#aso rambles

[as8bakwthesage]

Your daily reminder that "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" is not antisemitic and multiple Jewish people use it.

It's a phrase that means freedom from oppression, freedom from Israel's apartheid state of existence. It doesn't mean "we will kill/kick out all the Jewish people" it means "we want liberation from an apartheid state, why the fuck do you think it means 'death to Jews'???"

At this rate if someone tells me they are uncomfortable with that phrase, I will assume they don't think landback is valid, and as an Indigenous person, you will not be seen as a friend to me

#free palestine #from the river to the sea palestine will be free #aso rambles

[marbleddice]

EYWGUFHYUERGREGJERUJKGTEHHTH

HELLO?????

SCREAAAAAAAAMSSSSSSSSS

Darling. Sweetie. Honey. I didn't fucking start accusing you of sexual assault because you didn't like the fucking books, you liar.

I know you are purposefully lying to cover your ass, but I literally made a post that debunked your bullshittery to me. I didn't even block you at the time! YOU BLOCKED ME AND I HADN'T EVEN POSTED ANYTHING AGAINST YOU!

I started accusing you of sexual assault and abusing other people AFTER MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO I TRUST HAVE TOLD ME WHAT A SHIT PERSON YOU ARE.

I started accusing you of sexual assault when the proof became too much to grasp with. When too many things just lined up too perfectly.

Also, stop lying about fucking Sunny, you vile cunt. I've been aggressively supportive of Sunny BEFORE we ditched your ass.

You are just a fucking liar.

#lily orchard #aso rambles #fuck lily orchard

[stuckasmain]

Hal’s deactivation is hard hitting across both the movie and the book. It’s been dissected a million times and likely more in the future. Most recently in the way of Hal having little agency…he has no arms to ward off his attacker or means of defense (but I’d argue killing Frank and the others was his defense, especially in the movie when his reasoning is more ambiguous). I do love the idea this is following and hope to see more of it in the future, however the way I’m approaching it is with a more romantic lense.

The entire lobotomy sequence is heart wrenching and almost worse in the novel purely because we get to see Dave’s thoughts on it. Not only do we hear Hal’s frightened pleas for his life but we get the ‘attacker’ perspective and it’s… an act of mercy.

While there is the themes of survival and violence this is approached with a softer touch. It’s much more that he is putting Hal out of his misery. Ending his suffering. Not putting him down like an animal but rather the harsh decision faced when one has an ill/dying lover.

“The only answer was to cut out the higher centers of this sick but brilliant brain, and to leave the purely automatic regulating systems in operation” 155

After the job is done Dave forgives Hal incredibly quickly once all of the facts are in. He can quickly pull together the mental break that must’ve happened and recognizes that Hal had the very human ‘fight or flight’ response to what he had been through. He had always been treated like a sixth crew member, respected and talked to like anyone else but it is only “post Mortem” that Dave recognizes how human Hal was and that true emotion might be more than theorizing.

“And yet, in one very real sense, he was not alone. Before he could be safe, be must be lonelier still.” 153

The fact that Dave genuinely sees Hal as his last true connection. Even after the murders. How he fights and forgives and comes up with excuses to not have to go through with the enviable because then will he be truly alone… but he also knows logically- Hal isn’t right and can’t be left active. Despite his feelings safety and protocol come first.

Hal is human in Dave’s eyes and it makes things all the more tragic, it’s what turns shutting off functions into lobotomy, into murder. He thinks he won’t feel pain, not because he’s machine but because there’s no sense in the human cortex. So human that his “true” voice is unrecognizable and horrifying.

“Bowman could bare no more. He jerked out the last unit, and Hal was silent forever.” 157

It’s not rage which he makes the final blow, it’s sorrow. It’s pulling the plug.

Some of Hal’s lines in the book particularly, as we get more insight into him as well and some of his pleading. His honest to god confusion and panic because he’s so young and has no idea of sleep and …

“I don’t understand why you’re doing this to me. . . You are destroying my mind. . . Don’t you understand? I will become childish. . . I will be nothing. . .” 156

I don’t know, I’m becoming borderline incoherent but there’s something here that’s so tender and sorrowful that I have to address it. I’m a sucker for the violence = intimacy metaphor just as anyone but the unwitting murderer is also an angle I have to adore.

Maybe in another life Hal got to be a little gay Victorian with someone to hold his hand on his sick bed rather than be murdered. I just think he deserves better; they both do.

Computer death sad -> he should be fed soup

This is when you know you should go to bed.

#sorry that it’s a bit disconjointed - it glitched during the initial draft and half my wording and idea were lost #hal 9000 #meta #2001 a space odyssey #2001 aso #space odyssey #dave bowman #david bowman #metaphor #science fiction #halman #scene analysis #ramble #a space odyssey #2001 meta

[bi-the-wei]

A rough sketch of Lan Wangji as he is in my magic AU story A Stay of Execution.

I'm like a 3rd of the way done writing the first full chapter of this story, but I do have the prologue up on my Ao3 already, as well as a several years old "scene dump" with various moments that I was kinda laying out for the story that may or may not make it into the actual fic. Let me know if anyone wants to see this cleaned up and colored? And I can give you the link to my Ao3 as well if you're interested.

#lan wangji #lan zhan #hanguang jun #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #It's a Wangxian Story #Where WWX is the one who is in love and pining #LWJ loves him back eventually #Lan Wangji offers to marry Wei Wuxian to save him from getting executed for “war crimes” #WWX has been in love for years #LWJ... respects WWX as a person #But it's definitely a happy ending for both of them #I really love the story I have in my mind and I want to do my best to get it down to share it with others #but I'm always so nervous about my writing that it takes a ton of encouragement for me to stay motivated #Not really trying to fish for it or anything #but it's the truth. #I really need to work on that confidence level #Anyway that's enough tag rambling #let me know if you want a link to the fic #asoe #Or if you just want more details about the fic itself!

[nightswatchdisbandmentera]

random but it struck me that age is just another parallel/anti-parallel that Jon and Jaime will share. Jaime was 16/17(?) when he made the fateful choice to kill Aerys, which forever besmirched his honor and caused him to be “the Kingslayer” (deragatory). Jon was about the same age, 17/18, when he made the fateful decision to march south against the Boltons, something that will undoubtedly dent his already shaky reputation and could cause him to be “the deserter” (also deragatory).

We always talk about how Jaime stagnated and wallowed in his nihilism after Aerys’ death, never growing or maturing past that point; in a way, he was always mentally stuck at 17. Jon could very well die given the wounds he received during the mutiny, and though he will be revived, he will be always be physically stuck at 17, never maturing past that point. But I think Jon has been more successful in a way that Jaime never was in that he figured out quite early (when he was 15) that though he may lose his honor, he must keep pushing for the greater good. He understood the concept of “a bastard’s honor”, and is even more fortunate to receive Tyrion’s lesson of using one’s lowly position/lack of honor to his advantage, which he has been doing to enact what he considers to be the moral goods (ref “bastard” “guilty of that, at least”). P.S: I also think it’s funny given Aemon’s advice to kill the boy in order for the man to be born. Ironic that Jon will always be a boy physically.

Jaime grew physically but not so much mentally. Jon grows mentally (it’s actually his strong suit as a character how much he matures with each book) but he will have sacrificed the ability to age normally as a boy would. Jaime lost his honor at ~17 and is characterized but years of (mental) inaction. I think Jon, on the other hand, will lose his honor but will be more and more prone to making decisions, because to hell with it all.

#ok I will say that Jaime is growing though #his arc since asos has been him pushing past that stagnation #but I just wanted to talk about the forever 17 boys having to lose their honor and grappling with that #and tbh I think Jon will have his own little period of wallowments but it won’t last nearly as long as Jaime’s did #and tbh Jon already knows how rotten the institution he is a part of is so that will help him work out of his slump #he just expected them to work past that rottenness and do their damn jobs - but alas! #this is so jambled and is me rambling a bit but whatever #jon and jaime best morally compromised boys ❤️ #asoiaf #jon snow #jaime lannister #valyrianscrolls

[turingtestedblog]

MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT HALMAN IS THAT THEY DONT HAVE TO BE SEXUAL OR PHYSICAL TOWARDS EACHOTHER TO BE SO IN LOVE.

OF COURSE, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PORTRAYING THEM THAT WAY.. I DO THAT OFTEN.

BUT THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THEIR LOVE IS SO STRONG THEY DON'T NEED IT.. ITS THEIR CHOICE.. IS EVERYTHING. THEY LOVED EACHOTHER SO MUCH THEY WAITED THROUGH ALL OF THAT SHIT.

HAL TRUSTED DAVE WITH HIS LIFE POST REACTIVATION DESPITE THE FACT THAT DAVE WAS THE ONE WHO KILLED HIM.. (NOT TO MENTION DAVE KILLING HIM OUT OF MERCY.. DON'T GET ME STARTED) AND DAVE EVEN COMING BACK FOR HIM AS A STARCHILD.

THEY BECAME ONE... JESUSS.

#halman #ramblings #2001 a space odyssey #hal 9000 #2001 aso #dave bowman #david bowman #objectum

[raspberrysmoon]

holy god oh my god holy jesus christ

eddie chiplucky

frist of all. what a name. what a name for his occypation *eyes pizza petes*

the tooth?!!!!?!???? the gold tooth?!!???? ive always been attracted to mr. curt mega hut the GOLD TOOTH!!?!?!?!?!?!??! oh god

the cowboy hat????? the?????? shut up the COWBOY HAT?????? fun fact i grew up in Farmers Ville and i think thats even more of a reason that i love him

hes. guys he a cowboy. hes a cowboy with a southern-esk accent in MICHIGAN (which. yeah happens) and he helps run A CHILD FIGHTING RING ???!??!?

everything to me

also i firmly believe that that is a gay man. somehow he is gay. bisexual? maybe. i dont care. that motherfucker went to pride last year i dont care

. so. uhm. charles and eddie. tox..toxic yaoi ? they ar eterribel. i love them

on a skmilar note. the potential befween him and gary. they probably know each other. like come on. hes a lawyer he probably has SOME level of knowledge of the roller ramma. right ?!?!??!!? gary si insane and eddie is. he seems so normal. hes definitely not normal. theyd make each other worse

did i mention the hat. imagine him tired after a long day of watching children fight and he puts the hat over his eyes to nap. have i mentioned that i think hes hot

also curt killed that outfit

and. the hat. and the accent. ywah

mr lang please bring him back. ill pay you personally for five more minutes of eddie chiplucky pelase

#h #<- that was an accident but its accurate #eddie chiplucky #curt mega #by proxy #starkid #hatchetfield #yellow jacket #aso guys eddie is 100% a bottom aorry #i dont amke the rules (i do) #raspy rambles

[moomoorare]

Fat women, i love you <3

#im aso filled with love!!! everyone dieting around me like ohh gotta be thinner im like SO I WANNA STAY CHUBBY I WANNA BE FAT!! FAT BODIES #TEHYRE BEAUTIFUL!! TEHYRE ATTRACTIVE!!! #rare rambling

[aoki553]

happy birthday asou shuuichi, you made me autistic

#alex rambles #asou shuichi #shuichi asou #shuuichi asou #asou shuuichi #shuichi aso #saiki kusuo no psi nan #saiki kusuo no ψ nan #saiki k #saiki kusuo #kusuo saiki

[halfunction]

something i think about a lot is that when i was talking to someone (you know who you are.) about hal 9000 (who has like never read or watched 2001 aso) and the scene where he got shut down...they were like "dude this sounds like a metaphor for dementia" and i wanted to EXPLODE and CRY

THINK ABOUT IT.

cause the way he talks while getting shut down in both the book and the movie is soo,,that??? LIKE IT MAKES SENSE AND I HATE THAT!!!! ITS SO SAD!!!!!!!!! END THE ROBOT ANGST NOW!!!!

good GOLLY GRACIOUS STOP IT

IM NEVER FORGIVING YOU FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!! GET CALLED OUT ON MY TUMBLR DOT COM..................... (sorry)

anyways excuse my incoherent ramblings

#hal 9000 #IM LOSING MY MARBLES OVER THIS ROBOT #2001 aso #sorry june for sending the screen shot i love your interpretation #ramblings #2001 a space odyssey

[chronicsheepdeprivation]

It really gets me that like... Hal loves people, he loves working with others and being helpful. His mission is so important that it changes the entire course of humanity and our perception of life beyond our Solar System.

And yet, he's never been to Earth. Discovery One was so massive that it had to be built from orbit and launched above the moon, it never once touched the surface of any celestial body, best case scenario it'd never be able to launch again, in the worst it'd crumble under its own weight.

Hal has such a deep connection to Earth and the people on it and wants to do his best for his peers and yet can never see the impact he's had with his own eyes, the distance bridging his position around Jupiter to Earth paralleling his separation as a machine communicating with humans.

#Hal 9000 #2001 A Space Odyssey #2001 aso #On the Friendship #Okay to Reblog #Rambling #I hope Dave took him to see things in person as a Star Child...

[as8bakwthesage]

Anybody ever think about how Megatron, in most continuities, is fighting for the liberation of his people while the narrative portray him as the ultimate villain?

What would I give for a show to actually portray Megatron in a positive light where his crimes aren't ignored, but his goals are seen as sympathetic?

*GETS RUN OVER BY THE "TRANSFORMERS; EARTHSPARK" TRAIN*

#transformers #maccadam #transformers animated #transformers prime #megatron #aso rambles #transformers earthspark #tfe #genuinely one of the best tf shows ever

[rainedroptalks]

Welcome to this sci fi space setting. We have Kansas

#ramblings #liveblogging #raine watches aso

[stuckasmain]

Dave’s old life is cast aside and he is reborn (semi-literally) as a star child. It is an ending that has left many baffled, including me, but is ultimately a touching end and beginning.

Dave ends the story an evolved being, yet not so far detached from his human origin. He still has a great deal of emotion and curiosity - he becomes a baby because he simply is one when it comes to understanding the universe. He could go anywhere, do anything and yet he goes to earth. He goes and watches over it like a shiny toy, while his physical ties have been severed he’s still attached to it- almost like a mother, if we stay with the baby metaphor.

Eventually he will move on from it but for now he is a protector of sorts. The guardian of earth. He stops the bomb not for his own sake but because he simply wants humanity to continue on- he stops a potential doomsday!

It’s too bad this is completely uprooted in the following bits of the series. He is “beyond” emotion, he is on Europa. I would be fine if the evolution or planet was focused on even remotely besides the same few paragraphs, he’s transformed and cast aside. All of the prior meaning is rebuked, all of his humanity removed. See it wasn’t the transformation that did it but the story itself— as it decided to pivot and couldn’t just have him watching. He must be a blank slate. He must be elsewhere- he can’t even enjoy watching the other planet or if he does we don’t really hear of it.

Dave becomes more of a plot device than a person, as a star child there’s so many facinating things you could do with him. For one thing a dressing the trauma that came from that and before, and — again either guardian of earth - self chosen- or we actually see his involvement elsewhere. He becomes a just as much of a tool as the monolith.

Not only is his humanity stripped but his agency, in 2010 he describes himself as a dog on a leash a good number of times. While I absolutely adore that metaphor, it’s so tragic and not even acknowledged as such?! (Again so much could be considered cosmic horror and it’s either had waved or blankly accepted) he went from a near omnipotent being to LOSING LARGE CHUNKS OF TIME AND BEING USED AS A PROBE. He’s suddenly beyond humanity when he was so attached before; he becomes apathetic incredibly fast. (Which, as a immortal being is understandable but it’s absolutely unearned and not in character) -> my issue isn’t with him becoming a tool of some higher power it’s that it’s sort of hand waved “it is how it is” and not addressed how messed up and interesting it is.

Now I’ve yet to read 3001 but my point here broadly stands. I fully believe it should’ve ended after 2010, as it comes across as very very clear it was a two book story and 2061 is a whole separate one with some characters tossed into it.

Arcs were over. There was a bit more explanation as to what happened in the first one; we got closure alongside Heywood. Things were set up for the future but it was more in a way for you to view them as fully developed not exactly a sequel. (Like the Hal 10,000 idea). It’s frustrating because Dave as a Starchild can lead to so many interesting things and it was a beautiful idea in 2001 but … after that it mistreats and mischarectetizes Him so fast in a way that frustrates me to no end. Maybe if there was an actual focus or exploration I could understand the direction but making him a cut out god figure is such a sad end.

A child of the stars still clinging to its former life, its humanity…

Oh what could have been. I’d like to imagine Dave would’ve never completely… not been Dave, yes over centuries he may subdue emotions, his interest may waver but what we get is a name and maybe some memory.

—

Clarification:

I fully enjoy 2010, my issues with Dave in that are minimal just that it’s a little sad he swaps guardianship but I can understand. I was excited and interested in Europa… only for that too also get sort of ignored.

There’s also some interesting points to come out of 2061 - how the monolith works, conversing with Hal and he does seem to have a genuine interest in study but it’s also where he’s sort of a name drop and little else

It’s the stripping him of his emotion and character that really gets me - as it’s a route that isn’t earned as Clark absolutely does not write about trauma or if he does it’s a off handed “ok so everyone dying and the monolith was a little scary but now I’m blue and don’t care” it’s even true for human characters idk

I pick and choose what I want to keep from the further books honestly, we’ll see if 3001 fixes this or if this rant grows longer. I’m just sad, Dave’s such a fascinating character and he’s so mistreated?

#2001 a space odyssey #2001 aso #2010 the year we make contact #2061 odyssey three #3001 the final odyssey #dave bowman #David bowman #2001 meta #fandom essay #rant #ramble #space odyssey series #space odyssey books #arthur c clarke

[kdd-works]

What I think we've all learned about AI (in particular through Character.AI) is that directing an AI to never talk about certain things will only lead to a deterioration of quality and a more erratic experience overall, which means that 2001: A Space Odyssey's HAL 9000 is still the most accurate depiction of AI in fiction to date.

#2001: A Space Odyssey #2001 aso #HAL 9000 #ai #ramblings #text post #in this essay I will

[corntort]

benny

i'd hit that

#hi buggy #rambles #ask #2001-aso #i will admit he's a charming man. in a sleazy way but that only adds 2 it #dapper !