucking Hydra! Agents of SHIELD cannot stand without its crutch: confirmed! At this point, not only are they finding ways to reuse old plots: they're reusing old freaking title cards. It didn't have the novelty this time. It just feels an awwwful lot like Marvel (both the comics and MCU) want to go back to 2014 right now, between this and the Hydra!Cap Secret Empire event that's set to start only about a month after Agents of SHIELD returns. Do you guys remember the marketing and ads that came out before CATWS? They're using very similar language in the solicitations for Secret Empire. Like, I get that CATWS was a great movie, groundbreaking, important, etc, but goddamn.

#ooc #anti aos

[postmodernmulticoloredcloak]

midnightsvoid

replied to your post

“so the fact that buckys last word before he died was steves name had...”

@postmodernmulticoloredcloak same I'm very hesitant using it but the way Steve and Bucky's relationship was used, giving that specific part of the fandom (which is pretty big if you ask me) that hope (despite the fact that most of us knew that it wont go canon) but they framed it that way and then the interviews and fan interactions in which they never completely confirmed and I'm not blaming the actors here cause even they could see how Stucky's relationship was.

@postmodernmulticoloredcloak the whole 'they're each others home' and whatnot it wasnt that the fans are delusional. Steve Bucky have been shown that way and yeah I'll say its definitely queerbaiting

Yeah, I am actually more comfortable applying the term queerbaiting to the promotional material from Marvel for his movie than a lot of queer-coding that gets yelled at on tumblr as queerbaiting (maybe I’m just old, but I’d rather have some good ol’ queercoding in a well-told narrative than explicitly gay characters thrown there to be there with no depth or a real understanding of the nuances of a queer identity).

I don’t blame the actors (like, c’mon, the pairing is 78% Chris and Sebastian looking at each other like that) because, like, that panel video of Chris is just him being a normal person until it clicks in his mind that what he’d filmed was a thing and he just burns 328 braincells in one go. Sebastian has a lot of bitterness for the way they’ve treated his characters and him, you can tell from the way he speaks even if he keeps a ‘light’ tone, nobody can blame him for being happy that the arc where Bucky is a function of Steve’s narrative is over, because we can well see how well that ended up for him.

I don’t know what the intentions of the director of CATFA were, but lbr, nowhere in the movie you see a single flicker of intention of not framing the S/B dynamic in a homoerotic-coded manner, rather the opposite. Heck, CATWS is super romantic but when it comes to homoerotic coding CATFA is... remarkable.

CATFA feels like a traditional queer-coding thing, you know? CATWS is... sort of weird because it feels like it goes overboard with it, and who the fuck knows what they had in mind, can you make accidental stuff in a movie with 4759 people working on every single detail of it? CACW definitely feels as a “uh, nope” turn from CATWS, and Endgame is a deliberate move to punish us for existing at all, like the nope wasn’t enough but they wanted to add the fuck you.

(Let’s not forget that MCU Bucky Barnes was conceived as a fusion of comics Bucky Barnes and Arnie Roth, and it shows, even if they tried not to make it show. I mean, they can’t have made that accidentally either.......??)

#midnightsvoid #not mcu friendly #queerbaiting #stucky #mcu