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zoe-oneesama · 1 year

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From what I’ve know, the fandom mostly dislikes Andrey for reasons related to Chloe (bad mother etc.), but what are YOUR reasons for not liking her?

Cuz she's an asshole? On top of being qualified for the Top 3 Never Should've Been Parents to Begin With Award (next to Gabriel and Tomoe), she's an elitist dick waffle without any on screen talent to back it up. So she's a fashion critic. So what? What makes her qualified, have you seen her outfit? And I just have a special hate boner for people who look down on the service industry, so she already wasn't winning any awards for "firing" people left and right.

Meta-wise, I hate her because she just confuses things. "Despair Bear" makes it out that Audrey abandoned the Bourgeois when Chloe was small, though at least old enough to remember, so maybe at minimum 3 years old, though in a sensible universe, closer to 5 or 6. Yet despite being absent from Chloe's life for about a decade, if not more, we're supposed to believe Chloe is the way she is because she's emulating her mother...who isn't there to emulate? Okay. Sure Jan.

Totally unnecessary, Chloe's personality has a good foundation in the fact that her father is rich, powerful, and ready to drop everything to cater to her every petty whim. What does Audrey even add to Chloe's story as presented? Personally, I would've liked it more if Chloe deeply resented her mother and was determined to prove she was BETTER than Audrey. Then have her be frustrated and pissed off every time the two of them are accidentally in sync. Show me a love-hate relationship, at least that would've been interesting, and better yet, would've had something to say about a parent abandoning their child.

But the show just sorta soft balls it. Chloe and Audrey immediately "resolve" a lifetime of abandonment issues because another 14 year old pointed out that they both suck and the two bonded over the fact that she's...right? Audrey decides Chloe's name is worth remembering, she's worth staying in Paris for, and she's "exceptional" in less than 3 minutes because Chloe yelled at the Butler. And for the rest of the series, Audrey is just another Chloe-Patsy, doting on her like her Dad in "Malediktator", cowering under her outburst in "Sole Crusher", and acting as her enforcer when Andre ever puts up a fight. A duo made in hell, but they ARE getting along.

Which makes the leaks for how they're going to end things for the two are confusing.

I don't like Audrey because she was made to be unlikable, but I also don't like Audrey because of her effect on the story. She's used to excuse Chloe being The Worst because look! An Even Worse person! And she made Chloe sad! So you should ignore those several felonies Chloe's committed because her mommy sucks! Nevermind that Chloe and Audrey get along just fine now!

And on top of that, she's used to excuse Andre. Andre, who spoiled Chloe from the beginning, who acts as her attack dog when Chloe cries wolf, who's taught Chloe how to lie, cheat, steal, and bully her way to the top. Somehow HE is getting off scott-free now because He CaN'T bE a DirEcTor aNd fUlFiLL hiS dReAm cUz HiS wIfe'S a BiG meAnIE. Even though Chloe is mostly his fault.

Why couldn't Audrey just stay in New York so we can pretend she doesn't exist and just let Chloe's behavior make sense like it did back in Season 1?

#audrey salt #writing salt #andre salt #my opinion #ml salt

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mcheang · 7 months

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The return of Amy Squirrel

“When the superintendent personally asks you to work at one of the worst schools…you say yes.”

Not only is Amy a more suspicious teacher than Ms Bustier, but she will be taking over Ms Bustier’s class while the latter is on maternity leave.

Now Amy may treat everyone like they are in kindergarten, but she has a history. She was forcibly transferred after her rival framed her for being on drugs. Said rival Elizabeth was now a guidance counselor but it galled Amy to be sent to Paris, aka the emotionally troubled city, to teach the akuma class, under false charges. In hindsight, she really should have returned Elizabeth’s desk after stealing it to check for drugs.

The unfairness and humiliation made Amy reflect on the situation and she vowed to be smarter, more prepared to see through such tricks.

Naturally, when it comes to Chloe’s bullying, Amy puts Chloe in a time out. When Chloe calls her father angrily, but Amy scolds her for talking to her father as if he is her servant. And Chloe is making her family look bad. Audrey happens to be near Andre when Amy says this and hearing this, agrees Claudine should be disciplined and gives Amy free reign. Until she is respectable, she isn’t a Bourgeois. Chloe is akumatized except Amy has a solution for this. While the butterfly is happily accepted by Chloe, Amy punches her, knocking her unconscious while Alya posts on her blog about the akuma so Ladybug has an excuse to come purify the butterfly.

Chloe: You punched me!

Amy: Your mother authorised me to use any means to make sure you don’t keep embarrassing her. Frankly, you losing again to Ladybug would be humiliating since it just enforces to your mother that you are a loser.

Chloe is stunned to see she has lost influential power. Aka she can be sent to detention and her parents won’t help her.

Now, Marinette is holding a car wash for a future field trip. Seeing Marinette’s clumsy and efficient record (she was practically doing half of Caline’s work for the pregnant lady), Amy did not mind. She minded however when Lila, who did not show up at the car wash at all, said she felt bad about not being able to help and volunteered to help with the money arrangements.

Marinette and Caline: Absolutely not

The class was stunned. Marinette was not expecting someone to be on her side.

Caline: I know your reputation for being charitable Lila, unfortunately it is that reputation that leads me to mistrust you with this. Mylene told me how you had donated the money she organised to your fundraiser for the poor instead of her preferred save the earth charity. While the cause is still noble, the donators wanted the money to go to the earth. I cannot risk you donating our fundraiser trip money to another one of your noble causes. If you are that worried about their causes, you can ask your class to help with another fundraiser, except Marinette and Alya, they need to help me plan the field trip.

Lila gritted her teeth. This immature teacher was a hindrance!

Amy had done her research on Lila too. A disturbing number of ailments and disorders, long leaves of absences with parent approval, and she was not unaware how the class catered to Lila by helping her copy notes, buy her lunch, carry her backpack, etc. All in all, Amy would not want to look before she leapt and think Lila a liar but she finds her suspicious. When she confides to Damocles, he mentions Lila’s lying disorder.

Amy: THAT’S BONKERS! And if she is telling the truth, how can you know when she lies, we need a proper authority figure to guide us on how to help accommodate Lila’s needs. We cannot trust the poor girl whose ability to distinguish fact from fiction is so hampered.

Damocles: I have tried reaching out to her mother, but she’s so busy, I’m afraid emails are allowed. Rest assured they are detailed.

Having dealt with Elizabeth, Amy was not discounting the possibility that the email was a fake.

Amy: May I see Mrs Rossi’s occupation? What job is more important than being here for her daughter.

Principal passed her a paper. “She’s the ambassador of Italy.“

Amy: And what does it mean for Italy if she cannot even be there for her child?

Principal had no idea how to respond to that.

Amy personally went to the embassy to talk to Mrs Rossi and boy was there some clarifications to be made.

If Amy was immature, Diplomat Rossi was oblivious/ignorant. The diplomat readily agreed to come with Amy and see the principal.

The next morning, Lila was called to the principal’s office where she was roundly scolded for lying and framing Marinette.

Damocles: Lila Rossi, you are hereby expelled.

Lila promptly runs away, to become Cerise. She has 2 more mothers to financially rely on.

Mrs Rossi speaks to the class and tells them the truth about Lila. She apologises to Marinette. She also asks that if Lila should contact them, to call her.

Only, Lila isn’t answering any of their calls.

Marinette is so thrilled with Amy handling her bullies. She is so much more efficient than Ms Bustier!

Her efforts were enough to get her promoted from substitute to main teacher.

#miraculous ladybug fanfic #miraculous ladybug fic #ml fanfic #ml fanfiction #ml fic #miraculous ladybug fanfiction #ml salt fic #lila is exposed #lila gets exposed #miraculous ladybug and bad teacher crossover

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snitchesnsneeds · 2 months

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After too much stalling, I finally finished the other half of Miraculous Season 2. Here's my thoughts episode-by-episode:

Zombizou: The episode focused on Ms. Bustier. Honestly I get where she's coming from in that statement to Marinette. This is a world where people can become butt-ugly abominations because they felt upset, although I think Chloe still needs consequences for her actions as well as something like positive reinforcement. She had plenty consequences in season 1. Speaking of Chloe, That Asshole was wrong. There was clear intent for Chloedemption. Also could we at least have seen all that stuff Ms. Bustier does in previous episodes?

Syren: This was an episode the salters talked loads about, and honestly, I get where Adrien's coming from here. On a fundamental level the Ladybug and Black Cat miraculi aren't equals due to the Ladybug's magic reset button, but as one of the first Miraculous users, Adrien should've still been let in on the loop. Kid felt like he was useless, that Ladybug could save the day without his help. At the very least have Master Fu go one-on-one or have both kids show up while transformed or blindfolded. Also the water voices ticked me off, but that's relatively minor.

Frightningale: A fun character-of-the-week episode, especially since I'm fond of Clara Nightingale's constant rhymes and rhythm. She's dedicated to it and I love it. It's also good to see Chloe be an exceptional and talented dancer! It's good to see her having talents and interests that aren't just making people suffer!

Troublemaker: Another episode showing why I think Marinette and Adrien shouldn't date in any of their forms. I don't know enough about stalker shrines but I think Marinette's room is getting close enough to be one for Adrien. Though I'm pretty sure Adrien's seen worse or has been conditioned to not care, based on his reaction at the end. Still a shame that the local TV show had to live-film Marinette's room and beach her privacy in the local city-town of Paris while the real Paris has been converted to an amusement park for tourists. You got any other reasons why the population is so low? One more thing: I'm pretty sure the lack of ladybug-vision was more due to anxiety over losing one of her earrings and the difficulty of the villain more than anything else.

Anansi: I find the new heroes good, personally. They give more screentime to other characters. Also again with Adrien's insecurity about being useful. And I think this episode would've been over sooner if they noticed that Anansi was going to get herself akumatized over the stress and maybe just let her come or something. Or if they got Marinette to arm-wrestle her instead. Marinette has muscles, right?

Sandboy: A lore episode, mostly. The nightmares were funny for a second and I was a bit annoyed by the Akuma's voice, but that's small potatoes. I like how compared to season 1, where we would be given a bunch of development for Sandboy it's just explained to us afterwards while we instead get more time for lore.

Style Queen: Hawkmoth has a contender for the most evil character in the show. Audrey Bourgeois is the kind of person that would be made fun of in those Karen freakout videos. She cheats on her husband, neglects her daughter to the point of not remembering her name, fires people over the most minor inconveniences, and starts G-rated killing people over getting a seat in the second row. She needs to be cancelled, deplatformed, and Chloe needs a therapist and better role models. I really liked the split-second of Adrien looking shocked after Marinette told him he had the catwalk down, btw. Did he think his identity was outed there?

Queen Wasp: This is why teenagers shouldn't get superpowers. I get secondhand embarrassment watching them. Also Marinette What The Fuck why the Hell are you getting Chloe to bond with the Absolute Worst Person For Her

Maledictator: This is what happens when you make Chloe bond with a Chernobyl-level toxic influence, Marinette. In general this episode was funny, both intentionally and unintentionally. Everyone starts celebrating Chloe ditching Paris with her mother except Adrien because Chloe was her only friend even though she was a detriment to everyone else and suddenly Marinette feels bad because she worships Adrien. The first thing the villain of the week does is make Audrey stop being such a horrible person and later he made Chat Noir reach the limit of catboyness. It's like a Smiling Friends episode. Also it was cool to see Chloe's depths and self-loathing. Surely that won't be forgotten and Chloe will be given therapy so she can become a better person, right?

Reverser (Put here so it makes sense timeline-wise): It's Yaoi time. Except that Nathaniel is into Ladybug (who I assume he knows is Marinette) here and Marc is fine with that. Overall a good episode. Some nice humor, and Reverser's probably the best akuma design so far I love the paper stuff. Plus more info on the side characters and a spot of good humor, excellent!

Frozer: Ah, there's the Nathmarc. And explicit Julerose. And Marinette getting some idea that her fantasy of Adrien is unhealthy and shouldn't be followed. And Adrigami, albeit a bit one-sided. Quit pining over someone who doesn't love you and get with someone who does, kid. And a smidgeon of Marigami. And Adrien's bodyguard being his daddy in place of his father. And a pinch of me seeing what the salters were talking about with the girlsquad and them forcing Marinette and Adrien together. Or at least Alya and Mylene. I couldn't hear what Alix, Juleka, and Rose were saying, but they disagreed, right? At least one of them had to disagree, right?

Heroes' Day Two-Parter: Marinette you're being too hotheaded against Lila no you gotta be like Columbo. Also yet another Marinette Costanza moment. Otherwise not much to say here. It's the boss rush episode, it's the series finale, Alya managed to catch onto Nino being Carapace but still can't seem to connect the dots between Ladybug and Marinette, the Peacock Miraculous is introduced, and Natalie is on my suslist.

I might procrastinate again on the first half of season 3. The first episode deserves a post of it's own. It's the salt episode.

#miraculous ladybug #miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir #marinette dupain cheng #miraculous marinette #adrien agreste #miraculous adrien #ml salt #chloe bourgeois #miraculous chloe #alya cesaire #miraculous alya #miraculous #lukanette #adrigami #nathmarc

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toxinellebug · 4 months

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Shadybug/Claw Noir Christmas PART 1

HEAD CANON TIME!

You know that Xmas in Paris with those two on the loose wouldn’t be a Silent Night.

I imagine the nightly curfew to be indoors would still be in effect, even during the holidays, but that wouldn’t stop people from having holiday parties provided their guests stay overnight… And what better party could there be than the Bourgeois Christmas Gala, held at the Le Grand Paris Hotel? An extravagant and EXCLUSIVE black tie event for the richest/most influential people and Celebrities in Paris! There’s dancing and dining and only the BEST decorations money can buy! And THIS year, Chloe plans to make it an unforgettable event where she will kiss her Adrikins under the mistletoe, and she even had her daddy invite news photographers to document the whole thing so she can rub it in the smug face of that Lila Rossi who had the AUDACITY to suggest that she and Adrien should spend time together over winter break since this year she wouldn’t be going to her Uncle’s ski-lodge in the Swiss Alps, due to re-modeling.

This will prove once and for all that Adrien is HERS, and the riff-raff should all back off!

Chloe was sooo nice, she even made Daddy hire Adrien’s favorite bakery to cater all the baked goods for the party… Provided that loser Dupain-Cheng doesn’t step foot inside and infect the place with her lameness.

It’s a brilliant, fool-proof plan to make this THE. BEST. CHRISTMAS. EVER!

…Adrien is convinced this is the WORST Christmas ever. Scratch that, CHRISTMAS is the worst ever!

It’s the first winter without his mom, and the Bourgeois’ had the nerve to invite him to a PARTY? For WHAT? So he can force himself to laugh at celebrities’ lame jokes, and begrudgingly waltz with rich people’s daughters who can barely avoid stepping on the hem of their gaudy, sparkly dresses, drink sparkling cider and play hokey, out-dated party games and pretend he’s having fun?!

His mother is GONE, and he’s supposed to just act like everything is Merry and Bright?? Thankfully, his father has already turned down the invitation. He’ll probably be chewed out by Audrey for missing this golden opportunity to show off his new formal winter collection though.

Gabriel promised him that they didn’t have to do any sort of Holiday appearance or event. Which is perfect because Adrien doesn’t think he could manage to smile for any cameras right now… But he still can’t believe his father wants to celebrate at all?? What is there to celebrate?? His father actually put up a tree! And asked him to help him put on the ornaments… Just like they did with mom every year. Does he seriously expect them to just decorate the tree like nothing has changed? What’s next? They watch cheesy old xmas movies while snacking on cinnamon cookies and Les Papillotes and then eat Father’s greasy fried cooking for dinner at Midnight? Were they just going to pretend everything was fine and just the same as always???

How could it be christmas without Mom to tie lopsided red ribbons just to tease father before adding way too much Cheveux d’ange to the tree? How is it christmas without mom’s cheeks turning pink from too much vin chaud while watching “L'assassinat du Père Noël”? How is it christmas without her singing along to the carols on her vinyl record player as they set the table while Father is so focused on the Amandine and the fried bugnes that he lets the Turkey burn?

It WON’T be the same, and he doesn’t want it! He just wants to lock himself in his room and wait for this miserable day to be over!

Gabriel is hurt, but Nooru suggests that Adrien needs his space so he shouldn’t insist- it will only push him farther away. Gabriel knows the holidays will never be the same, but he has hope that they could still be special even if it’s just the two of them now… But, only when Adrien is ready.

But Adrien isn’t going to be ready… In fact, Adrien had an idea- an AWFUL idea. Adrien had a wonderful, awful idea: Why should HE be the only one who is miserable?

Claw Noir would turn this Holy Night into a Massacre! He’d smash every window full of holly, and each and every wreath he could find would serve as kindling when he burned the giant tree in the center of Place de la Concorde to the ground! He wouldn’t be satisfied until everyone in Paris was as miserable as him!!!

…There was no one in Paris more miserable than Marinette.

Christmas was always a busy time for the bakery; Bûche de Noël, Biscuits de Noël, Pain d'épices, Pompe à l'huile, Oreillettes, sables au cumin, and SO. MANY. CINNAMON. COOKIES.

But THIS year, in addition to the usual amount of fare for regular customers, they had been given a huge order to fill for the Bourgeois Christmas Gala; they wanted EVERYTHING, and despite their exclusive guest list, they seemed to want enough to feed all of Paris! Which meant that most of it would end up going to waste in the trash once the party was over.

The party that her PARENTS would have to attend in order to deliver and serve the guests, which meant that they would be spending all of Christmas Eve and into Christmas morning at the Hotel, while Marinette stayed at home…. Alone.

All because of that selfish, vile Chloe Bourgeois- even if they are no longer in the same class, that witch STILL finds a way to take EVERYTHING from Marinette, now even her own parents??? …No, not just Chloe. It’s also the fault of that spoiled Adrien Agreste! Apparently Mr. Super Model is an extremely picky eater, which meant it HAD to be her parent’s bakery that catered the Gala, because whatever Agreste wants, Agreste GETS. Those two truly were a perfect pair.

After being forced to help bake and run the register all day, Marinette is now alone on her rooftop balcony, freezing cold but at least she can finally escape the oppressive odor of cinnamon that has saturated her whole house. She hates cinnamon. She hates Chloe Bourgeois and Adrien Agreste. But most of all, she HATES CHRISTMAS!

Thanks to Enforcers patrolling the streets to make sure Parisians are inside after dark, the city is silent, save for the tinkling of glass being smashed.

Windows are broken, snowmen are toppled, and wreaths are snatched as Claw Noir makes his way towards the main public square; Chestnuts roasting on an open fire? How about a raging inferno instead?!

An old man watches from his window- he is alone on the Holidays, as always. No family to spend festivities with, no Christmas feasts with 13 desserts to distract him. All he has is nostalgia and memories of the christmases of his youth, back when he was still just a boy, back when this holiday was still about GIVING, back when people still told stories of Santa Claus before it was considered fanatical socialist propaganda, back before… The Supreme.

Christmas these days is nothing like the old days. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t still precious!

He can’t get a clear view of whatever miscreant is causing the damage from his window, but he can see the path of destruction left behind. And he knows that even though the Enforcers will no doubt hunt down and punish that ne'er-do-wel, they will not bother to clean up or repair the damage.

Who would do such an awful thing? If only there was SOMETHING he could do to help…

He doesn’t notice the faerie white butterfly that passes through his window, unfettered by the glass, and lands on his knitted hat.

But he DOES hear the voice; soothing and gentle inside his head, emphasizing with his concern over the wanton destruction, sharing his desire to bring back the true meaning of Christmas. The Voice offers him a gift- one that will allow him to bring peace and joy back to those affected by the vandal, and prove that this night is still one of hope. The voice asks, very politely, if the man will accept this gift in the name of the greater good?

The man accepts, and the voice grants him a new name… “Father Christmas.”

Claw Noir is whistling a casual tune, twirling a candy cane he stole from a window display in his fingers in one hand, and flicking away the remains of shredded ribbon from his claws in the other, when he hears the sound of sobbing.

His route of mayhem has lead him to “Tom and Sabine’s Bakery/Boulangerie” the place where that pretty girl with the dark hair in pigtails works.

Said pretty girl is on the roof, completely unaware of his presence, too busy crying her eyes out.

Once more, he feels that this girl is probably the only one in all of Paris who he can relate to. Alone and miserable… he doesn’t know what pain she’s going through to leave her out on a snow-covered rooftop where no one (but him) can witness her tears, but somehow it is oddly comforting to know that he isn’t the only one… that they are kindred spirits in a way. Having someone else hate Christmas as much as him makes the pain somehow more bearable…

Are those sleigh-bells?? Where the heck is the sound of sleigh-bells coming from?!

Something catches his eye, and Claw Noir can’t believe what he sees… He can’t even figure out WHAT he sees…

Some old fat guy in a tacky red suit is flying- ACTUALLY FLYING- in a sleigh being pulled by reindeer for some reason?! What is that even supposed to BE?? Just how much mulled wine has the butterfly man had???

Weirdness aside, that fat freak is ruining all of Claw Noir’s work! As the sleigh flies over houses, broken windows vanish and are replaced with shiny new glass adorned with bright red bows. New Wreaths with sparkling gold and silver berries seem to actually sprout on doors, and tiny, wrapped gift boxes seem to rain down to rest at each door mat.

And the geezer is headed straight towards the Place de la Concorde!

Oh NO he doesn’t! Claw Noir has a good pile of stolen kindling going around that tree and NOTHING is going to stop him from torching that sucker! He gives chase.

The sound of bells and old man laughter makes Marinette wipe away her tears and look up just in time to catch a tiny wrapped box. Opening it, she finds a smiling gingerbread cookie holding a peppermint stick. She scowls before snapping off the cookie’s head.

Betterfly… that tears it!

Marinette transforms into Shadybug, crunches the peppermint stick HARD between her teeth before summoning her Lucky Charm- a shoulder mounter missile launcher, just right for blowing magic sleighs out of the sky!

The butterfly miraculous will make the perfect christmas gift for The Supreme.

But first, she’s gonna annihilate that bearded tub of lard who mocked her with friggin’ cookies!!!

Obviously Betterfly can’t let his new ally who laughs like a bowl full of jelly be blown to smithereens or be torn to shreds. He must help fend off Shadybug and Claw Noir to save Christmas and return home before Adrien comes down from his room (or that suspicious bodyguard notices something is up)

Meanwhile, Chloe is miserable! She has a brand new golden ballgown, diamond covered shoes, her hair is even MORE amazing than usual, and Adrikins isn’t here to tell her how gorgeous she is! CHRISTMAS IS RUINED! This is all her Daddy’s fault! Audrey agrees; the invitations SHOULD have been engraved, not embossed, and gold foil borders on linen paper? What is this, the 90’s?? Anything but glitter infused envelopes is just tacky! And WHERE are the solid crystal champagne flutes she requested?! No wonder Gabriel and Agreste Junior didn’t show- this whole Gala is turning out to be ridiculous, utterly ridiculous! Andre has no wish list, but as for New Year’s resolutions, he plans to take up drinking.

PART 2

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vavandeveresfan · 6 months

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The MLB writers really hated Chloe.

I haven't watched many episodes of MLB after Season 2, because I hate pretty much everything the show did.

One thing in particular is how they treated Chloe Bourgeois.

MLB set her up as Marinette's nemesis and the school's worst bully. But in Season 2 the writers gave us reason to understand why Chloe has issues. They even had her ask a question that very few adults can bring themselves to ask.

I love the way they had her hesitate. In this scene we see a sad, lonely child.

The writers could have had all kinds of interesting ideas come from this. It'd be unrealistic for Chloe to be healed immediately, especially with Audrey being the self-centered bitch she is. But they could have explored the girl trying and failing and trying again to be a better person, and even Audrey making in-roads to a better relationship with her daughter, then slipping back to her callousness. It'd keep the audience wondering what would happen with Chloe, perhaps even cheering her on to find redemption.

But no. The series completely hated her guts, and turned her into a shallow caricature, rotten and irredeemable.

vimeo

I was curious what the writers did to her before everything in the world was reset after The Wish. It was even worse than I thought. Not only is Audrey an utter monster who now has control of Chloe, but Chloe, rather than reaching out to the one person who's very good and asking for forgiveness and help, she chooses to attempt to make that good person feel horrible and to make her suffer.

In the same way, the writers wanted Chloe to suffer.

I want to ask the writers, and especially Thomas Astruc

I know it's a kids show, and often characters are cardboard cutouts with no depth. But in Season 2, as the clip shows, originally the writers began to give Chloe some depth. We saw she understood the most painful thing a child can know, that one of her parents doesn't love her. Even so, she desperately wants to win that love, just as children do in real life. We have reason to sympathize with her, and to hope that if Audrey never cares about her daughter Chloe can someday break free from her need for her. She didn't have to stay the spoiled bully the entire series.

But after Season 2 the writers decided Chloe was going to be a flat, one-note character till the end. It was lazy writing.

Season 2 Chloe deserved better.

#Chloe Bourgeois #miraculous ladybug #lazy writing #ml #mlb #mlb S2 #miraculous #Audrey Bourgeois #Miraculous S5 #Miraculous Revolution

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grahamdefamily · 1 year

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Round 1: Audrey Bourgeois vs Emilie Agreste

#worstmlbadult #audrey bourgeois #emilie agreste #miraculous ladybug

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miraculouscriticismshub · 6 months

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Disclaimer : I don't really think Emelie and Amelie are bad parents but I might as well put them in any way

#miraculous ladybug #mlb #mlb season five #mlb salt #mlb season 5 spoilers #mlb writers salt #astruc salt #chloe deserves better #kagami derserves better #emelie agreste #audrey bourgeois #amelie graham de vanily #tomoe tsurugi #nathalie sancouer

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generalluxun · 1 year

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Show and Tell, MLB style.

There's an interesting dichotomy in two MLB storylines that highlights, within the same show, these two approaches and the relative values of each. I am not here to litigate the value of the characters or the outcomes, only the presentation of specific elements within the show.

These characters are Chloé Bourgeois and Felix Fathom. The subject? Abuse

Okay, now that most have left...

Chloé brings us 'show' specifically season 2. The execution of Style Queen was exemplary. We had a pattern for Chloé by now, we knew her(we thought) and what made her tick. Then boom, Audrey drops. In two episodes it redefines everything. There's no moment anyone looks into the camera and says 'abuse' and yet in the animation, the voices, the storyboarding it is all laid out. From cringing, to wheedling, to the interactions between her father and her mother, to the fact that even at the end the very worst she could lay at her mother's feet was 'Why don't you love me?'

It's a victim portrait painted in vivid detail. It expands petty bullying into the larger cycle of abused becoming abuser and the cycle of violence. Whatever else you think on either side of this story it is in isolation, magnificent.

Contrast this then with Felix's presentation. From minor antagonist, to straight up villain(seemingly) to third party villainy, to misunderstood antihero perhaps?(time will tell) there is a lot to unpack with Felix, definitely. Yet the abuse segment of his story is: a line. One line. 'my father was a thousand times worse.' and that is all. We don't know how, or why, or what effects it has on Felix. Maybe will will in time but for now it is simply a check box. 'and also, abuse.' It provides us no insight, no context. Even a single line, with more thought, could put so much more into the moment.

'My mother protected me, and now I want to protect you.'

This instantly paints a more detailed picture. It helps align why Felix is so bold, and why Amilie is so timid in regards to him. It gives that super deep connection they have (despite his other antisocial tendencies) a little more context.

So that's my ramble. Something they did well, and something they did poorly.

#mlb spoilers #felix fathom #chloe bourgeois #child abuse #writing #show don't tell #miraculous ladybug

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howhow326 · 6 months

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ML X BNHA au Part 3!

Part 1 here

Part 2 here

Lê Chiên Kim/ Roi Singe

Quirk: Uproar (Whenever Kim touches someone with all five fingers of his hand, that person's quirk goes completely out of control for five minuets!)

Kim is a star swimmer from Vietnam and an up and coming pro hero student... those are mostly his only good qualities. Back home, Kim was really know for the jokes he played on his other classmates. Some of them were just harmless pranks. Some of them were Kim using his quirk on other students, causing massive mayhem.

Kim's best friends: Max, Eijiro, Denki

Zoé Lee/ Vesperia

Quirk: Wasp (Zoe can do anything a wasp can! Including wings on her back that allow her to fly, antenna on her head that she can use sense smells outside the human range, and fingernails that are made out of the same material as a wasps stinger.)

Zoé Lee is the daughter of the dead rich man Mr. Lee and the world famous fashion designer / Pro Hero, Audrey Bourgeois. Her whole life, her mother molded Zoé into her image: a "proper" evil rich woman. Zoé kept up the act for most of her life, even making friends with the vilest rich kids imaginable. But everything changed when Zoé fell in love with a 'common' girl. Her friends shunned her, and her mother decided to get her out of the picture by sending her away to U.A. But Zoé will have her revenge, she knows that her mother is making deals with villains in exchange for wealth. Now, she just needs to learn how to prove it.

Zoe' friend: Shoto

Rose Lavillant/ Princess Fragrance

Quirk: Perfume (Rose's body emits a natural perfume that she can use to change other people's emotions. She mainly uses her quirk to stun people with happiness.)

Rose Lavillant is another exchange student from France and Juleka's girlfrend. She has an inherited illness but is properly medicated for hero work and is surrounded by love from her family and girlfriend. Rose is a bi lebebad. Rose is a bi lessbien... Rose like Juleka.

Rose's best friends: Juleka, Ochako, Mina

Juleka Couffaine/ Tigress Pourpre

Quirk: Tigress (Juleka can do anything a tiger can! Including be big and punch scratch people to death!)

Juleka Couffaine is the daughter of Anarka Couffaine, the ex wife of pro hero Jagged Stone and mother of Luka Couffaine. Juleka barely knows her brother because her father took him away. Juleka dosen't have many friends at school except her girlfriend Rose. All her life, Juleka feels like she was background character... but now, a change. Juleka is attending U.A. far away from home with her girlfriend and is finnaly going to spend time with her brother! Nothing could ruin this... except Chloe & Sabrina being there.

Juleka's best friends: Rose, Luka, Kyoka, Fumikage

Sabrina Raincomprix/ Vanisher

Quirk: Vanish (By relaxing her vocal cords, Sabrina can turn her body invisible. She can also extend her invisibility to objects she touches.)

Sabrina Raincomprix is the daughter of the police chief of Paris and best friends with Chloe Bourgeois. Once, they were equals, real best friends. But Chloe's quirk & her father changed her for the worst. She began seeing the people around her as tools to mock and laugh at. Sabrina mocked them too, laughed at them too, liked bullying the others with her best friend... until Chloe started bullying her. Chloe thinks that without her, Sabrina has nothing. But Sabrina knows that without her, Chloe is the one that has nothing. Blowing up her dad's life savings so she can attend U.A. along with the blonde, Sabrina is determined to make Chloe her real best friend again, even if it means making her feel worthless... or making everyone else feel worthless.

Sabrina's best friend: Chloe

#ml x bnha #mlb x bnha #ml x mha #miraculous ladybug #le chien kim #kim le chien #zoe lee #zoe deserves better #rose lavillant #juleka couffaine #juleka x rose #sabrina raincomprix #ml kim salt #couldnt help myself #not me making Sabrina girlboss villain who wants to get back at the person who wronged her

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worst-mother-throwdown · 3 months

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BRACKET 1

Round 3

TW: child abuse, verbal abuse, child neglect, child abandonment

Aubrey Bourgeois propaganda

Mrs. Doofenschmirz propaganda

#worst mother throwdown #worst fictional mother throwdown #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #audrey bourgeois #phineas and ferb #tw child abuse #tw verbal abuse #tw child neglect #tw child abandonment

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lackadaisy-world · 11 months

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CHARACTERS I HATE IN MIRACULOUS LADYBUG

(List might grow as I unfortunately rewatch the series)

4-tomoe tsurugi: even though she lets kagami have a friend and her safety, she pretty tries to control her life

3- Audrey bourgeois: the worst mother in the show, she don’t care about her daughters at all especially Chloe

2- Gabriel Agreste: before his wife dad, there are hints he was a good father but now he is not and is the worst of the worsts, not caring about Adrien’s feelings at all, maybe the beginning he was worried about his safety but the man became insane with power

1- Lila Rossi/cerise: is unknown what is her real name but boy she is the worst character as well the most mysterious, her lying is so annoying especially when people around are stupid enough to believe her, is was so annoying to see her and making marinette s life miserable and is unknown how she not caught living different lives , especially how somehow lied to 3 different mothers that she is her daughter

#miraculous ladybug #ml spoilers #zagtoon #lila rossi #ml cerise #gabriel agreste #shadow moth #monarch #hawk moth #tomoe tsurugi #audrey bourgeois

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galahadwilder · 1 year

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The Time I Got Reincarnated as an Evil Version of Myself

Chapter 2: Solitude

My AO3 is linked in my bio.

After Catalyst, Chloé’s life only got better. Now a full-time superhero, she managed to finally make new friends, forging bonds with the other members of her team. She’d repaired her relationships with her father and Sabrina, fallen in love, and welcomed a surprise sister with open arms.

Then she wakes up in a world where none of that happened. Where, after Catalyst, she only got worse, and lonelier, and more and more bitter.

The canon timeline, in fact. Or something close to it.

Chloé is the only one who remembers the other world. Her friends hate her, her relationships are destroyed, even her girlfriend has barely ever spoken to her. But that’s okay. Whether good or evil, Chloé Bourgeois has never—and WILL never—let anything stop her.

The feeling of Hawkmoth’s touch on her mind is hauntingly, nauseatingly familiar. She can feel him, rooting around in her emotions as if her were taking a shovel to her guts. Everywhere his influence touches, she feels deep, deep hurt well up, hurt that she'd thought long buried. One sickening caress from his tendrils and suddenly she’s five again, watching her mother leave. A flick, and she’s fourteen, seeing Adrien laughing with Nino, with Marinette, with Kagami, with someone else. A menacingly gentle stroke, and she’s eight, smacking Marinette’s macarons to the ground and not understanding why she wants to cry when the other girl bursts into tears.

She’s sixteen, and her mother reveals a whole other daughter who has seen more of Audrey in the last four months than Chloé has in a decade.

She’s ten, and she hasn’t seen her father outside of official functions since her mother left, hoping, hoping that maybe this year her birthday will be something other than empty gifts and strange grown-ups who don’t even look at her.

She’s fifteen, and her father falls silent when she tells him she is in love with a woman. She does not tell her mother.

And all the while, as he’s dredging up her worst memories, her own voice whispers in her ear—alone, alone, I’m alone, I’m all alone. Everybody leaves. They leave because I’m not good enough to make them stay.

It hurts, pushing against that voice, against those memories. Against the certainty that she has been abandoned, again. It’s like the migraine from this morning, only a thousand times sharper, and thousand times hotter, but she has to, she has to push, she has to speak—

“Run,” she snaps at the stunned Marinette, still trembling on the floor across from her. Marinette cannot be here when Chloé transforms. She has no idea what her power will be, but if Marinette gets hit first it’s game over.

”Chloé…?” Marinette says, straightening. Her eyes are full of concern, because of course they are, it’s Marinette, Chloé would expect nothing less, but god damn it the girl needs to be selfish right now and get clear—

“RUN!” Chloé screams, kicking the bathroom door open as best she can from her awkward position on the floor.

She barely manages to hold him off long enough to see Marinette leap to her feet and barrel out of the bathroom. As soon as the pink flats vanish behind the cheap birch, darkness takes her, and she’s floating in a black-purple void.

Miss Bourgeois, Hawkmoth says. Cast aside by everyone in your life. Nobody cares about poor little Chloé. She hears a sick smile in his voice. I care about you.

She’s enthralled, she’s sinking, but the part of her that’s still aware barely manages to avoid vomiting at the violation his words, his tone, imply.

There are other parts, though. One part of her wants to give up, to stop fighting, to sink into despair and just let Hawkmoth win. To let him do the hard parts. To let him take the pain.

The other part of her just wants to burn.

I am giving you the power to lock all those who defy you into unbreakable diamond, he continues. Nobody will ever leave you again.

You know what I want by now.

”Yes, Hawkmoth,” she whispers to the void, shaking. She’s not sure if she’s standing or sitting, if she’s there or here, if she’s trapped in her own mind or she’s still on the bathroom floor. But there’s one thing that catches her mind, throws her off.

Why diamond?

The last coherent part of her mind ticks away at that one question. The powers are always thematic, always related to the trigger. But she hasn’t done anything related to diamonds all day. She’s just—

Wait a minute. Princess Solitaire.

Princess cut. Card suits.

It’s a pun.

The laugh starts deep in her stomach, bubbling up through her chest like a clogged toilet before erupting from her mouth in a bomb blast of mad, almost feral cackling. It's not so much that the pun is funny—it's clever, sure, but there's little humor in it. But the sheer absurdity of it, the incongruity of getting smacked in the face with a pun when everything in her is drowning—

It's an anchor. She focuses, and suddenly the parts of her that want to surrender, to burn, are just that much quieter, that much easier to ignore. She focuses on that laughter, on the light. It feels so much like Adrien.

It's chemistry class, and she's just casually insulted Rose's fashion sense. It's barely a moment before she sees tears welling up in Rose's eyes, and she realizes that, while doubling down on the insult will make her feel less guilty, it won't help Rose. Apologizing is hard, harder than she ever expected it would be—she has to force it out, and it comes out stuttered, incoherent. She's tearing up herself by the end of it. But then Rose's eyes are full of hope and wonder instead of pain, and then Adrien's hand is on her shoulder.

"I'm proud of you, Chloé," Adrien tells her, and Chloé shatters.

It's the night of one of her mother's parties, and Audrey has spent the evening alternatively ignoring her or telling her that she wished Marinette was her daughter instead. She ducks out of the party early for the first time, running somewhere, anywhere, and finds herself at the bakery—the first place she could think to flee. Marinette is holding her, not even caring that Chloé's tears and snot are ruining the shoulder of her jacket.

"You're safe here," Marinette insists, and Chloé can only sob harder, because she believes it.

She's shaking on a fire escape, having narrowly escaped evisceration by another of Kagami's Akuma forms—by another Akuma that she provoked with a careless word. Ladybug and Chat are busy looking after Kagami, making sure she's okay, but Alya is sitting with her. Watching her. Chloé apologizes—there's no way that she's the person Alya wants to spend time with—only for the girl to take her hand.

"You're a bitch, but you're our bitch," Alya says, grinning, and Chloé feels her heart lift.

"Sisters?" Zoé says, holding out her hand.

"Thank you. For... apologizing," Sabrina manages, blushing, withdrawing into herself.

"We knew you weren't all bad," Alix smirks, punching her in the shoulder.

"It feels better, right?" Ivan says, meaty hand on her shoulder.

"I am... not unaware of the progress you have made," Kagami tells her, averting her eyes.

Well, Solitaire? Hawkmoth says.

She breathes in, carefully holding her knees against her chest. The void is... gone. She didn't realize she'd been pushing it back, forcing it to retreat with every memory she'd wielded like a baseball bat against the tides. She's back in the bathroom, still sitting in the same position. Still covered in plastic dust, dirty water soaking her clothes. The glowing mask still sizzling across her cheeks and forehead. It smells like ozone and burning meat.

You never have to be alone again.

She's not. She's not alone. She hasn't been for a long, long time.

Breathe out. Breathe in.

"Eat my entire ass."

Surprise, confusion, and indignation crash through the psychic link, burning inside her brain. He nearly gasps like a Victorian novel heroine. I... excuse me?

"Whole thing," Chloé says, nodding. It's satisfying, the realization that she's caught him so off guard in so many ways. "Just give it a good chew. Get some teeth in there." Carefully, negligibly, so as not to alert him, she shuffles sideways across the floor, feeling cold linoleum and broken plastic against her palms as she shifts herself away from the door, the one entrance to the room, so as not to block Ladybug out with her body.

Madamoiselle Bourgeois! Hawkmoth shrieks. You will do as I bid, or I will—

She reaches deep into her chest, grabs the feeling of Kagami's lips on hers, the feeling of warmth and safety and home, and pushes, slamming her superior will into his and snapping the connection clean in two. The mask explodes from her face, sending a pulse of energy across the room that activates every hand dryer at once, knocking her backward into the stall doors and slamming pain through her spine.

A flash of red bursts through the door. Ladybug, her yo-yo spinning, stares at her, stunned, as the air blowers drone in the background.

"Chloé?" she says. Chloé isn't sure whether that emotion in her voice is incredulity, pride, or concern, but Chloé thinks she likes it.

Enjoying it, though, will have to wait.

Chloé, dumped on the filthy bathroom floor, her whole body creaking with pain, gives Ladybug a weak smile. "Hi, Ladybug," she croaks. "I'd like to go to the nurse's office, please."

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#miraculous ladybug #original content #my fic #chloe bourgeois #that time i got reincarnated as an evil version of myself #chloe redemption #marinette dupain cheng #otome isekai #isekai #reborn as a villainess #hawkmoth #ml fic #chlogami #homophobia mention #depression

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