#the sins of the father

[witchmd13]

I'm haunted by feelings of things I can't remember

but what would I be without the ghosts?

The opposite of a haunting is something very lonely.

merlin, the sins of the father // the opposite of a haunting is something very lonely, katie maria.

#arthur and ygraine will kill me :) #arthur pendragon #ygraine de bois #merlin #webweaving #web weaving #the sins of the father #merlinedit

[closetsof-backlogged-dreams]

HI QUEEN!!!! thoughts on the vision morgause showed to arthur and her motivations/was she lying/ should Arthur have killed uther?

AHHHHHH IVE BEEN WANTED TO BE ASKED THIS AND I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT

alright so i think the first thing that needs to be considered is what her intentions were when she showed him the vision. i think the main consensus is that she wanted Arthur to kill Uther, and while i agree, i think Morgause deserves a few more layers than that. i genuinely think Morgause wanted the truth to be known.

imo, from what we've seen, Morgause is extremely similar to Morgana. in the early seasons, Morgana is justice with kindness. Morgause is justice without. Later, we watch Morgause slowly "corrupt" Morgana and watch her lose her kindness, turning her into the heartless villain she is by season five.

i think Morgause, while not out of the deep goodness of her heart, saw the injustice, and wanted it to be corrected. this manifested mostly in the form of Uther's death, but i do believe a small part of her just wanted the truth to be known :)

whether or not she was lying is something we will never truly know, but she could have been lying about two different things, and i want to attack them separately.

i 100% believe she wasn't lying about Uther using magic for Arthur's birth. i've wondered A LOT how the fuck she knew though, because sorry, who told her?? and merlin is the show it is, so it doesn't tell you these things, but there are enough breadcrumbs left behind so that we can assume she was a pupil of Nimueh's and learned of it from her.

but whether it was actually a vision of Ygraine? i really don't know. i'm not going to lie, the first time i saw the scene, it gave me all the wrong vibes. the ghost of Ygraine is able to meet her son for >5 minutes and one of the maybe two things she says to him is about how Uther used magic to birth Arthur and it killed her?? i don't know. it's strange.

but we also have to remember that we actually don't know anything about Ygraine! honestly, the fandom and fics tend to mention her x10 more than the actual show does. Arthur hardly speaks of her, as well as Uther, and we have to remember that this is the man who essentially killed his wife and is forced to live with that every goddamn day and is 100% romanticizing the woman she was—and then all Arthur has ever heard of her is this romanticized version from his father, and this is the dead mother he's never met. he's going to do some embellishing of her own.

so, for all we know, Ygraine was a terrible person. we really don't know. so i have no conclusive answer to whether or not Morgause was lying about it being a vision, and i think the show actually intended it that way. because that doesn't actually matter. what Ygraine said—that's the truth. the cold, honest truth. whether it actually came from his mother or from a false mimicry of her doesn't actually matter.

another thing i find really interesting is that while Morgause was obviously trying to provoke Arthur with this information and was clearly manipulating him, she really didn't take any extreme steps to ensure he killed Uther. this was also her first step to bring down Uther. it's almost like she tried to find the most moral option she could that dealt the fairest form of justice, and only when it failed was she forced to resort to more gruesome, hands-on approaches.

it also really doesn't seem like she has anything against Arthur in the beginning, which is so fascinating to me, but moving on lol.

now for the BIG one:

should Arthur have killed Uther in The Sins of the Father?

god, this one is hard, because you have to consider it from all angles.

from an objective, justice-based standpoint, you could say that Morgause was absolutely in the right in all of this, and that after learning this information, it was Arthur's duty to kill his father. his father killed his own wife due to his desperation for an heir, and then spent half a lifetime destroying an entire culture and group of people in an attempt to stem his guilt.

so, yes. Arthur should have killed his father, if we're viewing this from the eyes of pure justice.

but for Arthur's own conscious? from a political standpoint? absolutely the fuck not. it would have destroyed Arthur. even when Uther died season four, he was a wreck, so imagine if it has been Arthur. dear god.

and then imagine being an average citizen of Camelot, for whom Uther was probably an alright to not great king, but no one who deserves death, and learning that your beloved Prince Arthur committed patricide and his now king? jesus. that's not how you establish good subject-monarch relations.

and if enemy kingdoms heard about it? god, all the knights must be horribly divided, because most of them swore themselves to Camelot and its royalty, but who the hell do you stand with when your two royals tried to kill each other and one of them was successful? enemy kingdoms would attack, and with their armies as divided as they'd be, who knows how that'd go.

so overall, no. i genuinely believe Arthur shouldn't have killed his father. but that doesn't mean that Uther didn't deserve death.

anyways, i think that's all! this was a lot of fun, and tysm for the ask once again <3

#merlin meta #merthur #merlin #bbc merlin #bbcm #merlin thoughts #merlin discussion #morgause #the sins of the father #arthur pendragon

[arcanespillo]

The Sins of the Father, Merlin S2E8

Defending Your Life, Supernatural S7E04

#THIS MAY LOOK NOTHING TO U BUT ITS everyhtin g to me #i love them and i think. #I THINK #uther john morgana sam arthur dean I THINK THAT #supernatural #spn #dean winchester #spn screencaps #jensen ackles #jo harvelle #arthur pendragon #supernatural x merlin #? #help we get a name i have more of these. #bbc merlin #the sins of the father #2x8 #defending your life #spn 7x4 #bradley james

[roosterlasagne]

This is set during and right after s2ep8. Arthur finds out about how his mother died from Morgause and Merlin stopped him from killing his father.

In this timeline Arthur suspects that Merlin has magic and doesn't share Uther's hatred of magic. Maybe he's a little suspicious, because so many sorcerers have wanted to kill him. But he's coming around.

When Merlin stops him from killing Uther, he still breaks down and let's his father hold him. But he knows Merlin is lying, and he knows why he is lying, he knows he would regret killing his father, beginning his reign with patricide.

He holds on to that contempt for his father, all the bottled up anger from watching his father ruthlessly kill innocent magic users, especially children. So when he learns of the next assassin out to kill his father, and can read in Merlin's eyes, alone in his chambers, that he will go out to kill the assassin, he tells Merlin to do nothing. He tells him to act as if the assassin didn't exist. Someone will either kill them before they get to kill Uther, or they will be successful, a knight then avenging his king. Nobody can blame Arthur or Merlin for Uther's death if they were none-the-wiser.

When this happens, Merlin and Arthur have many conversations. Arthur had to divulge his suspicion of Merlin's magic, how else would he know Merlin was going to save his father. And while the assassin fulfils their job, Arthur and Merlin sit in the quiet chambers, talking about nothing and everything.

When a knight knocks on Arthur's door to tell him of the King's passing, neither Arthur nor Merlin are surprised. He may not feel bad about his father's death, but Uther was his father and grief still finds a place in Arthur's heart. But Merlin is there, with warm hands to hold his heart, beating slowly for the love he held for his father. And it will all be alright. Because innocents won't have to suffer anymore. And Arthur has Merlin, and Merlin has Arthur.

#bbc merlin #merlin #arthur pendragon #merthur #uther pendragon #The Sins of The Father #merlin x arthur #merlin headcanons #merthur fanfic #ficlet

[fluffypotatey]

God, watched "Sins of the Father" last night and I. Just. Love. How the writers were like, "Ah, yes, let's finish out this episode with the most violent upheaval of Arthur's relationship with Uther. There is no need to mention this again."

Like, yeah, I get it, Merlin lied and stopped Arthur from killing King Cunt, but STILL. It happened. Arthur and Uther have had disagreements before, but those were small potatoes. Arthur challenged his father, the King, to a fight to the death. He was actively trying to kill his father. And that....had no effect on him? Or Uther?

Arthur doesn't always agree with Uther, and he does disobey him when he has to, but I don't think he ever would imagine himself capable of hurting his father, let alone killing him.

And Uther, being the manipulative, abusive piece of shit he is, was probably 100% certain Arthur would never turn on him, the same way any abusive parent is confident in their power over their victim.

But it happened.

And that's just........not important?

bestie.....are you sure you want the open that can of worms with me

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NO BECAUSE LISTEN I HAVE TOO MANY THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ABOUT THIS

imma holler @nextstopparis because they have bombass posts and meta about exactly this

anyway

yes bestie so true, we have seen in s1 and s2 that arthur is capable of having a little rebellious streak but not enough to truly slight his father because (despite his shitty and abusive uther is) arthur still loves him. arthur has craved uther's approval since day one. all he gets from uther is stunted shoulder pats and "you're my son" kind of affection. which, you know, explains SO MUCH about why arthur is emotionally constipated, compensates his emotions into hyper-masculinity, and a grade A jock.

we know arthur seeks uther's approval and just wants uther to be proud of him. motherfucker (uther) literally in episode 2 of s1 "stops by Arthur on his way to the stands and speaks to him in a low voice" about he "trust [Arthur] will make [him] proud" like bitch???? way to stress out your child.

tips on how to emotionally abuse/keep your child wanting you love

always makes sure you pressure them into making you proud

place conditions on your love (trust = love = pride for son = no longer disappointed = no longer sees arthur as the cause of ygraine's death oop did i type that)

move them away and speak in a low threatening voice because self image matters and your child would never risk that

undermine your child's worth to exterior factors, aka things your child never had a say in (being a captain/high ranking knight at 15, being the son of your dead wife, telling them to grow up when they literally are acting their age)

enforcing patriarcal ideals such as only encouraging stoicism for arthur because feelings are for weaklings and dismissing morgana's opinions for 'outbursts'

howdy folks! welcome to the uther sucks club and why the hell did bbc just ignore arthur's very understandable anger towards uther in s2 ep8

we will not touch arthur's self loathing blame for his mother's death because i will derail from this post

what happened in s2 ep8???? i'm so glad you asked

it is revealed that uther pendragon's reason for committing genocide for over 20 years boils down to a highly dangerous spell that he forced the high priestess nimueh to cast on his wife (who wasn't aware of the spell in the first place) so she could become pregnant and grant him an heir.

uther, the caricature of the british empire himself, caused the death of his queen then turned around and blamed a whole community of innocent people because "magic is evil and shouldn't be trusted" and "when you know one sorcerer, you know them all"

arthur, daddy issues galore, is understandably pissed and enraged. why, you ask? because for years he believed it was his birth that led to his mother's death

ARTHUR I'm so sorry. YGRAINE You have nothing to be sorry for. ARTHUR It was my birth that caused you to die.

ok so we are actually gonna discuss this

FOR 20 YEARS THIS MAN BELIEVED HIS FATHER'S GRIEF WAS HIS FAULT

AND YOU KNOW WHAT

UTHER NEVER CORRECTED HIM! UTHER NEVER SAID ANYTHING TO CONTRADICT ARTHUR'S INTERNAL STRUGGLE!

WHY YOU ASK????

BECAUSE THEN ARTHUR WOULD STAY LOYAL TO HIM, BECAUSE THEN ARTHUR WOULD DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO PROVE THAT HE COULD 'right this old wrong' EVEN THO IT WAS NEVER HIS FAULT!

ahem

and then arthur learns the truth. arthur learns that ygraine's death was never his fault. ygraine's death was all because uther pendragon "was so desperate for an heir". that was all uther cared about.

ARTHUR This is what fuels your hatred for those who practice magic. Rather than blame yourself for what you did, you blame them.

ARTHUR How many hundreds have you condemned to death to ease your guilt?

ARTHUR You speak of honour and nobility! You're nothing but a hypocrite and a liar!

do you think....after arthur learned the truth, he remembered all of morgana's old arguments that went ignored by uther? he could hear her voice, filled with self-righteousness and selfless anger about how uther always placed the blame on others, projected fear and hatred to those who were innocent. do you wonder if arthur thought of morgana as he spewed those words to uther?

and then he is told that morgause lied to him. that the ygraine he saw was actually an illusion meant to divide camelot. arthur is told that the ygraine he saw who told him that holding him was "the most precious" moments of her life was nothing more than a lie.

so, what does mean for arthur? does that mean that it truly was his fault that ygraine died? does he go back to blaming himself?

or

is there still that doubt of his father's ruling that lays restless inside of him? does he watch his father more closely and how he reacts to magic crimes compared to non-magical? does he begin to confide in morgana more because she, too, understand this kind of anger he feels nestled inside of him?

but we don't get that

what we get after this is a week or maybe more of a time skip where gwen is kidnapped and the show tries to further the arwencelot love triangle (and i mean, i'm not against the love triangle, it's just...timing my dude)

it just goes ignored by the show like it wasn't a big deal that arthur was ready to commit regicide (unlike morgana), like it wasn't a big deal that merlin lied to arthur like that and didn't feel conflicted, like it wasn't a big deal that uther's Purge began because of misplaced anger.

no, instead, arthur is back as his snarky and uptight self who never again thinks back to what happened when some big plot is heading his way. and so the show never dives back into that. mentions of arthur's mother don't come back until s4 but that's with agravaine and i do not have the time for that man.

this episode really seemed like it was supposed to lead to a shift in arthur's character, and yet it didn't. it was just...never touched on again and i will never forgive them for that

#long post #excuse me while i go off #i brought receipts (transcipts) #bbc merlin #arthur pendragon #uther pendragon #anti uther #we do not stan that man in this household #not to mention that this is the ep where arthur doubts his father's views on magic bc morgause is granting him this chance to see his mom #he has already doubted his father's views on class (lancelot) & duty (going to help merlin even if his presence could cause war w/ Essetir) #and then he learns that his father LIED #uther lied about magic users for 20 fucking years and didn't care #all he cared about was that the spell didn't work the way he wanted and decided that a whole community of ppl deserved to be wiped out #arthur is devasted bc you know what that means?????? #that means that when arthur raided that druid camp all those years ago as a young captain of the knights its purpose was never moral #arthur aided his father and his father LIED ABOUT IT #the sins of the father #s2 ep8 #2.08 #i'm not sorry but also i am sorry that the post is a little long #merlin meta

[kaleidoscope1967eyes]

Dark Prince Luke Thoughts™

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Tagging: @stonegoldsxcrxt, @myevilmouse, @dexthtoyounglings, @laserbrains, @ancient-stardust, @hansonveggieclub, @fandom-gal44

Dark Prince Luke is a total girl dad. As the future leader of the Empire, he is required to produce at least one heir to prolong the Palpatine dynasty. This obviously places a large burden on you and Luke recognizes that--it was the reason why your marriage was arranged in the first place. To make up for it, he dotes on and absolutely worships you throughout your entire pregnancy, and he's there for you every step of the way.

Over time, one heir turns into multiple heirs, and guess what? They're all daughters!

Naturally, Luke is a very protective father, and his protectiveness is only amplified by the fact that the Empire is a traditionally male-dominated space. He raises them to know their worth and makes sure that everyone treats them with utmost respect.

Despite the constant burden of his Imperial duties--and his lack of a true and/or positive father figure--he makes sure to be equally as involved in parenting as you are. If you ever need a day (or multiple days) off, he'll gladly take over and let you rest. He's read every single parenting manual he could get his hands on, so he knows the importance of finding the balance between being involved and giving his children the room they need to grow. Because he's so patient and gentle, however, he's a total pushover; when it comes to decision making, he looks to you as the ultimate authority.

Luke is also fully equipped to handle all of the girly things that come with raising daughters (doing their hair, period stuff, etc.), but he also doesn't force gender roles upon them. He always encourages them to explore their interests and express themselves as they please. Most of all, he teaches them to be kind, intelligent, and confident leaders, and he is so proud of them--and you!

#Dark Prince Luke Thoughts™ #luke skywalker x reader #luke skywalker headcanon #luke skywalker imagine #luke skywalker x you #luke skywalker x fem!reader #dark prince!luke x reader #emperor!luke x reader #luke palpatine #the sins of the father #dad!luke skywalker #cw: pregnancy #luke grew up in a mostly-female household so he's one of the gworls 💅 #my fic

[cabbageheadss]

Morgause in The Sins of the Father (S2E8)

for @lesbianhaleth

#I know I promised you this months ago so this is probably a surprise... so surprise! #morgause #emilia fox #bbc morgause #2.08 #the sins of the father #bbc merlin #merlinedit #sia's gifs

[pippin-katz]

Morgause Ruined Her Chance

Alright, I’m wanna talk about Morgause’s original plan. This is purely from a speculation perspective and not a complaint toward the actual show! There’s nothing wrong with the canon events, but I had a thought and I wanted to share it.

We know Morgause’s original plan was to get Arthur to meet her at her temple or whatever you’d call that place. It’s not the Isle of the Blessed, but it resembles it a bit. She proves him a man of his word and grants him his “wish” to see his mother.

Obviously, Ygraine tells him how he was born; that it was his father used magic, and it was his fault she died. Morgause knows this and is right in believing that learning this will make Arthur furious toward Uther. She wanted him to go and kill him. She feeds his anger perfectly, saying how it is an unimaginable betrayal that his father would do that and lie about it. She’s right, and Arthur almost kills him before Merlin stops him.

Here’s my thought:

When Arthur is there and Morgause is preparing the spell, he says out loud “surely not all those who practice magic are evil” and whatnot. She definitely could hear him. He’s also shown her that he’s a man of honor and nobility. I think she does respect him a little bit at this point.

Now, we know why Morgause wants Uther dead, but Arthur is right there. He’s the next king of Camelot. He’s the Once and Future King, destined to unite Albion and bring back magic.

He’s saying right there that magic can be used for good, that not everyone is evil. He learns through his mother of the hypocrisy of Uther and his slaughter of magic users. He is definitely not okay with it.

Obviously he’s angry and he’s gonna kill Uther, but she knows that will destroy Camelot. That’s part of her plan at that moment.

But what if she had talked him down rather than pissed him off more? Morgause has his attention and his respect. If she had talked to him about it, she could’ve established a true level of trust and educated him about magic.

Hell, if she’d taken that route, Merlin might been able to confess his magic right there, to help prove the idea that magic isn’t inherently evil.

Morgana hadn’t completely turned against Camelot yet. She only does that when Merlin poisons her, which only happened because Morgause uses her as the vessel for the spell with the knights. If Arthur was going to accept magic, and was her ally, she wouldn’t need to attack Camelot that way.

Arthur could’ve left with Merlin, clear headed and with a real plan of how to stop Uther’s killing, in a way that wouldn’t have resulted in regicide or destroyed the kingdom.

Boom! Magic restored! Happy ending! Yay!

But no, instead Morgause chooses the revenge route, and we all end up depressed lmfao

#merlin #merlin bbc #bbc merlin #merlin thoughts #morgause #arthur pendragon #merlin 2x08 #the sins of the father #the once and future fandom

[bbcmerlinbracket]

Episode descriptions below the cut (contains spoilers).

2x08 The Sins Of The Father

Morgause beats Arthur in a duel to the death, but spares his life in exchange for a magical meeting with his dead mother. The truth she tells him about his birth has Arthur raging back to Camelot to kill his father.

4x01 The Darkest Hour Part 1

Morgana sacrifices Morgause to tear open the veil between the worlds, releasing deadly monsters and learning that her destiny is to be killed by Emrys. Arthur, Merlin, and the knights go on a quest to close the veil, but the monsters catch up with them and Merlin sacrifices himself to save Arthur.

2x09 The Lady Of The Lake

Merlin saves a Druid girl with a nasty curse from a bounty hunter and antics ensue as he keeps her in hiding and smuggles her Arthur’s sausages and Morgana’s dresses. They start to fall for each other, but her curse gets in the way and their dreams of running away together are not meant to be.

#bbc merlin #merlin #polls #tumblr bracket #merlin show #merlin emrys #arthur pendragon #morgana #uther pendragon #morgause #merthur #knights of the round table #the sins of the father #the darkest hour part 1 #the lady of the lake

[dncingthrghlife]

i love how javier bardem just gave the most wooden performance for the only character to have development in the little mermaid (2023)

homie was like, “i am an oscar winning dramatic actor and i am playing against an empty void and a tennis ball. you will get an equally empty and lifeless line read from me”

i don’t blame him, though. i would also take disney’s money and burn anything i could down in my wake

#the sins of the father #namely #disney #sorry #ahem #d*sney #the little mermaid #tlm 2023 #king triton #javier bardem

[closetsof-backlogged-dreams]

tiptoeing my way into your ask box: should merlin have revealed his magic in the sins of the father episode

THE WAY I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THIS ASK😭😭😭😭 mbbb but im here now!!! so hi:))

ok so this is the second ask youve sent me that ive literally never thought of once in my life so prepare youself for a brainDUMP

my answer is completely and irrevocably: yes. i can't imagine myself having another opinion on it, because i think you found the only episode in the entire series where a magic reveal would have been a natural and understandable choice, by both the writers and the characters (except for of course the last episode, but i have many feelings on the execution of the actual magic reveal, of which are for another ask lol).

but because im an unnecessary bitch, i'm going to answer this question twice with the same answer (why? because im a nuisance to everyone around me, thats why) by interpreting the question differently. the first interpretation? should merlin have revealed his magic in the sins of the father, as in should MERLIN have revealed his magic. was that the right decision for him to make in this episode? would that have ended in the best outcome? would that have improved the situation? just morally, was that the right choice to make?

i thought about it, and at first i was torn, because arthur was a wreck at this point. he felt angry, betrayed, devastated, and rightfully so. is this really the best time for his best friend of probably over a year, by this point, to admit to him that he was born with magic? and while this definitely would have been a tricky time to do it, i think this is the only episode in which arthur shows completely empathy and compassion towards magic. for once in this series, he doesn't blame magic for all the wrongs in the world, or even reservedly believe that magic may not be a thing to persecute for but can certainly never be trusted—he is fully open to magic and believes that every negative thing he ever knew of it, all stemming from his father, is completely wrong. obviously, this is because he took his hatred for magic and swapped it with his respect for his father due to the switched roles they had in his life (magic: the deceiver, the killer, the villian; uther: the protector, the victim, the hero; but yk, swapped in this episode) but that doesn't make his open mind to magic (IN THIS EPISODE!!) any less real.

so, ik that was a lot lol, but if merlin had told arthur about his magic at this point, i think itd be one of the only times when that revelation would cause arthur to feel angry and betrayed not really because of the magic, but because merlin hadn't told him. and i'm sorry, at any other point in the series, imo, that wouldn't be true. the deception itself may be the root of the hurt, but the magic would just be salt in the wound.

and!! not even to mention the fact that arthur was going to kill uther. instead of lying to him, merlin should have admitted that he has magic, told him not to kill him, explained whatever information he knew (yk, about nimueh or literally anything because he definitely knew more than arthur did, atp). would arthur have felt the betrayal twofold? of course, but i do think that this would have hit him hard enough to stop on his rampage to kill uther. it definitely would have been difficult to get him to STOP long enough to tell him lol, but i think merlin could have done it. all in all, it definitely would have been difficult to execute, but i think overall it would have been the right choice for all the right reasons.

now, onto the second interpretation of the question: should merlin have revealed his magic in the sins of the father, as in the WRITERS should have revealed his magic. and that answer is a resounding fucking YES!!!! im so so sorry, but merlin and arthur's relationship was ridiculous. i can (and will with the slightest prompting) go into an insane amount of depth and detail into why i hate their relationship development despite being obsessed with their dynamic (most of the time) and why i think as the MAIN DUO OF THE ENTIRE FUCKING SHOW deserved better, but i'll try to keep it short and sweet. in season one, their relationship was developed almost perfectly. sure, there definitely should have been more time from the first episode and onwards of actual contempt between them, but besides that i think the writers really did a very good job at building their relationship and dynamic.

then comes the giant fucking spiky, iron wrecking ball that is season two. immediately, all the trust and obvious affection and friendliness built in the first season just... disappears. i honestly think that a change in their dynamic was necessary! but with the current canon, there is absolutely no reason for it, and the changes that there were, quite frankly, sucked. they were completely unnecessary. but start off season two with them being all chummy and just genuinely good friends, and merlin starts to feel guilty for not telling arthur about his magic. (that's another thing about this goddamn show. i honestly can't think of a single time merlin expressed any actual guilt for lying to arthur about his magic for an entire fucking decade?? for the most part, all he expresses his fear at the possibility of arthur finding out, which makes me want to kick scream chew on someones eyelids and just generally maul someones face, but whatever ig. but this guilt could definitely result in some distance and loss of trust, and then it keeps building and building and building until... BANG! fucking magic reveal!!

its also perfect for the reason that, im sorry, i dont believe for a fucking second that season one arthur (MY arthur, thanks) would even LET merlin not tell him about his magic for TEN GODDAMN YEARS. he would sniff that shit out and wait patiently for merlin to spill before confronting him after like a month. because in season one, arthur definitely wasn't ready for a magic reveal. they weren't close enough, there wasn't enough trust, arthur hadn't grown enough yet, all the things. but season two? proved the perfect opportunity for all that to happen, and then on you can have ACTAUL GOOD CONFLICT instead of the entire conflict being "oh well merlins secret🥺" ........................SHUT THE FUCK UP

anyways, i think thats my whole opinion?? overall i just really think that the magic reveal should have happened longgg before the finale and this episode is the absolute perfect place for it to occur:)) thank you sm for the ask!! i had a lot of fun with this one if you couldn't tell lol. sorry for forgetting about it😭😭 so glad your back tho, and cant wait to have you lurking in my inbox again!!!

#merlin #the sins of the father #merthur #bbc merlin #bbcm #arthur pendragon #merlin bbc #bbc merthur #merlin analysis #merlin thoughts

[basicallyanotherwitchesthing]

John Blackburn - The Sins of the Father - Jonathan Cape - 1979 (jacket design by Graham Tucker)

#witches #sinners #occult #vintage #the sins of the father #jonathan cape #john blackburn #graham tucker #1979 #sins #father #blackburn

[merlin-knights]

The Sins of the Father (Merlin, 2x08)

@bbcmerlinbracket

#BBC Merlin #Arthur Pendragon #the sins of the father #merlin 2x08 #merlin gifsets #not my gifs

[16woodsequ]

I've probably read your sins of the father series a few hundred times. It's so good. The way Steve is so hesitant to admit that he was actually hurt by all of it, the way Bucky is just instinctively protective of him, the way he stops being protective the second Steve tells him to, JEEZ. I just had to gush about it.

I swear I almost died from happiness reading this! Thank you so much!

It is always such a nice reminder knowing how much people love series that I wrote. I remember I was nervous posting that first story because it was different from anything I'd posted before but I really liked the idea.

I'm so glad you like it as much as I do! I'M ACTUALLY WRITING ANOTHER PART OF THAT SERIES RIGHT NOW! I've been working on it for a few months and I think I'm almost done!

This gave me so much motivation to continue!! :D Thank you ^^

#ask #anon #the sins of the father #fanfic #fanfiction

[weakforarwen]

The Sins of the Father

This episode would’ve been worth something had Merlin not intervened and lied to Arthur about Uther. Arthur had actually accused Uther of hunting down those with magic like animals and causing “so much suffering”. To go from that to Arthur once more believing everyone with magic was evil, was a huge misstep. This episode is mid-season 2! The characters have barely evolved since the pilot! This show really thought Arthur could hate magic throughout its entire run and still become the King that would unite Albion? Bullshit. 

All this episode accomplished was introducing Morgause and her and Morgana’s relationship, and exposing Uther’s hypocrisy. This would’ve been enough had it not undone all of Arthur’s growth and made a fool out of Merlin. This is one of the most infuriating episodes of the series. It’s no wonder I despised Merlin in the beginning. The writers really thought they could keep Arthur in the dark forever? Was that really their plan? Every season it’s the same: Arthur comes to a point where he’s willing to accept magic yet, for one reason or another, Merlin fucks it up and we’re back to square one. The only person Merlin helped were Arthur and Uther. It’s hard not to see him as a traitor to his kind. 

There’s nothing else to say about this episode. It’s just a disappointment.

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[none-ofthisnonsense]

Merlin S2E8, “The Sins of the Father”

Okay so a sorceress is interested in Arthur. I’m not sure in which way.

So a knight slaying everyone in their way and making their way to the castle.

Ohhh they’re challenging Arthur. 

Morgana looks intrigued.

OH IT’S A WOMAN, AND NOT JUST THAT, ALSO THE ONE WE SAW AT THE START

Okay so Morgana knows her. Maybe.

TO THE DEATH? DAMM

Oh he’s lost. Didn’t expect that.

Morgause is at least an honourable opponent.

Their voices are both similar and not.

…lesbians?

Uhhh why is Morgause in Morgana’s room? When Morgana is sleeping?

What’s cool about Morgause is that she’s not mysterious at all.

Oh those guards must know SO MUCH STUFF and so many conversations.

I have a feeling this won’t end well.

Okay I’ll admit I laughed at Arthur falling into dung.

I love Merlin’s deadpan humour.

Gaius is kind and nice and I like that about him.

Oh. Arthur never knew his mother… I’m sorry for him.

The boys are bonding!! It’s really nice to see a sincere conversation.

Okay so they’re not lesbians. Definitely not. They still have insane interactions though.

Pretty lake!

Eeeeeeeerie. I don’t like this. But Merlin is funny. MORGAUSE DON’T DO THAT TO ME

Okay I was scared there for a while. Thought we’d get a repeat of the s1 finale.

ARTHUR IS CHANGING HIS BELIEFS ABOUT MAGIC OPENLY(ish) THIS IS NOT A DRILL

Morgause had an incredibly melodious voice she could enchant me and I’d thank her

Arthur finally getting to see his mother…

So this is how he learns.

Colin Morgan is SUCH a good actor!!

Last episode and now this one? NO punches pulled.

Arthur is the best swordsman in Camelot.

Oh that hurts for Merlin to say. Both for him to say to Arthur (also because he’s lying) and as a magic user. 

This episode is Arthur-centric but really showcases Colin Morgan’s acting ability.

I don’t think Merlin will forgive himself.

Arthur is backtracking. This could not get any worse.

Uther thanking Merlin personally??? What is going on?!

I kind of want a fic where Arthur does kill Uther in this episode.

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