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“Ty breathing like he was sucker punched bc he wasn’t prepared for how beautiful Kit has become or how much he’s missed him is something that can be so personal”
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hopestrope · 1 year
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Once I get the results of this poll I will make a more specific poll about the circumstances of this revelation. Like who will find out when and how etc. So feel free to share any scenarios that you come up with!
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aroace-cat-lady · 2 years
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Definitely im not thinking on Ghost!Livvy. Definitely im not thinking on the fact that the Blackthorns are decendents of Belial. Definitely im not thinking on Belial being a Prince of Hell and the demon of necromancy. Definitely im not thinking on how Ghost!Livvy is in some kind of limbo between realms, vulnerable at external forces. Definitely im not thinking on Raziel raising Jace back from the dead by Clary's petition. Definitely im not thinking on the possibility of Belial using Livvy as a weapon and bringing her back. Definitely im not thinking on this resurected Livvy being under Belial's influence and control. Definitely im not thinking on how heartbreaking that would be. Definitely im not thinking what that would do to Ty, to all the Blackthorns. Definitely im not doing that, i swear.
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chewriting · 2 years
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This was supposed to be a little snippet of Kit talking to Hazel about the reason why they broke up and it sort of got away from me. I can't explain how it evolved the way it did. I'm sorry about any potential typos as I wrote it in an angst filled fervor but I'm not sorry about the subject.
Content Warnings: extensive talk about death, just generally not a great time
Sitting on the stairs of the London Institute, watching Shadowhunters and Downworlders alike ready for war, makes Kit feel fifteen again. Though it’s been three years since he was forced to sit aside while Livia’s Watch marched Brocelind to meet the Cohort–even if Kit would have stayed behind without being magically chained to a tree–he doesn’t feel any more prepared. Three years wasn’t enough time to bounce between Cirenworth and the Exeter Institute to become a formidable threat. Sometimes his arms still shake under the weight of certain weapons. He’d be embarrassed if he could collect enough emotion to form it. 
So, he stays quiet, eye flicking between small groups readying themselves in their own ways. Shadowhunters strapping thick leather pieces over their chests and shoulders, hoping it’d be enough to stop a swinging blade, at least briefly. The Downworlders are noticeably less dressed-up, but not noticeably less deadly. Vampires run their tongues over sharpened canines as they speak amongst themselves and werewolves bounce on the balls of their feet or chase friends around to work off restless energy. Several groups back, Kit thinks he can make out the bright-pink updo of the Chagford pack leader. 
A small part of him wishes he knew all their names, or any other identifying characteristics so he wouldn’t have to meet them as another on a long list of lives lost. But in the end, it wouldn’t affect him too much as he’s expecting to be added to that list. 
It’s why he’s sitting aside, watching instead of warming up his arms with a few practice strikes. It’s why he hasn’t been able to meet anyone’s eyes since entering the Sanctuary. It’s why he carefully blended into the crowd when he spotted Jem stretched over the crowd, searching. The knowledge of his impending death weighs heavy in his stomach, jostling the turkey and tomato sandwich he wolfed down earlier into a cramping torrent. 
It’s scary, the idea of dying. But Kit’s known it’s what has to happen for weeks. He had only hoped that on the day of he’d have a more resigned acceptance than jittery fear. 
His knee bounces on the step below him–fatigued from prolonged stress in his position or anxiety, he can’t tell–and it’s distracting enough that Kit doesn’t immediately notice when someone sits down next to him. They don’t immediately speak and Kit doesn’t know how strong his voice will come out if he tries to say anything, so he spares a glance out the corner of his eye. Kit’s heart clenches for an entirely new reason as his body hasn’t shut down quite yet.
“Shouldn’t you be over there, with all the other Shadowhunters?” Hazel asks, her curls bouncing as she cocks her head at him.
“Shouldn’t you be with the other werewolves?” Kit shoots back, hoping she’ll see he’s not in the mood and leave him alone.
She doesn’t grimace at his comment; she doesn’t really react at all. It’s one of the reasons Kit was so drawn to her when they were fifteen: she let all of Kit’s barbed remarks and pointed defenses bounce right off her like they were nothing but styrofoam peanuts. “I don’t really have a reason to, as I’m not fighting.”
Of which Kit is thankful. Despite his most self-deprecating thoughts revolving around how he may have never really cared about her and that she was just a placeholder for someone he’d never get to have, Kit truly cares about Hazel. He doesn’t know how he’d react if her name came up as those lost. 
Kit nods but doesn’t say anything else. It’s like Hazel can feel Kit’s hesitation coming off him in waves, as she leans closer into his space. She still smells like the celebrity perfume she buys discount and the collar of her jacket still has a bleached spot when they tried to impromptu dye her ends with Kool-Aid. Just sitting next to her is nostalgic and painful altogether.
“Are you not fighting either?” She asks. Kit ignores the hopeful upturn of her voice. The constant fighting of being a Shadowhunter always worried her.
“I am. I just don’t feel like discussing the optimal way to sever someone’s arm from their torso.”
Hazel does grimace at that. “Coming up with your own plan?”
“Something like that.”
It’s vague, just skirting around a lie. Kit wonders if he should tell her the truth. It’s been all but eating away at him: knowing that he’s got going to make it out of the battle alive but unable to make final goodbyes without raising alarms. Shadowhunters don’t go into battle expecting to die. If he at all seems too prepared to not return, people will start asking questions. 
Maybe he can still get some guilt off his chest, especially since Hazel has always known him for being dramatic. 
“Hey,” he starts, finally twisting to look at her face to face. She’s really grown into her features, much as Kit did. The strong jut of her jawline now matches her sharp cheekbones and the hair she used to wrestle day and night with is expertly contained in tight side buns. Sometimes he’ll see a picture of her on Instagram and not be able to connect the face on his phone screen to the one he dated at fifteen. She finally managed to master the wrist-flick eyeliner. “I know it’s kinda late, but I wanted to officially apologize for how we broke up.”
“Oh?” It bubbles out of her throat like a laugh. Kit hasn’t heard her laugh in a long time. 
“Yeah. I’ve just been thinking about it recently. And I feel like you got the short end of the stick there.”
“Kit, it was three years ago. I’m over it.”
“I know.” He looks up at the ceiling. Tapestries of stars, runes, and swords sway without any wind. “I just felt stupid. I actually broke up with you because I was too scared to ask if you were a werewolf.”
Hazel fully laughs now, the sound causing a few heads to turn. “Kit that’s fucking ridiculous.”
“I know! It’s dumb!” Kit cries, flopping back onto the stairs. Their edges dig into the divots of his spine but he pays it no mind. 
“You could have always just asked. It wasn’t like I was actively trying to hide it from you.”
“I can see that now.”
“Kit I like, never eat sugar.”
“I know.”
“Church hated me!”
“Church hates everyone!”
Hazel giggles, sounding more like a hiccup, before sobering. They stare at each other for a while, sky blue meeting olive green. She sighs and lays next to Kit.
“When we broke up, I was pretty upset. I thought we were good together. Deep down I didn’t think we were going to be together forever, but at least a few months longer.” She looks down at Kit’s hands, clasped over his stomach. There are several new scars that weren’t there last time she was close enough to look. “But the more I thought about it. I realized something.”
She looks back up at Kit’s face. Somehow, Kit knows he’s not going to like what she’ll say. “That your reason was just an excuse.”
Kit’s heart kicks up. “Well yeah. I just said it’s because I couldn’t make myself ask if you were a werewolf and then it became too late to reasonably ask.”
“No, Kit, that’s just an excuse too. There’s something deeper,” she persists. Kit definitely doesn’t like what she’s implying. He jolts back up, leaning against his hands in a poor attempt to look casual. The rigidity of his shoulders gives away how upset he truly is. 
“Hazel, I was young and stupid. I really didn’t have deep trauma tied to our breakup.”
Of course, since she’s known him for years, the lie fails like a musket misfiring. But she backs away regardless, placating hands coming up between them.
“I know you don’t owe me anything. I can accept young and stupid. I’m really only saying anything in case you didn’t feel it too.”
He risks a look across the Sanctuary. It’s hard to get a clear view, as this is not the epiphany scene at the end of a rom-com and people keep passing in front of him, but Kit finds him easily as he was aware the second he arrived and has made a note of his every movement since. Ty. This isn’t the first time Kit’s seen him in full Centurion garb, but it has yet to not cause his breath to catch. He’s supposed to be authoritative, in his military-style undercoat and shiny shin-guards, but Kit can’t help but think he looks like a prince. 
Ty doesn’t notice Kit’s attention, too caught up in his conversation with a few of the other graduates from his class. He’s gesturing animately to a notebook in his hands. None of them look bored or exasperated to be getting orders from someone younger. Kit feels the corners of his mouth quirk up minutely. 
“Unless you already knew.” It’s enough to snap Kit back to his conversation with Hazel. The look she gives him is knowing, though the pinch in her eyebrows makes it look like she’s in pain. 
A familiar burn makes its way back up his chest. He’s gone months without feeling it, with finally talking to Ty again being enough to ease some of the aches he’s learned to live with since Los Angeles. Their relationship still isn’t great and Kit will probably never reach the level they once had. But Ty confided in him for certain snags in his investigations and they were actually able to patrol a few times in relative silence. 
It strikes Kit that, since these are his last few moments, he’ll never actually be able to make amends with Ty. 
“It doesn’t matter. Just puppy love that’s overstayed it's welcome.” Kit wants to be able to brush it aside. Talk about it with a steady and detached voice. But he’s hardly told anyone about how he still feels about Ty. Brushing around the truth feels like digging his fingernail into a new scab. His newest realization feels like someone tore the entire thing off, blood and serum pooling as his skin throbs. 
“Does he know?” Hazel asks because she’s somehow gained the ability to ask just the right questions for the hot knife in Kit’s heart that he had hoped was long cooled to twist. 
“He knows. He just doesn’t feel the same way,” Kit mutters. It feels too real, saying it out loud. He’s thought it to himself on multiple occasions. But somehow getting the words into the real world cements them. Makes them true. 
“Oh. I’m really sorry Kit.” She sounds genuine and the press of her palm against his shoulder is comforting and gentle. Though he knows her mind could change if she knew the whole story. But he can’t share all the details without possibly giving up Ty’s crime. It does feel nice though, to have someone listen and offer sympathy. As if he’s just a boy with unrequited feelings. 
He rests his temple against her shoulder, the angle slightly off as he’s grown a few inches taller than her. Without him noticing, tears begin to drip down his cheeks. Hazel’s arms come up to tightly squeeze Kit’s shoulders and he lets her. He lets her believe he’s crying over a boy. He lets her believe she’s comforting him through a brief moment of heartbreak. He lets her cheek rest against the top of his head while he mourns his own life.
Kit doesn’t want to die, a feeling he might have not been able to share three years ago. He has a family now, a little sister. Who he’ll never get to see grow up. He had just started to get the hang of throwing daggers and now he’ll never get to feel the pride radiating off Jem when he inches ever closer to a bullseye. The magic Tessa had worked so hard to help him hone buzzes angrily underneath his skin, frustrated by its owner's weakness. There will be no more days beginning with fresh chocolate pastries Jem brought back after his walk, no more mid-afternoon naps with Mina cradled against his chest on the couch, no more movie nights buzzing with excitement to show his favorites to Tessa. 
Then there’s Ty. He blew all his chances to suck it up and apologize. All the perfect moments of them alone in the library, gone. That night on the roof, with Livvy floating just off the edge acting like a referee in their biggest argument, wasted potential. Ty sticking around as Kit got patched up after a run-in with the fae that nearly left Kit headless, the words clung against his throat. He’ll never know that Kit is sorry, so fucking sorry, that he’s just too afraid to hear how he’s nothing again to actually get it out. 
He sniffles into the lapel of Hazel’s jacket. It would be embarrassing if he could muster the energy to care. The only hope is that people are minding their business. Her hands dip to scratch soothing circles into his back. The pattern acts like a magnet, drawing all his tension out of his shoulders to follow her manicured nails.
Even when the tears dry, he keeps his head down. He can’t possibly catch someone’s gaze with puffy, red eyes. Something settles in his chest. Like a drop of water calming a raging reservoir. Like a fire dying to a smolder. Like wind finally letting up to leave perfect silence behind. 
“Hazel?” Kit asks.
Her nails don’t stop their circling of his spine. “Yeah Kit?”
“I need to ask you something, but it’s okay if you can’t do it.”
“Okay.”
“If I die,” he feels her tense and one of his hands runs down her upper arm in a soothing gesture, “if I die, can you tell my parents that I don’t want to be added to the Silent City?”
She pulls away, her eyes like stones. Her mouth is pressed into a harsh line and the perceived pain in her eyebrows is obvious now. “You don’t?”
Kit shakes his head. Ever since he heard about the Silent City, how the ashes of fallen Shadowhunters become the very walls that keep it stable, Kit knew that wasn’t where he wanted what was left of his body to reside for eternity. “They can burn me. But I want my ashes to be scattered in the ocean.”
Hazel opens her mouth as if to speak but nothing comes out. She shakes her head violently and pulls Kit back into her arms. It still feels like an acceptance. 
Sadly, there’s a call for anyone not fighting to gather around Magnus so he can portal them home to safety. Hazel clings to Kit’s shoulders, shaking. A cowardly part of him wants to go with her: return to Chagford while everyone else fights in a war he has no real stake in. But even though Kit’s been a Shadowhunter for barely three years, he pulls up some of their characteristic bravery deep within his chest. They part, Hazel teary-eyed and Kit carefully neutral. It looks like there’s more she wants to say, maybe she can tell that Kit isn’t going to come back alive. Just like she knew Kit’s heart was already with someone else when they dated. She just takes a deep breath, squeezes Kit’s hand, and turns on her heel to go home. 
He can’t watch her leave, so he scans the room again to catalog everyone he even remotely cares about. Jace and Alec tower over a collection of younger Shadowhunters, flanked by Clary, Simon, and Izzy. Distantly, he can make out Emma and Julian applying runes to each other's arms more out of habit than necessity. He saw Christina showing someone how to notch an arrow in a crossbow earlier but he can’t spot her now. Dru sits cross-legged with Mark tying her hair back into a tight bun as he sharpens several daggers lining his hips. Jem and Tessa are helping to hand out weapons at one of the many tables, working until the last moment when they’ll be asked to stay behind–they have a three-year-old daughter at home. Now alone, Ty spins a bow staff around his hand absent-mindedly, scanning the crowd himself. Probably hoping to find Livvy in the crowd of nameless Shadowhunters and Downworlders. 
Kit’s still afraid, but he’s slightly more content now. His plan isn’t the easiest nor the best. But it’s the one with the least amount of casualties. Ideally just him. It’s all worth it if everyone he loves can make it back relatively unscathed. Grieving will be better than dead. 
He whispers his prophecy under his breath. All of Faerie will fall under her shadow when she reaches her full power. It applied to his ancestor and it must apply to him too. He only hopes that he’s doing the right thing, that this will prevent a disaster. There’s a smear of white in the corner of his vision. 
It’s Livvy, floating some distance away above the heads of some Shadowhunter Academy graduates. She stares right at him, face unreadable. He wonders if she can sense his incoming death, intentional or otherwise. If she even has that power. 
She tilts her head, appraising. He settles on giving her a two-fingered salute. Even though she can’t make out the details of her face, he feels like she blinks before she disappears back into the crowd.
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“Were you talking to your sister?” I said.
you've no idea, emma dear, you've no idea 🥲✌️
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Ty to Dru
Hello Dru,
I’m back from London, and Julian and Emma told me to tell you “hello” and also “they send their love.” But that is not the important part of the letter, which is later. But you shouldn’t skip to that part, I will explain why soon.
Blackthorn Hall is actually pretty cool. It’s big and it’s old, and lots of parts don’t work properly yet, but Emma and Jules have done a lot to make it nice. There’s lots of bedrooms. I picked out one for me, which they called the “gray bedroom,” but honestly all the bedrooms are kind of gray. They said it’s so we can paint them if we want, they’ll be our rooms and we can decorate them how we like.
You’ll have to pick out the one you want when you visit, but I found one that I bet will be your favorite. It overlooks the gardens which I think will be the last thing to get fixed up, and so will continue to look creepy for a while. There are all these broken statues with plants grown over them, like they were trying to kill the statues. Like they succeeded in killing the statues. It looks like if you went walking down there the vines would wrap around you and pull you underground. You’ll love it. 
I didn’t sleep well before we traveled to London and now I think it was because I was worried. Anush says our bodies often tell us how we are feeling even when our minds aren’t conscious of it. Like feeling nauseated before an important test. You probably know what I mean.
But it was good. Especially to see Jules and Emma. I hadn’t realized how much I missed them until I saw them. I think I felt it like Anush says, like a weird pressure in my chest that went away when Jules hugged me. Maybe it’s the same for you. Or maybe you already know how much you miss them. Anyway I thought it was important to say I also miss you and it’ll be nice when we can all be in the same house together again. I think Irene will like it there too.
Ragnor’s map did actually help, so it was good he came. He found a couple of places in London to check for more of those cursed objects, so that’s one step closer to un-cursing the house. I know, it would be cool to live in a cursed house. But it wouldn’t be fair to Rupert the Ghost, since he’s trapped there because of the curse. And anyway there’s all this renovation work that the builders won’t do until the curse is lifted. And it would be good if the house’s roof didn’t leak. That might be a little too gloomy even for you.
Now we’ve talked about the bedrooms, the house, and Ragnor, so if anyone asks you can tell them those are the things we discussed. We are now at the part of the letter where I have to tell you important things but I wanted you to have information you could share in case someone asked you if you had heard from me. I mean, if someone important asks you. If someone we don’t know asks you, Anush says you can say “Make like a tree and leave,” which I don’t understand but he says will definitely work.
So, the important part. Rupert the Ghost. I wasn’t really thinking when I wrote up above that it will be nice for us to all be together. I mean, it will be, but it’s not quite that simple, at least for me. See…Rupert saw Livvy. She wasn’t hiding or anything, and she didn’t act surprised that he saw her. But I’ve spent so much time worried about other, you know, living people finding out about her. It hadn’t even occurred to me that of course there are ghosts everywhere, all over the world, and they’ll all know she’s there. The ghosts here at the Scholomance know about her, of course, but Edvard and Prudence keep to themselves and nobody really pays attention to either of them. Prudence is always in the library pretending to shelve books (or actually shelving ghost books, I can’t tell) and Edvard paces slowly through the halls and barely ever talks. Sometimes he moans, but that’s just him complaining.
Rupert and Livvy had a couple of conversations with just the two of them, I guess about ghost stuff. She says she made him promise that he wouldn’t say anything about seeing her, but ghosts can lie. So what if he says something to Emma or Julian? What if he can tell that something is weird with the way Livvy is a ghost and he mentions that?
The thing is, it’s not just Rupert. Even if he stays quiet, I already almost made Emma suspicious by talking to Livvy myself. I had to tell her I was talking to you on the phone. I know about Rupert and I know about Edvard and Prudence, but there could be ghosts anyplace I go, and if someone else is there and they start interacting with Livvy I’m going to have to explain. I got used to Edvard and Prudence ignoring her but Rupert drifted right into the bedroom and asked her who she was.
Livvy says I shouldn’t worry. She reminds me that any Shadowhunter can see ghosts who want to be seen, like Edvard and Prudence, but that it’s much harder to see a ghost who doesn’t want to be seen, and that’s most ghosts. She says Rupert wanted to be seen — first by Emma and Jules and then by Livvy and me, though only Livvy's seen him really clearly— but if he didn’t, I’d never have known he was there. She says she’s able to hide herself from almost all people (even Jace, and he has latent ghost-seeing powers), and even able to hide herself from a lot of ghosts. And that even if they do see her, they won’t necessarily know who she is, it’s not like ghosts can just identify each other. And she says if she has to, she’ll just lie to them.
She said a lot of reassuring things. But it still gave me a cold feeling, which I think is my body telling my brain that I’m afraid. If Julian and Emma found out about Livvy, they wouldn’t just be angry. They’d feel like they had to do something, like lay her to rest. People don’t think ghosts can be happy, but Livvy is happy. She helps me with work and she tells me advice for Anush (he has a crush on Rayan’s sister Nasha) and when we’re alone we play games or I read to her. She can’t do everything but why would being all the way dead be better? Everyone calls it “rest” but no one really knows, do they?
Maybe you have ideas. Tell me if you have ideas.
Love,
Tiberius
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lilychxn · 4 months
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in case you’re wondering: YES I’m still thinking about smoker!julian (quotes are from GOTSM)
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rinadragomir · 5 months
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Oh well apparently Cassie just wants me to never recover 🤕 they're SO beautiful I'm crying
Official TWP art by Charlie Bowater: Livvi, Ty, Irene and my increasing sobbing
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bookaboutabook · 2 years
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what on earth was that. SOB(h) continues to kill me. as always here are my memes:
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screaming barfing crying.
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wikitpowers · 15 hours
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hold up i’ve seen a few convos about what dru’s weapon in twp should be and all i keep thinking about is that i want her to at least at some point in the series use livvy’s sabre, like can u imagine the impact that would have oof~~~
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The wait for TWP 💀🥲
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hopestrope · 1 year
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I think Livvy will go over to the dark side in TWP. We know that she is unhappy as a ghost: unable to interact with almost anyone but Ty, not being able to be with her family, never able to enjoy life, not having anything to look forward to. And knowing that this will go on forever. I think it will take a toll on her. She may do something bad and evil to try and get her life back. Maybe she will meddle with some dark magic to bring herself back to life in flesh and blood. Maybe she will try to take someone else's place like she tried with Mina. Maybe she will ally herself with an enemy in exchange for a way out of her situation. Or she will simply lose her sanity and cause harm to the people around her. I don't believe she will have bad intentions, but she will do bad things and she will be unable to see the damage she is doing. Or perhaps, she will be like Malcolm or Janus. A good person that became evil because of the pain that she went through and lost her moral compass in the process. I cannot be sure about the circumstances, but I think she may not be a "good" character throughout TWP. She may come back from it, but I think this is likely to happen. So... what do you think?
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tys-kitty · 6 months
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uniquecellest · 1 year
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Ty: It doesn't matter how I feel
Livvy: Why not?
Ty: Because I'm not the one he wants
Livvy: Ty, I love you, but you're an idiot
Ty: Livvy, I saw you two kiss!
Livvy: Because I asked him to, not because we have feelings for each other! Plus he said he loves you!
Ty: . . . .
Livvy: And not in the way you and I love each other or how we love Dru, Julian, Tavy, Mark and Helen but how Tessa and Jim love each other, Magnus and Alec, Simon and Isabelle!
Ty: . . . .I'm an idiot
This is all I need from TWP PLEASE
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pansexual-lilychen · 1 year
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so the “i didn’t choose this life - 1904“ writing in the scholomance as seen in GOTSM really lead absolutely nowhere, huh?
i know CC made the ending of chot less sad and changed a few things but i’ve been waiting for over three years to find out who wrote it just for it to lead absolutely nowhere whatsoever
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chaoticallymuse · 1 year
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Kit Rook Herondale
Kit guessed it was because he looked like Jace, if Jace had suffered a sudden and unexpected height, muscle, and overall hotness reduction.
I defy you, Shadowhunters, he thought, thumbing the top off the container and popping a cookie in his mouth. I mock you with my sugar cravings.
If you're asking whether I'm working out my emotional pain through a punishing physical regimen, my answer is obviously a manly yes.
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