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fandom-geek17 · 1 year
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Why I actively think Tyler will be redeemed and Wyler will be endgame based on actual clues and my knowledge about movie-making (and not just because I am a raging Tyler apologist)
This is a long one so strap yourselves in, hahaha
First of all, Hunter Doohan confirmed that Tyler’s feelings for Wednesday were real because he didn’t know who she was or her significance to Laurel’s plan when they first met at the Weathervane. But I’d go even further and claim that he didn’t know her significance during the entire first episode. If he knew, why would he ever offer her a ride out of Jericho and offer her the police file that inadvertently led to her cracking the case and bringing Laurel down (but the argument could also be made that that’s why he gave her that file, to bring his abuser down).
Wednesday makes it abundantly clear over the entire season that she has no interest in Xavier whatsoever and is constantly turned off/annoyed by his presence and antics. And this might just be me personally, but Xavier reminds me a lot of an ex of mine who was extremely entitled, selfish, immature and giving major incel vibes. I feel like Xavier is the type of guy who is nice to a girl only when he is interested and/or wants something. And the way he treated Bianca at the Rave’N (immediate no-no) and immediately goes into pity party-mode whenever someone rejects him just irks me. But again, that might just be me.
Now compare that with Wednesday’s reaction to Tyler’s antics. Wednesday is not someone who wants closeness in the beginning, in any shape or form. She is honest, direct and blunt, with no interest in pretending she enjoys something to be polite. Yet she doesn’t object when Tyler manhandles her in ep 2 (in the forest), she never denies her interest in him in ep 4, her first reaction to attending the Rave’N with Xavier is ‘a bullet to the head’ whilst her reaction to attending with Tyler is to immediately start looking for a dress in her closet. She often seeks out his company when she doesn’t really have a reason to, like when she went through the trouble of going all the way to the Weathervane to ask Tyler about the meetinghouse instead just asking anyone else working at Pilgrim World. These small details are to me the ‘signals’ Tyler was referring to. And I think he also just felt the energy between them, or maybe when you’re a 16 year old boy, most things can be interpreted as ‘signals’ if there’s an interest on his part. Or it was just straight up manipulation, as Hunter stated on his instragram. Either way, we can’t deny that Wednesday seems to enjoy Tyler’s presence more than Xavier’s.
Speaking of Wednesday, this is WEDNESDAY ADDAMS. People claim Xavier is the “healthier choice”, which might be true for any other character. But I feel like it’s very OOC for Wednesday to choose one above the other for being “healthier”, not that I believe Xavier would be much healthier. Wednesday went as far as canonically confirming that Tyler is her type BECAUSE he’s a serial killing monster.
The Addams’ Family have a long history of embracing all things weird and unconventional. Fester would be over the moon hearing that a Hyde of all outcasts (his young crush) has captured Wednesday’s heart. Gomez and Morticia would be more than happy to give Tyler all the love and security he never got from his own family. Morticia smiles fondly when Pugsley mentions missing being waterboarded by Wednesday, I don’t think she would have any trouble embracing a traumatized outcast submitted to abuse and torture and then forced to do someone else’s bidding against their will. She mama-bear instincts would kick up.
Hunter Doohan also said that one of the things he looks forward to exploring in season 2 (now confirmed, yay!) is Tyler’s relationship with the Hyde, pulling each side. Who is the real Tyler and who is the Hyde? Does he have active control over the Hyde’s actions or are they all controlled by his master? Remember, we technically have no idea what Tyler did of his own free will and what he was forced to say and do (including that last fight in ep 8). I imagine the Hyde being more of a split personality rather just than man vs monster. The question is if only the Hyde-personality had access to his monster form.
We see that Tyler rebelled against Laurel when he could, when he wasn’t actively forced to do something. For example when he slipped Wednesday the police file (if we believe that theory) and when he chose to keep Eugene alive (Laurel said “take care of it”, clearly meaning “kill him” but since she never used the word ‘kill’, I believe he saw his chance). He also keeps pointing Wednesday in the right direction, even when he probably wasn’t supposed to according to his master, like when he helped her find the meeting house, helped her break into Laurel’s home, chased her and Enid into the basement where they could find more clues.
Grooming, abuse, torture, manipulation, and mind control!!! Need I say more? Tyler is a true victim of his circumstances and society. We must admit that it was pretty easy for Laurel to sink her claws into him. Lonely, traumatized boy with one dead parent and one to emotionally constipated to raise him through his trauma, and here comes Laurel and offers him the truth about his mother in exchange for mommy kink sexual advances until she kidnaps him to torture as she pleases in a cave. She basically presented herself as the sexual version of his mother that Freud loved to say young boys were so vulnerable to. Of course this lonely boy would fall for her act. Laurel even described herself as a plant metaphor in episode 4: some carnivorous varieties use sexual trickery or deception. She then made him think this entire nefarious plan was about him getting revenge on the way outcasts treated his mother.
We see Tyler screaming out for help, subtly and literally, when he tells Wednesday that he wants to “get out of this hellhole town” and later when he’s screaming in the bathtub in ep 3.
The writers keep mentioning Wyler’s “primal attraction” and how Wednesday is drawn to Tyler’s dark side even from the start when she didn’t know what he was. And I truly believe he feels the same way, he is so smitten when she states she would dump piranhas in the swimming pool again. They are both attracted to the darker aspects of their personalities, whereas I feel like Xavier has this romanticized view of Wednesday in his head and when she disproves that by being her morbid, honest self, his first instinct is to whine and feel sorry for himself. He doesn’t embrace every part of her character.
Netflix makes Wyler a large part of their promotion of the show, going as far as pinning Wyler-positive comments on Instagram and making Wyler at the dance their thumbnail for the show on Netflix and hyping Hunter Doohan in general.
If you compare Wyler and Wavier scenes, they tend to play very soft music and use soft/warm lighting during the Wyler scenes. Wavier scenes, sometimes have this too, but never as prominent as with Wyler. From what I’ve seen with other media, that is usually foreshadowing of the producers’ larger plan.
I have a Filler Couple Theory! And that is that the couple that becomes canon in the middle of a show’s entire runtime is almost never canon by the time the show ends. There are exceptions, of course. But generally, shows tend to follow a similar format: couple 1 is introduced as an idea in season 1, they may or may not become canon but the tension is there, for whatever reason couple 2 becomes canon in season 2/3 to create drama and more tension before couple one becomes endgame in season 3/3 (example Stancy in ST, Benvi in NHIE). An exception to this rule is if couple one is a blowburn over several seasons without a love triangle (example: Peraltiago in B99). The writers of Wednesday have planned 4 seasons. They end season 1 with Wyler broken up, hint that Wavier might take more precedence in season 2, and yet still keeps hyping Wyler as much as they do. I think Wavier will be a distraction/filler for Wednesday as Tyler regains her trust and they build so much sexual tension.
So, this was long and kind of all over the place. But as Enid, I write in my voice. And I will admit that some of these points may be down to pure manipulation on Tyler’s part, especially the signals thing. But part of what I love about this show is the ambiguity, the moral grey areas, the way they make a point of embracing the dark side of humanity and loving the characters through it. Until the show canonically confirms that there is no hope for Tyler/Wyler, I will continue to ship it. And I want to add that my will to ship Wyler has nothing to do with who I would personally choose for myself. If given the choice, I would date Enid before my mind could form the phrase ‘toxic relationship’, and I’m very much one of those boring straight people. But as a romantic partner for a dark, morbid character like Wednesday Addams, I would choose Tyler any day.
Tagging: @therulerofallpotatos
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gojonanami · 26 days
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I 100% support people taking their religion and making it their whole life but i DON'T support pushing that onto other people @ that one anon who yapped about it's haram to ship fictional men.
no literally though — do not be the haram police lol — there’s no need to push your beliefs and values onto other people. especially when they were not asking for your opinion at all.
I still can’t believe people like that exist truly
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totallynots8tan · 1 year
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Donald gets super jealous when someone flirts with his boyfriends (this does not include when his boyfriends flirt with each other). Idk, he just strikes me as the jealous type.
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afaimsarrowverse · 11 months
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Arrowverse Hall of Shame: My 30 (ish) Least Favorite Episodes
Picked from „Arrow“, „Black Lightning“, „Supergirl“, „Legends of Tomorrow“, „The Flash“, „Barwoman“ Season 1+2 and „Superman & Lois“ Season 1+2. Also known as the „Why? Why?? Why?-List“ of Episodes. And yes, obviously I hate Season 2 of „Batwoman“, because they did pretty much everything wrong you can do wrong when faced with this kind of situation (Why not just make Sophie into the new Batwoman, or introduce Luke’s sister or cousin, or just - you know -keep Kate as main character if you do end up recasting her after all. Sigh).
 30. Living Proof (Arrow 7x21)
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29. Rule Number 1 (Batwoman 2x9)
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28. You have saved this City (Arrow 7x22)
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27. A New World Part 4: Finale (The Flash 9x13)
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26. Negative Part 1+2 (The Flash 8x19/8x20)
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25. Mask of the Red Death Part 2 (The Flash 9x5)
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24. Family Matters Part 1+2 (The Flash 7x10/7x11)
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23. Brothers in Arms (Arrow 6x17)
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22. Armed and Dangerous (Batwoman 2x15)
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21. Lone Gunmen (Arrow 1x3)
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20. Do not Resuscitate (Batwoman 2x6)
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19. Battles Lost and Won (Supergirl 3x23)
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18. Honor Thy Father (Arrow 1x2)
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17. Gore on Canvas (Batwoman 2x5)
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16. Elven-Fifty-Nine (Arrow 4x18)
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15. Unmasked (Arrow 7x8)
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14. Bat Girl Magic! (Batwoman 2x3)
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13. The Dragon (Arrow 6x19)
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12. The Missing Link (Supergirl 5x18)
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11. The Devil’s Greatest Trick (Arrow 6x13)
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10. Irreconcilable Differences (Arrow 6x9)
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9. Divided / We Fall (Arrow 6x10/6x11)
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8. All for Nothing (Arrow 6x12)
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7. Fair Skin, Blue Eyes (Batwoman 2x4)
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6. Burned (Arrow 1x10)
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5. Prior Criminal History (Batwoman 2x2)
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4. And Justice for All (Batwoman 2x14)
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3. Underneath (Arrow 5x20)
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2. Collision Course (Arrow 6x14)
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1.      What happened to Kate Kane? (Batwoman 2x1)
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leonleonhart · 10 months
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[closes article so i dont get pointlessly mad at ppl for disliking a game i like]
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Bro if you write all these to impress girls, stop being such goody-two-shoes, we all know how pretentious you must be in real life.
ok
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sacha-da-1 · 2 years
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I get way too offended when people irl insult the Master 😂
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darkcrowprincess · 16 days
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If someone calls Luz's issues and compare them to being a bully one more time I'm going to scream. 😤 Sasha from Amphibia is a bully. AMITY BLIGHT IS A BULLY. Luz has issues and she severely annoys people and causes problems but she is not a bully!
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I hate when people use words to describe a character. Or state their opinion about a character without fully understanding what they mean.
(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)
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awesomefangirl33 · 11 months
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See, something I'll never understand about the Undertale fandom is the fact that some people say that what Sans did at the end of the Genocide route was terrible? Like- excuse me was he supposed to figure out that Frisk wasn't the one in control during that time? After Frisk, to his knowledge, murdered his brother (which he never acts on in the neutral routes btw) and nearly all the other monsters in the Underground and accumulated a crazy high level of LV?
Make it make sense.
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theharlotofferelden · 8 months
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“Gale is so boring” he had a emotional and sexual relationship with a goddess and was so down bad for her that he tried to reclaim a small aspect of her power just to please her and in doing so ended up with a magical bomb in his chest yet that doesn’t keep him from being a kind, slightly condescending, enthusiastic malewife nerd who thinks your dirty ass smells good GET OUT OF MY HOUSE
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lightlycareless · 2 years
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😬 I got a comment, and by the whole premise of it, it looks like they don't like y/n at all lol
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ptllsdelmon · 26 days
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all creds to the creator, this is the best edit i’ve ever seen. proof that alexia putellas is both a role model for socially awkward girls and also pookie 😇🫂🙇‍♀️🩷
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fortheloveofexy · 7 months
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nothing will get me to block you faster than saying shit like "everyone who read aftg agrees that the series is awful."
like please for the love of god at least be original if you're going to be fucking annoying.
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buglordsupreme · 1 year
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Also for the peeps that are saying that Huntlow was left ambiguous or not canon because there wasn’t a kiss or a greater display of affection.
Are you sure we all watched the same finale???Because when I saw those ending sequences all I saw were two idiots in love <3
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afaimsarrowverse · 11 months
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All Season of “The Flash” sorted from the Worst to the Best:
Unsurprisingly Season 9 was not able to turn it around, yes two episodes in it are among the best of the entire show, but the rest of the season and the season as a whole was just terrible. So, like I said, no surprise there:
9. Season 9 (by far the worst Season)
8. Season 7
7. Season 8 (because in reality it was not much better than Season 7)
6. Season 2 (because they just remade the Plot of Season 1 in a less good way)
5. Season 4
4. Season 6 (because back then there was actually good stuff happening under EW)
3. Season 3
2. Season 5
1. Season 1 (by far the best Season)
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tripleaxeldiaz · 2 months
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i think the collective 911 New Season Resolution should be to give the show room to breathe. yes sometimes things happen that don’t make sense, or characters make decisions that are annoying. but in almost 100 episodes of this show, rarely has there been anything done for no reason or something that wasn’t circled back to at one point or another. maybe we can just trust the writers with their own material for like a minute. and maybe if we don’t like it we can just stop watching and stop making how upset we are everyone else’s problem
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