#anti shipping real people

[disneyprincessbuffyannesummers]

I feel like some people hate Rose Leslie hate Rose for no reason other than fact that…

1/ She grew up rich with a father who was/is a politician. Rose is blue blooded. 2/ Had the audacity to fall in love & marry Kit Harington. & burst the shipper bubble of J0nerys shippers who wanted Kit & Emilia to get together. 3/ Had the audacity to get pregnant by Kit Harington and have his baby son.

Meanwhile, they: edit her wedding photos putting Emilia’s face on hers, wanted to make Kit a single father while Rose was pregnant, stalking Kit outside his house to see if Emilia was there. Stole an instagram caption from Eliza-Jane Taylor about her wedding to Bob Morley & used it on a photo of Emilia & Kit. Making pregnancy manips of Emilia Clarke.

#anti shipping real people #anti targ stans

[crimson-rain-smoked-flower]

I’m not trying to attack you, but do you know that proshipper means someone who supports and romanticizes pedophilia, incest, and abuse? Your reblog on that post seems to read that you think antis just hate on people for having ships they don’t like. But it’s completely different than that. Just looking on the proshipper side of Tumblr and the internet and you can see people happily shipping children and adults and making nsfw content of such things.

i appreciate that you're not being outright hostile, but i have to say, that on its own put you above basically every anti i've interacted with.

i understand where antis are coming from, i really do. there are a lot of things on the internet that make me deeply uncomfortable, including the minor/adult ships that you mention. i don't want to anything to do with those kinds of ships and i would be happiest if i never saw them again. which is why i'm proship.

nine times out of ten, if i see that kind of ship brought up on my dash, it's because i was following an anti without realizing it, and they brought it up unprompted and untagged, to talk about how bad it is that they exist. they are the ones putting that kind of content in front of my face and making it harder to avoid.

the thing about people who ship those ships is that they're generally very aware that not everyone wants to see that kind of content, and so they tag it. they make sideblogs to talk about it. they don't go out of their way to shove it in people's faces. that means i, and everyone else who doesn't like it, can avoid it.

what antis want is for it to not exist at all. they want the tags to be purged and blocked, and for anyone who uses those tags to have their accounts deleted. and sure, that might get rid of some of it, but do you know what would happen to the rest? it would stop being tagged. people who don't want to see it wouldn't have the tools to avoid it. this isn't just a hypothetical, that's what's happened any time a fan space has tried to do that.

that's not even getting into the rabbit hole of what should be banned and what shouldn't. obviously any content that depicts real children or real life abuse shouldn't exist and shouldn't be allowed to be posted, but basically any platform that people use already enforces those policies, and there's not much of a slippery slope to go down there. if it involves real living breathing people being abused, it's bad. end of discussion.

but the same can't be said for fiction. ask ten antis for a specific list of all the content that should be banned, and you'll get ten different answers. what about kink? what about roleplay? what about horror and murder and anything that involves fictional characters being graphically tortured? what about people using art to process terrible things that have happened to them? what about art that uses dark themes as a horror element? if you just want to ban anything questionable to anyone, that's the line of thinking that gets any mention of lgbt existence banned. and again, this isn't just a hypothetical, this has happened before, and that's generally where it leads.

i know, from personal experience, that antis do, in fact, send harassment to people just for shipping things they don't like. i've gotten accused of absolutely vile shit for shipping two fictional characters who were both consenting adults. i've seen ship wars turn into moral battlegrounds, over ships that an average person wouldn't bat an eye at.

the thing about "romanticization" is a whole other can of worms. the anti logic goes like this: if someone sees something (even if it's very obviously fictional) in a positive light enough times, they will start thinking it's okay in real life, and go on to hurt real people. the problem with that is that it's just. blatantly untrue.

if it were true every horror movie fan would be a serial killer, every person that studies dark media would be an unhinged psychopath, and everyone who is into ddlg would be a pedophile. but they're not. they just aren't. people have directed movies just as fucked up as the darkest shit on ao3, and are still capable of being normal human beings who know right from wrong in real life.

even if someone is that impressionable, scrubbing away the existence of every piece of questionable content isn't going to solve their problem, because they're still going to be vulnerable to con men, scams, and cultists. the only thing that would actually materially help someone like that is developing their own morals and critical thinking.

children are also more impressionable, and there's a lot of content that's not suitable for them, but that doesn't mean that content shouldn't exist. it just means that they should stick to spaces designed for them (which most social media sites, tumblr included, are not) or, if they're old enough to be responsible for their experience online, they, or a trusted adult in their lives, should block and filter out things that they aren't comfortable with.

which is what everyone on the internet should be doing. it's what i do, and it's made the internet a much more pleasant place to be. and it's why i sometimes worry for antis mental health, especially teenagers, because they're being told it's right and moral to seek out content that makes them uncomfortable and to engage with the people making it. and that's just. really bad. it's not good for the creators that they're harassing obviously, but it's also really bad for them! it's not healthy to seek out things that make you feel bad, and it's a terrible internet safety lesson to teach minors that it's okay for them to seek out and engage with people making adult content.

individual harassment and crusading is never going to succeed at removing dark content from the internet. it just isn't. at best you might get a small percentage of people who create that content to stop sharing it, at worst you're just going to make people stop tagging it, and either way, you're exposing yourself to things that make you feel bad, when you don't have to.

if you want to materially change the type of content you see, you can. the block button is your friend, use it liberally. same with content filtering and tag blocking.

#oops this got really long #cd.ask #proship #disk horse #tw pedophila mention #uhhh what to tag #tw shipping discourse #this doesn't even get into the antis that i've seen proudly professing that they care more about fictional characters than real people #because i don't know how to explain to someone that real humans matter more than cartoon characters #or how to avoid content on platforms other than tumblr bc frankly thats a lot of the reason i don't use them #i don't trust an algorithm #also im turning anon off after posting this so if you want to send me hate you cant be a coward about it #also be prepared to get blocked and ignored #the only reason i answered this person is bc they weren't being hostile

[hussyknee]

I'm really not a villain enjoyer. I love anti-heroes and anti-villains. But I can't see fictional evil separate from real evil. As in not that enjoying dark fiction means you condone it, but that all fiction holds up some kind of mirror to the world as it is. Killing innocent people doesn't make you an iconic lesbian girlboss it just makes you part of the mundane and stultifying black rot of the universe.

"But characters struggling with honour and goodness and the egoism of being good are so boring." Cool well some of us actually struggle with that stuff on the daily because being a good person is complicated and harder than being an edgelord.

Sure you can use fiction to explore the darkness of human nature and learn empathy, but the world doesn't actually suffer from a deficit of empathy for powerful and privileged people who do heinous stuff. You could literally kill a thousand babies in broad daylight and they'll find a way to blame your childhood trauma for it as long as you're white, cisgender, abled and attractive, and you'll be their poor little meow meow by the end of the week. Don't act like you're advocating for Quasimodo when you're just making Elon Musk hot, smart and gay.

#this is one of the reasons why #although i would kill antis in real life if i could #i also don't trust anyone who identifies as 'pro-ship' #it's just an excuse to shut down legitimate ethical questions and engaging in honest self-reflective media consumption and critique #art doesn't exist in a vacuum #it's a flat impossibility for it not to inform nor be informed by real world politics and attitudes #because that's what it means to be created by human hands #we can't even make machine learning thats not just human bias fed into an algorithm #if the way we interact with art truly didn't influence anything then there would be no value in it #just because antis have weaponized those points in the most bad faith ways possible #doesn't mean you can ignore them in good faith #anyway fandom stans villains because society loves to defend and protect abusers #it's not because you get the chance to be free and empathetic and indulge in your darkness and what not #it's just people's normal levels of attachment to shitty people with an added layer of justification for it #this blog is for boring do-gooder enjoyers only #lol #knee of huss #fandom wank #media critique #pop culture #fandom discourse

[zoluulife]

Imma say it, it’s so funny seeing zosan Stan’s saying that thriller bark is a zosan moment. Like is the zosan moment in the room with us..? I think personally the reason zoro didn’t let sanji take the pain instead of him was because of the duty he felt as a first mate. He felt obliged to be the sacrifice, he knew he had to be. But also because I mean come on it’s Luffy zoro will do anything for Luffy including giving his life for him. He values and respects Luffy the most out of anyone.

He didn’t not let sanji do it bc he was in love with him or something that’s just stupid, and honestly something zosan shippers say bc they are desperate for something. The whole zoro giving his life for Luffy vs sanji saying he should instead moment if you look at the two manga panels you will see an difference. Even though zoro says it for the crew it’s clear that his actual main reason for doing it was for Luffy while with sanji when he said he should be the one to do it it’s clearly shown he was talking about the crew in a whole.

The two panels are so different thriller bark IS zolu angst arc cry if you think otherwise bc that little “hand holding “ thing sanji did when he fainted was NOT a zosan moment

#zolu #This is just my opinion ofc I never Judge people for shipping who they want to but let’s just keep things real for a minute #anti zosan #one piece #one piece zolu #zolu fanfic #long rant sorry #monkey d. luffy #luffy #roronoa zoro #gay love #honestly just kind of sick of how delusional people are getting about this

[butterflysonnets]

yes i'm rooting for m*leven breakup because byler is neat but mostly? i'm rooting for m*leven breakup for the sake of el and mike.

to me, their romance was always a puppy love born out of a combination of social pressures, naïve curiosity, and a lack of true understanding regarding intimacy and romantic love and what it really is. it was real in that they do truly, deeply care about each other and they are close friends, maybe even shared an attraction, but a maturing romance is so much more than that. they've grown up and out of being boyfriend/girlfriend, and that's okay! i think television/film needs to show more often that most of us don't have definite "soulmates" or first childhood loves that we spend our whole lives with. it doesn't mean these relationships meant nothing and didn't impact us, it just means they've run their course and that something else is in the cards, and this is part of life!

i've always felt el was at her best and most confident self when broken up with mike, discovering who she was and what she liked alongside another girl her age instead of just relying on mike for mentorship on how to live in the real world. she deserves more of an opportunity to find herself, her autonomy, and her independence, and to love who she is, and she's made it clear she's felt insecure in the relationship with mike because she isn't being loved and understood the way she wants, needs, and deserves from someone who is her partner.

also, it's okay if mike doesn't love her in "the way he should". he is not obligated to love her romantically and stay in a relationship with her just because she's a girl, because she "needed someone", or because he cares about her a lot. he shouldn't be pressured into a romance if it's not truly coming from his heart. he deserves freedom to find out and honour who he is, too, instead of just staying in his non-functional first relationship — one he got into as a child, essentially — and defining himself that way because it's what's expected when a boy and a girl are close. he loves her in some way, yes, but it's okay if he doesn't feel comfortable or secure being her boyfriend anymore, for whatever reason that is. he's felt insecure too, and that's valid and it matters.

they are their own people and are steadily growing and changing every day. they need time to figure out who those people are, and it's become clear (at least in my opinion) that those people aren't meant to be a couple at this stage.

they deserve freedom. they deserve to grow up and be authentic to themselves and not feel like they need to lie for the sake of a relationship. they deserve to move on from this version of their relationship that isn't making them happy and rekindle the best part of their bond: their strong, beautiful friendship. they don't have to be a couple if it doesn't make them stronger and better and happier people.

i think it would be healthy and wonderful for a show, especially one consumed frequently by young adults, to show a relationship starting, progressing, and ending on good terms in this way. sometimes things don't work out, and that is okay.

#eve text #elmike #stranger things #byler #only tagging byler because i feel like yall will like this take lol #tagging tagging tagging WHAT ARE EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS #god i can't believe i'm making a post about stranger things. this feels like poking a bear #i'm not particularly anti m*leven but like... they'd have to do something pretty special at this point for me to feel like it's viable #i'm seeing the bts of s5 and it's got me Having Thoughts #elmike friendship is something i am so passionate about #even before i ever liked byler (didn't ship at all until s4 even though i knew it was a thing before) i've felt this way about elmike #i always believed they were close friends at heart and needed to break up #the romance part of them felt very distinctly young and very much “he was a boy she was a girl” to me #and it hasn't deepened into anything more mature and i don't see how it could based on the current state of the writing... #the fact that lumax exists — a young relationship that is actively maturing and is healthy — makes that clear to me #and the “love confession” in s4 and how disingenuous and miserable it felt was just the nail in the coffin #also the fact that will (who is IN LOVE with mike) was instrumental in making it happen? ... uh... okay... interesting choice… #fucked up and reductive if they make it another queer unrequited love sacrifice for the sake of pushing the heterosexual agenda YUCK #so i really hope the speculation about a m*leven breakup is real!! i think it just makes sense for their characters but who knows #i don't believe in the notion of love at first sight or one true love and i think the writers don't too??? #love to me is an accumulation of experiences and we inevitably choose it at some point rather than fall into it... but idk #tv is so fixated on keeping couples together... sometimes it's just not reality guys especially with young people... LET IT GO... #like i said though i'm not 100% sold that they're going to give up their “golden couple” LMAO #stranger things hasn't historically subverted too many tropes if i'm being honest #anyway i seriously need this season to come out quickly... i'm so bored and getting my master's is crushing my soul #i need frivolity #ALSO btw i won't respond to hateful messages about this so please don't bother. it's not that serious. this is a netflix show

[xabura]

Kataang shippers getting mad that Zutara shippers wish their ship was canon as if they don't always brag about how Kataang is canon and have been harassing the NATLA writers because they think they won't make Kataang canon.

#zutara #anti kataang #the hypocrisy with kataang shippers is unreal #i've never really cared if zutara became canon because i don't trust bryke with romance #some people wish their ship was canon while others don't and that's fine because different people have different approaches to their ships #like whatever bro #just don't attack real people over it #kataang shippers don't understand this since they're harrassing the natla writers right now and even doxxed people over fucking ships #remember that kataanger called japanese who had a blog called “badzutarafanart” which was literally dedicated to #reposting zutara fanart without permission and insulting it? #remember when kataangcaps was sending anon hate to other bloggers and then left tumblr when people were able to track her ip address #and find out it was her? lmaoo

[greensaplinggrace]

I think one of the biggest differences between bangel and spuffy is that angel isn’t a partner to buffy. he’s not even someone she knows that well. he’s not someone she’s ever familiar with, and he’s not someone she can ever fully rely on.

yeah their romance was big and grand and all the things a tragic fairytale romance is. but at the end of the day their relationship is so incredibly surface level. all there is is the idea of love, and not even the real thing.

#btvs #spike btvs #spuffy #buffy summers #anti angel #anti bangel #just in case #tbh I’m usually a multishipper when it comes to this sort of thing but… #b*ngel comes across as so surface level to me #there’s no real force or depth to it #even disregarding the weird vibes angel gives off about buffy’s age and his condescension and when he first fell in love with her #and all the ways he keeps her hooked by refusing to leave her alone after breaking up with her #a choice that he makes ‘for her own good’ - which he seems to do a lot #it’s that he has no real impact on her as an actual person/slayer with interests and complexity and depth #while he hurt her and affected her #sometimes it feels like he barely made a scratch at all to what actually represents her personhood #anyways I don’t hate him or the ship really and I get why people like him #it’s just to me it’s kind of ridículous that people #say he was it for buffy #when he was barely even a partner #that’s high school romance not real bone deep love #myramblings

[barb-l]

man. do Ch*rlastor shippers even like or know Charlie as a character or is she just a hollow character for self-insert purposes to them

#hazbin hotel #sorry im in a bitter mood today lawl #the anti chaggie takes ive been seeing in the chaggie tag are just #reading them makes me feel like im ironing the wrinkles in my brain #im not talking about people who are honest about liking the ship for self indulgent purposes. that's fiiiiiiine. i do it too! #im talking about people who genuinely think it's what would make the most sense for charlie #even tho they've barely even talked to each other on screen #and have just such unbridled hate for vaggie #i appreciate alastor fans who love chaggie and vaggie so much. u guys r the real ones

[crowsdove]

Selfshippers that have fankids with your f/o's, please feel free to talk about them in the replies/reblogs of this post. Anything at all that you want to share about them. As many details as you want or even just something as simple as their name.

Getting to talk about/brag about your children is a very special thing, and I don't know how many of you are as lucky as I am to have people that are willing to let you share these things with them, so I'm extending that courtesy to you all, whether you already have someone to tell about them or not :}

I dunno, I just think that we all deserve to be able to feel like proud parents sometimes.

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#proship selfship #antis dni #antis please dni #proship please interact #self shipping #proselfship #inspired by me remembering a time where i was lamenting to a friend about how much i hated that sometimes #my children feel even less real than their father because while millions of people know about him i'm really the only one that knows them #and my friend told me ''then tell me about them so i can help make them more real'' #and also inspired by my mom always wanting updates on her grandkids :'} #{crowsdove original posts} #proshippers please interact

[dollypopup]

y'all can all cancel me (again) for this, but if there's even a SHRED of 'who should I pick?' from Penelope in season 3, I am tuning out SO fast because like. . .sorry not sorry, there IS no choice. Debling is some crusty OC suitor she barely even knows and Colin is a man who she has been so supposedly in love with to the point where she'd ruin her entire family's reputation to have a potential love story with him. Penelope and Colin have background, years of knowing each other, intimacy that few people in the Ton can boast of having (letters, conversations about purpose, fights and arguments and makeups) and her and Debling have. . .a dance or two at a ball because he's a rebound for Penelope's broken heart. he means nothing. he has no nuance, he has no weight to the story, he is such an afterthought to me. either I wanna see Penelope going 'you know what? I don't even LIKE this dude. he's. . .fine, but I don't care about him even a shred as much as I care about Colin' or the INSTANT Colin's like 'you know what? we should get married' if it's not an immediate 'say less, you're already my husband, try returning me without the receipt, Debling whomst?' then I don't want it!

like. . .it's just so frustrating to see all the 'I hope Debling sweeps her off her feet and she rejects Colin's proposal and she makes him work for it and and and-' nonsense from the fandom and it's always tagged and no matter how many times I block it, it just keeps popping up. I go into the Polin tag for POLIN. I don't give a SHIT about a male love interest other than Colin. Not one. Not a shred. Not an iota.

and also. . .Debling has the 'benefit' of not having depth, or character traits, or HISTORY, so peeps can project onto him however they want, but I'm calling it now, there is NOTHING he could do or be that would make me like him more than Colin. Colin will always hit different, and I will always love him more. and if Pen's not on that same page? lol bye

you want me to believe Penelope and Colin are soulmates and it's romance for her to hem and haw about how difficult a decision it is for her to marry a stranger who knows barely anything about her. . .

when Marina was out here dropping banger lines like 'You were the only man with which I could see myself being happy' and 'I do not care about any of these men, where is Colin?'? like hello??? and she wasn't even fully in love with him!!!! but we'll demonize her until the cows come home in our fandom and make her the villain in Polin's love story for DARING to get in between Polin, yet Debling, a white man, is a darling dear perfect prince for getting in between Polin? existing in our fandom solely so Penelope can be like 'lol, Colin ain't shit, let me entertain any and everyone else'?

if that's the direction it goes then, ten toes down and on my mama, she doesn't deserve Colin and she can move because I'm on my way to court him my damn self

and that's that on that

#you know what? lol it's been a bit since i've posted a controversial opinion #tagging it #polin #sorry not sorry i ship polin. . .so i wanna see. . .polin. . .and i'm getting damn sick and tired #of all the bullshit pen/oc pen/other dude theories and stories in the polin tag #and i don't want polin to lose screentime over a frankly bleh male oc #you can't change my mind #if i don't see at least marina's 'you've seen him with the little bridgertons!' level of squee and 'i only want to talk to colin' #levels of devotion then i don't fucking WANT IT!!!!! #yeah definitely try out the marriage market #realize that NO ONE has a good time on the marriage market #try to get over him w/ whomstever #but then be like 'i don't even LIKE this dude where's colin i miss him' about it!!!!! #because otherwise i am not here #i am asleep #and i am courting colin in your place pen #i'm coming for your man #anti debling #if debling has 100 haters i am one of them if he has 10 haters i'm one of them if he has 1 hater i am the hater if he has 0 haters i'm dead #it's incredibly obvious that 'pebling' is half rooted in a revenge storyline fueled by anger at Colin and his complexity #and half a projection of wanting Penelope to have 'choices' because she is a representation and manifestation of the fans themselves #and so people think an OC that can be 'perfect' for them- whoops I mean Pen (because he doesn't have any real depth or interest) #he's a cardboard cutout we can throw whatever you want onto #so we can make him 'perfect' instead of the much more meaningful storyline of pen and colin both being messy and loving each other more #and part of it is bitterness over Polin not being insta-love #which. . .if it was i wouldn't like them as much as i do #anyways y'all ain't slick #and it's fucking WEIRD to be in a fandom that's like 'i ship this couple but i hope she gets with ANYONE else' #maybe you. . .don't ship the couple?? #like. . .to the point of wanting her necklace to be from debling. . .and her wearing it everywhere??? WHAT??

[gwandas]

The way some IC stans talk makes me feel like they’ve never participated in fandom before ACOTAR. Why are you so offended over crackshipping?

Like okay most people are well aware crackships aren’t going to happen, but theoretically let’s say someone is delusional about a crackship—that’s still not harmful! They’re not real people, relax! Use the block button and move on.

#anti inner circle #anti ic #when i see people say x character would hate being shipped with y character! #i giggle like are you okay? they’re not REAL #calm down

[thatweirdguyinthebushes]

sometimes when people say "they're a pro shipper" they don't mean that someone glorifies pedophilic or non consensual relationships and they actually mean "this person writes a canonically abusive dynamic as abusive, but they do it in a way that makes me feel gross" and I feel like that's a very important distinction

#portrayal is not always glorification #and i feel like there are too many people who do not know that #or who ignore that distinction to justify disliking writing that makes them uncomfortable #even if that was the authors point #shipping discourse #“is this pro ship or anti” im an adult #i have real sex i dont worry about it that much #just a thought i wanted to share #also kind of secretly not secretly about #waltjesse

[bohemian-nights]

I see “fans” are concern trolling about Nettles again

#nettles #netty #like clockwork #and yes it’s concern trolling since it happens every time a black woman character is about to be the love interest #even in ‘appropriate’ relationships #these people always find something to b!tch about #many of these fans ship alys x aemond and while I like them too you really can’t say daemon x nettles is worse than that relationship #if it’s not saying she was groomed it’s saying how she’s his daughter 🤦🏽‍♀️ #or how she’s going to be axed and replace with Rhaena #or how she’s actually not black and she can be played by anyone🙃 #or she isn’t real🙃 #anti hotd fandom #both sides of this fandom are loud and wrong at this point #hotd #house of the dragon #hotd spoilers #fandom misogynoir #when the show makes it clear that nettles wasn’t groomed then what will y’all do🙃 #nettles f&b #nettles asoiaf #bncommentary

[rouge-the-bat]

"i need to know if this character is an adult or not so i know if i can selfship with them!" ...my dude you clearly are already attracted to them ??? like. gurl theyre FICTIONAL. do whatever the fuck you want god damn.

self ship with them with them aged up. or with an imaginary version of you aged down. or just hc whatever gd age you want for them whether or not it ends up being canon (or its already stated in canon but doesnt match ur view of them). or selfship yourself with them through a character in canon. you can literally just see your fictional other as aging with you. who fucking cares. its fiction. the specifics of the relationship is whatever the hell you make it.

its literally so sad to see people being afraid to just SELF SHIP because they dont know if its potentially ~problematic~ depending on stuff they can easily just rule out of their own view of canon 💀 canon is your sandbox you can tear down the castle and build it anew however to your liking

#im glad that shadow is canonically immortal and hiei has no stated age #bc if people tried to give me shit for being in love with either of them i would fucking kill someone #i fell in love with shadow years ago through shipping him with rouge and i still love him now. he ''ages'' with me #and hiei i technically hc him as nearly a hundred but hes a demon #and i selfship with him through kurama who has also lived for centuries so #i swear you dont have to drop off your fictional crushes from your teen years when you turn an adult. you can just see them as aging with u #just. man. OTL #seeing ppl being like this is so sad fr. this shipping discourse shit is making ppl walk on eggshells over the littlest shit #anti fanpol #like its different for real life bc yea sometimes u cant always tell someones age by looking at them #u can find someone attractive and talk to them and find out theyre too young for you. so you back off #but like. this is fiction. things arent set in stone. the creator can make a time skip for the characters and so can you #and plus. theyre NOT REAL. you wouldnt be harming a REAL PERSON. and its not at all comparable to the suffering and abuse of REAL PEOPLE

[greensaplinggrace]

sorry but the funniest little splashes in this fandom to me are still the people that are like "how can you ship _!!" okay well first of all, gladly. and second of all... do you not know how shipping works.

"how can you think this ship is morally acceptable?!" i don't. "how could anyone think this relationship is ok?!!" they don't. " how could shippers condone such actions-!" we don't. "how could anyone like something so terrible??" maybe go out in the real world. idk. or join a non tiktok braindead bookclub.

#grishaverse #shadow and bone #also non fandom people in the real world like all KINDS of fucked up ships idk what to tell you #its so weird to me when antis are like 'go talk to a family member' #'go see how fucked up you are in comparison to normal people for shipping this' #girl do you know how many 'normal people' ship lannicest #do you know how many of them ship spuffy and bangel #except they do it without all the weird discourse lol #discourse #negative #darklina #sab discourse

[paladintoyourcleric]

What the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you ship two clearly straight teenagers? Do you forget they are minors? And your making up all this disgusting stuff about them? There are CHILDREN who watch Stranger Things, we don't need another gay couple. There are so many gay characters it's ridiculous. If you ship byler you belong in jail with the rest of the pedophiles.

im not even gonna dive into this

But let this speak for itself, wtf are milevens so heated about? Let us make our art and write our fanfics in peace.

#byler s4 #byler s5 #byler tumblr #mike x will #byler theory #bylerweek2023 #byler nation #byler is real #byler proof #byler #anti mileven #byler endgame #byler is endgame #anti milkvan #gay mike wheeler #Wtf are milevens so pressed about? #this is fucking ridiculous #this is fucking stupid #this is fucking insane #Don't compare people who like a FICTIONAL ship to LITERAL MONSTERS