#thistlestar

[burning-thistles-bt]

Hi! First of all, love the AU and fic, I've been keeping up with it for about a year now and I love seeing new updates on it! Secondly, I was wondering two things... #1. Is Adderfang still Thistlestar's mentor in this AU? I don't believe we ever saw much of their Mentor-Apprentice relation in the fic if it existed, (likely because Adderfang hates Thistlestar so much xD) what was that like? Do you think Adderfang's reaction being so extreme was not only because he loves his daughter, but also because he felt betrayed at his former apprentice's actions? and #2. In Leopardstar's honor, a timeline is given for Mosspelt's pregnancy and relationship with Frogleap, and through another wonderful oversight by the Erins, Mosspelt apparently was pregnant while she was still an apprentice, from Frogleap, a cat who was ~4 years old. She gave birth around the same age as Spottedleaf had the Firesibs! I know that the BT timeline is a bit altered from canon, and that the fic pre-dates some later retcons from the series, like Volewhisper surviving. Is Frogleap having a predatory relationship with Mosspaw/pelt a thing that happened in BT? If so, what was that like for Mosspelt? Did she ever get any support in her hardships? did Dawnflower join the rebels out of a disdain for Thistlestar, knowing he has done terrible things like her father did as well? Anyways, that's about all. Sorry for such a long message! Thanks for putting so much time into your work and making such a great fic, and for taking the time to read my questions!!

yes Adderfang is still Thistlestar's mentor! i don't believe if it was ever mentioned in the fic or any one-shots, but he is lol. Adderfang's reaction was so extreme because Spottedpaw was his Precious Baby Girl and he very abruptly realized during the reveal how awful it was that someone in a position of power was getting with an apprentice (he would not have been so aggressive if this was a situation with a different apprentice and warrior---for example, Whitepaw and Goldenflower, or something. he cared and got protectively angry so much because it was his own daughter affected). the fact that Thistlestar was his own apprentice honestly didn't even cross his mind until it was over, and then it was just a very angry thought process of "i never taught him to be like that! (did i teach him to be like that?)" (yes, he taught him to be like that---not a predator, but he taught, unintentionally, Thistlestar to be more aggressive. remember, Adderfang was a part of Thistleclaw's groups that attacked kittypets for no reason.)

in BT canon, Mosspelt and Frogleap's relationship isn't touched upon much because I didn't realize how young Mosspelt was and also I'm not sure how much their age gap changes with the condensed timeline in BT lol. But! But! There are always hidden inappropriate relationships in the background (like, WillowTawny, although that's not really in the bg, but compared to SpottedThistle, GrassThistle, and DawnFinch, its not as prominent. also ShadeThistle is a bg bad-relationship. and i believe Cloudrunner x Morningflower would be one too, and there's definitely more. and future ones, like Snowbird x Scorchfur), so I do think Frog and Moss could be as it is in accidentally implied canon, where Frog groomed Moss. after all, most of RiverClan was pretty accepting of Thistle getting with Grass, weren't they? well, in general, it is---or was---unfortunately an acceptable part of clan culture. I do think that there is a multitude here; I think Frogleap is not as manipulative as Thistlestar, and cared more genuinely about Mosspelt and her emotions. While that does not make what he did okay AT ALL, I think Mosspelt did not experience as much negative emotions about the situation, and she doesn't perceive herself as being preyed upon. There are real life relationships like this, and they're definitely not ideal, and there's issues, but sometimes it just works out like that. i think there might have been issues down the line though, if Frogleap had survived, and Mosspelt had grown more as a person and developed differences in her personality than to how she was as an apprentice/young warrior. I'm getting "they died a happy couple, but if he had lived, she would have grown up and become more independent and he'd get upset at the changes, and then she'd divorce him" vibes

Dawnflower was one of Thistlestar's victims! it's mentioned a few times in passing that Thistlestar would 'go on patrol' with Dawnpaw, or look at Dawnpaw. actually, most young she-cats in RiverClan (Silverstream, Grasswhisker, Vixenleap, Shadepelt, Dawnflower, Primroseleaf, Feathertail, etc.) experienced some level of "creepiness" with Thistlestar. Dawnpaw/flower was one of the ones that Thistlestar would definitely say a bunch of weird shit to and touch her, but they never did anything past that. still, Dawnflower was scared shitless by him and terrified he'd do something she didn't want to him. she also just hated how aggressive/annoying Thistle and Lightning's rule was, so she left the instant she had an out (LeopardClan), though she was also really scared to leave her family/home behind, and worried for her siblings/friends. Dawnflower also definitely thinks of Frogleap (her dad) as a good warrior, and has no idea his and Mosspelt's relationship would have been similar to what she was experiencing (though, again, Mosspelt viewed Frogleap's attention as a much more positive thing, sort of like how Spottedleaf did with Thistlestar at the beginning. Meanwhile, Dawnflower was just always scared of his attention)

it's interesting, definitely, that Mosspelt stood against Thistlestar and what he'd done, yet never saw that she was victim to something similar too... though, to be fair, she joined LeopardClan because she supported Leopardfur as a close friend (through Frogleap) and knew Leopardfur was being unjustly accused, not necessarily out of a hatred of Thistlestar himself. much to think about...

#the complexity of relationships get me #i want to keep rambling about every single riverclan cat now #we love the long messages!!! questions get us thinking and its fun! #lolling response #anon ask #asked and answered #burning thistles #burning thistles au #mosspelt #frogleap #dawnflower #thistlestar #thistleclaw #leopardclan #adderfang

[residents-of-the-darkforest]

Dark Forest Residences: Crowpaw & Weaselpaw

Crowpaw

Aliases / Nicknames: Slimy Crow, Spoiled Brat, Lazy Brat 

Gender: tom 

Sexuality: heterosexual 

Family: Finchblaze (mother), Stormpuddle (father), Petalpaw (sister), Weaselpaw (brother), 

Other Relations: Darkfrost (first mentor), Webstripe (second mentor), Hailstrike (third mentor) 

Clan: BushClan 

Rank: apprentice 

Characteristics: snarky, lazy, misogynistic, looks up to his brother and Webstripe

Murder Motive: kills those who talked bad about Webstripe, kills to impress Webstripe 

Number of Victims: 8 

Number of Murders: 8 

Murder Method: forcing others to choke on moss, biting necks 

Known Victims: Bearpaw, Maplepaw, Hawkpaw, Cloudmane, Juniperleap, Smokefleck, Adderlight, Hailstrike 

Victim Profile: apprentices and elders who talked badly about Webstripe, his third mentor 

Cause of Death: impaled through the eye/skull with a branch, killed by Petalpaw 

Cautionary Tale: Even temporary mentors must be chosen wisely--just a little bad influence may irreversibly change an apprentice's life 

Story: 

Webstripe was the best mentor Weaselpaw and Crowpaw could have ever asked for!

They had never been too fond of their original mentors, Firefeather and Darkfrost. Firefeather was a loud and stupid oaf of a cat, and Darkfrost was nothing more than a spineless coward. And they were both weak, preferring to obsess over their mates and their new kits! 

Why did queens deserve so much respect anyways? They were useless! All they did was sit around and pop out kits! Why couldn't they have gotten mentors who actually cared about the Clan? 

StarClan must have been listening to their prayers, because soon their wish was granted. Crowpaw was freed first. 

Darkfrost's stupid spawn had all been killed by a hawk, and the weakling was so caught up in grief that he was killed in a battle with OceanClan a mere week later. Crowpaw was giddy as is, but then Fennelstar did something right for once in her life and made Webstripe Crowpaw's new mentor. 

Weaselpaw and Crowpaw had both wanted Webstripe for their mentor initially--he was independent, dedicated to the Clan, and put she-cats in their place. Crowpaw's dream had finally come true! He was so happy, he didn't even care that Darkfrost's idiotic mate Redflower died in her sleep of a broken heart the next day. They could be happily useless and idiotic in StarClan together, for all Crowpaw cared. 

And Weaselpaw didn't have to wait long either, for just a mere moon later, history repeated itself. Firefeather's useless spawn were all killed by a fox, and Firefeather succumbed to grief so bad he was killed in a battle against OceanClan not long after! Weaselpaw was worried about getting another lame mentor, but then brave, noble Webstripe offered to mentor him as well. The brothers were very close, after all, and with the war killing so many cats, they were short on mentors anyways. Webstripe was more than happy to ease the burden of picking a new mentor for Fennelstar. 

The brothers were overjoyed to have the same mentor, one they had looked up to since kithood. 

They were so happy, they didn't even care that Firefeather's mate Briarclaw died in her sleep of a broken heart the very next day, like her sister Redflower before her. 

They were all useless anyways. 

Webstripe was the perfect mentor. He was everything Weaselpaw and Crowpaw could have asked for. He made them feel respected and powerful, and validated all of their thoughts on their old mentors. 

Real toms didn't have time for she-cats. Only those who focused on themselves were worthy of being true Clan cats. 

Those four moons were the best moons of Weaselpaw and Crowpaw's life. Nothing could ruin this for them! 

They were proven wrong in the worst way possible one fateful noon-high in Greenleaf, when a soaking wet Sunnyheart strolled into camp, grasping the limp, bloody body of a silvery-white tabby in her jaws. 

Webstripe was dead. 

Weaselpaw and Crowpaw thought it couldn't get any worse, but then Sunnyheart called a Clan meeting and revealed to the Clan how Webstripe was the one to kill Darkfrost, Redflower, Firefeather, Briarclaw, their kits, and Sunnyheart's own kits--Webstripe's nieces and nephew. She spoke of how jealous Webstripe was of the toms, how much he lusted over the she-cats, how he was so in love with Sunnyheart in particular, so jealous of his own brother, Thistletail, that he killed their kits and almost killed Thistletail too. 

Overnight, Webstripe turned from one of the most beloved cats in BushClan, a contender for deputy, into a reviled and hated tom, the butt of every joke. It made Weaselpaw and Crowpaw seethe with anger. It wasn't fair! Why couldn't they see that Webstripe was trying to do the Clan a favor by getting rid of soft hearted-toms and useless queens? 

And to rub salt in the wound, Fennelstar made Berrymoon and Hailstrike Weaselpaw and Crowpaw's new mentors. Two she-cats. Did Fennelstar think they were jokes? What was she thinking, making two she-cats their new mentors?

It had to be part of some kind of agenda, to humiliate them for daring to still care about Webstripe! 

Weaselpaw and Crowpaw had been mulling over these thoughts when their younger denmates, Bearpaw, Hawkpaw, and Maplepaw, came strolling in like they owned the world. They were laughing and talking about how much of a loser Webstripe was, how they always thought he was a weird loner of a tom. 

Weaselpaw and Crowpaw snapped. 

Nobody appreciated Webstripe anymore. 

They would make them all pay for not appreciating him anymore. 

They would show Webstripe that there was someone out there who still appreciated him. 

They were surprised they weren't caught, what with how loudly they ripped up the moss and how loudly those weaklings screamed. But not even seeing the siblings' father wail over their cold bodies was enough to satisfy Weaselpaw and Crowpaw. It only made them angrier. There were weaklings still to be removed. And the message hand't gotten through yet. 

Berrymoon and Hailstrike had forced Weaselpaw and Crowpaw to go give moss to the elders. They stood their ground, not wanting to be bossed around by she-cats, but relented when they threatened to tell their parents. So they stomped into the den, planning to just drop the moss down and call it a day. The elders could do it themselves, after all. They shouldn't be so lazy just because they were old. 

Instead, they stumbled into a conversation between Cloudmane, Juniperleap, Smokefleck, and Adderlight. A conversation about Webstripe. 

Smokefleck and Adderlight were calling Webstripe so many awful names, and Cloudmane and Juniperleap were trying to tell them that Webstripe was already getting what he deserved in the Dark Forest. How dare they say that?! Webstripe should be celebrated in StarClan for his deeds! It was them who weren't getting what they deserved! 

Thankfully, with how fragile they were, it was much easier to shove the moss down their throats. But the message still wasn't getting through. Their efforts weren't being appreciated at all, least of all by Berrymoon and Hailstrike. 

They had the gall to take Weaselpaw and Crowpaw out for solo training and reveal that they knew what they had done, and that they were done putting up with this behavior. 

As soon as they finished talking, Berrymoon and Hailstrike were going to tell Fennelstar everything, and Weaselpaw and Crowpaw would never become warriors. In the heat of the moment, Weaselpaw and Crowpaw had to improvise. 

But they still pulled it off. 

They waited until Berrymoon and Hailstrike had turned their backs to return to camp before leaping at them and sinking their teeth into their necks. It was a move Webstripe had taught them. They hoped they were making him proud. 

Unfortunately, Weaselpaw and Crowpaw had forgotten to account for one thing. 

Their stupid spoiled brat of a sister, Petalpaw, was taking her warrior exam at the same time as their little "talk" with their "mentors,” and the smell of fresh blood brought her into the clearing just in time for her to catch Weaselpaw and Crowpaw red-pawed. 

They thought they could take her down easily, her being a weak little she-cat and all. 

Oh, how wrong they were. 

Weaselpaw

Aliases / Nicknames: Slimy Weasel, Spoiled Brat, Dumb Brat 

Gender: tom 

Sexuality: heterosexual 

Family: Finchblaze (mother), Stormpuddle (father), Petalpaw (sister), Crowpaw (brother) 

Other Relations: Firefeather (first mentor), Webstripe (second mentor), Berrymoon (third mentor) 

Clan: BushClan 

Rank: apprentice 

Characteristics: dumb, arrogant, misogynistic, close with his brother, looks up to Webstripe

Murder Motive: kills those who talked bad about Webstripe, kills to impress Webstripe 

Number of Victims: 8 

Number of Murders: 8 

Murder Method: forcing others to choke on moss, biting necks 

Known Victims: Bearpaw, Maplepaw, Hawkpaw, Cloudmane, Juniperleap, Smokefleck, Adderlight, Berrymoon 

Victim Profile: apprentices and elders who talked bad about Webstripe, his third mentor 

Cause of Death: impaled through the skull with a large rock, killed by Petalpaw 

Cautionary Tale: Even temporary mentors should be chosen wisely--just a little bad influence may irreversibly change an apprentice's life.

Story:

See Crowpaw.

Additional Information: 

--Submission by @starfalcon555​

 --From Star: “I had to mess with the timeline of Wesbtripe's story a little to make this work, so now Webstripe's first two litter-victims were born at the same time and killed one moon apart! I also retconed Redflower and Briarclaw to be sisters to make it work - they were the kind of sisters that had to do everything together, including having kits lol.” 

--Bearpaw, Hawkpaw, and Maplepaw were all names they originally considered for Weaselpaw, Crowpaw, and Petalpaw, hence them being littermates too. Their father is Sunnyheart's brother, hence why they were so keen to talk shit about Webstripe. 

Smokefleck was Darkfrost's father, and Adderlight was Firefeather's mother, hence why they were so keen to talk shit about Webstripe. 

Cloudmane and Juniperleap were mates, and they were the parents of Berrymoon and Hailstrike, hence why Berry and Hail were able to figure out so quickly that Weaselpaw and Crowpaw were behind their murders. 

--Weaselpaw and Crowpaw were seventeen moons old when they died, their warrior ceremonies being delayed to the constant changes in mentorship as well as them being brats who didn't put in work. 

Petalpaw's mentor was Thistletail, and her own warrior ceremony was delayed due to Thistletail's coma causing her to fall behind in training. She wasn't close to Weaselpaw and Crowpaw at all - they bullied her a lot as kits - but she still cared for them and always hoped they would change somehow. She only killed Weaselpaw and Crowpaw out of self-defense (she was trying to use the rock and the branch to shield herself) and she regretted killing them until the day she died. 

--Petalpaw’s warrior name isn’t known yet, but she becomes Thistlestar's second deputy after Sunnyheart's passing!

--BITCHES BITCHES BITCHES. You knew once you saw ‘misogynistic’ that they were gonna be SHITFACES.

And you KNOW they’re gonna get their asses handed to them in the DF. That attitude will not fly.

#crowpaw and weaselpaw #dfoc #wcoc #wc #warriors #webstripe #thistlestar #thistletail #petalpaw #fanclan #oceanclan #bushclan #dark forest oc #dark forest warrior #dark forest apprentice #dark forest #place of no stars #warriorcats #warriorsoc #warrirocatsoc

[somerandomicthings]

Mangroveclan warns Oakclan about something...

Game made by @frogcroak

The clan i'm playing with is Oakclan, so Thistlestar reaction is kinda similar to mine, but less extreme.

Brown-grey she-cat with white toes - Hazelstar Cream shaded tom with ice eyes - Sandyshade White tom with tabby stripe spots - Thistlestar Colourpoint she-cat with ice eyes - Iceeyes(I know, i'm so creative)

Hazel and Sandy are siblings from differents litters.

#solo cat game #oakclan #mangroveclan #warrior cats #hazelstar #thistlestar #sandyshade #iceeyes #art #digital art #mini comic

[leafpool-loves-ashfur]

@firealder2005​ started making memes for Burning Thistles... so I dipped my hand at them too!

(i have a third one but it’s spoilery... so take these charts instead!)

#the charts are just the perfect size as to not be like sidebysideable #burning thistles #burning thistles au #burning thistles meme #burning thistles memes #memes #bt memes #burning spotted thistles #warrior cats au #warriors au #waca au #warrior cats #warriors #fireheart #firestar #thistleclaw #thistlestar

[knocknut]

you know i had to do it eventually

#what lurks beneath #wlb trout #the walten file #the walten family #sha the sheep #bon the dancing rabbit #jenny letterson #toh #the collector #undertale #toriel #warrior cats #ocs #thistlestar #kaleb meere #astarjack ferrester #WOGUH i think thats everything #single file so it doesnt end up in the tag

[firealder2005]

THE OG BT MEME

THE VERY FIRST EVER MADE

THE ONE THAT STARTED LOLLING AND MY FIXATION

#alderposts #aldermemes #warrior cats #warrior cats aus #burning thistles #burning thistles memes #bluestar #tigerstar #whitestorm #thistleclaw #thistlestar #feathercloud #featherkit #firestar #thunderclan #riverclan

[darkheart-splashfoot]

Thistlestar finally designed

#artists on tumblr #artwork #cat art #digital art #erin hunter warriors #art #splashfoot’s difference #warrior cats #warriors #warrior cats oc #warriors oc #Thistlestar #leader #Thunderclan leader

[dodos-and-kiwis]

[Click for better quality]

Time to use my usual art block killer: drawing Warriors OCs! Meet Thistlestar, the antagonistic leader of HollowClan :)

#my art #warrior cats #ocs #warriors ocs #Thistlestar

[dreamingblacktabby]

Featherwhisker's Sacrifice

!!!!!! Warning for Death and Drowning !!!!!!!!

#warrior cats au #Thistlestar's Reign #Featherwhisker #Tigerclaw #Firestar #Graystripe #Cinderpelt #tw drowning #I'll see if I can make a sketch comic of the aftermath next week #motivations been waning a bit but we'll see #Kat's art

[theanoninyourinbox]

I was told the out this here, Like I should have done from the get go, OH WELL TIS HERE NOW

You mentioned Tinykit and siblings, we’re dropped off by another cat, what’s their story I wish to know please

Get pranked it be Scourge baby! And Orange Ruby and Girl Socks! Story time!

So Sweetmoon was helping Spottedpaw gather herbs (girl talk time) when they saw a gray molly literally drOP A BABY HELLO!?!???? The pair start to rush over and see three! Three crying babies! The gray kittypet glares at her litter - imperfect, she scoffs, not worth the effort. She turns and Sweetmoon immediately slaps the everloving Dirt out of the idiot queen, and Spottedpaw starts to check the babies. The kittypet flees with heavily torn ears and bleeding flanks, and Sweetmoon carefully cleans her claws so she can snuggle the poor babies. The three are underweight and cold, and the Thunderclan mollies carry them home. After a thorough exam and a juicy squirrel (just old enough to be weaned), the little tom tearily asks why momma didn’t love them, and Sweetmoon, curling her tail around him, says that cat wasn’t your Mama - Mamas don’t hurt their babies! They keep them warm, keep them safe, and clean! The orange molly pipes up - does that mean YOU’RE our Mama? The three look up at her with big blue eyes. Of course! She chirps back, I always wanted three perfect little babies just like you! They immediately curl up into her bellyfur, as Spottedpaw and Featherwhisker watch approvingly.

Thistlestar and Snowfur pause outside the den, eyes wide. Well, Snowfur slowly mews, we always wanted grandkits - honey are you crying? Thistle baby do you need a minute? Thistlestar, tears running down his face, no, why do you ask?

Tinykit, Quailkit, and Rosekit are welcomed with open arms, and recover nicely. Tinypaw is mentored by Thrushpelt, Rosepaw by Adderfang, and Quailpaw by Robinwing. Tinyclaw is known as a calm cat, and starts the mediator role much earlier; a Shadowclan cat named Brokentail becomes his close friend, leading to a peaceful future. Rosecurl finds a pair of near-dead kits near the Shadowclan border and raises them - their mother Yellowfang watches in bittersweet relief as they grow. Quailflight befriends a few loners and kittypets - not their Not-Mama - and brings an older-than-canon Rusty and an already pregnant Princess back to camp.

#my art #warrior cats #warrior cats au #warrior cats designs #warriors #Scourge #tiny #scourge/tiny #Socks #ruby #connected to a previous art #Babies! #kittens! #good ending au #Good Guy Thistlestar AU

[burning-thistles-bt]

SO I was gonna suggest that Thistlestar dies in the battle bc I remembered seeing him dead in your Bad Guy pmv but when I looked back at it I noticed there was no blood BUT he had foam on his mouth Then I remembered your Youth pmv and Fire holding the deathberries so I'm calling it now Either Firestar poisons Thistle OR he gets Lightning to do it After all, we did see that she is starting to turn away from her father now that Featherpaw is an apprentice Feel free to censor everything if you post

another correct theory for the masses!

#lolling response #bt spoilers #bt war era #thistlestar #firestar #lightningfur #burning thistles #burning thistles au #asked and answered #anon ask #bt theory

[clangen-stories]

OMG ok dirtclan story. I had a leader named Wildstar and a deputy named Thistlefluff and they HATED each other. I was shocked wildstar hadn’t been murdered already levels of hate. But wildstar dies normally and I get thistlestar which is cool. 2 moons into thistlestar’s reign HER deputy, MINTFROST, KILLS HER and becomes mintstar. shortest warrior cat leadership I’ve had ever

THE DRAMA IS REAL. keeping up with the catdashians who.

#mintfrost was not rocking with thistlestar #the vibes were off. she said. and then she killed her #vibe checked literally #anonymous clangen confession box

[goobiestar]

Hey guys imagine i drew all the leaders that will be appearing in my au in the order of

Sunstar,

Thistlestar and

Bluestar

okay thanks

#too lazy and depressed to draw it rn #i tried but my art style is actually dog shit #feeling pretty suicidal rn so you know what time that os #also cuz i hate thistleclaw but thistlestar is a rad idea #goobie bites #goosefeather’s redemption #warrior cats #warrior cats au #au

[offkeyed-reason]

i am so full of kitty colony ideas it makes my brain go BRRRRR

#papi.txt #i still need to flesh out my thistlestar au

[bonefall]

but what makes characters like fallenleaf and bb!brokenstar redeemable?

Choice. They were stripped of their power, put through extreme circumstances, and then made the choice to leave their violent histories behind them.

And you will note that it's VERY rare that I show these types of characters being redeemed. There's two 'redemptions' in a very long history of tyrants. Tigerstar, Dalestar, Skystar, Ashfur, Darktail, One Eye, Leopardstar, Mudclaw, Thistlestar technically if he had become leader. 2 out of 10 is a very small ratio.

(and fallenleaf isn't really 'redeemed' in my mind, so much as she simply stopped being a tyrant. There is no way for her to ever make up for what she did and that is a part of her character.)

And of them, Skystar is the worst individual. By far. He has no reason to want to change, nor would he ever. He loves power too much. He would look for it anywhere he went, because he hates listening to anyone tell him what to do. Having this is important to him than anything.

BB!Brokenstar is so different he's not a great comparison to Skystar, imo. He's a protector spirit, the embodiment of SkyClan's fallen 5th oak tree, and basically the logical conclusion of the "might makes right" mindset that defines Clan Culture in his era. So his redemption in finding his place as SkyClan's guardian is basically about "righting a cosmic wrong," and putting the magic to rest in its rightful place.

Brokey's a mortal when he takes the shape of one, but the story I'm trying to tell with him is that fury, righteous love, and protectiveness have their place. He comes to understand that as he watches SkyClan form, and realize that no matter how different they are from the toxic culture he was born into and molded by, he loves them, and he needs them to become what they want to be.

THIS is what that fury is for. To kill the rats and defend the besieged Clan, so they can live freely while he slumbers.

Fallenleaf's a better comparison. Both she and Skystar wanted to forcefully remake society in their own images, and would brutalize anyone who didn't live up to their strict standards.

(contrast to BB!Brokenstar who strategically took out only two cats. Raggedstar and Marigoldkit. He actually limited violence against his own Clan.)

But Fallenleaf and Skystar are very different people. Fallenleaf did what she did out of strict, obsessive dedication to the Code. She was fueled by what she'd been taught by Bramblestar, allowing Ashfur to physically abuse Lionpaw "for his own good." That you have to hurt what you love to protect it.

Still; I very much made it intentional that her punishment is SO harsh. The Lake cats HATED her. She ruined everything and she knows it. Sol gets bored of her, steals her body, and leaves her stranded 100 years in the past. She's forced to stay in those tunnels and cling to the mortal plane, just thinking about her family to keep her tethered, as civilizations rise and fall outside.

Now back in her home, she's almost unrecognizable. She's traveled so far and lost so much, and been forced to sit with her shame for a very long time. Not even StarClan is old enough to remember her crimes; and it's she alone who carries that burden. It's a weight she chooses to carry, to remind her of the worst version of herself. Something she could become again, if she isn't careful.

BB!Skystar's a venerated founder.

Nearly everything he did in life was to serve his own ends, his own ego, and he's lauded for that. His followers ate up his excuses like slop. He built the battle culture the Clans would come to know, by making a move to crush anything that mildly offended him

Of course he's not going to regret shit. Power gets him everything he wants. He's got a circling entourage of sycophants to tell him how smart and strong he is all the time, droves of warriors who pray to him for strength in battle, all of his enemies in life are now forced to treat him like a god-among-gods in heaven. And this is exactly the way he likes it.

Man got away with it, over and over. He collects his reward every starry night.

Any time where he WOULD be threatened with having his power taken away, he would simply gaslight/gatekeep/girlboss his way back to the top. What? You gonna stop him? He will kill you and then frame your murder like a grand triumph over the Great Unfairness of the world. He has the most prey in the forest. He has the strongest cats in the land. What are you, to him, besides an angry squirrel chattering atop the branch?

Why would he ever choose to be different? He wouldn't. Power gets him what he wants, and he loves getting what he wants.

#bone babble #better bones au

[dingleshartbeaufoy]

Some Bunkerclan warriors

In order:

Gorgeeye, former warrior of Bunkerclan but went missing after a sabotage and became a rogue and just meows like a maniac in the tunnels 😔😔. Used to a very respected senior warrior, but had terrible dreams from a mysterious place beyond Starclan

Hareleap, warrior of Bunkerclan but mysteriously disappeared from camp after returning from a failed patrol with his friend… still resembles an apprentice, most of the young warriors do. He has a son, Rabbitpaw, and a mate, Rosepetal

Braveheart (also known as Numbskull after he gets amnesia), warrior of Bunkerclan, doesn’t remember who he is and keeps trying to eat crowfood 🤤. Has been besties with Hareleap since the two became warriors. He be on dat nip though. When he was an apprentice he was mentored by Brightflame

Next is Thistlestar, Thornclaw, and Brightflame 🤭🤭🤭

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