#this post isn't targeting anyone

[antisociallilbrat]

What Polyamory Does For The It Fandom VS In The St Fandom.

These are some brain worms I've had for a while and I've decided to share, regardless if it makes some people mad. Although that is truly not the intent of this post. Anyways. If you haven't been in the It fandom and only have stayed in the St fandom this post may not make sense but I do encourage you to read it.

I joined the It fandom in 2017. I'm one of those few people who were in the It fandom first before moving over to also join the St fandom in late late 2017/early 2018. I had a blog for consuming content but I didn't start making content until 2020 for the It fandom and more recently and regularly for the St fandom. Anywho what I'm trying to say is that I've seen a lot.

I loved many ships in the It fandom and one of the main ships is Poly Losers Club. This is the first fandom I've seen where a poly ship was one of the more popular ones. Even if someone didn't ship all the Losers, throuple and quatrouples (is that how you say it?) have always been popular in this fandom.

Because it is almost unanimously agreed across the fandom, that whether platonically or romantically, all the Losers love each other. Even the most die hard of reddie shippers, the fandom's most popular ship, can often agree on certain fanon headcannons, Stan and Richie practiced their first kiss on each other, Eddie's first crush was on poor oblivious Bill. And that comes back to the agreement that all the Losers love each other. Ships in this fandom have never had an issue coexisting. If someone shipped something different from someone it was always more like "oh that's not my favorite but I definitely see where you're coming from'" OR they're like "yeah no they're in love too," Hardly ever any belittling or any superiority complexes.

That's what makes being in this fandom fun and easy.

Poly Losers even often features a gay man and a women and I've read many beautiful fics where this is explained as they're more best friends than lovers but Eddie doesn't love Bev any less because she's a woman. This fandom allows Eddie and Bev to have an amazing and emotionally intimate relationship because I feel like this fandom does understand, for the most part, that platonic love is just as important as romantic love.

Now on to the St fandom. There are some poly party shippers out there but they are far and few. And there is SO MUCH shipping discourse. Yes I could talk about Mileven and Byler but come on, it goes beyond that. It's with Jany and Stancy, Ronance and Rockie. Elmax and Lumax, and Steddie and Stonathan. Just about every ship you think of there is an alternate ship that people will fight for. They will belittle you for shipping something they don't, and insist that your ship is nothing but platonic. That,,,that just doesn't happen in the It fandom. You know the joke, "All the Losers had a crush on Bill at one point," I think that in itself says a lot. Bill, the arguably least liked character, (my poor bb), has the joke that all the losers had a crush on him at one point.

I'm getting off track. Anyways I'm not saying that shipping everyone together in a poly sense would fix everything with these shipping wars but i do believe why there was never any shipping wars in the It fandom was because of Poly Losers. Also when I talk about poly in St I mean it like Poly Party and Poly teenage crew. Not together, I hate that I have to clarify that.

In the St fandom, it's just not as universally agreed that everyone loves each other, even in the basic platonic sense. All anyone seems to care about in the St fandom is romantic love. A lot of shippers want to be right, they want to prove that their ship will be cannon which just,,,sucks the fun right out fandom spaces.

Canon, fanon, why can't people just make cute fan art and talk in babbles about thoughts they have on a ship. Why do you have to be right about what's going to be the canon ship? Why do certain people feel the need to put down and even to the extent as far as bullying people who ship something different? I've never seen a fandom so focused on 'canon pairings' like the st fandom. (Side note I was never in the sherlock and supernatural fandoms, I knew to mention this)

The party, like the losers, are friends who have been through turmoil that have bound them together for a lifetime. I don't care what pairing you give me from st, whether it be a platonic or a romantic one, I will tell you that those characters deeply care for each other.

Side note: it's worth a mention that the Duffer brothers originally wanted to film the It remake and when they didn't get it, we got Stranger Things. It can be argued that the Party is based off the Losers club so you know what that means? THEY ALL LOVE EACH OTHER. Take it as platonic or romantic idc.

Again, I don't think that poly party is the answer to ending the shipping wars. I do think however that if people could remember how much the party members mean to each other, that that could make less tiring fandom spaces.

Okay I'm done. I just thought this was an interesting point on how it's been like in the It fandom vs the St fandom.

Wait I was doing tags and I forgot to mention that there are few people who ship Elumax and Stoncy, two throuples and kudos to them. They're just worth a mention, I didn't forget about ya'll

#this post isn't targeting anyone #if you read this and get offended idk what to tell you #my inbox is open for discussion if you disagree or have a different take #but I won't be responding to bullies #also the st fandom has made me appreciate the it fandom so much more #it 2017 #it 2019 #poly losers club #polylosers #poly losers headcanons #poly party #bill denbrough #stanley uris #eddie kaspbrack #richie tozier #mike hanlon #bev marsh #ben hanscom #reddie #steddie #stonathan #lumax #elmax #I'm not tagging b/ler or m/even bc last time sometold me to kms in my inbox and i dont want to deal with that

[whatisgoingoninmyhead]

there's something to be said about how public unawareness about aspec identities contributes to the infighting within the aspec communities.

for example, I've seen a lot of "don't say ace people don't have sex because that's harmful to the sex favourable aces" and the opposite: "don't say ace people can have sex because what about the sex repulsed/averse?"

and they're both valid points, but because of it, aspec posts have to cater to the entire spectrum or risk starting arguments over this. Ideally, people could look at an aspec post and accept that it's for a different part of the aro/ace spectrum to where they are, but that's where the public unawareness comes in

because outside of the aspec communities, there's so little understanding of what the terms mean, that people within the community have to make every post generic so that the unaware won't see one post and make an assumption for the entire community based on it.

I see where every side is coming from, but infighting doesn't really solve any of the issues. The only thing that can start to solve it is more expansive aspec media representation, and spreading the "aro/ace identities are a spectrum" posts as much as possible to reach outside of the community, rather than trying to make specific posts fit that generic message.

#long post and i fear it sounds a bit ranty at times #this isn't targeting anyone specific and if you've made those kinds of posts before. i do understand #it's just an observation I've made #aroace posts #aromantic #asexual #aroace #ace #aro #aspec #acespec #arospec #tw sex mention #aspec infighting #representation is important #but not every post can be perfect representation for every aspec person #I talk

[blondiest]

i tire of posts complaining about the quality of other people's writing. a) this discourages new writers from sharing their work. b) fanfiction is free. c) you're killing the vibe and the whimsy. d) go do it yourself if everyone sucks so bad. bitchass

#this isn't targeted at anyone i just feel like i see these sorts of posts so often in general recently #we are missing out on so many fun concepts and fics because we can't shut the fuck up about “good” writing #i want to post mid fic this year. bad fic even. perhaps you wish to say “morgan your fic is already mid/bad” but i am not listening #i want us to stop being fucking obsessed with quality all the damn time. sometimes being earnest is enough!!!!!!!! #don't get me wrong #i will continue to work very hard on my writing #but i want to indulge in doing Less some of the time too

[oceanwithouthermoon]

sometimes i think about how the people who hate on my takes on here would talk to each other and its always phrased like the twitter fandom drama i see but completely irrational and it makes me giggle

"calling kusuke abusive just because he shot his brother with a lethal weapon, plotted his murder, planned to use their grandparents to assist in hurting/killing him, and tried for years to expose his secret to the entire world against his will and through knowingly hurtful means in order to destroy everything he cared about is so stupid! what a stretch!"

"the saiki k fandom is so damn sensitive. i shoot my brother with massive guns all the time and its not abusive because he just blocks it!" HELPEKSJJSJSKSKKS

#sorry i have absolutely no beef with anyone this is just funny #its just an opinion and i have nothing against people with a different opinion than me #its just funny how they think IM irrational when this is legitimately their thought process #and they come directly onto MY page and cry about people having diff opinions #like girl u do NOT see me doing that shit thats so embarrassing stop #im not even a kusuke hater like thats my man #but even if i was- i dont get why that bothers people so much like y r u so scared of different opinions #i sometimes talk about teru or saiki haters i dont like but that isnt defined by 'literally anyone who doesnt like them' #idgaf if people hate my fav characters- i just hate the WAY certain people hate them that shows they didnt understand the show #YOUR definition of 'evil kusuke haters who must be purged from this fandom' is literally anyone who has an opinion on him- #-that isnt sunshine and rainbows and kusuke is the most morally right and sympathetic character and nobody else deserves him !1!1! ur crazy #oh this isn't targeted at any specific person btw im just being dramatic #i havent acknowledged this at all in months idk what compelled me to do so now #the single anon that barely even said anything just made me think back to this #nobody gets him like i do i swear i swear #saiki k #tdlosk #the disastrous life of saiki k. #saiki kusuke #meows post

[magnetic-dogz]

I think if you're a huge Sonic fan it's perfectly fine and valid to have critiques about the series and the way the writers handle it, because like. Y'know. It's healthy and shit to be able to critique your interests, even the ones you have the biggest attachment to. But if it's getting to a point where you're wishing the loss of a job, physical harm, or even death on people who have been creatively involved in the series because they "ruined it" then you need to dial it way wayyy back and also maybe get a hobby and perhaps seek therapy

#cookie.txt #this is on the same topic as that ian flynn post i rbed last night #and this is not just about him this is about anyone who's creatively worked on the sonic series #because i've seen people wish some evil shit on other writers or artists or hell even some of the VAs #and it's like. you DO know you can respectfully critique someone's work without villainizing them right???? #like. just to name a few other people i've seen get verbally torn apart by sonic fans #there's takashi iizuka. there's evan stanley. there's roger craig smith. there's jun senoue. and oh we can't forget jon gray #i've seen jon gray get so much shit it's insane. #also this isn't specifically targeted at anyone at all. i was just thinking about it #and like. i know i can get extreme about the series sometimes too but shit like this is NOT healthy #and i worry for people who participate in any kind of hatedom for ppl creatively involved in sonic

[notadsmpblog]

Listen this shit breaks my heart too and I'm 100% willing to drop Wilbur if it's actually him, but the way some of y'all are actively (and very VERY furiously) taking sides about something that is intentionally being kept vague is kind of weird.

I have been through Amino, Wattpad witchhunts, and so much more. But it's so fucking weird how some of you guys are like "There is no doubt it has to be him!" or "There is no doubt it can't be him!" Shelby is keeping this shit vague for a purpose and Wilbur literally hasn't been on his Twitter in months. You guys are on the same level as those weirdos back in 2016 who would speculate about private things between children, stop it.

It's especially weird how you guys are making DEFENSE AND EVIDENCE posts for him. Stop playing lawyer and Sherlock! Just tell people there's evidence pointing to Wilbur if asked why he's involved, link whatever is needed, and stop making your goddamn threads/posts/whatevers!! I know I'm overusing the word weird, but it's the only way I can describe this. You're not helping her by trying to piece together who it is when she probably FEARED THIS HAPPENING, especially if it IS him.

Stop defending Wilbur for your life. Stop fighting Wilbur through the screen for your life. This parasocial shit is getting out of hand, you don't know either of them. Support Shelby.

#Wilbur Soot #I seriously hate making and tagging original posts on this account but it has to be said #I'm a sutvivor of abuse (though not relationship wise) and people speculating had to have been one of my greatest fears #She was brave enough to come out about it and y'all are NOT HELPING!!!!! #// abuse #tw abuse #abuse #Adding on to accentuate a point I made in the post: #It's so disgusting how you guys are trying to act as though Wilbur is confirmed to be an abuser #And how you're such a moral standard for doing so #Cut that shit out!! Because if it is him you're stressing Shelby out and if it isn't you're STILL stressing her out #I'm not even saying this as a big Wilbur stan I'm saying this as a goddamn survivor of abuse #Also before anyone misinterprets: If you feel attacked by me saying 'you guys' you're probably the target audience!

[doglover-trait]

You know what sucks about simblr? That your posts have to be "pretty" for people to care about them. You have to have a good shader and/or use photoshop. You have edit your screenshots and make all your sims look super cute. You have to have lots of CC. And if you don't? No one likes your posts. No one follows you back. No one wants to interact with you.

Not everyone is like this but SO many people are and it really sucks. I get it; it's nice to look at pretty things. But some people don't have the skill or time or energy to put in that effort, and they deserve just as much attention.

This might not reach anyone since I am definitely not a simblr with "pretty" content, but I hope someone sees it. I post on tumblr because I like sharing my creations, but it's always nice to know people care about your content.

The legacy I'm currently re-reading has 104 notes on the post where the heir is born. I have 9. And even that is high compared to some people's posts.

This rant might be completely pointless, but I needed to get this off my chest. Because it really does feel sucky to see other people get loads of attention when your gameplay doesn't - and the only difference is how nice your picture is.

#i might delete this later #i'm just sad right now #and to the people who do like my posts #you are AMAZING and i adore you all #and i am not targeting or accusing anyone in particular #i just think a lot of people don't think about this and i wish they would #there are people i'd love to interact with but i am ashamed to because i feel like my stuff isn't good enough #and that is a really awful feeling

[1mnobodywhoareyou]

This might piss some people off but that's fine. It needs to be said. Again, apparently.

I've been thinking about all the posts against self deprecation I've seen lately and just... Why are you demanding someone change how they use a coping mechanism for YOUR comfort?

If you don't like how someone talks about themselves, you don't have to be their friend.

Nobody is forcing you to be around them.

Are there arguments to be made that it's bad for them and you just care? Sure. But it's also more complicated than that. You being uncomfortable with it doesn't mean it's hurting you. And you don't get to be the authority on what hurts them.

To stay on the 'hole' analogy I saw most recently: you come across someone stuck in a hole. Whether they put themselves there, they were pushed, or they fell isn't really the question. It's what are you going to do about it?

You can walk away. Leave them in the hole.

You can stand at the top of the hole yelling that they should find a ladder and throwing rocks at them.

You can look for a ladder and offer it down to them. Whether they choose to climb it is up to them. You can choose to leave them or climb down and sit with them and encourage them up.

You can jump in, sit with them, help build up a way to get out of the hole.

I know y'all thinking that you're offering a ladder when you criticize the person in the hole doing what they need to do to survive the hole but you're actually just standing on the edge throwing shit at them. Offering a ladder means actually providing a resource that works for their situation. Maybe you're offering a rope when they can't actually use a rope.

Maybe consider just walking away or actually sitting with them instead?

People use self deprecation for all sorts of reasons. And it's not inherently bad. AND people are allowed to be negative or cynical or pessimistic and not be required to change for your comfort. Not everyone's brain is happy go go all of the time (or ever) and if you don't like it, leave them alone. (And spoiler alert: telling someone who IS any of these things to just "be positive" or "love yourself" actually IS hurting them. Now they get to hate themselves and feel like they're wrong for it. AND work really fucking hard to fulfill these arbitrary expectations just for things to not actually get better but now they also don't have a true concept of self but most of y'all don't care about that. Just speaking from experience.)

And if you just want to criticize people, fine. You do you. But stop trying to wrap it all up in a pretty veneer of "just wanting to help." You're not helping.

(and before anyone decides to discount this all as teenaged angst and whining because that's also a fun game I'm not interested in unpacking right now, I'm in my 30s and trying to rediscover who I am after decades of being told I'm too much for everyone else)

#this is not a targeted call out post #it is a general statement on how horrible this practice is for the people who are actually impacted by it #because I KEEP SEEING IT #though if you feel called out about it then i guess that's for you to work through #the saviourist superiority complex isn't actually helping anyone #mental health #depression #self deprecation #coping mechanisms #healing #trauma

[ozlices]

ik it's difficult for ppl to navigate when it happens but after system discussions, we're realizing being asked how we're doing is getting triggering again. it just reminds us that the only Genuine answer we can give is being a broken record abt all the shit on our shoulders & spiraling further as a result, so. check-ins are always appreciated (though not expected/required), but pls approach them as like "i hope ur doing okay" or something instead of asking us how we're doing. it's draining to answer

#mine #posting this now bc it's been a bit since anyone has asked & i didn't wanna risk it feeling targeted bc it's Not whatsoever #it's purely a personal depression thing we go through every so often & it's just in that phase rn. #equally being asked abt like. progress on getting out of our current situation is draining as well. #but more so in a 'we would be providing those updates if we had them' u know. #like being asked just reminds us we're still stuck & causes worse spirals #& AGAIN this isn't like. a vague or a scold whatsoever #nobody's doing this maliciously & we don't hold it against anybody #it's just a boundary we have to set. #ty for being understanding.

[feezee223]

Why do people keep saying my oc visionchaser looks like peacemaker there literally diffrent desighns not every night/rainwing is peacemaker I am going to go insane

Peacemaker visionchaser

Credits to whoever made peacemakers wiki ref

#Feezee finaly snaps #This isn't targeted at anyone by the way I'm just tired of not being able to post art of her without people saying she's peacemaker

[random-human-being2311]

I love encountering the "I only like their '70s songs" queen fans because they're such a funny flavour of extremely pretentious

the way they talk about it you'd think their entire family was personally murdered by a synthesiser and/or a drum machine

#queen band #queen #this doesn't apply very much to the tumblr end of the Queen fandom but eh who cares #my queen-related posts already have a target audience of one (1) person (myself) already #but seriously what do you guys have against synthesisers?? #“it sounds too dated and 1980s” guess what my dude believe it or not people actually still use synthesisers in modern music #!! - RANT INCOMING - !! #HOLD ON I JUST REALISED #ISN'T THE GUITAR BEEPING NOISE ON FATHER TO SON (ONE OF THE TRACKS FROM QUEEN II OF ALL ALBUMS) INFAMOUS EASY TO MISTAKE FOR SYNTHESISER #AND THE OUTRO OF TEO TORIATTE #AND LIKE QUEEN MADE SURE TO INCLUDE “NOBODY PLAYED SYNTHESISER” OR WHATEVER THE WORDING WAS ON THEIR 1970S ALBUMS #**BECAUSE** EVERYONE KEPT MISTAKENLY THINKING THEY HAD SYNTHESISER IN THEM??? #DUE TO THE LAYERED VOCAL SOUND AND THE OCCASIONAL WEIRD USE OF A GUITAR THAT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE A SYNTH #oh also on drum machines: barely any queen songs use them what's the big problem #like only a handful from one (1) album #and on those songs it really works #idk why but the drum machine just works really well in Back Chat and it's a bop #Back Chat my beloved <3 #yeah anyway these guys don't make sense to me #and the good thing about posting this on tumblr is that the chance of one of them actually seeing this is so low it's basically zero #because I'm not in the mood to get into a heated argument about that right now #I will gladly rant but I want to rant into the void not actually at anyone #that one's ramblings

[wataeicentric]

I'm glad people are finally seeing what an incredible character Eichi is, with all his contradictions in the way he acts, and his severe push/pull tide of emotions (ex. EP:Link, Element, Sanctuary) it's what makes his character so beautifully human.

#ensemble stars #eichi tenshouin #tenshouin eichi #Also in the post I'm referencing they mention the common misconception that #eichi started the war because he was in love with wataru #which isn't true #exactly the opposite #he started the war because he loves idols #and wanted to create a better environment for new idols #as idols were the ones who kept him happy when he was in hospital #the war was something he did out of his love for idols #not his love for wataru #that was why he targetted Wataru as one of the five eccentrics #he realised it would mean Wataru would never feel the same as he'd hurt both him and his friends #but wataru (another very beautiful and complex character) realised Eichi's intentions far quicker than anyone else did #and thats why now they're side by side #Eichi never started the war for Wataru's attention #he actually assumed it would make him resent him #a lot #and expresses to this day #even after EP:Link #that he feels he is undeserving of wataru's love #because he is wracked by guilt over his own overly severe actions during the war #because he hurt so many people #it's not just wataru though #he feels undeserving of *any* love #me after making a post and then writing an eichi monologue in the tags

[floralovebot]

I talk a lot about how different fanon!Helia is from canon!Helia but not enough but how bad it is for all the characters.

Like you have Riven going from this insecure teenage boy who lashes out at anyone who challenges him to this suave bad boy who could kill the winx. People seeing Stella as a stuck up brat, thinking that she loves Bloom more than the other winx, or that she would ever choose to be selfish in ways that hurt the other characters. Or Flora going from this fairly confident young girl who loves to meet new people and hangout with others to an introverted shy mess who never speaks up and would never say something sarcastic. Not to sound like a bitch but I really do think it's time the fandom stops pretending we're better than other fandoms and don't have Fanon Versions because we do and it's messing with y'alls perception of canon so fucking bad

#theres a time and place for fanon and its not pretending that fanon IS canon #and like listen #there's a big difference between having headcanons and fanonizing a character so badly that theyre basically a different character #im not saying its Bad to have headcanons or to disagree with canon #everyone does that its normal and healthy for fandoms #that sounded SO online good god #but also recognizing that your headcanons are Just headcanons is also necessary? #and recognizing that sometimes headcanons have been disproven by canon or aren't backed up at all #and not acting like your fanon version Is canon or is better than canon? #like genuinely think some of you dont even like canon winx and you just like the fanon versions of them in your head #like no sorry but flora isnt the fumbling shy mess who can't even speak to the others #stella isnt the dumb selfish princess who can't fight and wouldn't protect her friends #aisha isn't the Super Independent Woman who hates all men (also a very racist trope) #musa isnt that I Hate Everyone bitch who would dropkick the winx and physically abuse riven #i could go on and on like im sorry but the fanon versions of them are So Bad rn its so weird to me #like... fanon has always existed but i dont think its ever been this bad? usually Extreme Fanon only happened when someone hated a characte #like people usually only mischaracterize them when they Hate them but now im seeing people who Love them do it #i dont understand what happened why has fanon gotten so bad recently?? #also Im Sorry if any of this sounds targeted or extra bitchy i promise im not talking about anyone specific and im not Trying to be mean #i just really hate going into a character tag and seeing post after post of people going 'riven would kill sky if he got the chance' #and i dont mean the clearly joke posts i mean the Very Genuine Headcanon posts like what the FUCK are you people talking about #i genuinely think some of you got your degrees from the fanon university instead of the canon uni #please rewatch the entire first three seasons at your earliest convenience or your degree will be revoked #ajhdglagd #like not to sound mean but i think there was an influx of people who only vaguely remembered the show and got the rest of their info #from random tumblr posts instead of yknow. the actual show #oh i am very complainy today time to do something more productive and less chronically online

[ahordeofwasps]

Hey you know how some people just aren't interested in baseball? The same thing applies to shipping. It's not cool to call them to "boring prudes." It's not cool to declare those who are just not interested in romance as "cold and heartless." It's not cool to refer to those who aren't interested in smut as "missing something."

It's valid to enjoy shipping. Just remember, that it's also valid to not enjoy shipping. The human experience is incredibly varied.

Don't insult people just because their experiences and interests are not the same as yours.

#this isn't targeted towards anyone in particular #it's just in the past few days I've seen MULTIPLE posts on my dash whose gist is if you're not shipping you're living wrong #and it's getting grating #I also do not appreciate having my existence being equated to that of an AI

[boyfhee]

i can't believe y'all r sending hate to my friend bc of what I said ab wonyo :/

#peak stupidity i must say #this really reflecte upon your maturity yeah it really does #it's so funny bc if someone was ab to post an article ab the same y'all would switch sides so quickly #but god this isn't even ab her anymore this is ab you ppl being so shameful and unapologetic #and the way u guys will target anyone not on some reasonable basis but on their own opinion #as if me or my friend owe you an explanation or apology or having views that aren't the same as yours #moreover we said things that are valid publicly while you people are sending hate and that too on anon so who's winning here #bc u think ppl will come for you if they saw u sending hate so you hide behind that anon button #you ppl are not only literal pieces of shits but cowards as well

[tokyorry]

the status quo of everything being so us centered is so tiring sometimes. like don't get me wrong we DO care if you're being discriminated against in your country. but also know that there's struggles (and joys) everywhere that you have no idea about and not everything is about us politics

#it's not a struggle olympics just that #why do i know everything abt target pride merch controversy #but go ahead and name one influential queer person from my country #or from #anywhere that isn't us #idk what's my point it's just such a status quo that nobody's even questioning it atp #this is not @ anyone just observing online spaces as one chronically online does #also i'm sick of knowing a disproportioned amount abt us politcs and not enough abt other matters in the world #and that's on me #bea posts