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emsylcatac · 10 months

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Part of me will always mourn that we didn't get to see Chat Noir fighting Monarch, his father, in the finale battle. That's always gonna be nagging in the back of my mind.

At the same time, it was a little predictable, and what the writers chose to do instead makes a lot of sense when you think about it, and is maybe more satisfying for Adrien's arc regarding his relationship to his father than if he'd had to fight Monarch knowing it's Gabriel. (Not talking about the whole "he still doesn't know his father was Monarch" bit, I'm strictly talking about the fights here - that one's another topic entirely)

I say "predictable", because of what happened in "Representation". Adrien got here his moment to fight his father, as a seemingly akuma victim, and this on his own without Ladybug.

With this set-up we have here: Adrien confronting and fighting his father as in Gabriel Agreste, and Marinette confronting and fighting her nemesis as in Monarch. That's always what we envisioned as the finale fight against Monarch would be: Adrien vs his abusive father and Ladybug vs her enemy. It just didn't happen in the same fight, so both could separately have their moment and their thing to say.

I think in the end it's significantly more important that Adrien got to fight Gabriel Agreste as Psycauchemardeur focusing solely on him as his father, than have him fight Gabriel Agreste knowing it's Monarch. Because everything that happened in Representation, everything Adrien told his father as Chat Noir and everything Adrien was angry about regarding his father's behaviour with him, that all comes down to how Gabriel has acted as a father to him independently of him being a city terrorist.

If Adrien had had the realisation that his father's actions were terrible through the discovery that he was, on top of an abuser, a supervillain, then the whole "terrorising innocents" would have overshadowed in Adrien's anger all that Gabriel did to him personally as an abuser & shitty parental figure.

What I mean is that Adrien realising his father is shitty independently of knowing he's a terrorist and confronting him about it in a fight is part of his arc and is more impactful than Adrien confronting his father for his supervillain acts. He didn't realise Gabriel was a terrible person because he was a supervillain, but because he understood he was an abusive father and that's amazing

And that's why he got his moment in Representation while Marinette had hers in the finale - Gabriel is a shitty person both as a father and by being a magical terrorist. Adrien confronted him about the "shitty father" bit, and Marinette about the "magical terrorist bit", and both these things make sense with their respective character arcs & respective relationships to Gabriel

#i already see ppl coming to me with 'but now he thinks he's a hero' and again:#this analysis isn't about that part #that part is something else that might be adressed later by the show #i'm talking purely about the finale fights here & why i think the writers went with these instead of a ladynoir vs monarch fight #ml analysis #ml spoilers #recreation #recreation spoilers #ml s5 finale #s5 finale spoilers #s5 finale #ml s5 finale spoilers

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camelots-rose · 10 months

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The fact Gabriel a child abuser, that took part in a murder(Shanghai special), almost murdered an entire family small children included(Senti bubbler), threatened to start World War 3 (new york) and has been terrorizing Paris for over a year not only gets hailed as a hero but gets his crimes buried by Ladybug meanwhile Chloe a child that has done far less than him not only gets treated like the devil incarnated but is sent off to live with her abuser as a 'just' punishment is quite frankly disturbing

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generalluxun · 10 months

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Andre/Gabriel

Can we all at least agree that:

Giving Andre his 'It's all my daughter/wife's fault' excuse for his abuses then giving him a happy ending

Then

Giving Gabriel his 'I did it for my family!' excuse for his abuses then giving him a happy ending

Back to back

is REALLY NOT A GOOD LOOK

Honestly, Rich white dudes who abuse their power don't need anyone sticking up for them. They got all the power.

#miraculous ladybug #s5 finale spoilers

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buggachat · 10 months

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best. dad. ever.

bonus:

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #ml #gabriel agreste #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #marinette dupain-cheng #adrienette #adrinette #nathalie sancoeur #my art #ml spoilers #ml s5 spoilers #ml s5 finale spoilers #miraculous ladybug spoilers #ml re-creation #re-creation spoilers #ml recreation #recreation spoilers

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teawithbrioche · 7 months

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not so happy after that new bsd episode. so many victories but at what cost

#S5 FINALE SPOILERS #fyolai nation we fucking lost #i admit i wasnt pauing THAT much attention bc i was watching it with a friend #but if i rewatch it ill probablu cry alot

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moonieratty · 10 months

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#chat noir #ml s5 finale spoilers #ml social media au

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the-chat-who-got-the-cream · 10 months

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i was gonna tack this on at this end of the last post but thought it deserves it’s own post 💀 because AINT NO WAY ADRIEN DOESNT QUESTION THIS MAN ASNJDILHASJKLE

Bonus:

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sleepysebris · 7 months

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the two smartest people in the show get together, you cant not expect them to uncover every single secret

This is for @halfahelix!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!💖✨ (I was your anarchist gang gift exchange gifter !!) It was really fun trying to figure out how to squeeze sentitwins, feligami, and ladrien into one comic together lmao I KIND OF DID IT, I THINK? enjoy :3

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sidsinning · 10 months

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Adrien got 2 healthy loving moms now instead of 1 abusive dad tht is wild

good for him

#ml #mlb #miraculous ladybug #ml re creation #ml recreation #ml s5 finale #ml s5 spoilers #ml spoilers #emilie agreste #nathalie sancoeur #sidrabbles

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schsas · 10 months

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who?🤨🤨🤨🤨

#might delete later #miraculous ladybug #my art #miraculous spoilers #ml season 5 spoilers #miraculous season 5 #ml recreation #recreation spoilers #lila rossi #ladybug #chat noir #hawkmoth #miraculous s5 finale #ml season 5 finale

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belowthesurface · 10 months

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my honest reaction

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous lb #miraculous fanart #felix fathom #felix graham de vanily #adrien agreste #ml spoilers #ml conformation #ml recreation #ml the last day #ml s5 finale #ml season 5 finale

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emsylcatac · 10 months

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mood after the finale

#edit: literally & figuratively #I'm sorry jfhsgbdnkjdnkfj #I'm still hoping this is like. an alternate universe or something cause pleeeaaase wtf #ml spoilers #s5 finale #s5 finale spoilers #recreation #recreation spoilers #i'm just. whatever

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teadrawstuff · 10 months

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noooooo marinette, your chat noir double fudge cataclysmic waffle sundae is melting :((

#miraculous ladybug #my art #adrien agreste #chat noir #adrienette #marinette dupain cheng #fanart #ml spoilers #miraculous les aventures de ladybug et chat noir #ml #mlb s5 spoilers #mlb s5 finale

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generalluxun · 10 months

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I've got a feeling that Gabriel successfully making his wish will be the number one thing fanfics will ignore about canon (at least I hope), even if that person we see in the finale is indeed Amelie.

I mean, fanfics ignore looooots of canon as it is. Basically every successful adrienette or Ladynoir fic ignores everything the show canonically tells us about those involved.

And I say: Good.

Fandom takes are infinitely more interesting.

#ask #S5 finale spoilers #adrienette #ladynoir

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buggachat · 10 months

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