#This is not fandom-specific I have just Seen Too Much

[longing-for-rain]

you know what i noticed about kataang shippers is that, they have made multiple blogs (even titled in the url) fully dedicated to bashing zutara. like whole blogs full of nothing but hating zutara and everyone who ships it.

i don't see the reverse. yes, there are zutara blogs with lots of aang/kataang critical posts. but these blogs also have content that's focused on zutara (posting about the ship you actually do like! imagine that!) and most are content creators as well. i can't think of any blogs that are purely anti-kataang or even mostly anti-kataang.

idk to me it just seems like zutara shippers are better about staying in our lane and enjoying what we like instead of devoting *that* much energy to hating ✌️

Oh definitely, I think in the past few years I’ve seen two blogs called something along the lines of “Zutara isn’t canon” and post nothing but angry anons whining about people shipping Zutara. And of course, the “fandom police” guy who is very obviously a right winger poorly applying social justice concepts in an attempt to win ship discourse, and who thinks anything non-canon is stupid.

It’s funny because how do you miss the point of fandom this badly? It’s transformative. There are only so many ways to tell the exact same story. There is a reason why it’s very common for non-canon ships to be more popular among fans than canon. It taps into the creative aspect that so many of us enjoy.

And for Zutara specifically, I’m actually glad it isn’t canon. I like that it’s open-ended and that I’m free to write it however I want, because to be completely honest, I think the creators would have completely botched it if it was canon. I mean, I actually like Maiko quite a bit too but I don’t like how rushed their ending felt. I don’t like how it felt like Mai reappeared to be Zuko’s prize. And given the straight up creepy things I’ve heard the creators say about Zutara over the years, I have no doubt they would have made me hate it via poor writing.

Plus you’re right, at the end of the day, fandom is about enjoying what you want to enjoy. Making entire blogs dedicated to telling people they’re stupid because they don’t adhere to canon as if it’s a religious doctrine doesn’t seem like you’re enjoying yourself too much. Sure, I’ve made posts critical of tropes, characters, relationships, etc. that I don’t like, but ultimately I spend my energy on what I actually do like.

#anti kataang #zutara #atla #avatar the last airbender #ask #anon #fandom salt

[rahabs]

I'm forcefully removing these historical characters from your grasp until you learn to distinguish fictional representations of historical figures in a television show from the real historical figures.

#This is not fandom-specific I have just Seen Too Much #Like I really don't care if people have their zanny headcanons #Do whatever you want honestly say he had twelve arms and liked cross-dressing just don't start claiming it's 'real history' #Real problem with people e.g. projecting their own gender stuff onto real historical figures because of a TV show and then refusing to like #Acknowledge that the fictional portrayal of that character is not necessarily accurate or reflective of who they really were. #And again this isn't fandom specific I see it far too often in any fandom based around historical media #People getting unhealthily attached and projecting and refusing to separate fiction from non-fiction etc #This happens in non-historical fandoms too but in fandoms of historical media you just get that #Extra ick layer of people with zero degrees in the subject insisting their headcanons are now Real History and taking things out of context #Acting like they're authorities. #You're not: you're an amateur armchair enthusiast. And there's nothing wrong with that! #But let's not be a certain Historical Fiction Author for a Certain Time and go around saying you're historians because you wrote a fanfic #Because you're not. #You love history and that's wonderful! #That doesn't make you an authority or a historian. #text #misc

[shorthaltsjester]

honestly as someone who has been in various fandoms for a long time now and who also watched campaigns 1 and 2 without really getting into cr fandom it isn’t Shocking but it is annoying how often people will look at the stories that cr tells and make absolute claims about the goodness of characters (goodness here meaning Moral goodness, not I Like This character and think it’s well made goodness, which is a separate post entirely). particularly regarding the gods and pc parents. and honestly like, typically in fandom i get annoyed by people bending over backwards to woobify characters who are active in their choice to be unkind and generally horrible but in the cr fandom it’s tended to be the opposite where like. a character is just. a human being (in the sense of being Average not in the sense of Fantasy Races) and huge swaths of the fandom act like that’s the most unforgivable thing someone can be. and maybe it is, but one of the most powerful things about fiction is that it tends to encourage people to expand their empathy and exercise their ability to forgive. because fictional characters, no matter how much people like to project onto them, tend not to cause anyone harm, so it’s easier to learn how to forgive and accept things you don’t understand without also villainizing them.

this is mostly prompted by the recent 4sd and the fact that matt’s response to what’s up with the dawnfather was a very insistent “He’s not bad!” and also seeing the online reaction to the mention that the matron would punish vax for saving keyleth that has taken the as usual completely bonkers tune that the raven queen (Who When Met With A Brother Asking A God To Kill Him In Favour Of His Sister, Gave Him A Job, and Later Extended His Natural Life To Help Protect The World And Have More Time With His Family And Allowed Him To Visit His Sister On Her Wedding Day) is a horrible evil abusive bitch of a god. like. can we grow up? can we understand the world and fiction that represents the multitudes of experiences found in it in shades of grey? is that too much to ask (i know it is).

but also specifically the like Extremely Adamant way that both matt and laura were like no no no no relvin isn’t Horirble he’s average. he’s not good he’s just. he’s A father, not a good or bad one. and on the surface it’s hilarious that they’re both so like. enthused to point out that he’s Average because typically when people respond to a claim of a characters badness with the level of immediacy they both did it’s a rebuttal of “no, this character is good actually.” but it was just to affirm that relvin did harm imogen, but not because there’s some aspect of his character that is inherently cruel or especially Bad. and like. yeah actually. yeah you should react like that to a claim that this average person who Has hurt someone, the way that nearly every single person has hurt someone in a way they cannot repair, with immediacy to say this person is a Person and thus imperfect and capable of great harm, but that isn’t some all encompassing judgment on their morality or capability to also do good or be fine.

anyway this is kinda just a rant post but also is just me saying i’m very grateful that when surrounded by a fandom that tends to paint characters as Good or Bad and even while using a game that can encourage that with its alignment system, cr has always told stories that see goodness as a persistent choice that might sometimes falter and that can be chosen even after a lifetime of Badness. i can’t remember exactly what the quote was so forgive me if it’s incorrect but when jester is talking to caleb after he claims he’s not a very good person and she says “good people do bad things sometimes. even bad people do good things.” that’s it! that’s one of the most consistent themes across campaigns. and yet.

#on fandom #cr tag #i just. maybe it’s the philosophy major in me but. good grief the shit some of y’all say about morality and then turn around and ignore #what you’ve just said. good grief #lately it’s specifically been the people who support liliana (i too love evil women) and act like she tripped and fell into her current #position. and then turn around and call relvin an abusive devil #like. sorry which one has been manipulating imogen. which one abonded her? #that’s besides the point. my point is. the words good and bad are meaningless. #the good placeism. is this character trying to be better today than they were yesterday #this is the imogen temult problem actually. like yes she Chooses to be good. but that is only a choice because we have Seen her be selfish #and cruel and manipulative. if i had to choose to call imogen good or bad i’d of course choose good. but that undermines so much of #what makes her ‘goodness’ actually compelling. #honestly same with fjord. like his character as a charismatic paladin who fights for Good™ is comtextualised by having seen his journey #like. otherwise he’d be boring. #like. if any cr main character was just Good or just Bad. i promise it would not be as popular as it is #critical role

[soullessjack]

this isnt rlly a serious post more so than a thought I need to verbalize but like. there’s an INSANE difference between the fandom being like “hey what if jack was actually his age and got to be a little normal” vs y’all treating a grown ass man like he has to cover his ears when someone swears or sleep with a nightlight on because he’s afraid of the dark, and throwing the P word around to anyone who thinks he’s attractive. one of these things is not like the other.

#there’s a layer here about giving jack the childhood he specifically chose not to have #and ignoring his other choices because that’s just. idk a running theme with any character who struggles to have autonomy #but whatever idk #genuinely i think the past year or so that I’ve spent talking about this has burnt me out #either that or I’m just too fixated on VB to really care too much #like obviously I still care about it and wish more was done to help but it’s not really a warpath for me to walk currently #just. #I’m just tired dawg #it’s like talking to a deaf brick wall #please just do some research into infantilization I cannot keep having a one sided conversation with people who don’t care #spn #jack kline #baby jack #spn fandom #fandom critical #fandom ableism #tfw2.0 #not even just ableism it’s the whole mischaracterization woobified bullshit all over again #and the using baby jack as a prop for everyone else but I digress #jack: *chose not to be a child and hates being seen as one and is more than willing to get violent if he thinks he has to* #y’all for some fucking reason: he’s just a widdle baby he can’t handle the scary movie he needs his daddies to take care of him #I’ve already said all these things before #i am tired. so tired

[kjzx]

I've been thinking a lot about my sexuality these last few years, I'd even say sometimes obsessing to an unhealthy degree, and I think I've come in terms with the fact I almost certainly am bisexual and denying that is pretty lesbophobic and frankly dumb in many ways, and mainly cruel towards myself. Gonna be reading up on internalized biphobia and whatnot

#Turns out men around me just suck #And men that are thirsted over most of the time do too #Alright they don't meet my preferences** #No toxicity here everyone's valid #I have had my reasons to think I'm gay and I don't think I was that 'delusional' (idk a better way to say it) thinking that I am gay #But the more I move forward the more I realize I'm just lying to myself #I don't have to date men or be interested in what most people think is attractive in men to be bisexual and that's alright #I am a little disappointed in the way bisexuals are treated in certain lgbt+ spaces specifically chronically online ones #Is it cringe to admit that the thing that broke the camel's back was a fandom meta post where the author said that people in fandom #can't tolerate bi characters/HCs because the idea of a character having history is repulsive to younger fans that want there to be one and #only love interest. Or smth along these lines. That resonated with me. I have no clue why tho. I don't have much history with anyone myself #Aside from a homoerotic childhood friendship or two (celibacy sweep) #Not just that there were a lot of good points made but yeah. Fun things #I have a feeling I'll continue obsessing over this stuff #Obsession grind never ends babyyy 💯💪 #It does feel nice to admit to things I like without feeling like I have some sort of reverse religious trauma #the center of it being one ultimate queer experience and if you've straighted you're condemned to be seen as a straight by gays #for all eternity #Bisexual #Bi pride #//rambles

[fefairys]

homestuck made this world is interesting for the historical context of what was going on in the SA threads at the time but good lord it would be SO much better if it had a tumblrina perspective… someone who was an enthusiastic fandom goer from the start, as opposed to just two guys who used to think fandom is cringe (and cameron STILL seems to believe fandom is cringe but is trying to be polite about it)

like the tumblr perspective on homestuck is, imo, very important to contextualizing large parts of homestuck as a whole, and they simply don’t have that, and it gets really frustrating as someone who was here for it.

#like specifically them seeing calliope as a mean spirited joke against fandom #when like. tumblr LOVES her. she’s not a MEAN joke she’s a GOOD spirited joke #fandom wayyyy more sees her as a LOVE LETTER to fandom not anything malicious #but they r just like ‘holy shit he is so mean to his fans!!!’ meanwhile the fans are laughing along with the jokes #like. calliope reading into things too much and assigning meaning to nonsense scribbles (penis oujia) #they took that ‘this is so incredibly hostile and mean’ #when i always took that as a playful jab! it’s silly! #yes sometimes fandom reads into things too much! sometimes we ascribe meaning to things that don’t mean anything! it’s pretty funny! #sigh #homestuck #for that in particular it just sucks because #i know there are people who are listening to the podcast while reading hs for the first time #and they won’t know these things #they might assume these guys are right in their assumptions #that these jokes were in bad faith and were taken as hostility #‘calliope is a mean spirited joke’ is something i never thought i would hear lmao #like i never ever would have seen her that way in a million years #but they just IMMEDIATELY decided that

[lady-of-disdain]

I think that every time I see the take “[insert evil character] doesn’t deserve love before they get a redemption arc” or any variation thereof I’m gonna write Killer getting his dick sucked right after murdering someone.

#this take is not specifically exclusive to the undertale fandom or killer sans per say #I’ve simped for a lot of villains and slashers in my day so I’ve seen it pretty often #and I just have to laugh every time I see it because like #this is the big scary murder man fandom my dude? #i’m here for it #if you want to have big scary murder man redemption arcs where they find love AFTER their rehabilitation by all means go for it #but don’t act all high and mighty like this is the only way the character should be enjoyed #mentioned killer specifically because I’ve been seeing a little bit of this in the ut fandom too with th bad sanses #like cool if you want to give them all redemption stories have fun #but no thanks I’ll take my murder boy self insert romance WITH the side of murder thank you very much #and please don’t come at me acting like that makes me a terrible person #it’s all fiction Brenda Nightmare didn’t hurt your family

[bishonenspit]

posting your artwork publically can be so rewarding and so motivating but most of the time it just results in psychological turmoil inflicted on yourself

#like oh my god girl help #im so sad and over my confidence to do with my art being paper thin and fragile but nothing changes no matter how much i like a piece #i hate the idea that artists only draw for interaction bc i definitely do not do that id have to be stupid to with the stuff i draw #but i also hate the idea that artists shouldn't want interaction on their work? like it's a very human emotion to want your work to be seen? #i just wish people liked my stuff more truly. im aware my style is specific and to a particular taste and ik that my work isn't the like #high flawless standard of most traditional art that gets posted. like ik that and like god i wish i had that skill level but i don't!! #i like what i do tho i just wish it felt like a lot of other people did idk maybe that's vain or something. I don't know!! #i wish i did digital art but i hate working digital lol #ppl don't believe me when i say that digital art is preferred over traditional online but i rlly believe it's true #and if your traditional art does well it's at the level of digital art flawlessness #im simultaneously like im too young to be crazy good like other people online but also im too old to be on the path to getting good. yk #i blame it on a small fandom sometimes but that's unfair bc art within small fandoms still does really well #idk i think im just a flop probably but also i think im insecure. schrodinger's online artist crisis #anyways sorry ignore this im just running my mouth don't pity reblog my shit or anything i don't want that #idk what i want but it's not that lmao #i think i want to be better at art and i want people to like my art. which i have like minimal control over. #being an artist is fun until the turmoil sets in

[saline-coelacanth]

Question for other people with next gen aus, do you get people asking you how your same sex couples have biological children or does it only happen to me? Because I feel like any time I post about my Ninjago next gen kids I get people asking me how my bruise kids and oppo kid can exist because they have same sex parents and it's kind of annoying dealing with it all the time

#ninjago #lego ninjago #not specific to ninjago its just the fandom i see it in #like i have not once been asked this with my sonic next gen au #only the ninjago one #and like i get it that people are curious #but it can also sort of come off as rude sometimes #just the way ive seen people word it #like one time i had someone get upset because i explained how nindroids can have organic kids #and they got all upset because 'that's not how genetics work' #like shut up its a lego show why are taking the genetics so seriously??? #also im just trying to have fun why are you making it weird? #sorry for ranting ive had a very unfun day today #and i normally dont like making posts like this cause i care too much about making people feel bad #but no im at my limit today i cant #again i apologize for ranting to much im just very much in a bad mood today

[liquid-geodes]

Hi tumblr why is my dash header upside down against my will just to promote a TV show I have blocked

#even when i have things blacklisted i STILL cant avoid them #thanks staff for forcing s*ranger t*ings directly into my face all the time i hate you #i hate you so much please put it back #i dont have anything against that show because ive never seen it #however the amount of times ive literally been forced to look at it against my will has made my brain do the thing #where it fucking hates something after its been repeated too many times #and if i have to keep looking at this show im literally going to kill a man #its the mental illness for sure doing this but that being said maybe this shouldnt happen #i think maybe i should get to choose what fandoms are being blasted into my eyeballs at any given time #and the fact that i CANT because staff is doing this on purpose acrod the entire website is... not great #i should be allowed to make every single tumblr user look at MY very specific piece of media that not everyone likes too #yknow. since we're just fucking doing that now #god why do so many things trigger these responses in my brain i hate living like this #remember when this happened to me with zelda? even my own favorite things arent immune #anyway this has turned into a tangent but whatever its 4am and this is my blog #get your media away from me i dont want it #also incredibly inconvenient trying to read things when theyre upside down #accessibility loss. the person who already struggles to read words in order has to read upside down text now :( #this website is killing me and the only reason im still here is because of my mutuals fuck literally everything else about tumblr #i hate it here... god do i hate it here

[theultracharmingladynoire]

I can't stop thinking about that post I reblogged earlier about fandom being exhausting..l. I don't know.

#N rambles #I haven't said much about this in here and I considered putting it down on the sideblog but eh. #I miss ml tbh even though my feelings towards the show is complicated now and I am doing better without the fandom and the new episodes #I do like yoi...but I disagree with most of the interpretations of the characters - #-(it doesn't mean mine nor those interpretations are wrong vdjshs I just have a super specific reading) #And the present fandom is pretty much dormant compared to the ml one obviously #And my own interpretations of yoi are also changing fast #Like now I've accepted that Yuuri winning gold would've been much more satisfying #(though I don't feel...angry/disappointed about it??? It's more like 'oh I wish that had happened') #but ehhh #yoi is like...a show I would rewatch at my own time and not something I want to participate in the fandom for #I really do wish I hadn't giffed it at times #especially seeing some of the...takes I've seen there👍 #but then I also want to talk about it and discuss and engage with people about it too😭😭😭 I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE #idk thoughts

[camptw1nk]

I log into my other blogs multiple times every day and yet. Nothing Happens on them

#if we want to get ultra specific its because i want to revamp my multi but i refuse to work on it bc im scared of losing all my mutuals 🤪 #and i Know thats not likely but i will lose a lot it happens every time i move blogs and i move too often i know i do #i havent moved that blog in like 4 months? at least but i. i have made new blogs and i think people are. tired of it #ive never done anything on ali bc im scared people will see how i write her as Wrong not the canon divergence but like. How /I/ Write Her #like i havent seen so much of pll and im scared to write mean characters bc in the past ive faced a lot of people who. #cant really separate mean muse and nice mun and just kinda assume im mean #and its really hard to write a muse like ali without people who know and understand them #but i cant write w people who know and understand her bc a) i dont even know and understand her and #b) i don't feel like i can enter the fandom bc of how much of pll i havent seen #i am in a constant state of 🧍‍♂️ and it doesnt matter who i have muse for bc Ultimately kurt is the one i end up on #bc hes easy and people have come to know him and so people are actually interested and excited here #and i think people are still running on the hype of him on a solo blog rather than the multi so its all exciting #i wanted to move jason to a solo for the same reason just hoping people would. care #but uh. i think i just need to lower my muse count and find more people who will interact with whoever i write instead of trying to please #people who only have interest in one person #idk this became a rant i didnt mean it to long story short im everywhere always i just don't have motivation

[bumbleblurr]

oh no I'm out of b1urr posts to spam rb and torment my followers on main with

#well Actually maybe if i looked through some old blogs i could find stuff but i. dont want to #the psychic damage i get whenever i have to look through them and see shit tier b1urr content including #1) b1urr being characterized as ''feminine'' so that he fits in the role as the ''girl'' #(often done specifically for sh0ckb1urr but ive seen it for other ships too) #2) b1urr literally being abused and this is treated as cute or romantic #3) b1urr being extra flirtatious and/or mean as a way to overcompensate #for the popular depiction of sh0ckb1urr that caused the previous problem listed #4) general misunderstanding of his character (making him a social butterfly and stuff like that) #5) general objectifying of b1urr (this tiea heavily with the first issue #and i dont even want to unpack the Mess that is in terms of how feminity is presented as well as gay ppl in weird gay fandom shipping bs #bc this is NOT an exclusive problem to fanon b1urr content but he's unfortunately a great example of it) #and its like. Oh Boy is it Hard to find b1urr content that doesnt fall into any of those descriptions #its just. pounding my head against the wall #this is why i dont look through the tags as much these days 💔 #i just get met with disappointment bc this is #to my detriment #the standard depiction of b1urr in this fandom :////// #anyway this was just sparked by seeing b1urr buttcheeks for the thousandth time. it broke me #maybe this might inspire me to make blurr content again. spite and desperation #🐝 could you repeat the last part? 🟦

[aeide-thea]

seeing multiple ends of a discourse football on my dash, reblogged by good well-intentioned people who i respect and think highly of and whose values i'm pretty sure have a great deal of overlap, and just thinking abt a post i saw recently that i'm p sure is still wending its way thru my queue, abt tumblr/socmed discussions as border skirmishes intended to underscore division, rather than as consensus-building...

#this is not the discourse football in question but i'm also thinking again abt the yennefer discourse in witcher fandom #where like. there ended up being this really binary hardcore divide #between yennefer stans and ppl who had any reservations abt her #and if you belonged to the latter group you often got told it was Definitely You Being Racist #which just. then and now struck me as a much less helpful line of discussion #than saying something like 'it's rough to be someone who cares about/identifies with women of color in this (read: every) fandom... #...bc they get written off for being less than perfectly pleasant and compliant much more quickly than white male characters do' #'and while no one has to love yennefer‚ and there are reasons to find fault with her other than racism... #...it sucks that it's impossible to be a fan of hers and seek out content related to her without seeing people bashing her over and over' #'and maybe we as a fandom could brainstorm about how to create an environment that rubs a little less salt in people's wounds' #'because you don't have to be irredeemably racist to be perpetuating patterns that people have understandably been sensitized to' #'and presumably we'd all like to avoid wounding our fellow fans in those ways‚ rather than writing them off as oversensitive?' #like. that's a long-winded set of tags & i don't mean to‚ like‚ retroactively tone-police people who got too upset to frame things carefully #but i just do think like. things don't have to be Inarguably Inherently Bad to wound people who've seen similar patterns before #and ultimately it's worth saying‚ look‚ this feels different to me but i value you and your presence in my community and i want to listen #rather than being like 'i know i don't mean this the way you're saying i mean it‚ so i'm going to write you off as absurd & over-aggressive' #if you're serious abt building relationships and coalitions you have to actually hear people out about their perspective #and not just say 'your stance sounds ridiculous to me from my perspective‚ which i refuse to step outside of' #anyway these tags make this sound as though this is just abt Fandom which i don't actually think it is at all #just that that was an issue i could raise without getting into the specifics of the current football #but like. ultimately this is about valuing and respecting other people and being willing to hear them out and enter into their perspective #which is frankly fucking hard and i've failed at it plenty of times myself! #theory #interpersonal #also i guess #Fannish Ethical Concerns #given the tag spiral

[pa-pa-plasma]

zelda blasted moldugas in the gerudo assault scene, it was a group effort between her sonia and rauru. you can see the light coming from her hand. they just channeled it through rauru bc he was/is the chosen hero from that era

I saw that as them just giving him the power to preform such a massive attack rather than Zelda herself blasting them (probably supplied by the sage stone thing which i cant remember the name of). I'd have to rewatch the scene to check (the only one I rewatched was the one where Fi's theme played) but if she seems surprised I take it as more of a "oh shit i/we have that much power??" rather than a "holy shit my attack personally killed all those moldugas" kinda thing. it was Rauru's attack, Sonia & Zelda just supplied an extra power source.

#also when does it say Rauru is a chosen hero #Rauru is just. Rauru. he's just a guy. Link specifically is the chosen hero. he was chosen by Hylia. like. specifically #it isn't just any random guy who fights Ganon. it's Link. like. specifically. #if it was anyone who fought Ganondorf then Zelda would be the chosen hero. & the sages. & everyone & their mother & dog & goldfish #okay as much as i love TotK all i've seen in the fandom so far is Zelink shippers being weirdly rude & people making up information #also TotK fucks up the timeline so badly it makes me sooo mad #TotK has done irreversible damage to the LoZ timeline man #if Ganondorf has been sealed under Hyrule castle since before Minish Cap how the fuck did he reincarnate in OoT #who the fuck is the OoT Ganondorf? which btw is in 3 other games #that specific Ganondorf is in THREE OTHER GAMES! WHO IS THAT IF GANONDORF IS SEALED UNDER HYRULE CASTLE #as a fan of Skyward Sword too this is just. what the fuck. what the actual fuck #if i think about it for too long i start foaming at the mouth & growling & shit #only thing i can think of is this is an entirely new timeline #or the team just honestly doesn't give a shit & is just making games man #btw constructs/robots that are fuelled by magic blue power have existed since before Hyrule was created #they're in Skyward Sword. but their creators have vanished (presumably the Sheikah &/or the Skyloft people) #there's so much information & although a lot of it matches up so much of it conflicts with known accepted information #also people have different interpretations of the shit happening #i could say that actually Zelda wasn't a dragon. she just switched places with one. she was just possessed by one. you can't prove me wrong #it's the same shit with saying ''this facial expression means this thing specifically & i will die on this hill'' #brooo stoppp--assuming everything in this series makes perfect sense & can be proven without a shadow of a doubt makes you look stupid

[griffonsgrove]

omg hello!! I saw you post those vox headcanons and wow I was literally kicking my feet and giggling LOL. I also saw you take requests right now! (at least that’s what it said in your rules) and I wanted to request something : D

could I request general alastor headcanons with a GN! Reader please ? :D

Thank you!

General Dating Headcanons | Alastor

a/n: Of course my dear!! I love how Alastor is portrayed in the series, he’s easily one of my favorite characters! I’ve been wanting to do these for quite a bit, so thank you for the request!

Fandom: Hazbin Hotel

Wordcount: 1991

Cw: Hazbin Spoilers, minor violence, mentions of death, murder

(PLATONIC):

Ah so you managed to capture the attention of the infamous Radio Demon? You should be honored he even considers you worth his time! Not most demons have that luxury, they never live long enough to see.

Al strikes me as the kind of guy who knows everyone, he’s very observant and has eyes everywhere (his shadow friends extend throughout the entirety of the pride ring). He’s got connections in just about anything. He’s bound to have at least seen you once.

That being said, he views other sinners as inferior to him, if you don't have any power, he doesn't really see you as much of a threat (let’s be honest even if you did, he still wouldn't feel threatened)

He’s quite intrigued when he sees a frail little thing like you walk through the hotel doors. You're here on your own free will, seeking redemption? Oh, this will be quite entertaining.

You’re well aware of who he is, having been in hell for quite some time, even before his 7 yearlong disappearance, you knew to be wary in his presence.

It often left you being timid or skittish around him at first.

The deer demon had a knack for popping up at the most inconvenient of times, out of nowhere it seems (perks of being able to shadow travel). He would scare the daylights out of you nearly every time. Whether it was intentional or not, it always got a good laugh out of him.

And that smile…He was always smiling, you can't ever recall a moment where he wasn't, not even a falter. It's definitely an intimidation tactic you think. After all, you're never fully dressed without one!~

Despite this, he’s a charmer. He has this flare about him that oozes confidence whenever he speaks with you, to anyone really. He’s able to talk his way into and out of anything. One of the many perks of being a showman. Alastor is witty, charming and entertaining to say the least. Life is never dull with him around.

And if you happen to be from the same time period?? It’ll only want him to be around you even more! Finally, someone he can relate to in this cesspool.

This man is quite the chatterbox. He looooves to reminisce about the good ol’ days, always talking about how things were in his radio days. He could talk for literal hours and not break a sweat. You’ll often have to politely interject when he rambles on for too long, not that he minds.

Did I mention he can cook too?? Really well, surprisingly. He claims he learned from his dearest mother. He had to put a name to her famous Jambalaya recipe! When you tried it for the first time your socks were nearly blown right off from how much cayenne pepper he put into it. He likes a little spice.

He's!! Always!! Humming!! The man loves to sing, he often finds himself absentmindedly humming old tunes from the 20’s as he goes about his day. Whether he’s out for a stroll, enjoying a nice cup of tea, or running around the hotel, he’s humming.

This has been stated before, but Alastor is not big on physical touch from others unless he's the one initiating it. There have been many times where he’s pulled you into a little dance or twirl while he explains something. It never fails to surprise you each time.

He’ll often use his microphone staff to push or touch something, more specifically someone. He doesn't like to touch sinners that often, God knows where they’ve been. You’ve seen him whack Angel upside the head with it before, the spider tried getting a little too close for comfort. But for you he’ll make an exception.

Very well groomed!! He puts a lot of effort into his appearance, and cares about how he projects himself to the public eye. His hair is always neatly styled to perfection, shoes shined, and is always dressed to the nines. I mean did you see how mad he got when Pentious ripped a part of his coat off?

As the two of you begin to spend some more time together, you find yourself often having little meetups, the both of you would chat, share a cup of tea and just enjoy each other’s company. He liked to sit on the patio, he had a little table, and everything set up for you two.

Alastor makes sure to keep an eye on you regularly. He may have his shadow sneak around and stalk you while you're out. He’ll use the excuse that ‘Hell is a dangerous place!’, He can't have some low-life sinner trying to harm you, that would make him a terrible friend!

Undeniably has a soft spot for you that he’ll never admit aloud, he genuinely enjoys your company and likes having someone around that will humor him and listen to his stories. Grandpa.

Overall, Al is quite a good friend to have, you feel like you can confide in him at any point, he’s surprisingly a wonderful listener. The more time you spend together only strengthens your little friendship. Even to the point where you both will grow to have a mutual respect for each other. He initially scared you at first, given his reputation, but underneath all the ruthless chaos is a true gentleman.

(ROMANTIC):

My man is sooo conflicted at first, He’ll spend hours in his den thinking about his feelings. (We’ve all seen the inside of his room, literally half of it is a swamp). The scenery can only soothe him so much as he contemplates on what to do.

This is probably where you will begin to less and less of him for a time being as he works out his inner turmoil.

But, once he finally comes to terms with these undeniable feelings, he decides to confront you privately, away from any prying eyes. Ahem Angel…

Very old-fashioned, this is where he will properly ask to court you. 

You’ll never know this but he was actually kind of nervous, he was worried you’d reject his offer, but imagine to his surprise when you said yes!! He kind of felt giddy.

Congratulations! You now have a cannibalistic deer overlord as your boyfriend

He’s such a gentleman, I literally cannot say it enough, the man was raised right and he respects you! 

You literally never have to open a door with him around. He holds your chair out for you, always walks on the outer side of the sidewalk, pays for every meal and is constantly giving you compliments left and right. And they say chivalry is dead.

Alastor loves to gift flowers to you. Every few weeks or so he’ll give you a new bouquet. They're different each time, some have a meaning while others he simply thought you’d enjoy. You have a special place in your room where you keep them.

Now that you’re in a relationship, the two of you are basically joined at the hip. Wherever you are, Alastor is not far behind. He doesn't want to admit it but the overlord is kind of clingy. He doesn't like being too far from you.

If there’s ever a reason he has to be away from you, he’ll often have a few of his little imp dolls watch after you. You always thought they were cute little fellas anyways.

The both of you aren't exactly private about your relationship, but at the same time you’re not screaming it out from the rooftops either. Alastor is well aware of the dangers you could possibly face due to his status. He’s made a lot of enemies in his time, and doesn't want to see you get hurt on his behalf.

That being said though, no demon in their right mind would try to threaten you.

God forbid they touch you either. They’d be ripped in half before they could even get another word out. 

He's fiercely protective over you. He tries to play it off as nonchalantly as possible, but you know he cares about you immensely, it’s rather sweet really.

Now about physical affection. Things will go very slowly in the beginning, as said before he's fine with things as long as he's the one initiating it. If you two are out for a stroll you’ll have your arm gently looped with his as you walk down the chipped sidewalks. You’ll have to be extremely patient with him, he’s not used to this “love” and “affection”

If you’re ever having a bad day however, he’ll slip out of his comfort zone for you, and allow you to hold onto him for as long as you please, in the privacy of your own room of course.

One of his favorite things to do with you, is to slow dance. There's something so intimate and special about it. It could be late into the evening, when everyone else had gone to their respective rooms for the night, If you listen closely though, you’ll hear the soft hum of music coming from Alastor’s den, he has you in his arms, the both of you gently sway in a slow waltz across the room to the quiet love songs emitting from his radio. It’s here that you truly savor these private moments with him.

Speaking of music, Al loves to sing to you. Oftentimes it may be a ballad or love song, and if you join in with him? He’ll fall for you even more. 

Cooking! He loves to whip up all his favorite dishes just for you, oftentimes you’ll help him in the kitchen, even if it’s the smallest thing. It's become an annual thing you two like to do together. He makes sure that you get only the best meat that this side of hell can provide.

He’ll often call you a mix of different pet names, here's a few of his favorites: Cher, Darling, Beloved, Dearest, Love, Mon Amour, Doll

Which btw on the topic of meat, Al is canonically a cannibal, he’ll often eat demon meat in his meals, and will have you try it at least once.

Admittedly has gotten slightly jealous of his own shadow. The mischievous thing was always trying to steal your attention away from him, oftentimes it would work, you would always give in and humor him, saying that ‘Even his shadow needed some loving too!’. With a strained smile, Alastor shoots a glare at the inky mass of himself, who just looks at him with a smug grin.

Will have you meet Rosie at least once. She’s one of his other closest friends, and a real sweetheart. At first she comes off as really scary and intimidating. but the more you get to know her, and she's for certain that you wont hurt her friend, she’s much more friendlier. 

You two actually bond together somewhat, having little chats about Alastor occasionally, or about her business.

It’s safe to say that this man would kill hundreds if not thousands for you. You have him wrapped around your little finger. If you ever have someone bothering you, they might as well already be dead, because this man will hunt them down like prey. And eat them too.

Honestly, Alastor as a lover is nothing short of wholesome. He’s so attentive and caring when it comes to you. Which is so refreshing to see, especially coming from one of hell’s most feared overlords. Things will most likely start of slow, but if you’re patient with him, all the hard work will be rewarded tenfold. He had initially thought the Princess of Hell’s Hotel was one of the biggest jokes of the century, but what he wasn't expecting was you to be one of the best things to come out of it. You both were cast down to suffer an eternal damnation in hell, but at least now you can endure it together <3.

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