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Season 1, Episode 1: Chapter 1 - The River's Edge These Aren't The People From My Polycule! (They Said What?)
[Ep. Statues: Already Watched/First Time Watching + Remember/Vaguely/Don't Remeber]
First off. It sort of slipped my mind that Jughead narrates the opening of each episode. Doesn't he become like a God type writer in the new season? Very Jensen coded of The CW to only know how to do one (1) thing.
Oh god that nasty "Welcome to Riverdale!" board.
Also I will probably be saying this a lot but what are these outfits? Cheryl and Jason are going for thier stupid little boat ride (really? A boat ride? In the morning? On July 4th?) dress all in white expect for Cheryl's bright red stilettos. Like no wonder first time watcher me though Cheryl killed her brother. All the white, the creepiness of the scene and the "are you scared Jason?" just convinced me Cheryl had ritualisticlly killed her brother in a fucked up horror movie girl kinda way. Instant way to make me stan her. Kinda disappointed she didn't (would now would also be a good time to mention that I completely forgot who actually killed Jason? Oops?). Anyway where is that AU? Where is that show?
"In those last moments I hope he suffered. May Jason Blossom burn in hell" ? Miss girl. Are we sure Betty's mom isn't the real family psychopath?
Also can we talk about Jughead in season 1. With his lil beanie and his camera. I'm like 90% he was written to be a movie nerd/buff then it was retconed to books and they never talk about it again? That was weird.
Lol okay so I forgot how privileged the Lodges are made out to be. But honestly, Veronica's mom? Kind of a MILF. Now that I think about it, aren't they like, the Riverdale Kardashians?
Girl naurrr the gay-bestfriend-ification of Kevin 😭💀. My mortal enemy. I will make Kevin a full fleshed character if it kills me. Kevin walked no-crawled so that Will from Stranger Things could stumble over to Mike only to be called a slur.
Also how old are these bitches supposed to be? 15 year olds do not look like that. What is in the water in Riverdale? Pfffff what am I talking about Archie is Just Like That TM.
Also something about the way the actors deliver thier lines. I can't explain it but it's hilarious. Maybe just cause it's the pilot and everything's a little stilted still.
Also I think Kevin wants to hit that (Archie). #LetKevinHitThat2022 #LetKevinBeArchiesGayAwakening2022
Oh Archie's music passion my beloved. I forgot that one too. Season 1 may not be as batshit as its descendants but it has it's gems.
Betty and Archie: having their disgusting little heterosexual talk
Me looked in the background: omg Pop Tate 😍😍😍
I used to laugh at the sketches of Riverdale on tiktok because the facial expressions were so greatly exaggerated. But nope, it's actually Just Like TM.
Omg Veronica's slow-mo entrance my beloved. Some would say it's over the top but honestly she's an icon, she's a legend and she is the moment. She deserves this.
Also I know I should be focused on the Archie and Veronica's meet-cute but there's this one shot of Betty's face that is absolutely sending me.
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Betty said gay rights because I'm going to be homophobic towards a straight couple.
ALSO FRED ANDREWS. I LOVE YOU. I LOVE YOU. ARCHIE STOP BITCHING AT YOUR FATHER.
Forgot just how... Karen-like Betty's mom was in season 1. I know it's out of worry but I can't wait for her character to flesh out (as much as it can on a CW show). Also I did not know Betty has ADHD?
Archie, honey, what is your handwriting. Okay, if Betty has ADHD then I want Archie to be dyslexic. They bond over being neurodivergent and mistake that comradery for love.
Nasty ass early season Chad Reggie 🤮🤮🤮. Where is my is my mafia bimbo meow meow. Give him to me now.
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What. What was this moment. ONLY The CW. I would only accept this moment if Veronica was wearing a little bi or pan flag. Hold on.
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Guys she sewed them on herself! (her mother taught her!) (I know it looks like shit alright I'm horrible at editing)
JOSIE! AND THE PUSSY CATS. Okay but genuinely they sound really good.
JUSTIN GINGERLAKE ??! Oh she's savage I love her. Also Josie and her girlies all use she/they pronouns because I said so.
Also the way Veronica talks. How does Camilla Mendes pull it off. What ever they're paying her, double it.
"Are you two dating?"
"No we're just friends."
"No he's straight.'
I stand by my earlier statment, #LetKevinHitThat2022
Oh god. The one plot line I wish I could desperately forget is the one where Archie fucks his music teachers. How is nobody noticing these 2 eyes fuck infront of the entire gymnasium.
Oh Fred and Hermione 😔
"Is cheerleading still a thing?"
"Is being the gay best friend still a thing?"
Shots fired. I am loving the mlm wlw hostility. At least The CW got gay on gay violence right.
Cheryl? Body shaming! What year is this?
They're trying to make me like or feel sympathy for Grundy and it's not working. I'm just waiting for her to leave.
Okay no actually I need her to DIE. A student is asking for help because he's feeling guilty and scared of something he's witnessed but your saying no because you fucked him? 🔪🔪🔪
Beronica kiss hello? Young sapphic me blocked this out because they could not deal with the emotions and revelations this brought her. Also this is beginnings/foundation of the Riverdale polycule. Also that kiss was.... a little longer than necessary 😏.
Cheryl is not impressed tho and honestly good for her. But that baiting scene. Sheesh I'm not one to judge be get a better coping mechanism honey. Betty's half moon scars I remember vividly. I wonder if they ever resolved that plotline.
Also. VERONICA ACTUALLY POPPED OFF NOT CLICKBAIT!???!!!???
WE COME AS A MATCHING SET? I AM THAT RECKONING? SORRY CHERYL BOMBSHELL MY SPECIALITY IS ICE?
I am losing it. Is this Riverdale's version of "Freedom is a lenght of rope and God wants you to hang yourself"?
Nope, now I've lost it. That scene! Where Veronica is zipping up Betty's cheerleading outfit and the sweet music is playing and they're all smiles and giggles and she turns around and Veronica compliments her and Betty just touches her in the same way Veronica did her even though Veronica was already set! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GOODBYE! The entire show could end right here and I wouldn't care. Also, I see you Veronica's black nail polish.
Oh Betty and Veronica's little chat after that felt very very real. Oh no this Supernatural all over again. Shit show, good moments that keep u coming back.
Okay Betty's mom is giving my mom vibes and that is not okay.
Fred's words to Archie about his future are ringing really true and are a really fresh and good twist on the parents dont support the kids passion trope.
Maybe this first season is actually good? Skdjkskdjd nah.
Omg our favourite trouple doing their entrance!
"What does your heart say?"
Archie: *looks over at Grundy*
Me: Come on, Grundy?!
Archie: *demands lessons*
Me: Oh he chose music!
Oh god.... I keep pausing the fantasy couple scene because I just can't.
Veronica and Kevin, mouthing: ask him about the polycule!
Betty, who can't read lips for shit: power couple? 🤔
The absolute silence on Archie's side. WHY did he look at Grunkle what's her face.
Let's see who's riding the ginger stallion tonight? WHO IS WRITING THESE SCRIPTS?
"Who are you asking for, you or Betty?"
Me: SAY BOTH
Veronica: *doesn't say both*
Me:
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Me watching Archie and Veronica kiss even tho the polycule is in shambles before even fully forming:
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Veronica and Hermione's relationship. God I wish I had something like that.
"Archie went looking for the girl next door. Instead he found me." Okayyyy, it's giving Jarchie.
Archie and Jughead's scene. First of all Jughead's dark humor. Love it. The talk to her. It'd go a long way. It'd have went a long way with me. Ooof. But also what did happen? Omg gay coming out went wrong!
Me watching the "I can't give you the answer you want" scene trying to focus on literally anything else but the forced monogamy in front of me: huh the way they shot this reminds me of the "I was there where were you scene".
Okay but let's put a pause on the polycule and talk about Barchie. Archie says something along the lines of "You are always perfect, I could never be good enough for you" and earlier on Betty said she's sick of being perfect, the perfect x,y,z for everyone else. I don't know if she's realised this but that may include being the perfect love interest for Archie. And Archie perceives her as Perfect when Betty just wants to be perceived. So if they were ever to get together, polycule or not they'd need to work past that.
Oh Moose. Didn't he just fade into the background as the show moved on or did I just forget him?
Oh Jason? Neat ig. Was he shot and his body dumped after the lake was searched? I can't even remember.
Unhinged rating: 3/10. There were some moments (mostly from Cheryl) mostly from the dialog and things I'd forgotten but this episode is really tame reconsidering my expectations for later seasons.
Tag list (you can ask to be added [or removed] though I doubt anyone will ask: @youre-only-gay-once
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cirque-dhomosexual · 8 months
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Lacy, Heather, and Betty: the jealous gay yearning trifecta (bonus points for being named after a woman)
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ggigigoode · 1 year
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don’t say i don’t treat you <3
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ethory · 1 year
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hudbannonarchive · 1 year
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i think one of the reasons i love betty so much is that her arc kind of reminds me of the age of innocence like the idea of a repressed unhappy character who's fundamental unhappiness is caused by the rigid societal norms that they're forced to conform to, only for those norms to crumble and disappear once the character's life is already ruined. what's even sadder about betty is that every time she goes to someone for help (her therapist, her husband, glen bishop) they reinforce the idea that her only purpose in life is being a housewife and stay at home mother, the root of her misery. it's interesting because betty is widely characterized as being old-fashioned, rigid, and obsessed with appearance. all these things are true, but people seem to understand these traits as bearing the responsibility of her unhappiness rather than being symptomatic of them. betty clings to old-fashioned gendered expectations of womanhood because it validates her own miserable existence, she's resistant to change because she doesn't believe it will improve her circumstances, and her obsession with making everything look nice and pretty is a distraction from the gaping emptiness of her relationships. i don't think the tragedy of betty's character comes from a refusal to change with the times, i think it comes from preparing her whole life to play a role she hated, only for the significance of that role to be wiped out in the space of her lifetime, leaving her with nowhere else to go.
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urmomsfavelesbian · 2 years
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she’s JUST like me fr!!!!!!!!
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daydreamerdrew · 2 years
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The Incredible Hulk (1968) #170
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abhorsenkatiel · 2 months
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Just finished watching the new Adventure Time: Fionna and Cake and I really want to say how much I appreciated the way they handled the Simon and Betty relationship.
I legitimately cringed when they when went into depth about the beginning of their relationship. It was established back at the end of the original series that Betty had made a big sacrifice by giving up her expedition in order to stay with Simon, but now we also learn that she was a student and he was an established professor who she deeply admired when they met. The love between them was genuine, but there was also a very clear power imbalance. I cringed because I believed this would just go unacknowledged, as it does in so many stories, as if the authors are not even aware that such a power dynamic would have an impact on a relationship regardless of how real the love is. Or worse, that such (gendered) power imbalances are a natural thing to be expected in romantic relationships and are therefore not worth commenting on.
But then we get to episode 9, literally titled "Casper and Nova" after the hit-you-over-the-head-with-a-hammer obvious metaphor, and it becomes clear that it was absolutely the writers' intention to highlight and critique the power dynamic of Simon and Betty's relationship. Betty had already realized her part in the tragedy back in the original series, that she had given up her own life too readily and that she regretted it. But now we finally get acknowledgment of Simon's part, that he was irresponsible with Betty's love and devotion. That he didn't see how much he was taking and took for granted how much she was giving up. His tragedy is not that he passively lost Betty to some outside force, but that he made active choices which eroded her autonomy and didn't notice until it was too late. That their relationship, despite being genuinely and passionately loving, was unbalanced from the start, and he used that to his advantage and her detriment even if it was unintentional.
The gendered dynamic of this story is important too. I've met so many women throughout my life, even some who are my age now, who when you ask them about their lives come to a point where they shrug and say some variation of, "and then I met the man who I altered the course of my life for" and that's the end of their story. I remember hearing those stories when I was a child and something about the expression those women made or their phrasing, or their tone of voice gave me a visceral negative reaction. Some of them were openly bitter about it, and told me to never make sacrifices for a man, but even the ones who weren't bitter, who seemed to be happy in genuinely loving relationships, would still give some sense of longing or regret when it came to that part, like they were still thinking about what their life could have been.
It's a common story for women. Even now it's still an expectation that we give up everything for love. It's romantic sure, but I appreciate that we have a story that really makes you look at the tragic side of it as well.
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echthr0s · 20 days
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"A while back, my grandma overheard me use the term C.O.D, and I explained that it wasn’t Cash On Delivery, but Call of Duty, and what first-person shooters are, and etc etc. Then a few months later, I came to visit her, and saw she had a PS4 set up in the living room with Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare paused on the screen. She made me a cup of tea and then went on a long rant about some kid spawn camping.
Quickly – what was your reaction to that? Adorable? Funny? Kick-ass? Now I want you to compare that to how you feel about a 35-year-old playing C.O.D. My position is that the gap between your feelings about the two images is roughly the depth to which you have a degree of condescension towards old people. And I think a degree of condescension towards old people is almost universal in Western culture. (This piece is 100% incited by me realising I have it myself.)
When old people use memes, or listen to gangsta rap, or do anything outside of their stereotype, there’s an air of “aw, it thinks it’s people!” to our reactions. We would largely not find this acceptable if it were any other demographic (women, black people) acting in non-stereotypical ways.
The entire cult obsession with Betty White is that she swears and is sexual. But… why shouldn’t she swear? Why is that weird? Why is that funny? People were swearing when she was growing up. They were having sex. Old people are just you, but for longer. (It's hard not to sound trite, sorry.)
(This matters by the way, sorry to be a downer, because old people are often abused, and sometimes it’s because people have condescending attitudes to them and don’t listen to what they say and make decisions on their behalf without asking them. You will recognise this attitude from sexism and other such isms. I was going to say "Don't treat old people like children" but we also shouldn't be treating children this way, so.)
Anyway my advice (to you and to myself) is try to catch yourself when your reactions to old people are different to what they would be for a younger person doing the same thing. Also if you’re feeling angry and defensive right now, spend some time with that feeling. If you really don't think what I'm saying applies to you then hey awesome. But i reckon you're in the minority.
(The story about my grandma is not true by the way. A true thing about her is that she is astoundingly knowledgeable about music because she worked in the music industry for decades. Another true thing is that pensioners contribute more to the economy in volunteering and unpaid childcare than they take away in the pension, but the kind of contributions they make are devalued oh hey does that also remind you of any famous isms?)"
-- McKinley Valentine, The Whippet #14
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lilacslug · 8 months
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The Crown As a Metaphor For Drug Use
THE PARALLELS
Ice King's Crown, which will be referred to as "the crown" in this post, has many potential interpretations. I've seen people view it as a metaphor for Alzheimer's and/or mental illness in general. I believe there is a strong case for it being a metaphor for drug use, especially with the the information Fionna and Cake give us.
There are a few parallels shown. Throughout Fionna and Cake, Simon's shame of his time wearing the crown is front of center. He tries to avoid thinking about it as much as possible. He threw a little girl's Fionna and Cake book away because confronting his time as Ice King was too much for him. He hates remembering his time as an "insane" man as he put it. We also see that Farm world Finn, despite only being in that state for a few years, is still haunted by his time wearing the crown. This shame is also present in those who have recovered from an addiction to drugs and/or alcohol. Many will feel ashamed of the out-of-character decisions they made when they were under the influence.
Sometimes, when people take large doses of certain kinds of drugs, they can develop "substance induced psychosis" which often involves (typically persecutory) delusions, memory problems, and can involve hallucinations. The crown made Simon insane, but it also made him feel happy all the time, kind of like a high. When he would get bouts of loneliness or other negative feelings, he would quickly forget what made him feel bad in the first place. His thinking was often detached from reality, and he had complete amnesia of who he was before the crown. He had "wizard eyes" that allowed him to see the spirit world, but made it more difficult to parse what was actually going on in his plane of existence. This could be thought of as a metaphor for hallucinations. While the crown isolated him from his loved ones, namely Betty and Marceline, he was able to make other new magical friends (near the end of the show). The same thing happens to addicts when they start using.
MAGIC, MADNESS, SADNESS, AND DRUGS
In season 6 episode 38 You Forgot Your Floaties the concept of "Magic, Madness, and Sadness" is discussed. Essentially, Betty states that she believes each magic user has varying degrees of Magic, Madness, and Sadness. It seems that if a precious magic user loses their Madness or Sadness, they are no longer magical. Magic Man in the same episode could no longer perform Magic after losing his madness and sadness. Those who pursue magic may become mad and sad due to it.
Notably, in episode 6 of Fionna and Cake, The Winter King, we are at first lead to believe that an alternate Simon was able to cast his Madness onto Princess Bubblegum, but still was able to retain the powers of the crown. This seems to contradict Betty's MMS theory, however, background details suggest otherwise.
We see that Winter King Simon has an ice version of Marceline as a child living with him. This suggests that sadness, a great sadness even, still exists within him. He is just in the bargaining stage of grief (whether he is grieving her death or her no longer being in his life due to another reason is unclear). When our Simon states that he misses Betty, Winter King Simon states that he "hasn't thought about her in a long time". Suggesting he is in denial about the loss of Betty or no longer cared about her. He also suggests that Simon should create an ice version of Betty when he gets the new crown. After seeing Simon's reaction, he then backtracks and states that would be "unethical". These are examples showing that he clearly retained the lack of empathy that Ice King had gained when he had the crown, and this same lack of empathy is seen throughout many other "mad" magical users (Magic Man and Betty come to mind). I believe that this lack of empathy is very intentional, and that this apathy is meant to be a manifestation of madness (and sadness). It would explain how Princess Bubblegum, a candy elemental, is somehow still a magic user (despite not believing in it). Her apathy, along with her neurosis are forms of madness. Her being separated from the mother gum caused her sadness. She still follows this rule. Marceline, a half demon half vampire, had an incredibly traumatic childhood. Her angst and lack of empathy she is introduced with at the beginning of the show are her manifestations of sadness and madness. This understanding of MMS is valid for most characters in the show. The magical characters that we see that aren't outright mad or sad have this general apathy (Jake even has this apathy at times). The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Lady Rainicorn, who we get very little screen time of.
THE REAL WORLD
But why is this relevant? Well, Madness and Sadness is a beautiful summary as to why someone would start to use drugs, and/or how someone would end up as a result of using drugs. Someone who is depressed or neurotic could turn to drugs to cope. Someone who was otherwise fine, when high out of their minds, can not care about the safety and wellbeing anyone around them. My mother was a user. I found out recently. She was incredibly depressed before I was born. She turned to weed, alcohol, and eventually crack and meth. Weed especially triggered paranoia in her. Long story short, she was put in rehab, and I'm proud to say she is more than 15 years clean. But, when she was using and I was a toddler, she neglected me to the point that I got taken away. Sadness and Madness: apathy is a manifestation of these two states. And these are all symptoms of drug use. And these are all symptoms of magic use. It's the same thing, a metaphor.
SIMON'S RELAPSE
There are a few common triggers that can lead to relapse. Some return to drugs due to outside pressure, or the isolation being clean brings. Just as ex alcoholics can feel isolated in a culture where alcohol is so prevalent, Simon feels isolated from this new magical world as a non-magic user. And now, just as a recovering alcoholic might fall into a binge after accepting one drink from their best friend at a party "they HAD to go to", Simon is longing for the crown so he can fit in again.
Sometimes people get addicted to drugs for a specific purpose. Maybe to help them be better at their job, or do better at school, or to help them relax. It is common, even years after someone stops using, to get the urge to relapse. If they were doing drugs for a specific reason, when that trigger comes up post drug use, they could get an urge to relapse. I believe we are witnessing Simon's urge to relapse in real time. Simon originally used the crown on a whim, but after that first time he would only use it to protect Marceline. Now, he has a problem: how is he going to help Fionna and Cake. This is similar to when he first started using regularly, then he needed to save Marceline from danger. So, his solution is to use the crown again. However, if we actually analyze the issue at hand, this is somewhat illogical. Fionna and Cake need to escape from the Scarab, and they need to somehow save their universe from being destroyed. This pursuit of the crown is actually not only unhelpful, but a waste of time. The crown WOULD solve the smaller problems of Fionna wanting a magical world, and Simon's feelings of isolation, but I do not believe it is the solution. And I believe that is the conclusion the show will come to as well. That seems to be the direction The Winter King seems to be pointing in.
Thanks once again to everyone for reading!!
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jessamine-rose · 10 months
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꒰ The Red Web of Fate ꒱
Just a short drabble loosely inspired by my fic The Spider and the Fly. Alternatively entitled “The reason why Yandere! Miguel O’Hara got angry when his darling noticed a familiar face in the middle of their forced fun, one-sided casual date in Nueva York.”
Tw:: yandere, obsession, kidnapping
Note:: Female reader, ATSV spoilers
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According to the laws of the Spider-Verse, there is nothing special about you and Miguel.
Legends speak of destined lovers, of soulmates connected by the threads of fate. It is this bond which brings couples together across time, across past lives, or more accurately, across the multiverse.
In every other universe, Gwen Stacy falls for Spider-Man. In many others, there is Mary Jane. As for the rest, it is Betty Brant, Felicia Hardy, etc., etc. whose relationship with Spider-Man constitutes a recurring pattern in the Spider-Verse.
Miguel O’Hara and ______ are not part of that pattern.
It is a scientific truth backed by physics and mathematics. It is what makes his Variants’ family, Miguel’s family with you and Gabriella, exclusive to a single collapsed dimension.
Prior to his loss, Miguel had already analyzed the data. In every dimension except one, the two of you are fated to never meet. There are versions of you who remain single, versions of you married to another, versions of you who never bumped into Miguel O’Hara on a sunny afternoon in the heart of Nueva York.
In every other universe, ______ falls for her childhood friend, an ordinary civilian whom Miguel first recognized as Gabriella’s godfather. He belongs with you in 53% of all universes, half of which include a son named after you.
Granted, there’s still a very low chance that you did end up with Miguel in another dimension, but that discovery would barely change the statistics. The conditions of your first meeting were random, coincidental, caused by specific conditions and chain reactions. The probability is near-zero.
Neither can he find you in Earth-928. Whatever the reason—death, nonexistence, the pure luck of living under his radar—you continue to elude Miguel. And even if you meet in the present, Gabriella’s existence cannot be replicated.
…Then again, the Web of Life and Destiny has never accounted for lovers from different dimensions. Such relationships have actually occurred without disrupting the Canon.
If the probability of your first meeting is <0.001%, then Miguel has no choice but to create a new event under different conditions.
If the red thread of fate does not exist between the two of you, then his webs can fill up that space.
If he cannot find you in his dimension, then another version of you will suffice.
*sobs* Why does Miguel O’Hara continue to torment me…….was 7.6k words not enough to satisfy him!! While his meeting with Variant! Darling in The Spider and the Fly is purely unplanned, the other parts of this post are relevant to their story. I just thought it would be interesting to explore Miguel's feelings in the event that their relationship is barred by even science and the multiverse >:3
Tag a Miguel O’Hara enjoyer!! @yanmaresu @yandere-romanticaa @yandere-daydreams @bweoo @kocherry @oofasleep @h2o2-and-baking-soda @yandere-wishes @curesi @weebsinstash @handsomeunderwear-art @literaree @pumpkin-toffee @mari-thesimp @miggyyyyohara @abyssalrot @letskidaddle
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youre-only-gay-once · 10 months
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Live betty reaction
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dig-jules · 11 months
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no thoughts just Betty White during the roasting of William Shatner
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LIVE RENE AUBERJONOIS REACTION
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frookiethesillybilly · 6 months
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ok this one is STRANGE but wholesome in a way It all started when I found out there was a cancelled episode where there'd be a The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack x Fionna & Cake crossover so, I basically tried coping by drawing a buncha stuff about it, there's another comic that takes place before this one where Simon & K´nuckles bond while they're drunk by talking about how miserable their lives are, but it's not done yet. Anyway, based on the mere idea that K'nuckles fell in love with his reflection once, I thought about K'nuckles accidentally developing a crush on Simon and being so ashamed about falling in love with a man that he hides inside a barrel (he's done this before until he loses interest) but Flapjack finds him. That's what this comic is about.
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if you read it till the end, I sincerely hope you enjoyed it :) I wanna clarify, this is not a pairing I personally ship, I think that if they were to be in a relantionship they'd just bring out the worse of each other. Also Simon would be most likely to reject him since he's too obssesed with Betty, and I don't blame him. It's just a situation where K'nuckles finds a little more about himself and learns to accept it thanks to Flappy <3 take this live Bubbie reaction as a bonus:
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mandyspeaks · 7 days
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How is BPD created from a BPD perspective
In my experience BPD is created through fundamental abandonment trauma, particularly with family. I can give an example to show how this functions.
Let’s imagine Betty lives on a planet far away, where it is customary for family members to always shake hands when they see each other. Betty sees other families doing this all the time. She sees her own family members shaking hands with each other. Yet for some reason, none of the family members will shake Betty’s hand. They simply refuse to and ignore her when she tries. Eventually Betty gives up trying.
When you’re a child, you often don’t have enough context for how healthy families work, to know that there’s anything dysfunctional about yours. In this case, the child is more likely to draw the painful conclusion that they are the problem. It’s not the adults for refusing to shake her hand, she must not be worthy of it. She internalizes this shame as a permanent core sense of self when relating to the world. She enters the world through the filter of “I’m not worthy. There is something inherently wrong with me.”
Later in life Betty falls in love and enters a romantic relationship. She finally has someone who will shake her hand upon greeting like she always wanted. Which possibly contradicts her feeling that she is not worthy.
For this reason her ego will hold on to this romantic partner in a way that idolizes them. They’re not just bringing her love, they’re validating her entire sense of selfhood.
One day her partner is in a bad mood and does not shake her hand upon entering their home. For couples that grew up in healthy homes, this would happen from time to time and be forgivable.
For Betty, she is actually reliving her childhood trauma of being denied a handshake. Her partner is not intending to hurt her, and cannot understand the seemingly disproportionate reaction.
Betty’s body is remembering all of the exact same sensations she went through when her own family would refuse to shake her hand. She is actively experiencing a PTSD flashback. On top of that, the experience is validating her core sense of shame and unworthiness.
Someone she once saw as someone totally different from those who betrayed her, is now acting the same way. To Betty, she feels like she cannot escape this pattern, because deep down, she is not worthy of having her hand shook.
Betty is in so much emotional turmoil during this flashback that she says angry and somewhat hurtful things to her partner. Her thoughts are racing and she feels like a hurt child again. In the moment, she feels that she is doing what she can to reveal this deep seated pain to her partner, which is so painful that it comes out laced with anger and betrayal that is not solely from this moment, but decades deep. She isn’t just speaking to her partner in this moment, she is speaking to her family members who neglected and abandoned her.
Betty tells her partner she doesn’t want to speak to them anymore. Betty does not feel she is worthy of having her needs met, so she has to find another way to get them met. By pushing her partner away, part of her hopes that they will “realize” the truth of her pain and validate it. But her partner doesn’t understand why she is having such a strong reaction.
Eventually the PTSD flashback will fade away and for Betty it will feel like she is coming down off of a bad drug mixed with an angry panic attack. and Betty’s rational mind will start to see the situation as it is. For a BPD person an argument can feel like waking up with a bad hangover and seeing you texted your ex, but worse. It’s waking up to reality and seeing you have said things you know are unreasonable and pushed away the one person who showed you love.
The truth of BPD is that to an outsider, our behavior may seem unreasonable and difficult. But to that person, there are many layers of trauma and context that have led to these specific rejections being profoundly painful, especially when coming from someone you love.
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Also let’s talk about how the crown affected Farmworld Finn and the Winter King
Finn Mertens isn’t the warm(get it), happy guy we’re used to. He’s still protective and badass, but he stays out of trouble. Some of it is clearly just the world he lives in — the Farmworld isn’t the safest place overall — but he shuts down at the mention of the crown. The opening scene of Destiny shows the “Snowman” attack a family, including a baby, potentially killing them — even if he doesn’t really remember that (like Simon only has fuzzy memories of being Ice King), the knowledge alone is enough to haunt someone for the rest of their life
Winter King, meanwhile, was clearly living in denial — he redirects attention to all the gifts he could give than focus on his time as Ice King, he refuses to admit the awful thing he did to his Princess Bubblegum, and he claims not to remember Betty before suggesting Simon replace her with magic. This last bit, he tries to play it off as a joke and calls it unethical, but we see an Ice Marcy in the castle — he’s aware that the shit he pulls is messed up and he’s fine with hiding it.
The thing is, he lived with the curse for like 900-ish years before finding a way to offload most of the curse onto another person. Candy Queen is a danger to him, and even if she isn’t he clearly doesn’t enjoy her being around him. But he’s choosing to let her keep existing — he’s chosen for years to let someone else suffer the way he suffered, because he’d rather face inconvenience/danger/the knowledge of how fucked up his actions are than go back to the crown
Let’s look at how these two compare to Simon — while he’s overall been more alright with talking about the way the crown affected him than Finn Mertens, he’s also willing to go back to it. Sure, Ice King doesn’t have the weight of fairly recent human murders on his back, but the guy was technically a villain and did hurt people. On the other hand, neither of them are coping with the crown’s aftermath well. Finn and Simon both seem to have unhealthy relationships with alcohol to cope with the crown — Simon’s shown binge drinking and seems to be a regular at the bar. Finn on the other hand has children and is clearly doing his best to provide to them, so I doubt he gets wasted often, and the one time Jay said he did, it seemed like an accident, but it’s notable that the only time he was willing to talk about his trauma was after he had gotten drunk
That lack of warmth (get it lol get it) I mentioned earlier is something they both share as well. Finn still has his Jake and clearly loves his dog, but he pulls his daughter away from Jake to have her do chores, even though Jake was clearly itchy and very much doesn’t have the strength or flexibility to properly scratch the itch. Finn’s children are well cared for, but quiet. They clearly don’t expect much affection from their father, and seem pretty used to him being unhappy/short with them. Simon, meanwhile, shows remorse for making Astrid cry but doesn’t make up for it when she returns. He isn’t reaching out to Marceline, even though she’s basically his daughter and would totally welcome him around (plus Bubblegum seems pretty happy to hear from him as well). It had only called back later or something, they could’ve talked about how he was trying, he clearly was, but he still needs help.
They also share an aversion to cold it seems — Simon’s reaction to the ice in his drink, all the times Finn Mertens stares into open fire (though maybe there’s a chance his wife could’ve been the Farmworld’s equipment of Flame Princess, but you gotta admit this series is really leaning into Finn/Huntress Wizard). It’s notable that, after wheedling ice magic as a teenager, the adult Finn Mertens builds a flamethrower into his prosthetic arm
Simon and Winter King, meanwhile, have some interesting parallels in how they treat Fionna and others. Simon’s so at the end of his rope and not coping that he’s willing to return to mental hell, essentially go though with magical suicide, under the guise of helping Fionna and Cake. Sure, his desire to help them is genuine, but his self sacrifice here is deeply unhealthy. Winter King is meanwhile behaving horrifyingly selfish, but with equally desperate motivations (the PB/CQ situation), and he’s hiding behind it by giving out presents and entertainment. He’s genuinely fulfilling Cake and Fionna’s wishes, and is sincerely trying to fulfill’s Simon’s “need” for a new crown. He’s gleefully giving them tours and playing games and inviting Simon into his lab. Shoot, he doesn’t have to use magic to give Cake Wi-Fi but he does anyway
The difference is that Simon is doing something self destructive with his need to help Fionna, while Winter King is distracting from how destructive his actions are by giving Fionna what she wants
Then there’s their respective Bettys. Simon’s not coping with losing Betty, like, at all. She either doesn’t exist anymore or she’s more or less become a god. He’s trying to summon a way to her instead of living his life. Winter King meanwhile is acting like Betty meant nothing to him. Sure, he’s had at least a hundred years to properly work through her death, but like. He’s a Simon. And he seems to have even less of a support system than our Simon — his only friends are a couple of ice people he made. Dude totally hasn’t sat down with his grief to work through it. He clearly isn’t letting the past go even though he’s acting like it doesn’t matter to him (the Ice Marcy thing)
I don’t have a conclusion, other than like. Ya know. The crown hurts people. And clearly the multiverse doesn’t have a therapist that specializes in helping people working through that pain
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