#elias's biases

[fromtheseventhhell]

Saying this an Elia Martell fan from what little we know of her, but I'm really sick of how fandom sees her as nothing but a perpetual victim and/or hater of Lyanna and Rhaegar. Where's fandom content of her being kind to baby Tyrion or headcanons of her plotting with Rhaegar against Aerys? Makes me wish GRRM would write more Fire and Blood books to flesh her out more outside of the "pretty victim" fanon Sansa stans want her to be.

It's actually so frustrating cause there are great conversations + theorizing that could be going on surrounding her character because we know we're going to be learning more about her in the future, but a lot of her "fans" are just stuck on using her as a prop. And honestly? That's because the more we learn about her, the more she moves away from being fandom's favorite passive self-insert character. If George has her doing anything it breaks their idea of her being the perfect victim which is what they love about her. They don't even like her character organically, they just like that it gives them a justification to hate Rhaegar and/or Lyanna. I'm personally neutral-positive about Elia, but I am very interested in learning more about her character. George has kept that portion of the story intentionally vague for a reason and I can't wait to see why.

#ask #anon #elia martell #neutral positive in that I have empathy for Elia and want to learn more about her but I can't really say I love her character #because I just don't feel like we know enough about her and I'm not a huge fan of filling the gaps in with headcanons #I'm neutral-neutral about Rhaegar because to me his actions + motivations aren't as fleshed out as Lyanna's so I can't really make #a judgement until will learn more...I'm interested in that but for now my goodwill for him comes from him and Dany being literary mirrors #I might be biased but I just feel like we have a better sense of Lyanna's character because of Arya + Ned's thoughts on her #I can theorize about her actions/reactions in a way that I can't with Rhaegar #but if you go into any of their tags it's full of people making statements as factual without anything to back it up

[gorvamp]

hello all. (checks notes) 10.? other members of the wizardess heart fandom. i offer thee some s1 doodles because, despite my better judgement, it is my favorite and i love these stupid gayass guys

also realized i have a couple of wh doodles i made before using tumblr, so. here they are as well 🫡

#shall we date #shall we date wizardess heart #elias goldstein #yukiya reizen #luca orlem #klaus goldstein #. serge is also there but i dont know if i feel like taggin him #OH. also my elias design is based off of an au i have with my sibling. that shits not canon #it should be canon tho. (<-<-<- horrifically biased)

[harimenui-forever]

Quick question

Should I make a side blog for reblogging old tma art? So people can discover what was and we can get old art circulating again? I think I'd tag the characters or like have a tagging system so it'd be easy to navigate

#tma #magpod #the magnus archives #for the record I am a bit biased when it comes to depictions of elias lol

[mostdivorcedcharacterspoll]

Round 2, Bracket 3

#sorry im gonna be biased. spirit is so pathetic you have to give him this one #soul eater #spirit albarn #the magnus archives #peter lukas #elias bouchard #round 2

[runefells]

#elias bouchard #the magnus archives #tma #poll #since i know my elias is in the minority with being cleanshaven lol im curious #ofc poll is biased since its my followers but whatever yunno #croaks #i wish u had more options for poll length ugh

[sansahightower]

Me: I’m going to try to be fair to all of the women of Westeros and if I cannot, I just won’t talk about that one 🌸🥰🌸🥰🌸🥰🌸

Daemon or Viserys chews food in an annoying way: AND THATS WHY THEY SHOULD BE SENT STRAIGHT TO JAIL RIGHT AWAY

#I’m sorry I have my biases #lol no I’m not #I’m a septa of the Westerosi women’s rights movement #which is a complicated relationship with the faith ngl #but it sounded good #hotd #got #alicent hightower #cersei lannister #sansa stark #melisandre #rhaenyra #olenna tyrell #margaery tyrell #arya stark #catelyn stark #ellaria sand #elia martell

[nerice]

>goes in my ykm blogging tag

>literally every post is abt needing to reread / engi/(yui) lol

#elia txts #ykm blogging #honestly the anime also fucked even tho it went super off the rails. art style was <3 #mostly rly rly just bc they went hard as hell on the engi showdowns ok BIASED #im having a morning <3

[ars0nism]

Can you see what I see?

#tma #ok before i go on a rant about the impera tma connection in my mind #ive had this idea since impera dropped. #i have been sitting here with this concept for months. #is it good?? i dont know. im too biased. i think it looks alright on smaller thumbnails. dont try to look for details #i think its ugly but again. artists bias #ANYWAY #when impera released i was right at the beginning of my tma special interest #so yeah ! ghost & tma. shoutout to the maybe other three people who like both #watcher in the sky is the obvious one i mean come ON. s5. #literally the watcher in the sky #dathoml as an elias/peter song. #griftwood ?? i can make that about tma #wait let me pull up the lyrics #yeah i can make griftwood into a tma song #do not let me listen to respite when im thinking about tma. 'nothing ever lasts forever we will go softly into the night' #makes me think about jmart #about the finale specifically #one day ill be able to draw that specific image too #yeah kaisarion can be made about s5 too #spillways too #spillways can be about jonah & jon. #ive thought about this so much. #actually now that im looking at it i think the colors are different. like depending on what screen im looking at it on #maybe its just the tumblr pumpkin theme. i dont know. #color theory makes me want to murder someone #i dont know how to draw arms btw. i bullshitted my way through all of this #yeah the hearteyes might take away from the 'seriousness' of the piece. dont care didnt ask #if you dont like the green heart eyes youre wrong. youre just wrong. #im so so normal about all of this

[samamakhalid]

If we're all in concurance that Martin's experiences definitely aged him horribly and possibly marked him with some white in his hair, then by all rights any time travel fic where S5 Martin waltzes into the archive should immediately result in S1 Martin drop kicking the man he believes is his absent father.

"But but but Elias said Martin doesn't remember his dad with any great clarity" I think youre underestimating this cast's willingness to take a biased, muddied perception and use it to justify suplexing someone for the crimes of bad vibes and wooing his crush with DiReCt cOmMuniCatIoN. let Martin take a bite out of his own still beating heart! he'd get so much poetic material out of the experience!!

#the magnus archives #martin blackwood #tma #tma martin #jonmartin #jon sims #jonathan sims

[thermodynamic-comedian]

i wanna talk about tma characters and the concept of a facade. because i have a lot of thoughts.

so most people understand how ironic it is to characterize martin blackwood as a soft boy that can do no wrong, because one of the most interesting parts of his character is how much of a subversion of that trope he is. he's manipulating people by acting like that. this is addressed in the canon. he wants everyone to like him, and he knows he'll almost always get what he wants if he puts up this facade.

something people talk about a bit less, but is still equally canon, is that gertrude robinson was doing basically the same thing. pretending to be just a boring old woman, when she's actually extremely clever and ruthless. she plays into everyone's pre-existing biases and assumptions masterfully to hide just how competent she really is. she knows exactly what she's doing, and she's willing to sacrifice anything and anyone for the sake of her self-appointed mission. characterizing her as a grandmother figure is the funniest form of irony to me.

but do you know who isn't putting up a facade? do you know who isn't changing their behavior to affect your idea of them?

the older avatars.

peter lukas isn't pretending to be passive-aggressive and overly cheery, he just kind of...is. why would he ever bother putting up a facade? he doesn't want people to like him. his authentic self is this talkative yet asocial man, who specifically aims to be awkward and unlikeable.

people say that simon fairchild's polite and carefree demeanor is an act, but i really don't think that's true either. i guess i might see it differently because i personally resonate the most with the vast out of all the fears, but i really think that a lot of that behavior makes perfect sense for his character. he doesn't think that anything in life matters. his personality reflects the lightness and carefree nature of that mindset. he just doesn't care. he does everything for fun. he's not pretending to be anything he isn't.

this could be me reaching, but honestly, i don't think even jonah magnus is putting up that much of a facade. he's lying, sure. he's manipulating people, obviously. but he's not changing his behavior in order to do that. even in mag 160, there's no big, henry mildmay-esque "dropping of the act" when he has his monologue. if you look at his behavior as elias bouchard, it's exactly the same as the little bits of him that we get to see in s5. the elias whose last words are "good luck" is the exact same elias as the one who always greeted basira with "hello, detective".

humans put up an act. monsters don't bother to.

#now that last part kinda contradicts my other interpretation #but im not gonna get into all that (<- girl who's praying for someone to ask her to get into all that) #not in this post. but a girl can dream #the magnus archives #tma #tma analysis #tma meta #martin blackwood #gertrude robinson #peter lukas #simon fairchild #jonah magnus #elias bouchard #tma spoilers #mag 160

[fromtheseventhhell]

The weird moral outrage surrounding the Targaryens gets even more ridiculous when you know that the majority of it only exists as an extension of the hatred for Daenerys. The more they're related to Dany, the more they're going to get demonized and hated. People have just decided that an entire house is evil and unworthy, going against the actual story, in order to justify their hatred of a single character. And what gets me is that they're so hypocritical about it. Targaryens are always held to a higher standard than everybody else. A character or house could be guilty of the exact same action, or worse, but outrage is always going to be much worse towards whatever Targaryen is involved.

#daenerys targaryen #house targaryen #pro daenerys targaryen #they don't even try to hide how biased they are either it's so funny #see: Rhaegar getting more blame for Elia and their children's deaths then the ones who actually murdered them #trying to make the targaryens out to be especially evil will always be hilarious #I know people have decided that the Starks are the moral center of the world #when their house/history is guilty of a lot of things that people accuse the targaryens of #and even IF the Targaryens were meant to be this great evil I surely wouldn't be judging one character solely based on their house #/Dany finding strength in her house is gonna be her downfall/ when that's something almost every character does

[venusintheblindspots-blog]

More on the dynamic between Rhaenyra and Nettles…

One of my biggest qualms of ASOIAF, is the inherent racism displayed in the text, and the fandom, when discussing characters like Nettles, Elia, Baela, Laena and Rhaena.

My introduction to ASOIAF was House of the Dragon, and after watching, I was an avid team black supporter ( still am, Rhaenyra was Viserys’ heir).

After finishing the main series, and watching half of Game of Thrones, I reread Fire and Blood, focusing mainly of the Dance of Dragons.

Of all the interesting characters during the Dance of the Dragons, the one that caught my eye was Nettles, the first and last rider of Sheepstealer.

Her introduction alone was enough for me to fall in love with her :

“Unlikely dragon rider”, “the first and last rider of the dragon Sheepstealer”, “fearless”, “cunning”

Very little is known of Nettles’ upbringing, as the accounts of Eustace, Munkun and Mushroom are biased with racism, classism, misogyny and second hand information.

I’m not particularly sure if it was George’s intention, but the language used by Gyldayn and the a portion of the fandom is a prime example of how black girls are robbed of innocence and agency when being accused of ‘wrong’.

Going back to her relationship with Rhaenyra, the two women are not on equal footing. Rhaenyra was awarded privileges even other noble women in the realm could only dream of,(not that she lived without suffering, she still faced misogyny & sexual abuse), as opposed to Nettles, who lived as a commoner with nothing to do but survive.

Coming around to the Dance of Dragons, Nettles fights for Rhaenyra’s claim as the rider of Sheepstealer. She grieves Rhaenyra’s children, and the loss felt in war.

Daemon and Rhaenyra’s are implied to have an open marriage in Fire and Blood.

Mysaria is Rhaenyra’s Mistress of Whisperers during the Dance of the Dragons, with no implications of animosity between the two. Yet, upon the hearing of Daemon and Nettle’s rumored romance, Rhaenyra is angered?

Rhaenyra’s disdain for Nettles reminds me of another harmful dynamic in real world history,- a jealous white woman, and a young black girl being cut by the blade of her vengeance. Rhaenyra dehumanizes Nettles, going as far as to call her a creature and demanding a brutal death for Nettles, so that Daemon could be free from her ‘sorcery’. She cannot conceptualize how Daemon could be attracted to Nettles, so she accuses her of using magic to bound him to her.

Their dynamic reminds me of the relationships between wives of white slaver owners and the enslaved women that their husbands would abuse sexually. The blame is never casted on the husband. Whether or not Nettles and Daemon had a romantic relationship or a father-daughter one, she did not deserve the treatment Rhaenyra gave her.

To close this, I still like Rhaenyra as a character. She’s interesting in a sense where, regardless of what she’s done, she was the better option for the Iron Throne, especially if we are going off of her character in the show. However, she still reads to me as the epitome of white feminism. Her fight is for no one else but herself.

#asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #house of the dragon #anti rhaenyra targaryen #asoiaf nettles #nettles defense squad #hotd #nettles x daemon #nettles f&b #nettles asoiaf #anti fandom #nettles #netty #mysaria #gyldayn #daemon targaryen #sheepstealer

[alicenttully]

if the speculation about dyana's storyline and the framing of it is correct, then it's just going to highlight the racism (can you expose something that's already well known?) of the GOT/ASOIAF audience who make up HOTD's viewership.

it's going to expose their racism if they give all the sympathy/understanding in the world to dyana (btw please refrain this from trying to twist this into me saying she would be unworthy of the audience's kindness) that they refused to give mirri maz durr.

many people believe that mirri murdered rhaego (even though the case for it is weak at best) in revenge against dany for the suffering she experienced at the hands of dany's husband. these same people won't bat an eye when mirri is later burned alive because their reasoning is well, she killed a baby, an innocent. ftr its actually perfectly valid and reasonable and morally correct to not want to defend the murder of children so if people were consistent there wouldn't be an issue.

but because people aren't consistent, if my predictions are correct then it'll will do for me personally is send a message that brutal acts of revenge involving children are justified when it's coming from someone who is young, white, and pretty. however, it's suddenly not OK when it's coming from a character who is a woc and is protrayed as not attractive (ftr when it comes to mirri's looks, we're getting dany's biased perspective)

i also don't think its just a class thing either. elia martell is of ultra highborn nobility, and yet so much of the fandom will demonize the martells for not wanting to move on from the injustices that were committed against her. and what do you know elia isn't white.

#alicent hightower #helaena targaryen #aegon ii targaryen #princess elia martell #house of the dragon #hotd #hotd speculation #hotd spoilers #anti asoiaf fandom #anti hotd fandom #anti team black #anti dany stans #just because i don't want to deal with them

[puckgoss]

Okay great! Same anon from before. BTW, love your blog! The others seem to have a clear bias but I love how you keep it real over here. Super interesting as well! Now with the real deal...

CELEBS:

Justin Bieber is super nice, he seemed genuinely honored and happy to be there. Him and Mitch Marner are sooo cute, Justin was so supportive of him all the time and cheered backstage so much. He's also cool with Crosby apparently, saw them talking a lot. Met Hailey briefly and not surprised, just classic model behavior, glasses on inside, didn't say hi to anybody just a slight smile. It's fine I guess but compared to Justin who was a ray of sunshine seemed kinda odd. Michael Bublé did not 'accidentally' take a huge dose of weed, he was joking about how high he was and laughing about smoking more afterwards. Will Arnett is like a drunk uncle but not drunk. Both nice. Tate McCrae is soo sweet! I felt her because we were only like 5/6 women backstage and she was the only female captain, also with an ex who is an NHL player so already has that "puck bunny" reputation, so her being there was cool to see. Her BF was also backstage, but I don't think the players knew it was her BF haha, a colleague and I noticed at least 15 of the guys walking up to her and chatting it up. Ones I remember that looked flirty are Sway, the Hughes (they talked throughout the whole weekend and they're all around the same age so may have been friendly but you know how men are), Elias Lindholm, Elias Petterson, & Mat Barzal. She obviously talked to a lot of people but these I remember looking more like them trying to get somewhere with her. Her and her BF are so cute though! He was very touchy with her. Saw her talking to Boone Jenner for a while, but he seemed just friendly. He is also her ex's teammate so wonder what that's about.

PLAYERS:

Auston Matthews is actually really charismatic. At one point the whole dressing room went quiet and we heard him singing "Baby" by Justin Bieber. We all cracked up haha. The Hughes brothers had a fight the first day, don't really know about what but Jack walked in upset and Quinn wouldn't even look at him. Both with their frowning RBF. McDavid had the same attitude as Hailey Bieber LOL. He softened up a bit when talking to other players but otherwise he is super cold always. Pasta and Travis Konecny also seemed to lowkey hate each other. Colleague told me Travis doesn't like Pasta at all but can't 100% confirm that as I didn't hear it directly, just an interesting rivalry. The Canucks players were like a group of mean girls, they literally stuck together the entire weekend, even if they were drafted to separate teams. Vincent Trocheck flirted his ASS off with several women, myself included. Found out later he was married. Swayman is truly a nice person, I think he and Boone Jenner were the only ones who said hi to the whole crew and also goodbye. Also saw him and Georgiev have a bro-hug after they lost the game and he said something to him that made him really laugh, it was very cute. The Hughes also seem to not like Suzuki, avoided him all weekend. Cale Makar is like a doll haha he is so awkward all the time and everytime he speaks his face looks like he immediately regrets it.

That's all at the top of my head, but if there's anything else you want to know LMK!

ahaha ty ty! i def have my biases when it comes to teams but i try pretty hard to keep it neutral and not give my biases away 😭 as for players i don't have any faves or rly think any are angels so i have no preconceptions there

omg there is so much to unpack here idek where to begin

justin bieber - he did seem so happy to be there the whole time lol he loves hockey and the leafs i think that was all 100% genuine! so sweet

hailey bieber - sounds abt right lol

michael bublé - lmaooooo tell me ur from vancouver without telling me ur from vancouver.... iconic he was so funny that whole weekend

tate mcrae - ya i forget her bf's name but i was aware he was there n they do seem v cute together! love all the wifed up guys chatting her up ahaha except barzy n petey they get a pass. another anon on here was telling me all the CBJ guys & wags liked tate a lot so doesn't surprise me that boone & her were friendly

hughes brothers - jack n quinn having a fight is soooo funny omfg i can't. also being bitchy towards suzuki like 😭 funny bc they're so tight w cole caufield (esp jack) n suzuki n cole are teammates and besties

mcdavid - you comparing mcdavid to hailey bieber is fucking sending me dsiofjdskghdfjklgh he is so awkward...

TK - TK having beef w pasta is soooo funny

canucks - canucks players "like a group of mean girls" i'm dying omfg 💀 lindholm was drafted to a separate team ya but he was only traded to the canucks like a few days before that so that was the first time they were really meeting him

trocheck - flirting his ass off with multiple women dsfknadslfkjgfng his kids were literally on the ice watching the skills comp w him that's soooo bad

swayman & jenner - being sweethearts aw that is nice to hear

cale makar - "like a doll" "awkward all the time" "every time he speaks his face looks like he immediately regrets it" perfect no notes!!!

#amazing tea tysm anon #i would want to know anything literally even stuff u would consider scraps!!!!! #eating this up! #ask! #ok now to tag everyone lol #guess i should tag the biebs #j. bieber #h. bieber #m. marner #not tagging buble n arnett #t. mcrae #b. jenner #q. hughes #j. hughes #n. suzuki #j. swayman #c. makar #v. trocheck #t. konecny #c. mcdavid #a. matthews

[skrimblo]

Top 3 characters in El Filibusterismo/Noli me Tangere and why 🥺

AHHHH I NEVER DID THESE THINGS im quite bad at collecting my thoughts so sorry if this is messy and near incomprehensible im only good at word vomits #1 simoun: i am VERY very biased about this if ill be honest im so sorry. I genuinely have a love for characters who are so revenge driven that they start hurting others around them (see; percy de rolo from tlovm) not only that his transformation from the idealistic crisostomo to this ruthless cynical simoun is genuinely so staggering and great i genuinely love it so much. His philosophy of evil for evil and how he generally carries himself throughout the novel is also amazing and its so good because of it whenever were seeing moments of his "evil guy" persona crack (when he saw maria claras locket; finding out maria claras death) AND HE HAS WHITE HAIR CMON #2 Elias AGAIN BIASED AS WELL im so sorry i love self sacrifical characters ok. But also his loyalty to crisostomo in noli is sooo !!!!! elibarra aside i genuinely love how loyal this man is that he saved crisostomos ass like three times and then dying whilst doing so :( His wants for a bloody revolt being tempered the more the novel progresses due to understanding more of others viewpoint like from pilosopo tasio leading him to understand that a it would only cause innocents to suffer is so good, further more refusing his plans on revenge then redeeming himself by sacrificing his life as well shows so much of his growth as a character plus ang pogi nya pa keme lng #3 Basilio I havent finished el fili yet forgive me but i love how basilios so optimistic in the novel like SOMEONE SAVE THIS DUDE he doesnt deserve the shit he went through!! but also his optimism and hope for the future being constantly challenged by simoun is so!?@? his rejection towards simouns offering to join the revolt despite the tragedies he underwent from the hands of the friars shows so much of his strong values. Those values inevitably cracking by leaving that optimistic mindset and joining the revolt after losing juli since he no longer has anything else to lose made me so sad man :( someone save him

#el filibusterismo #noli me tangere #ask #hasduas sorry kung wala kng maintindihan </3 #panget tlaga ako iconvey ng iniisip ko #my art #doodles #basilio #elias #simoun

[dcartcorner]

I love how the kids' dynamics are evolving in Elsewhere. In the beginning, Simon was the driving force, Elias was the heart and Peter was just... being dragged around. Now Elias is the driving force (to find the truth!), Simon is the heart and Peter is a protector!

heck yeah, we love to see character growth for the boys (especially peter because i'm biased)

#ask #elsewhere au ask