#Anti aang fans

[aiyix98]

I don't like aang fans at all. In Twitter i stated the obvious in the southern raiders episode. Zuko gave katara the tools to confront Yonh Ra, which was what Katara needed. To confront her mothers' killer. Meanwhile, Aang, the only thing he did was to be preachy to Katara and he didn't even try to understand her needs. And the aangs' are in my comments inventing things that i didn't see or saying that i need to rewatch the show. And is very annoying. I wasn't talking about zutara or kataang, i was stating the obvious. They are very annoying.

#atla #avatar the last airbender #katara #atla zuko #Zuko #atla aang #Aang #atla katara #Anti aang fans

[sapphic-agent]

So someone on twitter said they like NATLA!aang more than cartoon!aang and someone else followed it up by saying that they didnt like how cartoon!aang was acting towards the water tribe food in that Bato episode, and now aang stans are excusing it with “he’s a kid!! He’s 12!” “characters aren’t allowed to have flaws now? Lol”. So when Zuko was disrespecting aang’s culture in the Southern Raiders episode, the fandom rightfully calls him out for being disrespectful…but ofc when aang does it as a comedic gag towards another culture ofc the fandom will scramble to excuse him.

I'm so sorry, I didn't see this!

I haven't seen NATLA in its fullest, but I actually did start taking a liking to NATLA Aang myself. Mostly because unlike with original Aang, they seem to be hammering in that Aang can't run from his responsibilities. It's setting him up for great character development. His feelings towards Katara are also way more platonic, which I love. Do I like him better than original Aang? Can't say yet, but I definitely see where they're coming from.

So, my response to the excuse that Aang is twelve is, "So you agree? He's not mature enough to be with Katara?"

Not even just for his actions in BOTWT either. Aang stans have a nasty habit of excusing all of Aang's actions with "He's 12/13!" And yes, that's true. And yeah, we can make the argument that he deserves leeway for that. But if Aang is too young to be respectful of Katara's culture, mindful of his emotions around her, and conscious of how his actions effect her, he doesn't need to be in a relationship with her.

Aang stans need to realize they can't have it both ways. Either Aang is too young to understand his actions and too immature to be in a relationship with Katara, or he's mature enough to be in a relationship with her and needs to be held accountable as such.

(The third ideal option would be that he has the capacity for growing and learning to be a good partner- not just for Katara, but anyone- he just needs to acknowledge and own his actions and make that change himself. But of course, that didn't happen: not in Book 3 or the comics)

But yeah, I hate the excuse that he's a kid. Not only is everyone else also a kid, using that as an excuse for his actions instead of a reason for him to learn to be better is doing Aang's own character an injustice

#aang critical #anti kataang #anti kataang shippers #anti aang fans #anti aang #tagging just in case #but really it just makes me mad on behalf of aang #neither aang fans nor bryke wanted aang to actually heal and grow and learn #they just want to project onto aang getting the girl and having his way in the end #anti bryke #anon ask

[burst-of-iridescent]

what's your opinion on whether or not canon zutara could have made sense to happen by the finale?? i can't decide if i would have preferred them getting together or just hints at it and then it's revealed in tlok that they got married (and ig the comics would include the story of them getting together then)

my stance has always been that the show should have ended with no canonical romantic relationships, or a hint of future zutara at best. we didn't need anything more than a quick, intimate scene where zuko and katara discuss their futures and promise to keep in touch, with maybe a lingering glance or two to foreshadow romantic feelings. no kiss or grand declarations necessary.

that being said, if a romantic relationship had to happen, zutara was both built up more and made more sense narratively than kat.aang and mai.ko. i wouldn't have liked a zutara kiss in the finale for many of the same reasons i didn't like the kat.aang one, but it would've at least been thematically fitting and consistent with the characterizations of everyone involved - unlike zuko ending up with someone who never underwent any of the growth he did, and katara entering a lifelong romantic relationship without even so much as a word to give us insight into her sudden change of heart.

the only way to really do justice to zutara would've been with book 4, allowing plenty of time for a proper slowburn friends-to-lovers arc, but the reason so many people ship them today is because their relationship at the end of the show is the perfect jumping-off point for a romance. canon didn't actually have to give us anything more - the seeds were all planted already, and the imagination of the fandom would've done the rest.

#zutara #anti kataang #anti maiko #they should've taken a leaf out of carmen sandiego's book #and left it up to the fans to decide what came next #every day i remember that atla chose to resolve the babysitter crush storyline instead of literally anything else in aang's arc #that ranks at no. 2 on worst decisions of all time surpassed only by bryke going for the m. night movie instead of book 4

[yxngchen]

how are u gonna be an atla fan but be “anti aang” mf did u watch the show lmao

#how r u gonna be a fan of a show called The Last Airbender #and then go on rant after rant abt how much u fucking HATE said airbender #like are u stupid or what #someone wasn’t paying attention to the show methinks ! #can’t believe those mfs even exist #if ur an aang hater ur so fucking stupid lmao #not to get heated over a fictional 12 year old from a kids show but uhhhh ur wrong and have terrible judgement #but i digress. peace and love😍😇 #atla #aang #anti aang #pro aang #iduna.txt

[mahiiragi]

I find it so funny when people say zutara fans are delusional or that Zuko was never an option for Katara and that kataang was always going happen... I mean, yes, kataang was probably always going to happen at the end of the day since Aang is Bryke's favorite and they have a "soft spot" for kataang (do you ever wonder why he resembles Michael DiMartimo in The Leyend of Korra? And by "soft spot" I mean they are die hard fans more immature than Aang seeing the Boy in the Iceberg, they got to the point of making a whole ass video mocking the ship and the children who liked it out of spite because zutara had fans in the first place and some kids didn't want Aang to end up with his "forever girl") and they have the final word for what goes in the avatar franchise.

Subparagraph to say that everytime I remember that Bryke made a video mocking zutara fans I lose my mind. What are you, grown ass adults, doing ridiculizing kids for a fictional couple that wasn't even canon and was not ever going to be canon because you, creator of the show, had the power to decide that? Don't you see how stupid and frankly evil and mean-spirited it is? Focus on developing your ship so it can have more fans instead; show us how Katara sees him as an equal, someone who she can share her burdens with, how she sees him through pink lens, how she decides to be with Aang because she chose it instead of just some "destiny" bullshit, how he challenges her and promotes her growth, how he supports her in her sorrows instead of being mostly the other way around, how Katara doesn't stop being Katara after she got together with Aang, HOW DID SHE LET AANG NEGLECT HER KIDS??

But people can't say zutarians are just "seeing things" or that it undeniably was never an option when there is a lot of official content implying Zuko and Katara as a couple and it was discussed in the very own writers room if Katara would end up with Zuko or Aang because many writers liked zutara (probably the reason we have too many winks at the ship in the show, books and promotional material in the first place) and it doesn't say anything to you that half of the fandom likes the "ship with no content" or the one that was created "out of the air" more than the one we see since ep 1??? Hint: it isn't because people are delusional, as Bryke said that one time: "Zuko and Katara may have shared some sparks"

Even my fifty-one year old mother likes zutara I swear to god. She saw both atla and tlok and thought zutara had a lot of potential and preferred kataang as a strong platonic relationship.

#zutara #anti bryke #anti aang #i love aang i swear but i have a love hate relationship with kataang #kataang deserved a better development #zutara fans don't deserve to be ridiculized

[evelynpr]

I might get burned at the fandom stake here, but I personally think Zuko x Katara x Aang being a thing when they are older would be very interesting and hilarious. Just hear me out-

Katara and Aang, married, both looking at Zuko: "Hey so my wife and I saw you across the bar, and we saved the world together and all so, can I get you some tea?" kinda vibe.

Like the three of them are all each other's narrative foils and parallels. They circulate each other narratively and emotionally throughout the whole series and even comics. When they're all older restoring peace around the world, they would have all spent so much time together I like to think it would just, kinda Click for them

#pls dont kill me for this kataang and/or zutara fans and antis i am begging for my life here #there is much more to this i have in mind #like these 3 would have essentially grown up together restoring peace around the world #but Zuko just feels almost like a missing piece to their relationship #Zuko and Katara are Aang's yin and yang to me like u just cant separate them #evelynpr atla #i just need to get this off my chest so i wont tag this too much #atla #avatar the last airbender #zutaraang

[theweeklydiscourse]

It’s a bit funny when ATLA fans who are so deeply attached to the show blame the fandom for the problematic elements of the actual text. They’ll say: “You missed EVERY message that the writers included! I can’t believe that you’re unable to understand the deliberate messages woven into the show!” And then the “message” in question will be a flaw they noticed in the text, an unresolved narrative issue, or an instance of the writers’ biases seeping through the story.

I just wish that certain fans would consider the idea that perhaps the writers were not as all-knowing as they thought they were and that those gaps manifested in the story. Blaming fandom for misinterpreting the story (according to your own interpretation of it) is so ridiculous and indicative of the reluctance to critique a beloved childhood show. ATLA was ahead of it’s time in a number of ways, but we have to stop acting like it is beyond reproach.

#sometimes your nostalgic childhood show isn’t as woke as you remember and might be problematic in certain areas #it’s not the fandom’s fault that we are engaging with the text that was presented to us. Some people’s issues with the fandom are really #just issues with the text itself. Like with Zuko’s supposed *mocking of Aang’s dead culture* They’ll complain that fans never address that #but if it is truly an instance in the story that you find insensitive #shouldn’t you take it up with the text? considering that the text is the thing that left it unresolved? #why is the fandom your priority when it comes to criticism? It sounds like the issue lies in the way the story was written as opposed to fan #reception of it #avatar the last airbender #anti bryke #atla fandom discourse #atla fandom salt #atla fandom critical #pro zutara #pro zuko #atla discourse #atla #fandom discourse

[rifari2037]

I did falling in love with Zutara and I probably always love them!

#katara x zuko #zuko x katara #zutara #zukoxkatara #zuko and katara #blue spirit x painted lady #zutara was robbed #pro zutara #anti anti zutara #anti kataang #atla zutara #zutara edit #zutara fan #zutara fandom #zutara forever #anti aang #antikataang #anti bryke #zk #anti zukka #anti maiko #atla zuko #atla katara

[the-badger-mole]

Why do zutara shiippers hate Aang so much?

Zutara shippers don't hate Aang. Some Zutara shippers hate Aang. A lot of Zutara shippers actually really like him. I hate Aang. I won't presume to speak for other Zutara shippers about why they hate him, though. I hate him because in universe, he's a lazy, disrespectful jerk who never gets called out because...I don't know...Avatar, I guess. His superficial cheeriness is rare enough during war times that it blinds people to his worst traits. As a character I hate him because he's sloppily written in a way that accidentally sets him up to be a villain, and without the consciousness and intent that goes into writing a villain, it actually makes for a boring character.

I guess that's Aang's biggest crime with me. Had he actually been intended to be as bad as he was, in the end, I would've liked him more because at least he would've been interesting. Instead, we get...baby Ross Gellar.

#atla #zutara #anti aang #anti kataang #lol! i did just kind of side swipe friends #i haven't seen most of the series #ross gellar is a huge part of the reason why #seriously! how did you friends fans get past his whiney sad-boi voice? #THE YEAR OF CONTENT!!!!

[punkeropercyjackson]

Listen........Let me cook

@insomniac-jay @mayameanderings

#nightwingkatara url you might see the light of day.......mayhaps maybe so possibly perhaps #batfam #atla geekery #daminika #taang #jayrose #maiko atla #dickroy #jetara #damian wayne #nika dc #aang #aanglove #aang antis dni #< insane that i have to put that on an aang ship post.but atla fans gonna atla fans #toph beifong #jason todd #rose wilson #zuko #mai atla #dick grayson #roy harper #katara #jet atla #dick grayson:trans woman extrodinare #transfem dick grayson #team mom dick grayson #punk katara #trans 4 trans and autistic 4 autistic realness #summerposting

[transformers0]

Look at this guy on Twitter saying that the other members of Team Avatar should have accepted Zuko as easily as Toph did.

Dude needs to learn that the real world does not work like that.

He's also even trying to say that Toph's attitude is fine and is justified by her parents' treatment of her.

#Avatar #Avatar: The Last Airbender #ATLA #A:TLA #Fan Dumb #Bad Take #Bad Takes #Zuko #Toph #Anti-Toph #Toph Critical #Zuko Critical #Character Critique #Critique #Criticism #The Western Air Temple #The Blind Bandit #The Runaway #Book 2 #Book 2: Earth #Book 3 #Book 3: Fire #TLOK #LOK #Legend of Korra #The Legend of Korra #Katara #Aang #Sokka #Team Avatar

[sapphic-agent]

(Sorry for the small text at the bottom)

#anti kataang shippers #anti aang fans #the more they speak the more they ruin him for me #someone made a post rightfully pointing out that zuko gave her a choice when aang did not #only to be overun by kataang/aang stans saying that zuko didnt know her and sokka and aang tried to stop her bevause they know and love her #bullshit. #aang tried to stop her because he wasn't comfortable with her decision #sokka tried to stop her because he didn't understand her grief or trauma #i need y'all to stfu about katara #because if there's anyone who doesn't understand her it's ppl who say this shit #y'all the same mfs who defend how she's written in the comics and lok #stfu #katara deserved better #the southern raiders #aang critical #sokka critical #anti kataang #tagging for visibility

[shadowjinx626]

How is it that a lot of ATLA shippers who have good meta on characters and ships they like, but also have terrible/questionable takes on ships and characters they don't like?

#atla #zutara #kataang #maiko #anti zutara #anti kataang #anti maiko #atla fandom critical #like if they're zutara shipper you're going to most likely see anti aang and mai posts #same with kataang shippers who having anti zuko posts #so lucky that i haven't encounter any maiko fans who have anti katara posts #and I am emphasizing the “terrible/questionable takes” because i don't want to confuse them for good criticism #because there are good criticism that i think should be discussed and acknowledge when it comes to the writing

[miss-sweetea-pie]

“Because it has to be so lonely

To be the only one who's holy”

Playing God/ Paramore

#katara #anti kataang #anti aang #atla southern raiders #katara deserved better #katara is allowed to be angry #zutara #fan edit

[longing-for-rain]

@ Purple Haze anon:

Not mad at you or anything, just not answering directly because I don’t want the person you mentioned crying that I’m inciting harassment or something.

But yea, I’m well aware that some kataang fans found that fic and have been seething over it. Some commented on the fic itself too. I don’t really care though. I’m happy with how that story ended and I think what happened was very much in character given the context (which you’d know if you actually read it) and the way the writer’s portrayed Aang’s behavior towards book 3. And tbh I was very generous to Aang in the way I ended his arc too.

Also agree with you that it is indeed pretty hilarious that the same people who idolize a character because he preaches “forgiveness” constantly call Zuko a “colonizer” and act like he’s somehow evil and tainted because of his bloodline no matter what he does, and that he’s forever guilty solely on the basis of being descended from Sozin, and that his new friends all secretly hate him. Very rational take, definitely doesn’t reek of a bitter insecure loser at all.

Anyways rant over. Thanks for the ask lol

#the ironic thing is that ive gotten hate from Zutara fans over this fic too #fandom salt #ask #anon #zutara #anti kataang #to be safe #zuko #katara #aang #fic: purple haze

[juana-the-iguana]

I really love this detail, because it means that even though Zuko and Katara don't end up together in a romantic relationship, they still care deeply about each other. Whether Zuko gave the flower to Katara (which I like to think), or Katara asked for it, it's still a very sweet exchange.

Throughout the series, and especially in the back half of season 3, we have seen these two characters grow as characters, grow together and become great friends and each other's greatest confidants. This one little not-even-scene shows that they didn't throw that relationship away even though they were dating other people.

#if Kat-aang HAD to happen i wish this also happened instead #just another thing on my list of #zutara #platonic zutara #anti kataang #anti maiko #seriously #part of why many zutara fans don't like post a:tla canon isn't just because zutara didn't happen #but because their friendship was needlessly obliderated