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g-on-ef · 2 years

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Rant prt 2

Never and I mean never in a million years will I forgive creators like vivzipop, Julie Plec, PC Cast, and so many more creators for not only villifying women who are feminine, but also giving everyone a reason as to why they were right into thinking these women deserve to be torture, cheated on, and every other horrible thing imaginable happen to them.

Stella has every right to be mad at Stolas this man not only cheated on her but he also slept with Blitz in their bed !!!

And yall wanna know what's messed up ???

There is proof that they at least got along !!! The picture above shows Stella and Stolas taking their daughter out to have a good time together and at the very least enjoying each other's company.

But guess what ??? We can't have that we need to make Stella the woman who wears dresses and is more in touch with her feminine side compare to the other two {millie and loona} the bad guy you know despite the fact her husband is a dickhead who cheated on her and basically told her to her face that he only slept with the imp in their bed cause he didn't have time to go to a motel

Episode five shows Stolas still hasn't learned from his lesson he still is taking Blitz to their shared bed {you know despite Octavia told him she is afraid her dad will leave her for him and was the cause of her parents constant arguing}

But wait we can't have people hating on Stolas let's show everyone how much of a bitch Stella is by showing how she hired an assassin to kill the poor bird.

Also the ironic thing is episode two literally shows how Stolas was showing how it's both his and Stella's fault for their doom marriage but nope let's all show how horrible Stella has always been as a child and an adult you know despite Stella also being in arranged marriage

Like ??? !!!

It's annoying that the women who are more feminine than the main characters in this show who have every right to feel the way they do are viewed as the bad guys/enemies and everyone is agreeing since they are bitches deserve to be treated the way they are

Edit: just saw that people say if you defend Stella than you hate gay people/gay relationships ... ... ... yall are aware that that trope is harmful right ??? That having the woman being seen as spiteful and hating her boyfriend/husband cause he is attracted to the same sex is harmful, dangerous, and homophobic right ??? You 17~19 year old DO KNOW THAT RIGHT ??? !!!

#helluva boss critical #anti helluva boss #anti stolitz #anti stolas #stella helluva boss #please tell me you teenagers have brains and know how to use them

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userlaylivia · 2 years

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i just know no matter what julie plec has said that I'm going to be disappointed with the roswell new mexico finale because they planned for a s5 and it'll open doors for s5 well never get ugh the cw you suckkkk you cancelled a show that has BETTER ratings than most of the shows you renewed like make it make sense pls?!?! the only shows out of the ones renewed I watch are riverdale and all american and I used to watch the flash but it sucks now imo ugh I'm still so mad over legacies not getting the ending it deserved and landon not getting out of limbo so I know I'll be disappointed with roswell in some ways but all I hope for is it ends with all my ships together and happy before they open those doors they talked about!! I'll NEVER forgive the cw for cancelling my two favorite shows in this damn network!!!!

#roswell new mexico #legacies #anti the cw #is that a tag??? lol

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waltwhitmansbeard · 1 year

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For the ship rating ask meme thingy that I totally did not forget to send yesterday:

Klaus and Camille from The Originals.

Send me a ship and I'll rate it. A+: OTP A: I love it B: It's really cute C: Not a bad ship D: I'm neutral on it E: I don't really like it F: NOTP N/A: I don't know the ship well enough

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there isn't a rating low enough in this world

putting spoilers under the cut ig

the day cami died was the best day of my life. it is the day i started believing in god (not gonna tell you which one tho). fuck that bitch so goddamn much. there has never been a more annoying character or love interest in all of tvd and yes i am aware that jeremy gilbert exists!!!!! like ok i also deeply do not like davina but at least davina has the excuse of being a literal child when she does things that are massively hypocritical and devoid of any internal logic. i fucking hate cami so much. (also like i gotta believe the wardrobe dept hated her too bc damn her outfits were WHACK even for the mid 2010s)

BUT DO NOT MISTAKE ME FOR A KLAUS MIKAELSON APOLOGIST!!!! THE MAN IS ROTTING IN HELL AND IT IS ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!!! i may hate cami but FUCK his abuse in season one is truly terrifying, like on part with damon's behavior in *gestures broadly*. i will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever forgive julie plec for breaking up haylijah bc elijah *checks note* hurt hayey in his brain and not in real life, when klaus got to treat cami like that and still be a ship that ended romantically with her death and not her fucking murdering him!!!!!! (TO SAY NOTHING OF DELENA BEING ENDGAME OOOOOH I AM BIG MAD!!!!) julie plec gonna join klaus in hell fr fr!!!!!

#ask #ravendruid #the originals

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sunshinebarbie95 · 2 years

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Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks Caroline's stans are super toxic. When I watched TVD the first time Caroline I totally didn't care for her, I didn't hate her but I didn't like her either, it wasn't until I got into the fandom that I realized she has the most unbearable fandom.

I agree that she had a good development after she became a vampire but her fans make it very hard to get attached to her. For example, when you look up videos or content of Klaus with Haley or Cami or even Elena there are ALWAYS Klaroline fans screwing around and trying to impose their ship.

Why fight over ships when the Klaroline is NOT canon? Not to mention that at one point in the series it was already absurd that Caroline has had romantic relationships with almost the whole damn male cast for some reason I don't understand?

I agree Caroline herself isn’t that bad I didn’t like her at first but I liked her when she became a vampire but once she made Tyler act like nothing happened after klaus killed his mother and had sex with klaus I honestly lost all respect for her especially considering if Rebekah killed Caroline’s mom and Tyler had sex with her Caroline would never forgive him so honestly in my opinion how Tyler reacted was pretty calm and pg rated, and I’m sorry but Caroline’s stans are horrible they act like it’s against the law of you don’t like her and have to shove their opinions down your throat but one thing that makes me happy is in the books Caroline and Tyler are endgame so take that klarotrash shippers lol and I see a lot of klarotrash shippers saying forwood was just sex and I’m like no forwood was a beautiful healthy relationship and the only reason they broke up was because klarotrash fans bullied Julie plec into it but klarotrash wasn’t even a couple they were literally a fuck in the woods and that’s it sorry I just have a lot of unpopular opinions about tvd

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galvanizedfriend · 2 years

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I was just here thinking about how I've been in this fandom for roughly three and a half years now and how it all came to pass and how life is a bitch, you know.

I was just minding my own business, lalala, and then a freaking vampire teen show on the CW decided not to give me my promised endgame, and that made me so ??? indignant ??? I had to start reading and writing fanfiction. And now three and a half years later I'm still here, more obsessed with the pairing than I had ever been while the shows were airing, all because they wouldn't deliver on this basic promise.

I mostly dislike everything that happened to the TVDu after S5 of TVD. Few scenes here, few characters there, whatever. But I didn't enjoy it anymore. It didn't SPARK JOY. And yet I was really chill about it. I see people getting legit mad at showrunners and stuff, and while I understand the feeling, I never really shared that hatred because I was always willing to accept that TVD was just going to be bad. And there's nothing wrong with that! lol I enjoy the bliss of crappy TV. Bad, absurd, nonsensical shows can make for really great entertainment. Not everything has to be Six Feet Under, you know. And when I started watching TVD, I think mid-season 3 was already airing, or maybe s4 was about to start, so I had a pretty good idea what I was getting into, never had any expectations about what a teen drama on the CW was or was not going to deliver. I was chill.

So when it went from bad-but-actually-good to just bad, I was just shrugging, rolling my eyes and going 'ok', because all I wanted was my endgame. That's the only reason I was watching it. I was never drawn to TVD as a whole, the storytelling was never that compelling to me, the world building never truly gripping, and while the first 3 seasons were REALLY good (S2 and 3 are awesome, come on), what kept going back every week was Klaroline. And I figured, even after S4, one day the crossover will happen, they will bring those two back together. There's no way they're just gonna throw this out. I was willing to wait patiently for it. However long it takes.

Not really though, because I ended Marie Kondo-ing the shit out of that and quit TVD on S7 and couldn't make it past the beginning of TO S3, so I dropped both. But every six months I would hop on Google and type 'Klaroline crossover'. Something told me one day it would come. When S5 was finally announced, I felt PEACE, man. I was like YES, FINALLY. I KNEW IT. I felt REWARDED. I EARNED this.

And here's the thing about me: all my ships die. It's just a curse I carry with me that I'm sure I will pass on to my children, and my children's children, and their children after that. The curse of being eternally heartbroken and frustrated over fictional characters. It's awful here, guys. Real life sucks and then THIS, you know. So unfair.

It's so, so rare for me to actually have a ship that gets me INVESTED. Even when I like characters/a show/a pairing, for me to have PERSONAL FEELINGS towards them, it takes mountains moving and planets aligning. And so far, whenever it has happened, someone died. I NEVER got my endgame. EVER. And when I wrapped myself around Klaroline like a snake around a little calf it wants to devour, it was because I, fool that I am, thought there was NO WAY a teen vampire show wasn't going to give me my endgame, especially when they had been hinting at it for YEARS. TVD LITERALLY ends with them saying Klaroline was endgame. I had just had my heart ripped apart by The Good Wife and Homeland. Torchwood, my OG fandom and only other time I ever got into fanfiction, killed my soul. Cowboy Bebop, my baby Yokie ship? Dead. Beautiful, poetic, I fully support it - but also, consider my heart.

I saw these two vampires, VAMPIRES, and I thought: wow, I'm finally safe. It's the BASIC understanding of teen shows that ships need to happen. You don't cheat teenagers, dude. You don't break their hearts. That's just mean. And then when S5 was announced, I knew I had been right all along. I watched that mess and I was like "They have Nazi vampires in this season and Klaus is out there saying shit like 'They hate me because of what I am' [a hybrid, not a mass murderer psycho who's also essentially an asshole *affectionate*], but hey - it'll be fine. Klaroline will be endgame. Nazi vampires don't matter. Klaroline matters."

I was chill, dudes. I was very chill. Compared to how vitriolic people have been about TVD over the years, I was just CHILL.

And then they betrayed me. While I will argue that Klaroline ended up being *the* endgame pairing, since Elijah essentially worked to get Hayley killed (hahahaha dude wtf), and Caroline and Klaus were *it*, as we always knew they would be, I was just... Livid. I could not BELIEVE what those bitches had done to me.

This was me:

They put me through NAZI VAMPIRES, YOU GUYS. Klaus was like 'Oh no, they are killing wolves, because they are LIKE ME' when he basically spends his entire TVDu career HATING and KILLING wolves himself. And it was all for NOTHING.

I can take shows like The Good Wife killing my ships. I was destroyed, but I can take it, because shows like TGW aim to be 'superior drama'. They are going for the awards. I don't feel cheated by them. But The Vampire Diaries? Are you effing kidding me?

I had been watching TVD for years before that fateful day in August 2018 when Klaus turns to glittery dust without having ever felt like reading fanfiction. But I remember I finished that episode, got my computer, and went straight to AO3. From the ashes of my indignation, an urge was born. And I've been here ever since.

I wasn't even asking for a *good* finale. I had long abandoned any notion that this show, which featured Nazi vamps and a snowflake baby that grows up to kill the mom who basically raised her all by herself, was going to give me *good*. I just wanted it to BE, period. All I wanted was to collect my fan service and be done with it. I'm easy to please, I'd be happy. If they'd given me that, I would probably not be here right now. AND YET.

Why am I writing all this? I have no idea. I was just thinking about it. Life, huh? Just as pointless as this post.

#yokan talks #personal #this makes no sense #long post #for all your mistakes and crimes julie plec #this is the one thing i shall never forgive you for #me and my vampire show that ruined my life #however i love those two idiots your honor #send me to jail

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differentlyweird · 2 years

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I recently started watching the vampire diaries, Here are my thoughts (I’m on 4x10 but I know what happens)

Let’s get into it

• I like Tyler, Matt, and Jeremy. They went through so much AND STILL did they best they could to help the group.

• BONNIE DESERVED SO MUCH MORE (she’s my favorite)

• Stelena&Delena are both boring (I do like the three of them separate)

• Stelena seasons 1-3 were really cute

• Tyler did some horrible things but his hatred/ want for revenge is 100% justified. He got everything taken from him.

• Matt was just trying his best in all the screwed up shit he was brought into. He also lost everything he had. He wasn’t useless, he just wanted to help

• The fandom over looks the horrible things their favorites do (Damon,Klaus, Elena,even Hayley) but shit on “useless” characters like Matt, Bonnie, Jeremy, etc. Those are your favs I get it but the double standards isn’t cool

• I really like Caroline she’s in my top five

• I really like how happy/soft Klaus was for Caroline

• I shipped Forewood (Tyler x Caroline) also very cute until their breakup

• None of the group would be able to do anything without Bonnie (screw you julie plec. Musty ass hater)

• I don’t think Elena was too emotional or overdramatic but she did just kind of ask things of her friends without even considering their feelings sometimes. She did this a lot to Bonnie (I don’t hate her though)

• Elena would be nothing without her compassion. I love that about her

• I really think that Bonnie x Jeremy had the potential to be great if they would’ve had more character development and he wouldn’t have cheated on her WITH A FUCKING GHOST

• I really liked steroline, I thought the complemented each other well. They were what each other needed (Although I firmly believe Lexi would’ve been his best partner)

• I haven’t started the originals yet but I really like Hayley (never going to forgive her for what she did to Tyler)

• Enzo didn’t deserve to die, he deserved to live happily ever after with Bonnie (never forgiving the way they just ripped Bonnie apart even more, BY HER OWN FRIEND)

• Alaric should’ve stayed dead (but I’m glad that Elena and Jeremy eventually got a member of their family back)

• Klaus has his moments but that greedy asshole had no reason to be such an evil to the main group (I’ll have to wait until the originals but I’m mad at him)

• Delena complements each other (still don’t really ship them though)

• REBEKAH DESERVED A BETTER FAMILY. Klaus was such a horrible bully to her

• The fact that the only ones who got a true happy ending was Delena will forever piss me off the others deserved peace too. Instead most of them lost everything and none were truly at peace by the finale. They would’ve never got their happy ending if it wasn’t for their family/friends.

I know I might make some people mad but I intentionally went in thinking this just going to be an epic love story about Delena but was pleasantly surprised by the characters that really touched me and made the show so much more than just the ships people talk about. I really liked this show. Now to watch the originals

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tvdoriginal · 3 years

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Revisiting 8x11 - Julie I'll Never Forgive You [SPOILERS]

In Loving Memory of Enzo St. John

It's no secret that I rewatch The Vampire Diaries like a good amount of others. It's no secret that I have tremendous love for Enzo St. John, Bonnie Bennett, and their relationship. I just finished rewatching 8x11 and no matter how many times I've seen it, it doesn't matter that I know what happens when, it never gets any easier seeing someone you love, that you've followed on this journey with die. Especially for no reason.

Julie Plec and others, I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever forgive you for one of many pointless murders of this show. Enzo did NOT deserve to die in any circumstance. If you were going to bring him back, then fine, I'd consider giving you a pass, but you didn't. Why ruin a perfectly good couple and character? Why do you constantly insist on giving Bonnie Bennett nothing? After all this time you're still against POC characters even though the millions of fans are die-hards for these characters. They deserve to be seen, they deserve respect, and they deserve better than you.

Enzo and Bonnie, they both came a long way individually and as a partnership. The one time they could've had their ideal life, it was stripped away by others once again. The other characters had the audacity to feel shocked and betrayed that the two putting themselves and their happiness first as if they've never done it themselves. It's been a few years since The Vampire Diaries ended, but I still demand justice for these characters.

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#the vampire diaries #tvd #tvd rant #bonenzo #bonnie bennett #enzo st. john #kat graham #michael malarkey #tvdforever #julie plec #tvdu

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imissthembutitwasntadisaster · 3 years

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Thoughts on the Vampire Diaries before I watch the final episode

Look at where we are!!! Look at where we started!!!

I didn’t think I would care for this story as much as I did, but I do and I’m oddly weepy. I’m going to cry so much this episode I know it.

Please don’t think these will be my last thoughts I have Many and you will never be rid of them.

I understand why a lot of people dislike Elena in the later seasons - her characterisation, like many’s, went downhill. I cannot however, understand why they dislike her in the early seasons. She’s so good! and she knows what is good! “It matters and you know it”! She is Right and I love her!

The fact that Damon, who wasn’t loved by Katherine, ended up with Elena, and Stefan, who was, ended up with Caroline... I don’t know why that specifically is important but it is crucial actually.

Bonnie’s characterisation was butchered at times, and she definitely didn’t deserve the suffering that was inflicted constantly on her. She didn’t have to lose Enzo, for example, because there was no point to it. it felt superfluous. However, I think there is something extremely important in the fact that she’s the most physically powerful of the main characters because of her magic, but her truest greatest power is forgiveness. She forgives, over and over again, and I don’t see that as weakness, or letting things slide. I see that as an incredible strength. It takes will to forgive, and she has that in spades.

Bonnie and Enzo really stole my heart in like four episodes. They’re so romantic! and sweet! and genuine and open and good! I’m SO SAD about Enzo!!!!!

Also look at how much Bonnie has grown. Look at her. She.

I would still die for Caroline. She has remained incredible throughout. She cares so much about everything. And she’s been chosen first! She wasn’t always second choice!!! Her!!!

This show is constantly weirdly easy to read through a Christian lens and I adore that.

As best as I can remember, considering this is a first watch through, 8>6>2>1>3>4>5>7. I know I have bad taste, please leave me alone.

It’s about Love! It’s about the saving power of Love! And the different ways in which that manifests!!!

Hey remember when I hated Damon so much it was a visceral loathing? fun times.

I have a lot of thoughts about Damon and selfishness actually. Because he never actually becomes selfless! and that’s OK! Like when he sacrifices himself so Stefan and Elena can live, that’s not selfless, that’s not because he wants them both to live long lives. It felt more to me that he couldn’t bear to lose either of them, so he was willing to lose himself instead, which I love.

Oh but he has become My Boy his redemption means so much, it was so good! It’s possibly actually one of the less flawed redemption arcs I’ve seen! It was mostly coherent! He’s so weird and full of love for people and has terrible fashion sense and I love him so much.

Bonnie and Damon snuck up on me, and are now my favourite relationship of the show. They’re BEST FRIENDS!!! They hang out! They chat! They dance together! They have the best hugs!!!

Damon in general is such a good friend though, because he’s so open about everything, he keeps his heart so much on his sleeve, and that’s wonderful because it means as soon as he has a friend he’s like anyway I love you and even if I don’t say it let me show you oh I’m just going to apologise to you for the first time in the show after literally telling you I never apologise because I love you so much even though you literally came to this town to kill me. Let him be friends with everyone! he deserves it!

Speaking of, he and Caroline? being friends? she laughs at him? everything the world needed.

Stefan and Caroline are impeccable together I’m so happy they got to get married. A June wedding!!! THE June wedding!!!!!!! I love a wedding! The best! Disappointed that it was blown up, but we move, and at least no one was murdered this time.

Julie Plec is an only child I’m sure of it but also she understands that “you’re my sibling” is an explanation for everything, good or bad, and sure that is accurate.

Stefan and Damon’s relationship is so important to me. The grey-ness of it! The attempts to create this good/bad dichotomy that constantly break down until they admit that they’re the same! foolish, messed up men who are trying to be Good. I love them both so much it’s stupid.

I miss Jenna.

Season 1: Life/death. Season 2: Revelations/truth/discovery. Season 3: Grief/Change. Season 4: Trial/difficulty/endurance. Season 5: heaven knows. Season 6: humanity. Season 7: someone please tell me I have no idea because the writers didn’t either. Season 8: Forgiveness/community (you can’t save yourself! but someone else always will! and that’s the point!!!)

You know when you have that work of fiction that is almost life-altering, which becomes Yours? That you consume it and it becomes lodged in your heart deeper than any other, and will stay with you all your days? I think this is one of those. I am so grateful that I started watching it.

Every Taylor Swift song ever has actually been written about this show! How wonderful!

#tvd #the vampire diaries #my heart my whole heart every inch #and every cranny

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callmelynx · 4 years

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Bonkai is not a crime!

Let's start at the very beginning. Really at the very beginning - in the 1800s.

The heretics Lilian Salvatore adopted - Nora, Mary Louise and Valerie, to be precise - are outcast members of the Gemini Coven. They were cast out only because they lacked the ability to create magic themselves and were born siphoners.

So did Malachai Parker.

His father was also someone to whom the coven and its rules were more important than the love for his children - a fact which we know not only from Kai, but also from the descriptions of Liv and Luke.

Joshua Parker disregarded and abused his young son. Joshua acted like he could blame it on Kai not being a witcher. He was downgraded, isolated and treated like no kid ever should be.

Even as a child, Kai knew that he was not only loved and not even accepted by his family, but also by his circle. Because of a quality that he never had any control over.

In addition, Kai realized very early that everyone hopes that Josette will win the merge. That implies that Kai knew he was living to die for Josette. Imagine what it does to someone to grow up knowing that everyone wants you to be no older than 22?

It is said that twins have a special bond with one another. So let's briefly dedicate ourselves to Josette.

She calls Kai a "parasite" over and over again and out of complete conviction, which is much more than a insult. After all, she could call him other names ... But back to the parasite. The term parasite or parasite does not identify a specific group of animals, but characterizes a particular way of life. ... In contrast to this, the parasite can use its "host" several times to obtain food, and "tap" it again and again.

By definition, this tapping is characteristic. The siphoner taps magic. So Josette also reprimands Kai for something that he cannot change. We can assume that Josette hated Kai long before the Portland massacre and not just since.

For everyone in his family and even the coven, Kai was the black sheep nobody wanted

He was also banished to isolation, which is worse than "just" dying. The Gemini banished Kai to continue his old life, abandoned and lonely. Loneliness is the worst of all punishments.

I know Kai did bad things.

But we are at TVD. Everyone does bad things. There is no character without blood on their hands.

Kai's decision to kill his family, Jo and the coven is somehow understandable. It's a consequence of his past, of everything that was done to Kai.

Take Kol, Damon or (Ripper-) Stefan as a counterexample. Each of them has killed more people for far fewer reasons and no one has a problem forgiving these horrific acts.

Don't get me wrong. I love Damon. But he killed a pregnant woman; Jeremy, only because Elena refused to kiss him. Stefan wipes out entire villages. He becomes a ripper several times, despite knowing the consequences. Do you know the quote: once is a mistake, twice is a decision? Just sayin '

Each of these deaths is caused by far less than the deaths that are Kai's responsibility. But nobody has a problem looking over it because of ...

... guilt and remorse.

Things Kai Parker doesn't know because he's a sociopath. It would be correct to say that he was a sociopath. By merging with Luke, he absorbed the abilities for the rest of his life. To say that the big difference lies in the insight into guilt does not count (anymore).

Where we finally got to Bonkai.

Yes, Kai was cruel to Bonnie.

But without Kai's help on Bonnie's birthday, Bonnie would be stuck in the prison world while I am typing this novel.

Kai was half dead, had no advantage in freeing Bonnie and still risked his life to send Jeremy to Bonnie and saved her.

Kai put Bonnie above himself, which means that Bonnie (probably as the only one) could have reach out to him to show him a world that is not determined by hate. Like Elena did with Damon or Davina with Kol.

Kai was definitely ready to go beyond his limits for Bonnie.

That's why I don't find Bonkai as terrible as the fandom mostly reacts to this shipping.

Just because Julie Plec didn't want Bonkai doesn't make it a

Personally, I don't think Bonnie and Kai have to get together. Too happened between them - even for my taste, but they could figure things out and at least became friends.

Every character got their second chance except Kai.

Thanks for reading.

I'm out.

#kai parker #malachai parker #bonkai #bonnie bennett #tvd fandom

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sayruq · 3 years

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I love your opinions and I would love to hear you go off about how terrible damon salvatore is. I hated him in the beginning (should’ve trusted my instincts), but then I got obsessed with ian somerhalder for some reason and suddenly I liked the character. I was only 13, so I allow myself some grace for that lmao

i can’t really blame you since the show was determined to make him seem sexy and fun. damon is probably the most irredeemable character on the show. even katherine had the self awareness to know what type of person she was. damon was just awful on so many different levels and i hate how the show made the characters forgive him over and over again. he killed jeremy just because elena didn’t want him, she forgave him. he raped caroline and she’s never allowed to get angry about that. he used the sire bond and pursued elena even though he knew his brother was in love with her. when he escaped the prison world, he fucked around as though bonnie wasn’t trapped there. he murdered lexi, his brother’s best friend. he murdered tyler. on and on the list goes, he is just evil and the show refused to hold him accountable. in any other show he would be the main antagonist and the other characters would team up to kill him. instead stefan sacrificed himself for damon again and damon got to spend the rest of his life with elena. what’s worse is that katherine went to hell but damon got to see stefan again. make that make sense.

i’m infuriated just thinking about it. julie plec couldn’t hide her boner for this creep. even ian knew how fucked up damon was. damon never really faced any consequences, he got away with it all. bonnie, caroline and stefan suffered, stefan was tortured by the things he had done, even elena, who had everyone’s attention even when it didn’t make sense, suffered some setbacks but not damon. elena’s in love with stefan? make her weirdly ok with damon’s stalker behaviour and the way he is violent with her friends and family. invent the sire bond just to make sure she never thinks about stefan. people like stefan and think damon is evil? make stefan turn damon into a vampire and then make him a ripper. poor damon, isn’t his brother worse? bonnie rightfully hates damon? trap them together and then make their friendship one side.

i understand why people don’t like elena because everything revolves around but damon is worse, much worse

#anti damon salvator #anti the vampire diaries #anti tvd #rape tw #jonsansa

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g-on-ef · 2 years

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Stolas isn’t without his many, many faults. I’m not saying he should go without being criticized. But neither of their behavior should be excused. Instead of shining the light on JUST Stolas, why are you trying to excuse what Stella HAS done?

This is what I wrote in the beginning of my rant that's got everyone upset here's why I'm including it, since this episode has aired everyone has made it clear that they were right about hating Stella,

Oh she's always been an evil bitxh well she deserves to be hated on

Calling Stolas names in front of her peers yep she deserves to be crucified and ridicule for her mistreatment of Stolas

I mean both have flaws and both deserve better than the shitty writing that Viv is giving us but if yall can defend Stolas for his shitty behavior so can I with Stella the thing is back in episode 2 Stolas openly admits both he and Stella were to blame for their marriage the difference is one continued his shitty ways and the other was written to be horrible and abusive and higher an assassin so everyone could feel sorry for the poor bird and hate on her

#answers asked #anon asked #anonymous

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tvdversefanfiction · 3 years

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The Originals 30 Day Challenge, Done in 1 day.

I love all of these 30 day challenge pics/posts/quests but I never have the patience to do it over 30 whole days, so instead I do them in one sitting, one go.

MY TVD 30 DAY CHALLENGE HERE

Feel free to comment your own opinions about The Vampire Diaries spin-off The Originals, whether it’s your favorite show within the TVDverse like myself or whether you just love it as much as I also love the other two shows TVD and Legacies, Legacies will have its own 30 day challenge soon enough too...

Feel free to answer these too, copy, paste it, like I have and do it for yourself...

1 - If you follow this post, or read any of my TO fanfiction it will come as no surprise to anyone that I’m in love with and very obssesed with Klaus Mikaelson, he will always be my king.

2 - Rebekah Mikaelson, she’s so badass yet has this softness that makes her so compelling at the same time, I worship this queen and often wonder what this show would have looked like if she remained a main star for all of its five season run.

3 - Making me choose between the love of my life Klaus, and the icon that is Rebekah is hard...so hard but I have to go with Rebekah on the grounds that when he hurts Rebekah in any way I’m always mad like no, not my Rebekah, whereas when its the other way around I’m normally like yeah he deserved that from her...Rebekah is the fictional bestfriend of my life and Klaus is the husband, and friends always come before men - side not this very answer will later be used on record when I find myself in an asylum one day lol

4 - I’d have to go with either Marcellus or Inadu, although Marcel is beyond irritating to me throughout most of his run I can’t argue his reasons for being annoying are somewhat justifiable especially after Davina’s death in season 3 :( so I’d say I hated Inadu the most, purely because the character in itself was so wasted, so stale, and a dud to be honest...I was hoping for more with the hollow arc but I’ll get to that later on no doubt.

5 - Season 1 Episode 16, Farewell to Storyville, Season 1 in general was one of the strongest debut seasons for any shows I’ve ever watched, if not the strongest! I loved Rebekah and Klaus’ bond most out of the siblings and although Klaus spends most of the episode trying to kill her and it involves Rebekah leaving as a main character...this has got to be the juiciest exploration of their relationship - also side note young Elijah should have left young Rebekah kill Mikael, just saying...

6 - I could put the entirety of Season 5 in here, minus all the epicness of all the Klaroline scenes and Hayley’s badass death...but to pick one episode out it would have to be the finale “When the saints go marching in” because it just felt like they had spent that season killing off characters who were least likely to appear in Legacies (which pissed me off), also I wanted Klaroline to be endgame and Julie Plec’s response to not doing that because of Steroline, a ship that always felt like Caroline was second place and that queen should be always be 1st.

I did not like that Klaus and Elijah died, which reminded me visually of that Avengers scene, which made no sense as we have seen originals die before and not once did it go down like that!

And even if I could forgive them for that I was rather pissed we saw no after life, even a Elijah and Hayley dance in the afterlife would have been appreciated...

I’m also always a little bittersweet when folk from the pilot don’t show up in the last episode, would have loved to seen more of Davina in general over seasons 4 and 5. (Rant over)

7 - Try not to pick a Klaroline scene...never mind, when Caroline first appears, pinning Klaus up against the wall and saying something along the lines of try picking on someone your own size, or the swoony moment in Mystic Falls where she tells him he was never the villain in his story, or again the swoony moment when their road tripping and trying to find Hope... but non Klaroline scenes which were epic, Davina going up against Klaus with the harvest power inside of her, Lucien going upgraded original and taking them all on, Dahlia’s entire arc, the finales of 1,2, 3, and 4 and last but definitely not least kid Hope’s entire arc, what a magnificent actress Summer Fontana is, a star in the making *

8 - “ We are the strongest creatures in the world, and yet we're damaged beyond repair. We lived without hope, but we will never die. We are the definition of cursed, always and forever.” said by Rebekah Mikaelson, all of the Mikaelson’s had epic quotes, this show, and it’s predecessor TVD have so many amazing quotes <3

9 - Klaus handing baby Hope over to Rebekah, trusting her above all others, and any scenes where Klaus, Hayley, Rebekah, Elijah and Kol have with baby Hope as well as kid hope - broody moments lol

10 - Josh’s death, I had feared his death every goddamn season especially knowing Julie Plec wanted him killed in the very first season :( however after being made a regular in the finale season I had hopes for him making it out alive and perhaps showing up in Legacies in a more prominent role as a teacher for the vamp kids or something...but no that woman just had to finish off her hit...nothing breaks me more than his death! Although, reuniting with Aiden in the afterlife gives me small comfort, Aiden’s was another’s death that was so sad!

11 - Kid Hope putting people in their place like Marcel, and even Davina (who I worship), I just loved this little badass kid going about like a little queen from the get go...Danielle Rose Russell had and still has very big shoes to fill IMO

12 - Freya and Elijah condemning Davina to the ancestors, or Elijah who was supposed to love Marcel like a son ripping out Marcel’s heart. A lot of season 4 Elijah annoyed me tbh, 50% of Hayley scenes ticked me off too and Marcel was a solid 90% throughout the entire run.

13 - Hmmm....Klaus meeting his real father then killing him in order to protect Hope as he just could not risk trusting his father :( that broke me, other shocking moments when Gia died, Hayley’s first and second death...

14 - Friendship as in friends but not family? friendship within family would be Rebekah and Klaus always, friendship outside of family bonds I would definitely say either Davina and Josh or Rebekah and Hayley.

15 - Klaroline, although I put myself out here considering they only kissed once in this show...I never shipped Haylijah but never hated it, I despised Camille and the Klamille ship and always will, I enjoyed Elijah and Gia but doubt it run its course well I think, I always thought Rebekah deserved more than Marcel and still do...so I’m going with Kolvina, even though Kol killed Davina, thanks to those damn ancestors, their romance was super sweet, I loved how Kol loved her and their marriage, though briefly seen, was everything! We should have got a flashback of their wedding god damn it! But I’ll settle for them being two of the few who got happy endings...and could appear in Legacies ;) fingers crossed!

16 - I loved Marcel singing How You Like Me Now, I wish Charles Michael Davis had a few more musical numbers within this show, he’s a really talented actor, singer, director...

17 - Joseph Morgan hands down, loved him from his first scene in TVD and loved his other work in Hex and Brave New World, to name a few...

18 - Claire Holt, she’s just wonderful as Rebekah and the actress herself, she seems like such a genuine sweetheart in real life and you can really see her love for the character of Rebekah too, I also liked her other work in A Violent Separation, 47 Meters Down and no I’ve never seen H20...yet

19 - The Originals hands down, although so far TVD is in second place, with Legacies in third place but with Legacies still going I have high hopes for that climbing...all are fabulous shows in their own rights <3

20 - Okay I wouldn’t be me if I did not answer this future episode question without a link to a fanfic season 6 of mines... Origins of Magic and my alternative season 5 Bad Blood

21 - Off the top of my head? Davina and Kol teaching at Salvatore Boarding School, giving Hope some family connections that she severely lacks in Legacies and how awesome would they be as teachers? I’d also like to see a cousin whether it be Freya and Keelin’s son Nik or Rebekah and Marcel adopt a child (creature) that also ends up in Legacies. Side note - may put this in my possible fanfic ideas board...

22 - I don’t think I could claim to be most like any one individual, I’d say I was definitely a little dorky like Josh but nowhere near as adorable, I have a lot of hurt inside of me like Davina and protect my friends as much as I can, I’ve definitely got a bit of paranoia like Klaus from being screwed over many times like him and also like them it was mostly by family members, I’m definitely as curious and of a quiz like nature as Camille, love a little too easy like Rebekah and get my hear broken too often like her too, can be a little bit twistedly playful like Kol although I’ve not killed half as many people ; I’d love to one day be as elegant as Elijah, or as brave as Hayley and who would not want to be a Tribrid like Hope?

23 - How is this any different to 4? Although I’ll just answer Inadu purely because of the waste of potential and how not one single time did I give a damn about her, although I despised that vampire bitch who killed Hayley!!!

24 - I definitely relate to Klaus, Rebekah, Josh and Davina the most which is why they are my favorites no doubt.

25 - Klaus Mikaelson, any day, any time, anywhere, unless of course him and Caroline make it work I love their love more than I love my love for Klaus so I’d be happy just watching them being happy as a stalker lurking in the bushes within the back garden of their marital home - side not another statement that could be put on record for my eventful visit to the asylum..

26 - The family bonds, I love how it’s not all about romances like it is in TVD and so far Legacies, but still has romances at the same time. I love the complicated bonds between Klaus and his siblings Rebekah, Elijah, and Kol (in that order) and I love the little homemade family of Marcel with Davina and Josh (also in that order) and Marcel’s complicated father/son relationship with Klaus.

I also love how we watch Hope from being in Hayley’s womb, to a baby, toddler, child and then teenager and the powers she shows even from as young as being a baby and stopping the car she was in with Cami (even if that did save Cami’s life for a little longer) sorry not sorry we all got to hate on somebody and I did compliment her in 22 sort of lol

27 - The fact that its finale season served more like a prequel to Legacies than a fitting ending to a show I had been invested in since before it even began airing, as most fans were, we have loved these characters since their inception in TVD and it did kind of feel like Julie kind of started the finale season with a hit list in mind killing off anyone she’d think would not cameo in Legacies at some stage which I guess is why there is so much ill will from TO fans for Legacies, which I did feel for a while.

I mean I still blame Hope for Klaus and Hayley’s deaths, also Elijah for Hayley’s death and Marcel for Josh’s but I do not blame the characters have as much as I blame Plec.

28 - Season 5 lol, Season 4 although at the time I did not want it to be its end, would have served as a better ending for TO and they could have still made Legacies work without any ill will of making TO’s finale season pitch Legacies.

29 - The Hollow turning out to be Henrik, or the original witch, or anything other than what is was, also the werewolf origins should’ve have been a bit more epic like the vampires origins were.

30 - I do love Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies in interviews, Daniel Gillies is one of the funniest actors behind the scenes and has great bromances with Joseph, Paul Wesley and many others within the TVD verse. I also love Claire Holt’s and Phoebe Tonkin’s friendship and how that’s been a thing since they starred in H20 together (which I want to watch purely because of those two)

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jbuffyangel · 4 years

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Hi Jen! I know you're a diehard Stelena shipper so here's my question for you with a bit of backstory. I was a hardcore Stelena fan until when Stephan made Elena think he'd drive them off the bridge (3x10?) so she'd let him go. I understand why he did it, but that went too far for me and i couldn't ever ship them again after that. I couldn't get over him forcing her to relive her most traumatic moment, regardless of his reasoning. What are your thoughts on that moment in their relationship?

Yeah, that was a real low point in Stelena’s story. For me, not as low as Stefan drowning in a safe all summer while Elena banged his brother, but still low.

Before we get into this I’m going to just say - every viewer has to draw their own line in the sand. If that moment was your line that’s completely fine. I may have different lines for different shows and characters, but I don’t believe anyone’s lines are more valid than others.

So here’s the way I look at The Vampire Diaries Nonnie - they are all terrible people. Arguing morality with these characters is a black hole. They are all murderers. In fact, if a character runs the straight and narrow for too long Julie Plec & Co. actually went out of their way to make that character do something horrible.

Case in point - Caroline. Pure sunshine.

She murdered only one person and it was when she was a newbie vamp. By the numbers count Caroline was doing pretty good for TVD. Then she was up on the moral high ground and threw a lot of judgement Damon’s way (well deserved in my opinion). She was extremely anti Delena in Season 4 and was not pleased with Elena’s choices as a vampire. So what did the writers do? They had her kill 12 witches in 4x17. Say goodbye to the moral high ground, Caroline.

That’s the show and you are going to do terrible things if you’re a vampire. Humans like Matt, Jeremy and Bonnie fared better, but each makes morally questionable, if not down right wrong, decisions. Their opinions about vampires and all the murderer was typically correct, but frequently viewed as judgmental by fans.

So what’s my point? Any fan of the love triangle got on board with these relationships with full knowledge the brothers were killers. Just because Stefan was a solid dude when Elena met him didn’t erase the fact he spent the better part of the 1920s ripping people’s heads off. Hell, Damon murdered people while he was dating Elena. Murder is not a deal breaker- either to Elena or Stelena/Delena fans. If Elena was supposed to end up with the most moral person on TVD she should’ve married this blue eyed cupcake.

Stefan (or Damon for that matter) being cruel to Elena didn’t really make me want to peace out on the show or stop shipping their relationship. Just because Elena is the focus of the terrible thing doesn’t suddenly make it more terrible than all the other things Stefan and/or Damon have done.

I’m not going to defend what Stefan did. You are kinder to him than I am because I think it had zip to do with forcing Elena to let him go. Stefan was still on human blood which made him a rage machine. He was pissed at Klaus for destroying his life (rightfully so) and hell bent on revenge.

Do I believe Stefan, with his humanity switch on, would actually kill Elena? No, which is why I kind of yawned my way through the whole driving her off the bridge plan. Klaus was an idiot for buying it, but the only reason he did was because Elena was terrified. Stefan said her fear sold it. The point was to traumatize her, which makes Stefan an enormous dick.

And yet, three episodes later he’s off human blood and Elena is begging him to feel something for her.

This show was ridiculous. Both sides of the love triangle are abusive, co dependent, toxic train wrecks at certain points in the story. Some points last longer than other points, but I’ll side eye any Stelena or Delena fan who argues differently.

Stefan was faaaaar too “heroic” by The Vampire Diaries standards the first two seasons. In order to make this love triangle a real love triangle Stefan had to be a dick with his humanity switch ON. The whole Ripper/no humanity thing gives him an easy pass. And The Vampire Diaries, for better or worse, was based on the love triangle.

No, in order for Elena to really struggle choosing between the two brothers, and not looking like a loony tune for giving Damon a second look while Stefan was literally the vampire equivalent of Clark Kent, they needed Stefan to go to the dark side. This made Damon step up to the plate and he became the hero in Elena’s life. And we’re off to the races with the love triangle, which was the whole point of Season 3 - ELENA’S CHOICE. If I took a shot every time Elena said, “I don’t know how I feel,” I would’ve permanently damaged my liver.

So why did I keep shipping Stelena after that moment?

Because I knew what the show was trying to do. Stefan had to do something as terrible as Damon killing Jeremy to even the playing field.

Do I feel those moments equate? No, but I’m a Stelena fan so that’s not a shock. I own my bias. Bloodaholic Stefan was never going to hurt Elena (no not even turn her into a vampire) whereas Damon literally killed Jeremy.

I also kept shipping them because I knew this was the low point. I knew good Stefan would start to come back after this. And Stefan, when he’s not ripping heads off, has his humanity switch on, and his blood addiction under control, is one of the best people on that show. Selfless, heroic, warm, compassionate, protective and giving. He’s devoted to Elena and loves her deeply, but he also loves her friends and family. Does Stefan put those people first all the time like Elena wanted him to? No, but he prioritized them a hell of a lot more than Damon.

I was willing to forgive Stefan for Wickery Bridge because I knew Stefan would feel immense guilt once the haze of revenge lifted and he allowed the full weight of all the things he did hit him. Stefan would punish himself more than I ever could and do everything in his power to make amends because that’s who he is.

This is the same reason Elena chose Stefan at the end of Season 3. Did he “earn” his redemption by 3x22? No, the dude had been acting good for a total of nine episodes. Well, techinically five if we’re being strict about what constitutes “Good Stefan.” Elena didn’t choose Stefan because of the person he was during Season 3. She chose Stefan because of the man he had been in Season 1 and Season 2. That’s the man she loved and she knew that man had come back.

But if we’re really being fair - Damon probably deserved to be chosen more than Stefan just based on their behavior in Season 3. Same rules apply for Season 4. Stefan deserved to be chosen more than Damon then.

***Side note. One thing TVD did extremely well was parallels. I loved that she told Stefan on the phone that she loved him in 3x01 and to hold on to that. Then told Damon on the phone that she is choosing Stefan in 3x22.

(This is also why Elena told Damon she loved him for the first time over the phone. It was to make up for the time she dumped him over the phone and left him for dead. See? They all did crappy stuff to each other CONSTANTLY).

The difference between the brothers is not good and bad. Stefan isn’t entirely good just like Damon isn’t entirely bad. The difference between the two brothers is one fights the good in him while the other fights the bad. Neither are successful in their battles all the time. Stefan did terrible things, with his humanity on, and Damon could be wonderfully heroic and sweet.

But Damon pushed against that goodness A LOT. Whereas Stefan pushed against his badness A LOT. I’m not into the bad boys or the anti heroes. I like darkness in my fictional men, but I enjoy watching them fight it and not relish it.

But I don’t glean any morality from The Vampire Diaries. It was a fantasy show. It’s crap I watched for fun and had pointless, but entertaining, ship debates with strangers on the Internet. Nor do I apply my real world principles to my shipping preferences. I am married to the kindest, gentlest, most moral man I know. I like the goody guys with NO darkness in real life. I would never allow my kid to date a Stefan or Angel or hell not even Oliver Queen in real life. Are you nuts???? THEY MURDERED PEOPLE.

But in my fantasy world, yes I am extremely forgiving. Not unlike Elena Gilbert, Buffy Summers and Felicity Smoak. Oliver Queen is as squeaky clean as I get. It’s a little easier I think with Angel (versus Stefan) because he only did horrible things after he lost his soul, which was not his fault.

It’s really two personas. I love Angel, but I hated Angelus. I never wanted Buffy to hook up with Angelus.

Does that erase his responsibility over Jenny Calendar?

Nope. But simply because I knew Jenny Calendar as a viewer, and Angel was hurting people Buffy loved, doesn’t suddenly make that murder worse than all the others Angelus killed. Just because Buffy didn’t know those people, and they died hundreds of years ago, doesn’t make their lives any less valuable. But I got on board with Buffy dating Angel knowing all that before he lost his soul, so the morality factor didn’t really change after he got his soul back. Make sense?

It’s similar with Stefan. Stefan and The Ripper are two personas, but TVD liked to muddy the water a little more than Whedon with the humanity switch - a grey area. But in general I divide his character into two selves.

Now, in real life if I was on a jury these guys would be serving 25 to life. But this is fantasy. Vampires don’t really exist. Teenage girls don’t date men over 110 years old. It’s illegal.

Characters like Stefan and Angel are an allegory. They represent the struggle between good and evil that live within all of us. The writers use vampirism to represent our sinful nature. The human struggle to be good and battle against our (hopefully) lower scale darkness/sins is the only real moral lesson I apply. That and always put Paul Wesley in a white tank top.

So, that’s how I look at that scene Nonnie. As I said before it is completely fine for that to be the moment you stopped shipping Stelena. I never stopped shipping Stelena and I never will, which is why they are one of my OTPs. They are a tragic story, but I will always love them. Despite all of Stefan’s terrible mistakes, I will always believe he was the best choice Elena ever made.

#stelena #stelena meta #stefan salvatore #elena gilbert #stefan and elena #anti damon #anti delena #anti damon salvatore #angel #buffy the vampire slayer #btvs meta #asks #Anonymous

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5sosbitchfest · 4 years

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What is you honest opinion on fanfiction? Do you think that some fans cross lines that shouldn't be crossed?

Okay so...here’s my whole thought process on fanfiction:

I love fanfiction. I think it’s a really great creative outlet for people, especially those who ship certain ships that aren’t canon. I think it’s a great way for people to further explore a world and characters they love. Hell, some fanfic I’ve read throughout my many years in fandom has been better than the actual book or tv series being written about. Sometimes it’s just that much more pleasurable to read because you get what the canon didn’t give you. I will literally never forgive Julie Plec for denying me Klaroline in canon but at least I have fanfic to soothe that pain.

However...

When it comes to writing fanfiction about real people (i.e. bands, actors, etc) I think there is a certain amount of responsibility that the writer needs to have. People have to understand that the people you’re writing about aren’t fictional characters; they’re real people. Real people that could find it honestly uncomfortable knowing there are stories being written about them and their bandmates that are sexually explicit. Do I think that people ought to stop writing RPF? No, of course not. Write what you want...but keep it between you and the fandom. Don’t tag the people you’re writing about on Twitter or Insta. Don’t tag their bandmates, associates, friends, etc. It’s not appropriate.

You can still write RPF and have fun with it and people can read and enjoy it, but it’s just something that ought to be kept within the fandom and not brought to the attention of the people themselves. And that goes for RPF about them and their bandmates, them and their respective RL partners, etc. Just...some fandom things ought to remain just that...fandom things.

Things like After should have never in a million years have been published, regardless of changing the names. The author is damn lucky that Harry Styles is a pretty chill guy and proceeds to ignore it and her instead of causing her hell. He’d have been well within his right to do so.

In conclusion, if you want to write RPF then go for it! Live your best life! Just keep in mind that it’s still something controversial and keep it within the fandom.

#link #fan ficcy stuff #Anonymous

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damonisbae · 4 years

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So I'm here to rant about Vampire Diaries season 5 episode 13.

Stefan is a colossal piece of shit. Threatened to kill Enzo because him and Damon are having some fun. Damon hunting down and killing Dr. Wes Maxfield is fun and Stefan trying to ruin their fun was fucked up!

Season 5 episode 20

keeping it a secret that Stefan killed Enzo five stars Stefan and Elena for going behind Damon's back and not telling him the truth.

Season 6 episode 2

Elena having Alaric compel her memories of Damon away because she couldn't handle it is really pathetic if Katherine was still alive she would be laughing in her face at how pathetic she is.

Season 6 episode 4

Oh my gosh Stefan is so pathetic told in flash backs Damon is telling Bonnie and Kai about the worst day of his life. In doing so the year is 1994 and he comes back to Mystic Falls to go straight and convince Stefan to come with him on the road. But goodie goodie Stefan won't do that he just can't drink human blood he's vegan now and had a good life ( Ha don't make me laugh) Stefan really is the worst vampire to ever walk the earth. Vampires feed on humans what part of that does Stefan not understand. Like I said he fucking pathetic! These are Damon's exact words and I quote " find feed and erase"

Stefan really should take his older brothers advice on what it's like to be a real vampire instead of a vegetarian vegan piece of shit who clearly doesn't know how to have fun!

Season 6 episode 6

Elena compelling her memories away is by far the stupidest decision. It just goes to show you how weak she really is.

People in the anti Damon tag and anti Delena a tag always bring up this quote that Damon says.

" I don't want her to be happy oh I want her to be miserable just like I am".

Damon didn't actually mean that. He was frustrated that Alaric is a human again in Canton compel Elena's memories. People who hate Damon bring this up all the time but Damon didn't actually mean that he was just frustrated and angry

My Caroline Forbes list of why she's a shity character just keeps growing. Looks Stefan in the face and tells him that after all this she doesn't want to be his friend anymore what is selfish bitch!

Season 6 episode 7

Elena trying to date human trash aka Liam instead of Damon Hahahahaha it cracks me up everytime.

So having Kai in the last few episodes have been quite interesting because so many fan in the fandom believe he was this truly fabulous character that Julie plec wasted. But he's done far worse things than Damon ever did. Murdered his while family being one of them. He's a horrible person who deserves everything that he got.

Matt wtf is wrong with you? Why did he feel sorry for Tripp when he died? Okay sure feel sorry for the guys that's killed who know how many vampires just for shits and giggles. I've never once judged Matt for anything but this one moment made no sense to me!

Where to go Caroline for blaming Stefan for ruining your friendship with him. You are the one who ruined it not Stefan. He's given you every chance to forgive him and you've thrown it back in his face. Once again being a selfish bitch.

I'm putting this in the anti tags for discussion

#team damon #the vampire diaries #anti stefan #vampire Diaries fandom #antidelena #anti damon #anti delena #tvd fandom #tvd forever #anti tvd #anti caroline forbes

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