#mary de capet

[polarf0x]

Curse, Retribution, and Death.

This is not at all a new work that I did for the competition. It's reminds me in many ways that there is more to strive for, more to explore. But mostly, it reflects my love for the characters of this group.

Also, I'm new here on this site, and I'll try to develop my social skills a little and post a variety of content. Enjoy.

#identity v #idv #orpheus #alice deross #frederick kreiburg #melly plinius #norton campbell #nightmare idv #bloody queen idv #mary de capet #fool's gold idv #ashes of memory #aom #identity 5 #identity v fanart

[t0bey]

lillium and cyanus

#identity v #idv #lily barriere #mary de Capet #idv cheerleader #bloody queen idv #simon barriere #manus de capet #my art

[vivaesc]

Delusions that will have me sent to the white sand street asylum….

#identity v #idv bloody queen #idv prospector #norton campbell #mary de capet #mary idv #idv #fools gold

[sirenjose]

1 culprit behind the fate of Mary Kreiburg, the Racecourse tragedy, and Manus' disappearance?

Even though Manus said he would leave for Austria to talk to Mary's family, it seems he never arrived. That means something had to happen to him before the 27th. Could whoever was behind the rumors about Mary and Cyanus going mad have also caused Manus' disappearance?

Someone paid a lot to try to find Mary's body. Frederick said they only wanted the gem. As Mary's 4th letter says people made a "big deal out of a jewelry box" aka Blue Hope, did someone cause everything (Mary's death, Cyanus going crazy, and Manus' disappearance) for that gem?

No wonder Frederick says the gem is "cursed". Though that then makes me wonder why it is seen as "cursed"? What happened in the past to give it that sort of reputation? Besides we now have 2 people tied to it, potentially both Mary and potentially Manus, dead because of it...

(Yes of course my stupid obsessed brain again wonders if it was Count Barriere, who I also wonder if he was behind the DeRoss tragedy as well, considering that one also seemed to be at least somewhat financially motivated).

#idv #identity v #ashes of memory #mary kreiburg #mary de capet #manus de capet #frederick kreiburg #composer #idv frederick #identity v frederick #idv composer #identity v composer #sirenjose analyses and theories

[dohtollen]

I'll draw little frederick soon💝

#identity v #idv fanart #frederick kreiburg #myart #art #mary de capet #sketch #idv frederick #idv mary #idv au

[true-pr00f]

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Frederick gets some closure from his favourite cousin.

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❝ Dawn can't break when the sun has burned to a crisp. There must have been some supernova I missed. ❞

I read a theory somewhere that Mary's "affair" was just her meeting in secret with Frederick after his exile and kinda had to write this, it was just such a good idea. This fic was very personal to me and honestly surprisingly cathartic to write, even if I did write it while sleep-deprived to hell and back. Takes place during Ashes of Memory Part 2 and contains spoilers for it. Named after the song of the same name by Ferry.

#oneshot #general #frederick kreiburg #idv composer #mary de capet #idv fanfic #fanfiction #ao3 fanfic #archive of our own #writeblr #song: message lost (ferry w/ kyo)

[cannondisabledcharacters]

Today's disabled character of the day is Mary de Capet from Identity V, who has depression

[Image Description: She has long white hair and blue eyes. She is wearing a red dress with a yellow ribbon around the waist, white blouse, black ribbon around her heck, red hat with a purple flower in it, black gloves, red lipstick, and a blue broach. She is waving a white handkerchief in her left hand.]

#depressed character #Mary de Capet #Identity V #Identity V Mary #disabled character of the day

[digitalfashionmuseum]

Oil Painting, 1785, French.

By Adélaïde Labille-Guiard.

Portraying the artist with two pupils, Marie Gabrielle Capet and Marie Marguerite Carreaux de Rosemond.

Met Museum

#Adélaïde Labille-Guiard #Marie Gabrielle Capet #Marie Marguerite Carreaux de Rosemond #oil painting #painting #1785 #1780s #1780s painting #1780s France #France #met museum #1 #artist

[misscromwellsmonocle]

Self-Portrait with Two Pupils, Marie-Gabrielle Capet and Marie-Marguerite Carreaux de Rosemond (1785) by Adélaïde Labille-Guiard

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#Self-Portrait with Two Pupils #1789 #1700s #French Revolution #Adélaïde Labille-Guiard #art #sketch #Miss Cromwell #Marie Capet #Marie-Marguerite Carreaux de Rosemond #feminism #women's rights

[ourstaturestouchtheskies]

Portrait of Maria Dominica Ricci Seated in a Theatre Box Holding Binoculars – Emma Ekwall // Lady Nanne Schrader – Giovanni Boldini // Portrait of Mary Anne Bloxam – Thomas Lawrence // Mrs. Abington as Miss Prue in “Love for Love” by William Congreve – Joshua Reynolds // Portrait of Amalia Schmidt – Karl Vogl // Portrait of a Lady – Josef Abel // Portrait of Theresa Hannack – Adolf Pirsch // Portrait of D. Amélia de Beauharnais – Friedrich Dürck // Portrait of Anna Maria van Heekeren – Charles Howard Hodges // A Girl from Sorica – Ivan Grohar // Self Portrait – Marie-Gabrielle Capet // Never Ever – Lord Huron

#giovanni boldini #thomas lawrence #joshua reynolds #marie-gabrielle capet #marie gabrielle capet #portrait #portrait painting #portraiture #eyes #never ever #never ever song #never ever lord huron #vide noir #lord huron #art #art history #lyrics #lyric art

[pleasecallmealsip]

long post, because i'm confused and need help from my mutuals.

this. this really confused me. more well-read mutuals help me if you can:

i'm mostly sure "suggesting a constitutional monarchy" was not the sole reason de gouges was arrested, tried, and executed, and it could not be the main reason. jean-paul marat was once a supporter of constitutional monarchy. Supplément de l’Offrande à la patrie did end with a message of hope for louis xvi to sort every grievance out while still being king. (and it was not just marat, this support for constitutional monarchy was widespread before louis xvi made the questionable decision to attempt to flee the country.) de gouges was executed after louis capet was, and the possibility of having a constitutional monarchy by then was certainly not as high.

i'm not so sure about what is meant by "anarchist beheadings". beheading as a method of execution is not anarchist on its own. beheading existed before frev, as did many, many other types of executions. the english did in ireland some of those other types of executions during the last 10 years of the 18th century, that is to say, at the same time as the frev happened. and we do not use the word "anarchist" to describe english attempts at disproportionately criminalising the irish. so putting the word "anarchist" immediately next to "beheadings" is something i genuinely cannot figure out on my own.

national assembly (20 Jun - 9 Jul 1789), national constitutional assembly (the one that michel lepeletier worked in, 9 Jul 1789 - 30 Sep 1791), legislative assembly (the one that made divorce far more accessible than before, 1 Oct 1791 - 20 Sep 1792), and the national convention (21 Sep 1792 - 26 Oct 1795).

i don't think there was 1 position on the rights of women in any of these four. afaik the jacobins themselves were divided on how much social equality women could achieve. and the brissotins made the questionable decision to declare war on austria, which did not just mean that a very disorganised army was to be put into action, but that working-class women's lives were then affected by inflation and possible hoarding-and-profiteering of grains and of necessities.

again i have much more reading to do on this one.

many more women (e.g. louise-renée leduc, claire lacombe, pauline léon, théroigne de méricourt, félicité fernig, théophile fernig) had more stakes in the frev than de gouges did. often they would put their very lives on the line. their perceived femininity was not their primary concern, e.g. the fernig sisters kept being soldiers even when other soldiers were aware that they were women.

maybe as a tangent: mary wollstonecraft, despite her criticism towards the frev, was still much, much more welcoming of the frev than her theoretical opponent, edmund burke, and her A Vindication of the Rights of Woman was translated into french within a year of being published. wollstonecraft lived in paris from 1792 to 1795, and was not persecuted (partly due to the protection of an american man, but still if any suspicion came upon wollstonecraft, it would be because she was english, not because she was a woman or a feminist thinker).

with the exception of leduc, every woman mentioned here died after 1793. now i am aware that this is a small sample size, and misogyny definitely existed during the 18th century (not surprisingly), but i cannot find in any primary source evidence suggesting the existence of a systematic exclusion of outspoken women or women of action or feminist thinkers.

i am aware that suffrage and/or being part of the national assembly (later national constituent assembly, later legislative assembly, later national convention) were not the only ways of participating in politics. working-class women in the 18th century not having the right to vote was sad when compared to working-class women in the 21st century having this right. but they were allowed to influence the men in their communities to vote, which was fortunate when compared to the lack of the right to vote in general in the old regime.

my general grasp so far is that, any kind of written or spoken output during the frev had very real risks attached, because literacy was quite low, and many "readers" of newspapers or pamphlets heard the contents by others retelling what was read out at cafés. spreading misinformation, or using gross invectives as marat called it, was not just unhelpful, but possibly damaging to the organisation of the urban poor.

now personally i do not believe that de gouges deserved to be executed, but that is because i do not believe anybody deserved or deserves to be executed. (that's for a different post.)

if male journalists such as hébert were losing their lives for misleading their readers and for unnecessary verbal violence, however, then de gouges being subjected to similar levels of scrutiny was a sign of equality -- for men and women of letters at the very least.

voting rights for women being granted only in the 1940s was a) still a good thing. that it happened at all was a good thing. that it is still here is a good thing. and b) the result of feminist thoughts coinciding with economic and political realities. between the frev and the 1940s were three republics and two empires, and it would be reductive to blame what was delayed until the 1940s solely on the frev. feminism, as a group of schools of thoughts, did not doom itself because de gouges died. and c) still not equality yet. voting allows, but only allows, more women to think about the state that exercises disproportionate power over them, and to describe this state, and to study this state. i am reminded of a quote from dear Karl here.

#alsip.txt #frev #french revolution

[vivaesc]

Kreiburg.

#identity v #idv bloody queen #idv mary #mary de capet #mary kreiburg #idv

[sirenjose]

Was Siren Song involved in the tragedy at the Racecourse and why Alice hallucinated Mary?

Just another random thought, but I wonder if whyever the horse, Cyanus, the "White Steed of Death", went crazy could be connected to whatever knocked out Alice?

Or maybe... there's something in the cornflowers? Or in the ground around them?

It was said Mary Kreiburg pinned a cornflower on the rider and horse. Maybe someone sabotaged the cornflowers before Cyanus caused the incident? Maybe with hallucinogenics or something?

I can't remember if it was ever said anywhere why the horse went crazy, but we did see how the rat reacted to the hallucinogenics. And right after Alice sniffed it, she saw both Mary and Nightmare. And the scene where Alice runs from Mary is soon after she digs up the box.

Is it possible Orpheus had himself and Frederick not digging up the box or at all in that area because he knew something was wrong over there? He did say the pH of the ground was affected by bodies getting buried in it. Maybe the ground could also be affected by drugs...?

So maybe Alice started to hallucinate after being affected by the drugs in that area, so later she'd see Frederick as Mary? Like when she sniffed Siren Song?

Is it possible the same could've happened to Cyanus? Affected by Siren Song in the flowers or potentially in its feed?

Considering what we see in Alice's past, the drugs seemed they were already being developed back then. Maybe something like Siren Song could've existed back then?

Again, just random thoughts I couldn't help wondering. No idea what's true. I just come up with random theories.

#idv #identity v #ashes of memory #orpheus #alice deross #mary kreiburg #manus de capet #mary de capet #idv orpheus #idv alice #identity v orpheus #identity v alice #idv novelist #idv journalist #sirenjose analyses and theories

[dohtollen]

im making an idv au where mary and manus are frederick's parents and they're a happy family 💝

#identity v #frederick kreiburg #mary de capet #manus de capet #idv au #au

[t0bey]

sorry!! I meant the new storymode chapter for idv that came out!

ohh i see! ty for clarifying ^^ forgive me bc this is gonna be long and i have MANY thoughts

i actually really loved this episode a lot?? in terms of actual gameplay content i think i even enjoyed this more than TOR, (excluding out of game elements of the event like the animations) and considering my main gripes with episode 1 was how short it was, this ep being 50+ minutes in total definitely solved that problem i had!!

i really enjoy the pacing of everything so far, even if im kind of confused on if our choices actually impact anything? i think part of it is explained by orpheus clearly trying to manipulate what alice does in certain parts of the game like confronting frederick, but others seem like its just the option of choices getting in the way of the game's v obvious linear storytelling lol. i hope that the choices that affect relationships actually serve a purpose long-term

i was wondering how they were going to include mary in the main lore considering for years she's only really been a retelling of marie antoinette's history, but honestly? i love that they fleshed her out into her own character being mary de capet instead of just marie antoinette, and she has her own lore with the racecourse and frederick too. i loved the chase between her and alice sm, and it was interesting how it turned out that in actuality it was *frederick* that alice was hallucinating as mary

anyways mary showing up in HD and having a badass entrace was very cool

also i think everyone knew frederick was going to be taken out somehow and i like that its very open ended what happened to him so far? personally think he might've gotten killed or something after alice fainted at the racecourse, since his stuff was still in his room + Norton is very obviously his replacement at the end (him sitting in fred's chair). plus i think game participants only get replaced if they die, like what happened with servais replacing murro after he got killed by naib

I was REALLY hyped to see the secret medicine lab return from TOR!! and i like that alice used the same rat testing method detective did back then too lol. what really piqued my interest was realizing that when she starts hallucinating and runs away from fool's gold, it wouldn't make sense bc she wouldn't have met him until breakfast the next day. but then when you look at the figure who forced her to drink the drugs to knock her out, if u look close enough it's clearly Norton.

seems like he is working with orpheus at least to the degree that he knows what to do down in the lab by himself, which is interesting and explains why alice would hallucinate FG before actually being introduced to norton the next day.

also considering orpheus chloroformed alice while she was hallucinating before she woke up strapped to the chair and norton made her forget what happened, p much spells theyre working together imo?

overall i really like that this episode leaves you with just as many questions as it did answers (mainly about frederick) and im very curious how they explore melly and orpheus's ACTUAL involvement in the manor games, considering its p obvious theyre both lying to alice in the bedroom scene. have my thoughts on orpheus's actual deal w the forest ranger he mentions but this post is already long enough lol. i hope melly gets more spotlight next episode 🙏

#ask #anon #ashes of memory spoilers #ashes of memory episode 2 spoilers

[nancydrewwouldnever]

Adélaïde Labille-Guiard, Self-Portrait at the Easel with Two Students, Marie Gabrielle Capet and Marie Marguerite Carreaux de Rosemond, 1785, oil/canvas (Metropolitan Museum of Art, NYC)

#adelaide labille guiard #self portrait #portrait #art #painting #rococo #18th century #woman artist