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broadwaycutie16 · 8 months
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Words cannot desribe how frustrating it is to listen to Adrien Salters who are also Lukanette Shippers use the deconstruction of the Nice Guy trope to prove that Adrinette is toxic (all on Adrien’s side, of course) while Lukanette is the superior ship, when the Nice Guy mindset is the foundation of Lukanette.
Adrien Salters who ship Lukanette: Adrien is such an entitled jerk! He’s a textbook example of the so-called Nice Guy who thinks that the girl owes him her love or at least a chance at a relationship just because he treats her well and is open with his adoration! That stuff doesn’t entitle him to her affections! He doesn’t deserve any of her love!
Also Adrien Salters who ship Lukanette: Why isn’t Luka Marinette’s main love interest instead of Adrien? He’s such a nice guy! He treats her so well and so openly adores her! Marinette owes him a real chance at a relationship instead of just chasing after a jerk! He actually deserves her love, unlike Adrien!
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iwasbored777 · 1 year
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Literally any Love Square kiss we got so far whether in another timeline or a dream or canon was far more romantic than anything Lukanette and Adrigami gave us after two seasons of built up and being canon for an episode. Like even though Marichat too had a whole episode focusing on why they can't be canon just like L and A it was still way more romantic than what these two ships did in both episodes combined. How tf was I expected to ship them instead of LS tell me?
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elmadrwnette · 1 year
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I can't be silent anymore.
lukanette is a bad, overrated and toxic ship.
why do many people like this ship? don't get me wrong, but he's disgusting. firstly, Luka and Marinette are even visually more like brother and sister. secondly, Luka is like an older brother to everyone there.
Why do I think this ship is toxic? because this is the ship of a rag boy, and his favorite girl who constantly wipes her feet on him.
Yes, Luka is a rag.I understand that he loves her, but there must be at least a drop of self-respect? smile when your favorite girl calls you by the name of her favorite guy
to date her, realizing that she is just taking advantage of you
marinette doesn't need this Luka, she never loved him, she just tried to forget herself in him, forget Adrien, but nothing came of it. she remembers who Luka is only when she needs something from him, like advice. the rest of the time she literally doesn't care, she came to him for love advice, knowing that he loves her. and after that you say it's a healthy ship and they would have a better relationship?☠️☠️
and also kill comments such as: "they should be the endgame" FUCK, THE SERIES IS A LOVE STORY OF ADRINETTE, THERE CAN'T BE ANY LEFT SHIPS. and if you don't like what the series is built on, specifically Adrinette, why are you watching it at all?
my ass burns when I see Lukanette fans. people just don't understand that this is a bad ship, and that Luka and Marinette don't suit each other romantically.
and by the way, before you make claims to me, remember that my hatred for lukanette is not because I love Adrinette, but it's just that lukanetteflop fans often use the phrase "inadequate fan of Adrinette" as an argument, huh, it's stupid and that's not the point. I'm just thinking adequately.
waiting for hate to me, floplukanette fans 🥰
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gameguy20100 · 1 year
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🔥Lukanette
It's unhealthy for Luka to be so single mindingly devoted to Marinette.
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sugarshackpeasant · 2 years
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5 and 15
5. Has fandom ever ruined a pairing for you?
lukadrien
they’re just bland (and personally, adrino is just better)
15. Unpopular opinion about the manga/show?
here’s the ones off the top of my head
- marinette is a great protagonist
- chloe doesn’t deserve a redemption arc
- lukanette wasn’t as healthy as ppl make it out to be
- lukanette is overrated
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ladyofthenoodle · 2 years
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It's rich coming from the same people who like to scream Marinette is a Mary Sue, zero flaws, absolutely no character or depth to her other than having a crush on Adrien when they praise Luka's character as if he ever had anything to him. Boys can be one dimensional simps, but the fandom draws line at a gIrL being head over heels for a reason and FOR A REASON. He had no right to say, "it made me love her more" considering that he did nothing to help her.😤
i’m convinced these people haven’t actually watched this show since season 2 when luka was introduced. they saw the world’s blandest unwashed white boy, consumed an enormous amount of lukanette fanfic that demonized adrien and also shamed marinette for her feelings on adrien. because if you look closely at any adrien salty lukanette shippers, you’ll find they hate canon marinette just as much as they hate adrien, and decided to use her character design as a blank template to write in a trophy girlfriend for saint luka. if they’re still watching canon it’s clear they don’t care about it and actively reject canon characterization in favor of the one they’ve made up, so of course their interpretations are contradictory to what’s on the show.
and before anyone gets their panties in a twist about this, please reread and see that i specified that i’m talking about the salties (as anon asked), don’t go vaguepost acting like i’m saying this about anyone who likes luka and/or lukanette because i very much did not say that.
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dizzying-faust · 2 years
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Luka//nette stans are the embodiment of why you shouldn't let shipping affect how you do analysis of TV shows. Because you still got them making bad takes, especially regarding Adrien, all because they are still salty Marinette didn't end up with the blue guitarist guy.
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aliensunflower-fics · 5 months
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My Recommended Fic List
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So, I got this ask awhile ago, and since I have been re-reading a bunch of my old favorite fics as a way to cheer up after work I figured why not. This list will be long... and varied but mostly its older fics cuz idk there my favs. Now lets go:
Fashion Upgrade - By @soap-lady : Straight up one of my favorite fics ever, its fun, its creative, it never fails to make me laugh when I need something warm and wholesome after a bad day. Also go check out the rest of her stuff there's so much good okay like shes just a writing queen. Shes on AO3 I don't want to spoil you on her other stuff just GO experience it for yourself.
Ode To Decoy pt 1 / 2 / 3 - By @a-marlene-s : Ive always liked this short sweet little fic about Lila getting caught. Its Lila + class salt though so avoid if that's not your flavor.
EVERYTHING - By @unmaskedagain : They have salt, they have sugar, they have funny, they have crossovers. Like honestly they are a just a great writer with so much variety so go check out the masterlist I linked and I guarantee there will be something there you like.
@ravennm84 Is a writer on the saltier side but they have a wonderful selection of weird wacky tales from the salty but oh so well written Damning Evidence that sees Lila get caught in the best way to the 3 part Horror inspired Serafina other great fics from them include Marinettes Family Court Circus pt 1 / 2 and Of Moldy Bread and Cockroaches / Be Kind to Servers honestly its worth giving there blog a look.
@mochinek0 Is another writer with several beloved fics. They write a lot of Maribat and we love them for it. Ones to check out would be Blind Date / Bruce vs Gabriel just go check out there tag list of daminette for more.
Accidental Crime Boss Marinette - By @lady-literature : This is a wonderful idea and a wonderful little fic and I just... I just like it okay. Sadly I haven't read a lot of there other stuff... But I might after finishing this list considering how much I enjoy this one.
@nobodyfamousposts I love a LOT of there fics. They are one of the best when it comes to striking that sweet spot of calling out the show for some of its garbage while not getting so salty that you cant have fun lighthearted goodness. I have been looking for a masterlist of there work but cant find one so just go stalk there tags. I do recommend there Chloe's Lament Series 1 / 2 exploring how certain 'wishes' would backfire. Guardian Assistant Kevin is also a good one Miracle Queen Aftermath pt 1 / 2 / The 8 parter Burn the Witch series / The Wisdom Teeth Reveal / Kagami Vs The Wall of Faces / Resigning With Grace & Spite / I tried to give a lot of links cuz they have a lot of stuff
Kill Them With Kindness - By @luki-fanfic : Well written, good salt without going overboard. Just good vibes. I havent stalked there other stuff but if its anything like this fic its probably excellent quality.
Stephen Vladislav pt 1 / 2 - By @stormiclown : Adrien centered salt on the idea of finally giving Adrien his own proper rival. I like the idea of Adrien having a rival because its usually Marinette and this was just the right length to get those creative ideas flowing. Also just well written what more can you ask for.
Power Trip - By @storygirl000 : This was the first fic that made me go... Wait would it be more fun if Lila was actually competent? And that set me on the path to writing my own fics where Lila is more villainous and more capable. Its short, well written. Good.
Your Wish is My Command - By DemiGoddess28 on AO3 : A great 11 chapter fic looking into Lila's life if she were to win and get a miraculous wish. Its got sugary goodness for our protagonists and the class and salt for our dearest friend Lila.
LadyBugOut AU - By Miraculous-Content on AO3 : A 50 chapter fic made up of snippets and ideas. I found it really inspiring in many ways. I also love how it redeems Marinettes classmates showing how and why they were tricked but holding them accountable anyway its just... Good.
Juleka vs The Forces of the Universe - By goldenlaurelleaves on AO3 : For those of us not yet ready to accept the death of luka/mari we have this wonderful fic showing Juleka being the biggest wingman as she helps these idiots find there way together.
ChaoticNeutral on AO3 has there own Chloe's Lament fic as well as a Gabriel's Lament fic for people who need sweet salty of those two characters.
BroadwayCutie16 was Inspired by the person above and DemiGoddesses your wish is my command fic to write Lila's Lament fic going over Lilas failed wish. Honestly I always love these fics because there just so interesting and the way wishes can be taken and twisted is always a fascinating idea to me.
#WayneAngel - By Tired-Writing-Teach on AO3 : For us Maribat lovers. Its fun and lighthearted with some good gags and some light fluff.
Damian in Paris - By Lilliesandliveries on AO3 : A sweet Maribat series showing what would happen if Damian ran away from home and found himself in Paris and getting therapy.
How a Demon Commissions an Angel - By AlixAnonymous : Damian blackmails Marinette into letting him be her client so he can get his bros the best gifts, they end up becoming penpal buddies.
Mythomania - By LadyEnna_50 on AO3 : Proof that I dont hate Adrien or Mari/Adrien. In this fic Adrien's spine gets titanium plating and he sees just how bad Lila is hurting Marinette and does something about it.
The Contingency - By AbyssalGuardian on AO3 : SALT. Also Tim/Mari but even still I love the way this was written, the style, and some of the ideas just ugh love it. Its not for those who dont like salt so just avoid at your own discretion. Its about a chaotic Marinette done with her life running away to Gotham where she meets her true black cat, and gets her life back on track.
The String That Binds Us - By FaithAndATypeWriter on AO3 : Okay so is there any Mari/Bat fan who hasnt already heard of this one? Who cares its good, its cute, I love it. May the author be blessed with snacks.
The Great IKEA Game - By @batsandbugs : Okay again... I think every Mari/Bat fan has probably heard of this one already because its just that good and that popular. But who cares I am recommending it anyway. Don't read if your allergic to fun I guess.
If this list still doesn't somehow have enough salt for you then try @goggles-mcgee fics here is a link to there Masterlist. They are in a way a professional at salt and angst and they make you want to adopt Marinette and pop her in a blanket fort.
Honestly I could keep going but this list already feels so long for other great recs though I can link you to @jayphoenic who has some great Daminette Fic Recs and some Lila Salt Fic Recs!
Feel free to reblog this and add some links to stuff you would think I or others might like! Also lets just acknowledge how many talented authors the community has like wow.
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lovysmtalks · 8 months
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Adrien is the Ken of Daminette and every other existing ship with Marinette
I can't explain why or how, just "I'm just ken, where I see love she sees a friend" fits most of the usual daminette scenarios, OR any other ship.
#AdrienisKenough
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mc-lukanette · 5 months
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It was the day after the class seats had been swapped around, Marinette having since resigned herself to being moved to the back. She wasn't happy about being alone, but everyone else was with their own seats and the last thing she wanted to do was stir up a fuss again just to have it turned against her.
Making a case would've been less of an issue had she told everyone that she was actually no longer into Adrien and had an entire boyfriend to show for it, but Alya was too unpredictable in how she might react to that and the others hadn't seen her and Luka together long enough to understand. She loathed the fact that an infatuation of less than a year was what people were basing her character on - nowadays, she looked back on it like an artist who grimaced at their week-old work - but her private life was no one's business but her own. If she had to reveal it to convince people that she wasn't an evil person going after a "perfectly innocent" girl over a crush, then—
Well, normally she would say that it was her fault, but Luka had been firm about her not blaming herself for everything under the sun and she was really trying to stick to that.
Maybe being in the back won't be so bad, she thought, attempting to calm her mind. I feel, um... taller? That's something.
It wasn't helping.
"Alright, class," Miss Bustier called out, clapping her hands to earn everyone's attention, "before we start today, we have a new student who just transferred to our school and I'd like you all to give them a warm welcome."
A new student? Marinette shut her eyes and held back a groan, thinking that the current "new student" was already more than enough. If it was another Lila or Chloe, she might have to seriously consider bribing Master Fu for the fox miraculous so she could Mirage herself into class to avoid them altogether.
Also, as she was quickly realizing, the only available seat was next to her. This was a disaster, an absolute disas—
"Luka?" Juleka blurted out, uncharacteristically loud in her shock.
At the name of her boyfriend, Marinette's head jerked towards the classroom door, seeing him standing next to Miss Bustier like he belonged there. She blinked, glancing out at the hall as if the real new student would come in, but nothing happened. Even when she looked back at Luka, he met her gaze as if to wordlessly tell her that yes, he was there.
Just to make absolutely sure, she dropped her arms to her lap and pinched her forearm until it hurt.
After giving a general introduction that Marinette processed none of, Miss Bustier turned to Luka to ask, "Would you be alright sitting in the back next to Marinette?"
He nodded, not waiting to start heading up the stairs. Eyes, either curious or puzzled, followed him as he went, but he had his own eyes on his decided-upon seat.
Marinette could only continue gaping at him, even as he sat down and made himself comfortable. He eyed her, smiling softly, then reached out and slowly closed her mouth. The cheek caress that followed was so subtle and quick that no one could've caught it even if they were looking, but it finally brought her back to life.
Leaning towards him, she whispered in a panic, "Luka! What are you doing here?! How are you here?!"
He took a single glance at Miss Bustier, who was turned towards the chalkboard, then leaned in and whispered back, "I didn't want you to have to do this alone."
"But—!" Her face scrunched, mind racing in an attempt to understand. She'd told Luka about what happened with Lila, but that was only yesterday. For him to have found a way to transfer between then and now was—was— "That's crazy!"
He shrugged, unphased.
She gripped the table, as if it would give her the mental support needed to juggle the thoughts in her head. "You didn't have to go through all this for me! It's too much!"
That finally got a reaction out of him, but not in the way she suspected. He frowned disapprovingly, leaning in further and raising a hand between them to further muffle his words to others' ears. She felt his breath against her ear as he explained, "You're my girlfriend, Marinette; my girlfriend and my best friend. It's not 'too much' if it's what I wanted to do."
He left it at that, straightening up again and putting his focus towards the front of the class. She could only pout at him, hoping no one saw the blush on her cheeks.
It felt wrong, somehow. It was Ladybug who was supposed to swoop in to save people, not the other way around. She was the one who had to make choices on the fly to help others.
She could already hear Luka's voice in her head, shooting that idea down: "Ladybug can't be the savior all the time. Someone has to look out for Marinette too."
It was almost frustrating, losing a battle of words in her own head, but she'd be lying if she said that it didn't make her feel relieved to have someone who would back her up no matter what. Whether she chose to go after Lila or not, he'd be behind her the entire way.
She couldn't help herself. Checking to confirm that there still weren't eyes on them, she leaned up towards Luka and imitated his gesture, raising her hand between their faces. He'd seen the gesture out of the corner of his eye and tipped his head to listen better, but she kissed his cheek instead.
Pulling back quickly to look normal just in case the pecking sound had been caught, she dared only a single peek at Luka to catch his reaction. He was trying and failing not to grin, probably looking as if he was just very interested in the lesson to any outside eyes. It occurred to her then that, had they been in the front or middle rows, it would've been impossible to not be seen by anyone behind them.
Letting an imaginary Marinette in her mind cheer and jump around for her due to being unable to do anything even close to that in class, her thoughts screamed, Being in the back is the best!
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broadwaycutie16 · 1 year
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You wanna know something funny I realized.
Marinette treats Luka the exact same way salters complain she is being treated by Adrien.
Luka does everything for Marinette, always puts her first, never calls her out on her shortcomings, and pretty much worships her. And Marinette responds by taking Luka for granted, stringing him along, and basically only using him as a backup in case it doesn’t work out with her first choice, all while chasing someone who is seemingly unattainable and uninterested in ways that are extremely unhealthy and rather possessive and border on sexual harassment.
Which is basically the same way the fandom claims that Adrien treats Marinette.
And somehow, Lukanette is healthier?
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iwasbored777 · 2 years
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Why are Lukanette fans celebrating Luka hugging Marinette while she's actually talking about how she loves another guy- oh wait lol that was the entire Lukanette relationship in a nutshell 🤣🤣🤣
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miraculermarinette · 4 months
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I really need to get this of my chest but here I go\
I always see those takes abt how "Luka is a diet Adrien" when in reality, it's the other way around1
Adrien's ""new"" personality is literally just Luka??
He does his best to make her feel comfortable, he doesn't want to pressure her and do things she might not enjoy. He literally does the Luka thing of expressing himself through a fucking song. That he has written himself. Because he's just that good in music (like writing good songs is hard? you gotta be talented or at least practice writing songs until you write one that's actually good???)
It's also a more selfish and possessive version of Luka's confession.
"The melody that no one else hears but me..."
1. That's demonstrably not true. Adrien KNOWS that at least three other guys have had a crush on Marinette -- Nino, Nathaniel, and Luka -- so acting like, "No one else notices or appreciates her great qualities but me" is so arrogant.
2. It once again (unintentionally) demonstrates that Adrien has a very possessive view of love. She can't just be a musical note or melody that exists for its own sake, she has to be one that ONLY HE can hear; only he can appreciate.
Luka compared her to a musical note or a melody, but never one that only he can hear, or play, or appreciate. He said, "You're the song that's been playing in my head since the day we met," true, but...
1. That's just a poetic way of saying, "I've been thinking about you since the day we met."
2. A song playing in your head is still a song that exists outside your head. "This song has been stuck in my head since I heard it on the radio" is a song that still exists out there for other people to enjoy. Often thinking about it doesn't mean the song is one that ONLY YOU can hear or understand.
Not only did Adrien copy Luka, but he copied him in a cheap and terrible way.
Adrien he took what was sweet, beautiful, private, and emotionally intimate about Luka's courtship and once again made it about HIS feelings; feelings of possession and ownership over a girl; grand public spectacle that puts her on the spot and pressures her to reciprocate but when she doesn't, SHE look like the heartless bad guy for "breaking his heart and humiliating him in front of all these people."
So miss me again with the "Luka is a diet Adrien" Bullshit!
It's also funny cause it's just saying that 'actually Luka is Marinette's perfect fit.
(sorry for it being to long)
EXACTLY
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blueberry-macaron · 3 months
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Hey, i'm bored, can u recommend me some adrien salt fics (Bonus points if it's lukanette)
Bonus for Lukanette? Looks like I’m getting all the bonus points😂 I mean I haven‘t really read any Adrien salt fics for the sake of reading salt as of recent but because it was a Lukanette fic that happened to also have some salt😂 so yeah they’re all Lukanette whoopsie
Also I don’t know what exactly you’re looking for but most of those aren‘t really super heavy salt? And several salt on other characters as well, so beware. I‘ll try my best nontheless, hope that works for you
From the top of my head, here‘s a few I can think of:
Juleka vs the forces of the universe by @goldenlaurelleaveswrites , multichapter. Juleka is fed up with Mari being „meant for“ Adrien and works against the forces of the universe to get Lukanette to come closer. Beware, it‘s more or less salt against… well, everybody😂
Choice chances by @miraculouscontent , one-shot. Takes place after 5x02. Mari hangs out with Luka and opens up about her not feeling like she has much of a choice for her life. Adrien is only mentioned
Dread string of fate by @miraculouscontent , multichapter. You probably know that one, in which case, go reread it. It‘s a masterpiece
Everything from @miraculouscontent really😂
The one to make it stay by @thesaltyoceanwaves , multi-chapter. S3 Lukanette au. I love everything about it
Live with it by @quickspinner , multichapter. Aftermath of Chat‘s fuck-up in the NY special
The Ladybug‘s knight by Nyx_the_dragon on AO3, one-shot. Chat is being his obnoxious and flirty self and Luka gets akumatized over it.
Patient by 19thcentury on AO3, one-shot. Also NY special salt with mild Adrien salt. He‘s only mentioned
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gameguy20100 · 1 year
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Main pproblem with Canon!Lukanette is that we (viewers) only see beginning and end of it, everything in-between "happens" during timeskip between season 3 and 4 (two-three months, from what I remember)
The main problem is that Luka has no personality traits or motivation besides his relationship with Marinette.
He plays guitar, he's nice, he likes Marinette, he hates secrets.
That's literally it.
Luka is a completely flat character that contributes nothing. But unlike other flat characters like Ivan, Mylene, and Kim. The show seems to try and give him a point and it never works.
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snitchesnsneeds · 3 months
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First Half of Miraculous Season 2 Done. Here's my thoughts:
The Collector: A pretty good start! They made the teens smart while still being dumb teens!
Despair Bear: Chloe needs a therapist, arguably moreso than a redemption arc and especially a downward villainous spiral. Also Dangit Grandpa
Prime Queen: Wow, this was a lot more chill than expected. Even Cat Noir was left aghast at what Nadja was doing, Nadja seemed to be pressuring Ladybug and Cat Noir more for views than anything else, and I'm not entirely sure Akuma personalities can be trusted.
Befana: Fun fact: This was the episode that got me into Miraculous in the first place because of how shocking it was. And then I discovered even more. In hindsight from watching the other episodes, it was relatively darker, but mostly because it's Marinette's friends and family that are getting G-rated killed instead of random civilians like every other episode.
Riposte: Kagami is here! I don't see too much chemistry with her and Adrien yet, but she's cool and I like her and feel like I could be friends in real life. Also this feels like a relatively uncommon trope, but I wish "X is blatantly a woman but no one notices" was spedran through by someone with brains.
Robustus: Pretty good, all things considered. From what I've heard about Miraculous lore, creating sapient or at the very least semi-sapient AI isn't that uncommon for weirdness hotspots, and I'm putting Max in the list of characters I think should have figured out Ladybug and Cat Noir's identity. (There's four now!)
Gigantitan: It turns out my favorite parts of Miraculous are the slice-of-life bits instead of the superhero bits the show is about! We got to see more of Marinette's friends! Alix! Mylene! Julie! The Eeby Deeby herself! Also it was really sweet to see Adrien's bodyguard calm down just by looking at the kid. Adrien's true daddy.
Dark Owl: No wonder these two aren't allowed to know eachothers' identities, considering how much of a loose tongue Marinette has!
Glaciator: Alright, it's finally time to talk about the sins of Marinette and Cat Noir, considering the fan content I osmosed before watching the series was heavy salt stuff, and I wanna see how much it holds up. So far Cat Noir has acted as if he's already dating Ladybug previously, and in this episode he got mad at Ladybug for not showing up at a date when she herself said she might not come due to having other plans. Isn't he supposed to be used to not-showing-up disappointment as Adrien due to his dad? Is it different because he's Cat Noir? Is this a breaking point? No matter, he eventually calms down and is ultimately the less bad member of the relationship. Marinette, meanwhile, doesn't have as many misdemeanors to her name but they're a lot worse. She stole Adrien's phone to get rid of an embarrassing message and got away with it too, what the hell, and also owns the schedule. Although I don't believe she stalked Adrien and made it herself due to how busy she is as both Marinette and Ladybug, that's just weird and wrong. I'm reluctant to call her a stalker, but her actions are still wrong. Ultimately, this relationship is going to need a lot of therapy and counseling to not crash and burn. What were we talking about again? Oh yeah. The ice cream episode. I think the ice cream guy can be wrong and he doesn't understand that.
Sapotis: Silly little fun episode, also it introduces the first new Miraculous holder! I'm honestly fine with it so far if it means more screentime for side characters. I honestly really like seeing Marinette's classmates. They're neat. Also I was this close to putting Alya on the list but she proves time and time again that she doesn't actually know Ladybug's identity.
Gorizilla: In this episode we are introduced to Adrien's deranged parasocial fanbase. I'm starting to understand some of his father's decisions at this point. This is what I was talking about with the schedule, by the way. These obsessive stalker creeps make Marinette look reasonable, and I wouldn't be surprised if the one guy who I'm pretty sure becomes Party Crasher discreetly stalked Adrien to get his schedule. Restraining orders need to be filed.
Captain Hardrock: One of the funniest episodes, up there with Dark Cupid. Also Luka is here! And he already has great chemistry with Marinette! And more Rosie and Julie content even if it's crumbs!
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