#me sitting through 15 seasons of spn

[belindarimbi13]

Some fans think that people who had negative opinions on TR ending was never a fans to begin with is so funny to me, like I'm not sitting through 277 chapters of TR if I'm not that invested, Margaret.

#this is just like spn all over again for me #I've been sitting through 15 seasons to get that ending??? #i deserved to be fuming #same with tokrev #doramitsu will remain to be my precious just like destiel #bels rants #bels rambles

[hatchet-boy]

Judging SPN Seasons By How Messy It Would Be If Sam And Dean Started Having Sex

Season 1: freshly reunited. no one else in their world but them. they are obsessed with each other. they would fuck like feral dogs and it would make them so much worse. also dad is there. unspeakably messy. 12/10

Season 2: dad just died. the grief sex would be more tears than come and at least one of them is probably saying johns name mid fuck. dean might have to kill baby brother (TM) and so the obvious reaction to this would be extremely possessive sex. sam would not like that attitude (with the one exception of if it happens when hes drunk in playthings). messy in even grosser but marginally less feral ways than szn one. 13/10

Season 3: milder. still obsessed with each other but more settled into it now. deans turn to maybe die and sams turn to be uber-doober possessive about it. unlike sam, dean would be extremely into that. and his deal is comin due so he might as well. sad and tragic,, but not that messy. probably still more tears than come. 6/10

Season 4: dean just came back from hell to find sam fucking his new demon girlfriend. the angels are there. they're still hunting but Stuff Is Going On and god knows they need to be grounded with each other to make it through. sex would probably help. would do the opposite than make things messier. would be vicious. definite chance dean might try to feed sam his blood. 4/10

Season 5: apocalypse fuck. oh fuck. ruby is dead. angels and death and demons and god and destiny. sam and dean are the most experienced and secure theyve ever been and yet. the whole damn world is about to explode. and yet they are still tortured and annoyed by the goofy everday hunting horrors. fucking would be nice for them, would remind them they belong to each other. they think theyre gonna die so the consequences wouldnt matter a whole lot. less insulated and worried about holy judgment so the incest thing may be a bother now. 2/10

Season 6: you fuck your brother but its not your brother he's different in ways you cant explain but you havent seen him in months and you thought you lost him and hes not quite right but fuck he looks like him and talks like him and knows everything about the two of you and he fucks like a greek god and hes mean as a motherfucker in bed but you can take it its fine its worth it its sam godammit-

15/10

Season 7: stranded up the creek without even a twig for a paddle. both brothers are destroyed and traumatised and forcing each other forward by force of necessity and a brotherly hand on the back of the neck. at least its just them alone together (dean please ignore the hallucination of lucifer sitting in the corner and judging our cock size-). sex would go terribly and be the most unsexy sex ever sexed. but they would probably like the closeness if sam could handle it. messy but wouldnt ruin them long term. there would be a terrible Dick joke. 8/10

Season 8: WHOA BOY WHAT A DOOZY. BOTH BROTHERS HAVE PARAMOURS ON THE SIDE WHOM THE OTHER FUCKIN HATES. DEAN IS PURGATORY FERAL AND HAS ONE EYE ON A VAMP. SAM IS SOFT HAS HIS PINKY FINGER TWINED AROUND SOME RANDOM GIRL. WHY DIDNT YOU LOOK FOR ME?? // YOU TOLD ME NOT TO!! // YOU TRUST A DAMN VAMPIRE OVER YOUR OWN BROTHER?? // YOU HIT A DOG... meanwhile sam is doing the trials losing his mind again and dean is losing his mind about that. letting you down was my biggest sin//there is nothing i would ever put in front of you. messy. 10/10.

Season 9: less than ideal with sam possessed by and angel. dean is rocking with the guilt and confliction. the mark of cain is also making him a bit feral again. theyre safe together in the bunker but thats already claustrophobic enough sex might just suffocate them both. pretty messy. 7/10

Season 10: your big brother is an angry angry man but its not his fault right??? its because of the mark right?? he cant control it and you love him and you want to stay in the safe house/bunker/tomb with him you dont want to leave anymore and you need him. youve both been through enough. you deserve this. there would be minimal messiness caused by sex with your brother rn. exception to those few weeks where he was a demon. 2/10

Season 11: gods sister is here and its the apocalypse again. dean hates what he has with Her. at least his sammy is here. at least theyre together. still crazy about each other. gay incest sex is the most reasonable reaction. god might find out- but then again, he and his sister are pretty wacked out together too, and are we not made in gods image?. 1/10

Season 12: Mom is here and so is lucifer and his kid and also the cunt ass brits. not ideal. minimal messiness so long as no one finds out. and fuck all them anyway its pretty clear sam and dean can only ever really trust each other. sex would be affirming and safe here. they are absolutely fucking in the kitchen to the smell of toast and coffee. dean discovers he has an std because no its not normal that your balls have iched like that for the past four years you need to go to a doctor and dean i swear on the impala if you gave it to me- . 3/10

Season 13 to 15: fellas is it gay to have sex with your brother who you've been functionally married to for over a decade? probably not right ha ha. if they havent already fucked by now theyre not going to. theyre just gonna be intensely platonically married until they die. they both have erectile dysfunction by this point . sex would mean everything to them but change nothing they would still be old and married in their bunker with the devils kid tomorrow regardless. they dont care what people think anymore. fuck all messiness. 1/10

Post Season 15 Finale/Heaven: we deserve a soft epilogue my love sammy. mildly concerned about being kicked out of heaven for incest but with everything else theyve done they still made it there. it would be the least of their sins. lovely soft and nothing hurts. can you make a sex tape in heaven? 0/10

#labelling this one under 'things i spent too much time on but love anyway' #constructive criticism is more than welcome here #spn #samdean #wincest #first times #edit to clarify: #this isnt rating how /good/ it would be if they got together in each szn. just how /messy/ it would be

[justjensenanddean]

Jensen Ackles | JIBCon, Solo Panel, (Rome, Italy, August 28 2022)

(x)

Jensen panel. Will he do any more theatre? No, that was a huge mistake. A musical? “A musical??? ” (x)

Would Jensen do more theater work? “Nope, Few Good Men was a mistake, that was 120 pages long and I was on like 100!” And musical? “Um, maybe” You sing so well, and act! “Yeah, I can do both…”  (x)

He likes challenges, so maybe… but he doesn't plan that far in the future  (x)

Jensen recently saw Music Man with Hugh Jackman. Was blown away. It was a lot of fun. Made him think if he wants to do that. Answer? “Nah. I’d have to do jazz hands.” But we’ll see. He doesn’t know what he’ll do in 6 months.  (x)

He loves directing because it makes him think in a different perspective and it’s challenging. So maybe to the musical. The only musical he’s ever done is West Side Story.  (x)

One thing Jensen doesn’t miss is being trapped in the Impala with Jared after Jared had a burrito. Yellow Fever is an ep that comes to mind because it was funny through and through. But funniest scene is “the whole show”. (x)

Jensen panel: Every scene over the past 15 years was the funniest scene #jib12  (x)

(x)

They were able to do risky storylines and go meta thanks to the fans. Because we stuck with them.  (x)

Q about iconic lines. Does he realize they’re iconic when he reads the script or when he films them? Both. Sometimes it will come up filming. SB was more on the page but one day Kripke was in set & he & Kripke brainstormed lines on the spot. #jib12  (x)

There’s a freedom to be creative. Healthy work environment, The Boys is not a toxic set “of which there are a lot of”. Sometimes he doesn’t realize a line will be iconic, other times one will not hit.  (x)

Jensen thinks the writers just wrote SB that way and hoped he can deliver. Doesn’t think Kripke demanded it. Kripke came up with “can’t go in dry” on the spot. Jensen mentions Paul Reiser had a lot of iconic lines too.  (x)

The audition scene for SB was the scene with The Legend, Paul Reiser. So many good lines. (x)

The legend dialogue was the audition scene for Jensen.  (x)

How was it being Dean again? “Like slipping into an old pair of sneakers. Just leaning against that car again…” There will not be a lot of visible Dean in it though. They reshot some of the Pilot. John Schowalter (sp?) stepped in 4 Sigriccia.He’s excited for us to see it.  (x)

Favorite beer in Family Business? He doesn't know, because there's a rotation of beer types and he hasn't been home for 2 months... but he likes Grackle  (x)

Fave beer on tab? Since he hasn’t been home in 2 months, he doesn’t know what’s on tab right now, but the Grackle is always on and it’s his go to. “But don’t drink too much of it, it’ll get ya.”  (x)

(x)

‘Is it time for apple juice? Someone let me know when it’s 12’ (x)

Does he want to be the lead on another long running show? Yes, he has no problem with it. A few projects in early development with him as lead, particularly a movie he’s excited about. But he doesn’t talk about things until they’re a sure thing, so no teasers. (x)  He just likes good stories, to entertain. That’s his thing. (x)

JENSEN TALKED ABOUT THERE BEING PROJECTS. AT LEAST ONE MOVIE. AND THE LEAD ON A TV SHOW. NOTHING FOR SURE YET. BUT THEY'RE SITTING DOWN AT TABLES. HE JUST DROPPED THAT BOMB? (x)

‘I would take a lead again, if the story was right’ (x)

Jensen wants “apple juice” and two of the three bottles are actual apple juice. “You tricked me. What is going on here.”  (x)

‘It’s actually apple juice - you tricked me!’ (x)

At his first con in the UK, a multi fandom con, he thought he was just a face in the crowd and Jensen and Wayne were overwhelmed with the reception. First time Jensen thought “we might get another season”  (x)

How is Jensen practicing his voice drop? He never had any proper training, never did any work, it just naturally went down. It’s JDMs fault. “He’s so cool. I wanna be him when I grow up. I’m still waiting for that.”  (x)

Jensen says that in the first season of SPN admired Jeffrey Dean Morgan so much that he wanted to be like him when he grows up. (x)

He doesn't think his singing voice has changed that much over the years, his speaking voice has changed more. And he never took singing lessons or anything like that!  (x)

#Jensen Ackles #JIB12 #JIBCon2022 #Jensen: Panel Highlights #ah Jensen in a movie... I will enjoy that so much #*

[laikuh]

supernatural and penny dreadful ...

lisaaaaa ty <3 <3 <3

spn:

My rating (1-10): this is impossible because spn is both utterly perfect and dismally horrid. so, 5.

My favourite character: dean. im boring. i love him so much. i also really don't like him at all after a certain point,

My least favourite character: fucking ketch. i mean, i dislike a lot of characters, but ketch can get fucking wrecked. god i hate ketch. i hate ketch. fuck ketch.

The character I think I'd be friends with: i....think all characters in spn should be avoided at all costs, but i guess...i honestly don't know i gotta go look up some characters. okay. i think i could've vibed with pamela and gamble era meg.

The character I think I won't hit off with: lol a lot of them. let's just say john bc he's too much of a man. gross.

My favourite episode/scene: this is impossible. we're just gonna go by what i can think of in this very moment. episode: "a very supernatural christmas" and scene, the dream discussion scene in "baby"

Whose clothing style I like best: i do like dean's lumberjack chic.

Times I watched it (and if I would again): so. hrm. i have seen....s1-12 4 times, and seasons 13-14 3 times and s15 twice. as for if i would watch it again. i would watch s1-7, 11, and parts of 14 again. i don't think i could e v e r watch 8-10, 13, and 15 in their entirety again. i will never not loathe/despise/resent seasons 8-10 and s15, and also i think s13 is boring and stupid. so. i never want to sit through them again lol.

PENNY DREADFUL BABES

My rating (1-10): i haven't see the show in its entirety more than once, but i think i'd say 8.5. s1, of course, is a 10.

My favourite character: vanessa. i love her. i love her so much. i love ethan almost as much, but vanessa edges him out. she's perfect.

My least favourite character: i hate victor. i hate him. i also hate dorian, but mostly because he's boring. victor, however, is pathetic and small, which makes me hate him more.

The character I think I'd be friends with: i mean i wanna believe i could be friends with vanessa, but i'm probably not cool enough

The character I think I won't hit off with: i think dorian would clock me rolling my eyes at every word out of his mouth pretty fast. he's silly.

My favourite episode/scene: there's a good chance the cut wife episode of s2 would be my favorite, but bc i paused my rewatch and haven't gotten there yet, i'll stick with "closer than sisters." favorite scene: the sceane scene. that or when vanessa teaches ethan how to dance.

Whose clothing style I like best: VANESSA. easy. need i say more?

Times I watched it (and if I would again): i've seen the first seasons 3-4 times and the second season twice, third season once.

thank yooouuuuu <3

#i love talking about tv #however i don't want much these days

[shinelikethunder]

You are awakening thoughts and feelings I thought were 5 years dead and buried with your SPN Posting and I just CANNOT with that fact

*pinches bridge of nose and exhales slowly*

I am…going to go read some fanfic, to cope, I think.

(But for real, I’m super fascinated with your posts and am really enjoying them. SPN was my first big tv fandom as a teen and I came in a little late around season 6—so I only flirted with Wincest in favor of Destiel and then, eventually, got disillusioned with and fell away from the show.

In hindsight, you’re reminding me how deliciously fucked up canon was and just how much raw material it gave fandom to work with—and the original reasons I was drawn to it in the first place.

You’re actually actively kind of helping me work through my bitterness of being alienated from my OG fandom and helping me have fun again? In a time where there’s not a lot of fun to be had? So I really, sincerely, appreciate that! Thank you!)

aww, thanks! i think wandering in years after the fact with rock-bottom expectations, and the entire show available for binge-watching, has made this a VERY different experience than it was for anyone who watched in realtime. like yeah in all the usual ways where recurring themes and arc plots hit different when you're shotgunning entire seasons in less than a week... but also, i can only imagine what it's like to watch SPN when you're, like, psychologically capable of experiencing disappointment with it.

i mean, exasperation sure, judginess about wasted potential absolutely, but i went in a hater and emerged with the world's most grudging case of brainrot and had ample forewarning the entire time that It Only Gets Worse From Here. i'm blogging in BLISSFUL ignorance of what it was like for y'all to get strung along. just sitting here on an already-full toxic landfill, merrily picking out the nasty trash (affectionate, horny) from the nasty trash (derogatory) and tossing it in a bag to take home with me. if witnessing that provides anything of value to the people who took actual non-hyperbolic psychic damage from this 15-year hate crime and all the wank it generated, then i am ALL TOO HAPPY to share, lol. because yeah, there is indeed a whole lotta deliciously fucked-up shit in there, and i feel like i get to dig around in it without paying NEARLY the same mental price as the people who were following it as it aired.

#supernatural #king0fcrows #shine watches spn

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Yellow Fever

 Welcome to “Big Hearts, Cat Screams, Bobby Speaks Japanese: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

  Up today, s4e6: Yellow Fever.

 The cold open begins with Dean running for his life… from a yorkie? Okay, back up. The boys are investigating the strange death of a man who died of a heart attack with no discernable cause. Eventually they realize the culprit is ghost sickness, which is contagious and causes victims to get increasingly terrified until the are literally scared to death. And Dean’s caught it. He does his best to help Sam continue the case while he becomes frightened of… everything. Eventually he begins to see hallucinations, including one of Lilith, who suggests that he may remember quite a bit about his time in hell after all. With Dean holed up in a motel room trying to stay calm, Bobby eventually joins Sam and they figure out that scaring the original ghost to “death” should cure Dean. So they do, in a scene that is heartbreaking and kind of hard to watch. But meanwhile the whole episode is a delight of Dean moments coupled with Sam doing his best to support him and not laugh. Always stay tuned for at the end for Jensen’s hilarious lip-sync of “Eye of the Tiger.”

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Lor:

 oh hey, you remember there’s

a scene with snakes in this one?

 Mace:

 omG ITS THE CAT SCREAM ONE

  Lor:

 it IS

Mace:

 oh no i didn’t remember

I’ll try to power through but we’ll see

  Lor:

 you want me to try to warn you? if I remember it's a little bit of a surprise (but not a jump scare or anything)

 Mace:

 okay yes pls

  Lor:

 okay will try

 Mace:

 thanks, friend

 omg DEAN

  Lor:

 omg Dean, honey

    Lor:

 of course. I got you hopes really hard will remember when the scene is coming

 Mace:

 SNORK

  Lor:

 "the one you're gonna do"

 Mace:

 HA

okay I didn’t need to see the cutting

  Lor:

 yeeeeah

 Mace:

 Dean’s face

  Lor:

 oh Dean

 Mace:

 OMG DEAN

  Lor:

 that's what you get for laughing SAM

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

and Dean’s smirk!!

  Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 that dude has a thing for Dean fight me

  Lor:

 HE DOES

and Dean is not uninterested

 this hand sanitizing thing hits so different now

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA IT SURE DOES

  Lor:

 Dean's face when he has to stop laughing

 Mace:

 omg DEAN LAUGHING

  Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 YES

 “they’re majestic animals"

  Lor:

 "big heart" OMG

 Mace:

  “big heart” DEAN WINCHESTER I CANNOT

  Lor:

 I. LOVE. HIM.

 Mace:

 ME TOO

  Lor:

 "what can't?"

 this is it I think

the neighbors

maybe?

 Mace:

 okay I’m steeling myself

  Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 oh RIGHT THE BIG PYTHON

  Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 okay I’m looking away for a bit

  Lor:

 okay

I'll just be half wigging out/half laughing at Dean

 "those pez dispensers with their dead little eyes"

 Mace:

 RRREEEEFFFFFEEEERRREENNNNCEEE

  Lor:

 LOLOLOLOL

 how... do you tape someone's butt cheeks together?

wouldn't they have to... sit still for that?

 Mace:

 I don’t know. I’ve been wondering that since Breakfast Club, to be honest

  Lor:

 HA

 Mace:

 well, you have someone hold them down, obvs

and maybe use double sided tape?

  Lor:

 oh right. I just wasn't thinking with enough violence

but. they'd have to be naked?

is this some kind of boys locker room nonsense that just never occurs to me?

 "oh what? safety's a crime now?"

 Mace:

 I think it is locker room crap

 omg I so love this Dean

  Lor:

 "i'm not suicidal. did I just say that? that's kind of weird"

 Mace:

 SNORK!!

  Lor:

 I assume he meant the bit about the turning into traffic was what he meant was weird, but DAMN does that hit hard in a fuck 327 kind of way

 Mace:

 IT SURE DOES

 “AM I HAUNTED?!?!”

  Lor:

 "AM I HAUNTED?"

 hahahahaha YES

 Mace:

 Jensen plays this SO FUCKING WELL

  Lor:

 omg tiny hiding in the car with his music I LOVE HIM

 he DOES

 Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 "god no. I don't even know what that is"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 cornjerkers

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 "you got hit with the spleen juice"

 I don't buy this. Dean is not a dick IN COMPARISON to Sam

 Mace:

 OMG DEAN IS NOT A DICK, SAMMY

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

stupid handwaving

 Mace:

 And I love Sam, but he can be a jerk sometimes, too

  Lor:

 YEP

and they both use fear as a weapon and they are BOTH just sweet in other ways

 Mace:

 yeah, they needed to explain it somehow I guess, but surely they could have come up with something else better

  Lor:

 yeah

like, scared but pretending they aren't?

or hiding a secret

 Mace:

 or forced to grow up too soon

  Lor:

 bc those are both true of Dean and are relevant to what they are trying to get at

 Mace:

 well, it’s not like Sammy doesn’t have secrets from Dean

  Lor:

 ...though Sam is hiding something too

 oh YEAH that's a good one

 "hey, quit picking at that"

  Lor:

 "I don't wanna be a clue"

 Mace:

 SNORK!!

  Lor:

 not that this isn't always true, but I just want to hold him

 Mace:

 YAS 

 omg Sam is OVER IT

 Lor:

 he IS

 look, Dean can man my flashlight anytime he likes

 Mace:

 HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

Cas says, Hey, that’s MINE LINE

  Lor:

 LOL!

 Mace:

 HERE IT COMES

  Lor:

 HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

omg and the way Jensen's voice goes back up into like a human range

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHAOMG that NEVER gets old

  Lor:

 NOPE

 Mace:

 SNORK

  Lor:

 hahahahaha Sam looks over his shoulder and Dean is just gone

the RUN

 Mace:

 HAAAAAAHAHA

 Dean is acting like a normal person would in this situation

  Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 Deputy is worried about his fantasy boyfriend

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 the way Sam hauls him away by the back of his neck

 Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 oh Dean he's worried about the badges

his little shake no when Sam asks if he feels better

 Mace:

 YES

 SO ADORABLE

  Lor:

 "those are real. ...obviously"

 Mace:

 Dean’s worried look!

  Lor:

 "that's just nutty"

I CANNOT

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 HOW are his eyes so BIG

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 this is funny cause I think Luther looks like a sweet bean

 Mace:

 he sure does

 aw KITTEN

  Lor:

 oooof

 Mace:

 yeeeeeah

  Lor:

 "no no it'll be that easy. why won't it be that easy?"

 sounds like it's time to light a road on fire then Sammy

 Mace:

 aw, honey

 YES

 CRAZY PEOPLE

  Lor:

 oh Dean. maybe you should move into a nice little house with an angel and stop hunting scary things

 "and you! you're GASSY!"

 Mace:

 make it a B&B

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 oh Tiger, don’t quit

  Lor:

 LOL

 "Ran?"

 god he looks so SCARED

 Mace:

 he really DOES

 poor Sammy’s worried. and annoyed. and worried.

  Lor:

 oooof the hallucinations

 Mace:

 OOOOOF

 omg evil Sammy AM DED

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 "home sick"

 Mace:

 hooo boy

  Lor:

 BOBBY SPEAKS JAPANESE

 Mace:

 YES HE DOES

  BOBBY SAID LORE EVERYBODY DRINK 

  Lor:

 LOL

 "just ride out the trip" ooooof

 "this is a TERRIBLE plan"

 Mace:

 SNORK!!

Bobby complains but he’s right there backing his boy up

  Lor:

 oh no he's hallucinating hell hounds, poor thing

 YES

 Mace:

 poor baby

  Lor:

 WHY THE BIBLE

 ooooof Lilith

 Mace:

 OOOOF

 and why doesn’t Cas show up to help?!

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 oooo I wonder if he was praying to Cas

 this little kid is SO GOOD

 Mace:

 I kind of doubt it at this point, but I bet Cas would have heard

 she really really is

  Lor:

 yeah. I just can never make the bible make sense. he doesn't believe in that stuff. he can barely accept that angels exist

 Mace:

 well, he’s not himself at all at this point and maybe he’s giving in to superstition

  Lor:

 ooo yeah I'd buy that

and the visual is good

 Mace:

 yep

  Lor:

 oooof. he deserves a nice burger and a very long nap

 Mace:

 yes he does

  Lor:

 MRF THE HENLEY

 Mace:

 YAAASSS

  Lor:

 "I'll hunt. I'll kill anything"

 omg guys don't pick on him

poor little muffin

 Mace:

 “he’s adorable” HAHAHAHAHA YES HE IS

  Lor:

 sam's dark denim shirt is NOT BAD either

 YAAAAS

 Mace:

 “you boys drive safe” is midwestern love language

  Lor:

 "howler monkeys"

 Mace:

 It really really isn’t

  Lor:

 ooooYES

 he is NOT FINE

 Mace:

 NOPE

  Lor:

 JENSEEEEEEEN

 Mace:

 “the usual stuff, Sammy”

OOOOOF

  Lor:

 yep

 Mace:

 SUCH a ham

  Lor:

 YES

THEATER KID

 Mace:

 SNORK!

and that smile of pure glee at the end

  Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 I love it when the boys are happy

  Lor:

 YES

it just exudes young dude having a great time

and I love it

 Mace:

 YES

#watchingspnagain #watchingspnagain 4x06 #spn #supernatural #spn meta #spn spoilers #spn 4x06 #watchingspnagain acting #watchingspnagain bi dean #watchingspnagain cold open #watchingspnagain comedy #watchingspnagain handwaving #watchingspnagain hell

[incarnateirony]

Fandom leak history lesson for the uninitiated

Made a longass answer to an ask over here (x) but just in case patrick’s followers have too short an attention span, let’s really lay out the true course of history. Per the post:

mfers know for a god given fact I work with people who get onto CW shows and even have some damn good friend actors that started periscope streaming supernatural and yelling at me live for getting them into this hellhole, but he can’t wrap his fucking brain around the fact that maybe someone moved the bar on him while he wasn’t looking. Or his folks yelling U DONT KNOW BOBO BOBO DOESNT KNOW U AND WILL NEVER KNOW YOUR NAME and then shutting the fuck up when I drop them a video voicemail, “HIIIII MINNNNNN ITS BOBO~~~~ AT COMICON~~~~ WHY AREN’T YOU HERE?~~~~ HUH??~~~~” Fucking shit.

figure it out, douchebags.

same dumb motherfucker that’s spent years arguing with me that Corporate Things Aren’t Real Corporate Things Don’t Exist And Can’t Hurt him, constantly smashed in the face. Or arguing that Berens had no Destiel intent and actually shipped Wincest--he banged on that for YEARS not even knowing about what Bobo’s desk looked like or the entire motion of overwriting Bucklemming going on in the room with Dabb’s aid. Arguing certain shit doesn’t happen because he’s nobody while I’m like, sitting on an under the table recording of execs in burbank about another CW show but SURE FUCKING POP OFF DUDE.

You were wrong about the original ending, and paid 5K to be wrong about the omissions, and you were wrong about the pilot, but I’m very sure your magical anon that wasn’t there to save you from looking like an embarrassment then definitely has deep insights to production futures. You were wrong about Berens. Wrong about corporate. Wrong about who cut what lines to the point you were bitchslapped by actual direct sources in half a day. I have never seen a piece of shit be more consistently wrong and pretend he’s right. This is the biggest tryhard piece of shit I have EVER encountered. Holy. Fucking. Shit.

and damn I mean, I know people in this fandom overbloat their importance, or even low key media workers do. Mary Manchin argued about the goddamn market testing and said they don’t even do general SPN market testing when I had the goddamn receipts in my phone for years before we safely pushed it through debunker. Natalie Fisher took great confidence in her RL friendship with meredith to the point she argued with me in season 15 there was no confession scene. Jess from the Mary Sue during S14 about Berens’ intent, too. Like you people do not fucking understand how stupid this all looks. And patrick generally can’t even get at THAT level of fucking sources.

Genuinely funny they can’t figure out why I’ve been comfortable owning association with that market testing without fear WB will come after me to shake me down for whoever gave it to me. You haven’t thought that far yet, I guess. Probably because you never even comprehend this world turning around you, to think of that as a flag you should probably be pissing yourself about right now.

Dumb mfer is gonna hold onto life my cardinal sin of actually knowing the original fucking ending he denied and searching for where the fuck half the script was even during filming on a production that was in fact locked down from corporate fuckery he denied until slapped on that again. Jesus christ.

[castielmacleod]

Question: are you going to be pirating the new winchester series just to see how bad it is? Because I’m tempted

Aye that’s fair tbh! I’m really not interested myself—there’s a lot already that rubs me too much the wrong way, so this place will very much remain a Supernatural (2005-2020) blog specifically—but for people who ARE tempted to hate-watch spnwin then definitely do NOT let them make money off of you lol. Heaven forfend the CW become profitable again especially due to this show like… we can all do our part to prevent that 💞

The only prequel thing I unfortunately do have a genuine eye out for is if any of my personal spn faves are brought back.. still wouldn’t be enough to make me actually watch it (since I REALLY don’t trust any spn anything to not ruin them more than they already have or not write them stupidly in general, like my heart can’t take any more of that) but if we get flower power Rowena or a new 70s-era Crowley vessel or Cas or Billie or Ruby or Anna or Uriel or Missouri etc etc in any capacity then VISUALLY at least I’d want to see how they look. Especially in the case of any new vessels/meatsuits so that I can decide whether or not to incorporate them into My personal canon or not. That’s kind of it though!

Oh I might adopt/steal the desi main character though. I know nothing about her but I didn’t sit through 15 seasons of spn with ONLY poor Kali for desi rep just to stare longingly at Latika Thewinchesters from behind the proverbial fence here…... she could easily still be alive in the spn timeline so idk if I can resist incorporating her into my mental rewrite. I’ll be rotating that in my brain at least

Anyway if you do decide to hate-watch it anon, then I wish you smooth sailing 🏴‍☠️

#Ask #I need to rescue Latika from that man (<—Jason Ankles) #Prequel momence

[mishasminions]

The Last Time I’ll Write a Long Post About Supernatural (15x18-15x20)

15 YEARS OF WATCHING THIS SHOW. 11 YEARS OF RUNNING A BLOG ABOUT IT. IT’S BEEN QUITE A RIDE.

[15x20 Speculation + evidence at the bottom]

First off, I just wanna come clean and say, after all these years, I still think they should’ve ended at Season 5.

If you’re going to come at me with “Then why’d you stick around to watch it if you didn’t like it?”, your question is immature, and the answer is simple: I just want to know what happens next (I also love the main characters and their actors too). You can watch a show and still think it’s shit.

Call me a clown, but despite all the disappointment and trust issues that this show has given me, I would still look forward to the day where it might just turn itself around and bring back the quality it once had, or realize the potential of each story it was trying to tell, or at the very least, do justice by my favorite ship.

Never happened.

They’ve had a few good episodes here and there. I can’t imagine the SPN Universe without The Man Who Would Be King, The French Mistake, and Scoobynatural. Seasons 6-10 were enjoyable at times. I blocked out most of 7 & 11-15. 

If you’ve been following this blog since its heydays in 2010-2014, you’d know I’d try my best to defend Destiel and this show’s decisions regarding it no matter what.

Because you know what, as a CONCEPT, this show is good. If you take a look at all the worlds its storylines have birthed in fanfiction/fanworks, you’d see how much Supernatural has wasted its own story arcs. The writing got shittier as each season progressed, and they’ve obviously given up in production as well because the quality in the execution has noticeably gone down too, but if you take a step back and take a look at the bigger picture, you’ll see that this show still tries to make sense of itself.

[If you’re still following this post, please bear with me, I know this is long, but I just want you to understand how jaded and pessimistic I am with regards to this show, so maybe you can buy into whatever hopeful thing I’m about to say later on.]

SO LET’S TALK ABOUT DESTIEL

Never in my wildest dreams did I think that they would give us Castiel’s “I love you” speech. To the point where, if I weren’t so desperate for it, I would argue that it was completely out of character for him to word vomit the way he did (but I’m not gonna diss on that right now because I’ll take what I can get).

I’ve valued every meaningful and obscure exchange that Dean and Cas have had in the earlier seasons, and I was willing to accept their relationship as just that--undefined, without any clear boundaries as to what they really are. And I think that was beautiful on its own.

But now, they’ve chosen to define it.

After they’ve driven every possible wedge between Dean and Castiel in seasons 11-15, to try to explain away their feelings as something they offer to a collective.

Dean can’t mourn and pray for JUST Cas, he has to mourn and pray for EVERYBODY--even Crowley, even some chick he just met, because god forbid he cries about just the guy who has given up everything for him--that would be “too homo”.

They’ve even set Cas on a path to abrupt fatherhood just so he can care about something other than Dean. Make it seem as if Dean wasn’t his purpose through and through.

And after all these years of this stupid show trying to deny it, they choose to acknowledge it at the worst possible circumstance, at a time where they’ve been so far apart, that it seems so foreign for them to suddenly come together.

But here we are. And they’ve chosen to tell us.

Chosen to tell us that everything that Castiel has done leading up to his death, he has done it because he was IN LOVE WITH DEAN WINCHESTER.

Chosen to tell us that the ONE THING THAT WOULD MAKE CAS HAPPY IS DEAN WINCHESTER.

Chosen to tell us that BEING WITH DEAN WINCHESTER is something that CAS WANTS BUT KNOWS HE CAN’T HAVE.

And they’ve also chosen to tell us nothing about how Dean feels.

Sure, finding out your angel made a deal, the stipulations of said deal, his newfound happiness philosophy, his long-winded monologue of why he loves you and why you’re worthy of his love, and to top it all off he tells you that being in love with you is enough to make him happy while he subtly hints that he’s always wanted to be WITH you romantically, was a lot to process in the 5 minutes after you’ve just had an existential crisis.

It’s whatever, right? Let’s culminate 11 years worth of tension and feelings in 5 minutes. Let’s waste the entire episode with cringey expository dialogue, and irrelevant sequences. The whole season was a waste anyway.

You know what Supernatural? FUCK YOU FOR THAT. They deserved better. WE deserve better.

And I would love nothing more than to hurl every possible insult your way,

But for the last time, I’m going to HOPE that you’re finally going to try to make it better for the fans that stuck by you all these years.

No more baiting new viewers, no more placating casual viewers, no more excuses. 15 years. Bring it home for the people who have actually been around.

SO HERE’S HOW I THINK 15x20 IS GONNA GO

There’s two ways this series is gonna end. Horribly or Spectacularly.

First let’s all take into consideration what Andrew Dabb says about it:

So, let’s start with

ENDING HORRIBLY

In this scenario, Misha is telling the truth about his last day of filming being 15x18. His “camping trip” during the last few days of filming 15x20, was actually a camping trip. He doesn’t go to Vancouver to shoot.

Jensen wasn’t “being careful” during the zoom interviews that it was just him and Jared quarantining for the shoot, it really was just him and Jared (althought most of these were done pre 15x19) Supernatural isn’t smart enough to do misleading PR, and they’re once again oblivious to the potential of their own story.

Misha hasn’t posted a “Goodbye Castiel” tweet because he’s probably saving it for last episode or he forgot because it was overshadowed by the Destiel trend that night.

So what we get is:

Sam and Dean are on the road again, up against the monster of the week. Only their world no longer has actual Supernatural beings anymore, so the monsters they’re fighting are humans.

Humans end up killing the Winchesters (despite having gone up against literally every powerful being imaginable INCLUDING God himself). Dean and Sam end up in heaven and relive their greatest hits.

Meanwhile, Castiel rots in The Empty because he died after realizing that he was happy and gay. Jack doesn’t bother rescuing him—his surrogate dad, the guy who made this specific deal to spare him—even though it was so easy for him get Cas in and out of The Empty when he had a fraction of the power that he has now.

Dean never speaks of Castiel’s confession because despite all the hints of a profound bond in the earlier seasons, and the fact that Dean has never cared for anyone (who isn’t his actual brother) as immensely as he does Cas, Supernatural just can’t have its main macho character be “suddenly bisexual” because that would hurt the male ego or some shit.

His heaven would probably be living happily ever after with his family. “Family” meaning Mary and John Winchester--two of the shittiest parents ever (but they’re not going to include them in this episode like they were supposed to because of Covid) and Sam.

Sam also gets a dog. As usual.

I wouldn’t put it past Supernatural to do this. After everything they’ve pulled, this would be right up their alley. I actually expect this ending.

Anyway, onto the next possible ending

ENDING SPECTACULARLY

In this scenario, Supernatural tries to stick the landing, and Jensen’s whole “It didn’t sit well with me at first, but then I took a step back after talking to Kripke, and realized that I had to view it from an audience perspective, I am now really excited about it” (DC Con 2019) anecdote about his thoughts on the final episodes, were actually about Dean potentially ending up with Cas. (Which would totally make sense because Jensen at first didn’t see Dean as anything but hetero, but as of late, he has been throwing in Destiel jokes of his own, so he seems to have warmed up to the idea)

Backed with Misha’s tidbit (DLConline 2020) that he and Jensen had conversations about Destiel, and that they wouldn’t have gone through with it if Jensen wasn’t onboard with it, but Jensen didn’t push back at all. (Why would they need to check with Jensen if it was just Cas going all in?)

Robert Berens (writer of 15x18) also wrote the script at the beginning of Season 15, but made Misha privy to the concept a year prior (Season 14), so they went into this season knowing about Destiel going canon.

This one’s a reach, but this scenario also supposes that Misha was lying about his whereabouts during the filming of the final episode, and him saying that 15x18 was his last episode is part of the diversion to avoid taking away from the weight of Castiel’s death.

And that Supernatural is actually self-aware of its own material (similar to how they have wrapped things up in the past—lots of expository dialogue, poor execution, but fulfills the story arc)

Since Season 15 is basically a Meta Season (Chuck/God as a writer, pretentiously calling out how he created the worlds, its characters, and basically invalidating the past 14 seasons), and 15x19 is supposedly the finale for Season 15, written by two of the worst Supernatural writers, Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming (Bob Singer’s wife), then we can assume that 15x19 is where the shitty writers kill themselves--as Chuck, of course.

So we get a badly written episode that produces a bad ending, or as Becky put it, “All action, and no Cas”

So we get the bad writers season ending at 15x19.

And 15x20 is where Sam and Dean write their own stories, and where the cast had a hand in pitching ideas for it.

Dabb has mentioned that 15x20 (Act Two) is a SERIES finale, where they try to resolve the characters’ journeys.

Because as everyone has acknowledged, Supernatural isn’t about the story, it’s about the characters.

So here’s what we can get out of it:

With no more Supernatural beings left to fight, Sam and Dean are in a stalemate. They’ve resigned themselves to fighting to the bitter end, but the “end” has passed, and they’re still standing.

So they try to figure out who they are now, and what they want out of the life they still have.

Sam still wants a normal apple pie life. Before Dean dragged him out of college to go hunting with him, he had a whole life planned out for him. Become a lawyer, settle down with a nice girl, and get a dog. He gave all that up because they had work to do, but now the work is finished, he can finally go back to wanting that for himself again.

Dean finally realizes his self-worth after Cas saves him again. His prayer to Cas in purgatory may have helped him come to terms with his anger, but the whole “you’ve done everything you did for love” speech finally put him in his place, and he learns not to hate himself anymore.

But of course, he cannot fully reconcile with himself if he doesn’t get Cas back, and tell him how he feels.

Because Dean actually wants something for himself this time. Something he knows he can finally have if he can just salvage it.

So maybe this time around, with the help of Jack (off-screen), Dean saves Cas. Grips him tight and raises him from perdition.

They bypass The Empty deal by turning Cas human, and he lives the rest of his days with Dean.

Dean and Cas know they deserve to be saved, and they know that they deserve to be happy.

(Wishful thinking, maybe they kiss a little)

Anyway...

I’m just saying, there’s NO WAY that they’d have Cas go through that whole rushed speech, if they weren’t going to do anything about it later on.

But again, after 10 years of disappointment, I wouldn’t put it past Supernatural to pat themselves on the back and say, “Okay, we sort of gave them what they wanted. We’re good now”

If that’s the case, Supernatural, I’m sorry I wasted my time on you.

Here’s to hoping 🤡

#THE LAST TIME I'LL CLOWN FOR THIS SHOW #SUPERNATURAL #DESTIEL #15x20 #15x19 #15x18 #UNTAGGED #INSIGHTFUL INSIGHTS

[luci-in-trenchcoats]

Season 16 (Part 1)

Summary: After being captured by Michael while Dean was under his control, the reader has spent a very long time locked away waiting for someone to come and find her. When the day finally comes that the door opens, it’s not a familiar face she’s greeted with. Somehow the impossible is standing right in front of her but there’s no time to think about that. Something is terribly wrong and the reader needs the help of this strange young man if she wants to stop what Michael’s put in motion and have a chance at seeing Dean alive again...

Masterlist

Pairing: Dean x reader

Square: Free Space

Word Count: 3,600ish

Warnings: language, SPN season 15 and series spoilers, injury, mention of main character deaths, mention of torture, angst, fluff

A/N: This series takes place post season 15 and follows canon (i.e. if it happened in the show, it happened in this story’s universe). This series is told between the reader and Dean’s POV. This was also written for @supernatural-jackles​ Tell Me A Story bingo!

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Reader’s POV

You just about had a heart attack when the door opened. It’d been such a long time since it’d been opened. Years and years and years. You’d lost track of the days quickly but it was long enough for you to accept that it’d been a very long time. Long enough to accept that when Michael took over Dean and threw you down in the windowless little room, Dean didn’t win that fight.

The only thing keeping you going aside from the spell Michael had put up to keep you permanently trapped, body stuck in time, was the desire to save Dean. Or what was left of him. You’d been alone for years, body having taken a beating by Michael when he first captured you. You were still covered in bruises, broken ribs that wouldn’t heal, pain in every breath. You didn’t sleep, didn’t eat. Solitude, cut off from the world, that was your main form of torture. Dean though...who knew what hell he was going through trapped with a psychopath like that for all these years.

You readied yourself, a dark figure walking inside the room. The room was pitch black to a certain point before you were trapped under a bright light you’d yet to figure out how to turn off. The figure stopped as their feet hit the brightness, a pair of brown boots and slim dark jeans all you could make out. They mumbled something and you felt the air shift slightly. You dared to reach at hand out to where the invisible wall keeping you trapped had been.

Your hand waved right on through it and you suddenly felt cool, clean air hit you. The person jolted when you sprang up, running away as you bolted for the door. You followed them up a flight of stairs and straight out into the foyer of a very nice house. You could see it was a man now and tackled him, straddling his hips and grabbing your knife from your waistband of your loose shorts, holding it to his throat. He breathed hard as you stared at him, cocking your head.

He was the spitting image of Dean. Mostly. His eyes weren’t green and there was something about his nose that reminded you of your own. The biggest tell of all though was the genuine fear in his face, the confusion. 

“What’s your name,” you said. You held up the knife for a moment and tucked it away when you saw he was only focused on it. The young man, no more than twenty years old, took a deep breath. You yelped when he threw his legs up and wrapped them around your waist, yanking you off of him. He scrambled to his feet but you were on his tail, grabbing at his jacket. He spun around and popped you in the face, sending you to the floor.

You whined and cupped your cheek, the young man frozen in the doorway with a horrified look on his face.

“Who punches their own mom!” you shouted. He ran out the door and you went after, growling at your bare feet as he took off down the gravel driveway. “I’m gonna find you!”

You stomped your foot on the cool concrete front path, glancing to your right and spotting a sports car. You jogged back inside and found a pair of women’s sneakers, a little too big but you tied them tight and found some keys on a front table. 

About two minutes later you were pulling up beside the guy on the road and hopped out of the car, the man running into the nearby treeline. You pulled out your knife and threw it, catching his jacket and pinning the sleeve to the tree trunk. He stumbled and fell down as you walked over, staring up with wide eyes. You sighed and ran a hand over your face. 

“Can you at least tell me your first name?” you asked. He shook his head and you crossed your arms. “I bet your name is Lyle, isn’t it.”

“How’d you know that?” he asked, voice a bit higher than Dean’s but it made you smile, something warm and familiar to it.

“I’ve had a lot of time to think recently. Lyle is my top name for a boy if I ever had one,” you said. “So. Lyle Winchester.”

“That’s not my name,” he said. He stood up and pulled out the knife, carefully holding it out to you.

“You look just like Dean and me. You’re my son...somehow,” you said.

“Fine. My name is Lyle and that’s all I can say about myself,” he said. “I’m serious.”

You recognized the tone, that edge to it, the roughness but laced with an undercurrent of worry. Part of you wanted him to tell you everything about him but you knew he couldn’t, instead letting yourself give him a simple nod.

“I’ll make you a deal Lyle. I won’t ask questions about you that you can’t answer if you tell me how and why you got me out of there and answer anything else I want to know about this little situation.”

“Or else what?” he scoffed.

“Or else someday when you’re a teenager I won’t let you do anything. Lyle.” You took the knife from him and put it away, taking a deep breath. You stepped back out to the road, leaning against the car. You shut your eyes, something heavy draped over you. You peeled one eye open, Lyle leaning back against the car next to you in a blue flannel and dark gray t-shirt. His black hooded jacket was over your shoulders and you slipped your arms through the sleeves, wrapping them around yourself. You squeezed your eyes tight, shuddering before warm arms embraced you, Lyle almost as tall as Dean holding you close to him. “How did you know I was down there?”

“I can’t answer that,” he said.

“What year is it?” you asked.

“2089.” You froze, staring up at him. “Well, 2089 where we are right now is.”

“Lyle. It was 2018 when Michael took me. That’s not possible.”

“I can’t answer that either.” Tears welled up in your eyes and he hugged you again. “Sorry.”

“Dean was thirty nine the last time I saw him and it’s seventy one years later? He is dead. Sam is dead. They’re all dead so explain to me how the fucking hell I have a son with Dean!” you shouted. You pushed him away and ran your hands over your face. “Years. Fucking years I’ve sat down there waiting for him to come and get me. Him or Sam or someone. Fucking seventy one years!”

“Y/N,” he said, sounding a bit awkward but he cleared his throat. “I can’t answer everything because I don’t know everything. But I exist and that should tell you something.”

You wiped off your face with his sleeve and looked around, turning back and staring at him.

“I’m at the start of whatever this is and you’re way down the line,” you said. He nodded with a slight smile.

“I don’t understand it but this, where I’m from, this has already happened to you.”

“You’re from the future then,” you said.

“Not exactly,” he said. 

“A different universe?” He looked at you like you were nuts and the air shifted, Lyle freezing. You turned and saw Jack, a smile on his face. “Jack?”

“Hi Y/N,” he said. He stepped over and gave you a big hug, a little bit of ache inside you easing finally. “Don’t worry about him. He’s just on pause.”

“Jack I don’t understand fucking anything. What’s going on?” you asked. He pursed his lips and sighed.

“Well you already figured out Lyle is your and Dean’s son. I didn’t think I could slip that one past you. But it had to be him that came and saved you.”

“Why?”

“Dean’s in heaven. Has been for 69 years.” You broke away from him feeling like you’d had a punch to gut and making you breathless. “I probably shouldn’t have told you that with the whole decades worth of trauma thing happening right now.”

“Did Michael…” you trailed off.

“No. A piece of rebar on a vamp hunt,” he said.

“He what?” you said.

“Yeah got pushed back on it. Sam was okay though. Oh and Dean had a dog for a few months.”

“Dean fucking died from that? That’s what kept him down?” you said. Jack nodded and you looked down, blinking your eyes. “Disregarding what is going on in my head right now about that, why didn’t you heal him? Or Castiel?”

“Well Cas was in heaven helping me rebuild after he sort of died and I brought him back. I kinda am the new God,” he said with a smile.

“I’m proud of that but again, why didn’t you come down here and heal Dean?”

“I’m sort of hands off in that regard,” he said. You were about to go off on him for that when it hit you.

“Jack how long have you known I was alive,” you said. 

“2020 when I took over, I got these extra-”

“You knew I was alive and  left me in a hole in the ground for over seventy years?” you said. 

“Like I said, I’m hands off,” he said. 

“I was your fucking mom! I took care of you! I protected you! I almost died for you more than once and when you find out I’m still alive you say fuck that bitch, she can deal with it on her own? What the fuck is wrong with you!” you shouted. You slapped him in the face, Jack pouting as you sank down to your knees. “I want Dean.”

“Y/N.”

“I want Dean and Sam.”

“Y/N-”

“I want Dean!”

“I can’t-”

“Fuck you! You’re as every bit as evil as that devil father of yours after all,” you said. You forced yourself to your feet, tears prickling in his eyes. “Oh did I hurt your feelings? Tough fucking shit! Do you realize that I have not only been stuck waiting for years but my body got stuck too. I’ve been sitting with broken ribs for seventy years. Every single breath excruciating.”

You yanked up your shirt, deep purple and black skin radiating across most of your abdomen. Jack reached out a hand and you moved back, dropping your shirt.

“I thought you were hands off. I don’t want your-” you said before warmth trickled through you, the pain gone, body feeling so strange at being without it. 

“I don’t have to touch to heal you,” he said quietly. He swallowed and bowed his head. “I tried to let people live their lives without my interference and sometimes they’re messy but I’ve come to realize recently that’s wrong. A bit of help here and there is good. It gives people hope and maybe I should have done things different.”

“My family’s dead and I don’t want to wait around decades more to see them again in heaven. You’re going to-”

“No I won’t. Lyle’s life counts on you doing exactly what you’re supposed to as do your two other children’s. I can’t just put you in heaven. You can’t die right and you have to wait to see Dean until things work themselves out. Lyle’s going to be with you for a while and help get some things settled. It’s already set in motion so go with it,” he said.

“Jack I want Dean. Please,” you said. “Please Jack. Just five minutes.”

“Would you rather have your family back in the near future, alive, or would you rather have your and Dean’s souls torn apart and you never see him again, dead or alive? Rather he over there doesn’t exist? Rather no one exists?”

“I didn’t say that. Of course I would rather have them back alive-“

“Then be patient.”

“Jack. You gotta give me something. Something please.”

“I’ll talk to Lyle, tell him he can loosen up some. But I can’t tell you what to do. You have to follow your gut. Listen to Lyle and it’ll work out,” said Jack. You squeezed your eyes shut, Jack carefully resting a hand on your shoulder. “Do you hate me?”

“I hate that our family was ripped apart. I hate that you didn’t tell the boys I was alive once you knew. I hate that the last time I saw Dean alive we argued. I think what I hate most of all is that you treated us like everyone else. We’re not, Jack. We’re your family. All of us deserved a chance at normal and we didn’t get it.”

“Sam did.”

“How many years did Sam live without us? Without his brother?” you asked. Jack glanced down and you nodded. “You said you became God? Why didn’t you get rid of the monsters altogether Jack. Don’t tell me you don’t have that power.”

“I thought...I thought it was the natural order.”

“Yet you know there are other universes with no monsters at all. You could have taken the monsters away. Shit turn them human for all I care. The boys didn’t have to keep hunting after you took over. You could have been hands off and changed that one fact and saved so many lives, improved so many lives.”

“No. I couldn’t have changed it. Not back then.”

“Why the hell not?” you asked. He pulled his hand away and you found yourself in some clean clothes, Lyle’s jacket folded on top of the car.

“Because when I became God, I learned a lot. It sucks knowing that certain things have to happen and that I had to ignore when Sam prayed to me in that barn because things had to happen this way.”

“But why?”

“Because if I didn’t, if I’d intervened then and there, this universe, all of the ones I’ve been busy rebuilding, the way I’ve been rebuilding heaven...it’d be gone. Destroyed and I wouldn’t be able to put it back. It’s a temporary pain even if it doesn’t seem like it. So please, Y/N, please, listen to Lyle. Work with him. It’ll work out and things can be okay. You can have everything you ever wanted and more. You can have the freaking apple pie life and the no monsters and all of it but please understand you have more shit to go through first and whatever happens, do not let Lyle die.”

“He’s my son. I wouldn’t let that happen to him,” you said. Jack nodded and you grabbed his arm when he turned to leave. “You’ve grown up Jackie.”

“I’m still a baby by God standards,” he said.

“The guys take care of you after I was gone?” you asked. 

“Yeah. I missed you though,” he said. “I accidentally killed Mary and sort of lost my soul for a bit. Things got bad for a while.”

“Do you see Kelly in heaven sometimes? Mary?” you asked. He nodded and you smiled. “Kids can fuck up and your parents will forgive you.”

“I’m sorry it has to be this way, Y/N. If I could snap my fingers to fix it all, stop it from ever happening, I would.”

“I’m going to trust that it had to be this way,” you said. “But give me a ballpark figure here. When do I get the guys back?”

“That’s relative. You’re going to end up breaking the space time continuum so it’s hard to answer that correctly.” You stared at him and he shrugged. “Not too long. A few days at most. I promise.”

“Wait is that how we have a twenty year old son?” you asked.

“Yes. The next time you see Dean he’ll be younger than the last you saw him. Just trust your gut and Lyle. Next time I see you I hope things are much better,” he said. You opened your mouth but he disappeared. You shook your head and turned around, Lyle now wearing his jacket, standing closer to the passenger seat door. For a long while you both simply stared, Lyle looking as if he’d just had his own long conversation with Jack. 

“You can call me Y/N if that makes it easier,” you said. He nodded and you took a deep breath, going to the driver’s side. “So. What’s the next move?”

“Jack just said after I got you out we had to go to Lebanon. He didn’t tell me anything more than that,” he said.

“Any idea where we are?” you asked.

“San Antonio,” he said. “So we go North?”

“Yeah,” you said quietly. “Mind taking the first shift driving? I sort of haven’t slept in like seventy years.”

“No that’s fine,” he said. He walked around the front and you made your way to the passenger side, climbing in and sighing. He got behind the wheel and took a deep breath. “You and dad run a construction business.”

“That’s nice,” you said, smiling to yourself. “Dean’d be real good at that kind of thing. He’s really smart.”

“I know. Most guys can’t call up their dad for help on their architecture homework,” he said. 

“You go to college?” you asked, Lyle nodding. “Do you know about...this stuff?”

“I’m still not convinced I’m not insane. I just got home on a friday night. We had dinner and everyone went outside to have a bonfire in the backyard. I went in to use the bathroom and Uncle Jack stopped me before I could get back outside. He said a lot of crazy stuff I didn’t believe but the fact you were in that basement...you and dad are only like forty but you’re obviously too old right now to have had me when that would have made sense and Uncle Jack said space and time is gonna break and-”

“Lyle,” you said, holding up a hand. “Relax. I just want to know, do you know what hunting is?”

“Dad doesn’t go hunting,” he said, narrowing his eyes. You smiled and nodded to yourself. “We don’t even own a gun.”

“I doubt that. But that must mean that something happens to the monsters along the way too.”

“What do you mean monsters? And why were you kidnapped in a basement? And what the fuck is going on? You’re supposed to be my mom that runs the family business and you kick ass in your soccer league in the summer and you can’t cook to save your life and that’s okay cause you’re really good at baking and pies and shit and I just don’t understand who you really are.” His face was flush, eyes fighting back tears. You smiled, reaching over and cupping his cheek.

“You’re a good guy Lyle. We obviously did something right,” you said, wiping away a stray tear that fell. “It’s scary. It’s really scary. I’m not your mom yet but I will be someday. I promise I will tell you everything you don’t know when I catch up to your time. Dean and I will. But we need to go to Lebanon and the faster we can go there and figure out what we have to do, the faster we can get you back home where you belong.”

“But can’t you-”

“This world isn’t safe, Lyle. It is very unsafe for a Winchester especially. Please drive now,” you said. You put on your seatbelt and he closed his eyes. “Please.”

“I was supposed to be having a smore right now,” he said.

“I know. But saving the world is kinda cool,” you said. 

“I don’t want to save the world. I want to go home and not see my mom be beat to shit. I want my dad to go back to teasing me at dinner and not being dead,” he said. 

“If we do this right, you can go back to that really soon. It hasn’t happened for me yet. We can talk all about this when you come back. The night you come back we can talk through it all. But we have to get going. The sooner we go, the sooner it goes back to normal.”

“It’ll never be normal again.”

“Yes it will. I promise.”

“How do you-“

“Because I just had this really bad thing happen to me but someday I’m going to have you and everything I ever wanted with Dean. So it sucks right now but it’ll be better eventually. I know it will. You’re here so I know it’ll be normal.” He nodded and wiped off his face, starting the car up again.

“Y/N. Are you okay after...you know...being down there beat up all that time?”

“Not really,” you said. He took off his jacket and handed it to you. You stared before he rolled his eyes, laying it over your front.

“Sleep. I can drive.”

“Lyle.”

“Y/N. Rest. It’s safe. I got this.”

“You take after your dad.”

“Take after someone else too,” he said. You smiled and nodded, resting your head on your shoulder, closing your eyes. “I’ll wake you up for breakfast.”

“Egg and-”

“Cheese on a biscuit, two breakfast burritos, extra hot sauce and a small hot latte.”

“At least my road trip order didn’t change,” you said, quickly relaxing and falling asleep for the first time in ages.

_______

A/N: Read part 2 here!

#tell me a story bingo #supernatural #spn #dean x reader #dean winchester x reader #dean winchester #supernatural fanfiction #dean #winchester #dean spn

[laf-outloud]

Jared Padalecki - Solo Panel Denver Con 2021 Favorite Bits - Part I

kay, I know I said I wasn't going to because I didn't particularly like most of the questions, but I can still find some favorite bits!

Nice jump at the beginning! Glad he didn't hurt anything!

And he's back, sitting backwards on the chair!

Ooh, we get to see some Pad'ankle'lecki! And his sheer thrill at getting rimshots! (And keeping count score between him and the audience!)

Preening at "You're so pretty!"

Jared quickly agreeing to share the sex of a baby and then joking about it ("a girl and two boys").

He may have shorter hair, but he keeps running his hands through it. I'm okay with that.

So proud of Genevieve and showing her off!

They lost Shep during the premiere of Walker. Found him behind a tree crying, asking if Daddy was the producer why he wanted to kill Mom.

Making a joke about a fan having the last name Bytheway (she didn't). It's extra funny to me because I have a few books from a John Bytheway.

Sam and Dean were respectful with women (but of course she'd be interested in Sam). And he'd take her out for Sweet Potato Fries (which is what he did with Gen on their first date).

Fan says he brought her back to life, he thinks she brought herself back to life and it's her strength.

How close was French Connection to his real life? Not at all.

Alpaca story - (they have an Alpaca wrangler on Walker). They're billionaires pets due to their expense.

He took the Sam Winchester riding a horse picture and it's in the garage with the Impala.

Practical weapons aren't used because Sam and Dean love a challenge!

His laugh!!!

Love Garth who took a poll and realized he tased people more than any other person (because he's so slight) whereas Sam and Dean get tossed around because they're bigger "and it looks cool".

No plans to address Stella's car crash on Walker (maybe season 9 or 10 - and yes, please, let's get that many seasons!!!)

Jared insisting that 20 is really young! (When you're nearly 40, yes, 20 is young, LOL!).

Love how Jared leans forward when listening to each question.

Aww! When talking about kids being ready for certain media, Tom's older and okay with Gen's death, but Shep's "a 7-year old emotional kid, much like his Daddy, who's also a middle child, or his Uncle Jensen, who's also a middle child." ***J2 ALERT - Did everyone else miss this? He still refers to him as Uncle Jensen!!!***

They watched Lord of the Rings over the pandemic and Odette is such a funny kid. She can't sleep at night because she doesn't want Gollum to get her, but during the day goes around impersonating Gollum. Jared wants her to "make a choice. You're 4."

Western movies watched as inspiration for Walker - (Jared mentions watching with his Daddy). So both Jensen and Jared mentioned Daddy in the con!

But he likes Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Han Solo-esque characters.

They want to make Walker timeless, but tell a story about Texas that the world can enjoy.

He worked on a ranch during high school, rode horses, and gardened.

He also has a director coming in that wants horseback riding (referencing Jensen with a wink!)

Favorite episode season 15 - The one he'll watch the least, the finale. He's lived with Sam and Dean for 15 years, and every day "the show was an honor and a privilege to do".

He and Ackles were given a huge responsibility for the finale. (Compared it to climbing Everest). Having the fans behind them helped.

The show will stay with him the deepest. He then asks the fan their favorite, which is The Last Holiday leading to the Cake story!

They had multiple cakes for multiple takes and Jared was still doing marathon training - he kept eating the cake between the scenes and ended up taking a whole one home and eating it within 36 hours.

Jared had to be one of the employers so he could be employable after SPN (jokingly).

They were hesitant about leaving the SPN family and going to other projects that weren't like a family and knew each other so well. (It would be a great question for Ackles. Jared will ask and report back). But he's glad Walker has become like a family.

Question about Gabriel being on S15. Jared made a joke about SPN being a "band of brothers", but talks about making "Naked Supernatural, not naked, but Naked Gun style of Supernatural" Ultimately, Gabriel would have helped the boys. But better or worse, now he has him as a director.

"Feels like yesterday and a lifetime ago."

Jared introduces himself to the next fan! (We know who you are, Jared).

Favorite paranormal shows: Twilight Zone, X-Files (shout out and impression to Mitch Pileggi), Firefly (YES!!!), Original Star Trek.

He really only watches animated shows with his kids. (Fish Talk - that's paranormal).

Jared being worried about a possible favor. It's just a birthday shout-out.

First thing he ever remembers: "I was swimming in a race against millions." Rimshot! (I'll admit, I don't get the reference). Remembers his sister being in a crib (around age 3). LOL! He totally lost his train of thought and got so flustered getting it back.

How's it being so tall? "It's warm up here!" Another rimshot! He gets a good look at everyone's dandruff (or lack thereof).

This got a lot longer than I anticipated since Jared had so many short-answer questions (as opposed to Jensen's thoughtful long-answer questions) so I've split it into two parts. Click here for Part II.

#jared padalecki #spn denver con 2021 #Jared's solo panel #Part I

[you-cant-spell-subtext-without]

now that I've accepted that I am forever unclean and that Analyzing the CW’s Hit TV Show Supernatural Specifically Dean Winchester is the regular hell loop that is my brain -

I Have Some Words to Say About Miracle (the dog):

Yes, this motherfucker.

(this episode contains SPOILERS from Season 15 of Supernatural including 15x09, 15x18, 15x19; TRIGGER WARNING - abuse, trauma, self harm, and spn 15x20 analysis).

I know we as a collective were confused (and angered) when instead of getting his One True Love at the end of the series, Dean Winchester got....a dog.  No offense Miracle, because you are cute and fluffy and I’d keep you forever

YES FOREVER YOU ARE SO FLUFFY COME HOME TO ME NOW

but

Dean Winchester does not like dogs.

Some have theorized it’s because he was killed by hellhounds at the end of Season 3, which is enough to give you a little canine PTSD:

Even explaining the following behavior in Yellow Fever:

He was also killed by this dog at one point in Mystery Spot:

It’s canon he has a strong aversion to dogs in the Impala:

(I would like to know more about Don)

There’s also probably lingering/repressed anger around that whole Sam never looked for him while he was in Purgatory situation:

There is, however, ONE prior episode in which Dean doesn’t hate dogs.

In Dog Dean Afternoon, when, as a side effect of a spell, he takes on the characteristics OF a dog.

(don’t let anyone tell you Jensen Ackles doesn’t have range, by the way).

SO MY THEORY ON “WHY MIRACLE” BASED ON THE AFOREMENTIONED IS:

As essentially everything, it all goes back to John Dumpster Fire Winchester, Father of the Year.

If you’re a John Winchester apologist, you should just stop reading now.  Also just don’t.  There is NO REASON TO DEFEND THIS MAN.

We know John was abusive.  Just one example of what  he put Dean through when he was NINE that he STILL remembers.

Also, this:

I could go on, but you get the picture. Why people were so thrilled when he came back for Lebanon keeps me up at night (nothing against the wildly talented Jeffrey Dean Morgan; he is fantastic, but John Winchester is trash). 

Dean’s childhood abuse is part of the reason he is convinced he is unworthy of anyone and anything.  It’s the first thing Cas notices about him.

Sam knows it too.

Even Crowley:

Abuse is generational.  Dean has shown he has potential to continue the cycle.

With Sam:

(not mentioned, lying, controlling Sam’s choices, the angel possession thing)

With Ben when he lives with Lisa:

He snaps at him about taking a gun from the Impala’s trunk at the beginning of Season 6, and then in Live Free or Twihard he physically pushes him against a wall (granted he’s a vampire at the time, but still - not an excuse).

With Jack:

At the outset of their relationship, Dean treats Jack the way John treated Sam.  He initially blames him for Cas’s death just like John blamed Sam for Mary’s (remember when John not only forced Dean to fucking single-parent Sam but later told Dean he may have to kill him seriously I could strangle this man).

Dean is terrified of turning into his father and perpetuating the cycle.  Remember the lyrical genius of Single Man Tear in Fan Fiction?

“But underneath this broken mask It is my father, with all his wrath”

That’s why he pushes away the people who love him the most.  He deeply believes he will inevitably hurt them.

He doesn’t even allow himself to begin a relationship with Jack at first.  The Jack/Dean arc is wildly important in all of this not only for representing Dean’s fear in perpetuating the cycle, but also because Jack/Dean is a narrative mirror for Dean/John.

Remember what Jack was doing before this? (TW: self harm)

Think about that in terms of Jack representing Dean.  Sit with it for a second.   Oof.

I posit to you this is also why Dean becomes so aggressive in using Jack to stop Chuck in Season 15.   Remember Dean consistently refers to the hamster wheel (a literal CYCLE) throughout this season.  This ties directly into Dean’s fear that he can’t control his life; that he is destined to become just like John - abusive and cruel. Team Free Will for Dean has always represented the glimmer of hope that this will not be his ending.

15x05:

The gun is gone, but it turns out Jack can be the weapon that ends God.  Think back to someone else who was fighting a Big Bad in Supernatural, and was so obsessed with finding the weapon to end him that he sacrificed everything, including his family for it.  Dean is acting exactly like John Winchester.  He’s perpetuating the cycle.  And that’s also part of the reason he shoves Cas away - because he believes this is inevitable, this is who he was always going to become.  

That’s why the purgatory prayer is BRILLIANT and important:

Dean is finally talking about his anger; his fear of the cycle. How his first response to stress and conflict is anger, just like John’s. He is acknowledging and accepting that this is in him, and sharing it with Cas.

WOOF ok so back to dogs.  You forgot this post is about dogs right?  So, we all know dogs give us unconditional love.  The best and truest kind.

Abusers also tend to abuse animals.  Dean’s aversion to dogs is a manifestation of the cycle of abuse. He believes if he gets a dog, he will inevitably abuse and torment it, because he believes that is who he is.  So he just acts like he doesn’t like them.

Until this happens:

And the very next episode, we meet Miracle.

Tell me this isn’t a man who has ALWAYS LOVED DOGS.

And BTW he has no issues having Miracle ride in the Impala.  Because that wasn’t ever the real problem to begin with.

Cas’s words of love helped Dean break the cycle.  

Reinforced in the finale (derogatory): 

When Chuck says -

Dean responds with that’s not who I am.  

And that’s the reason for Miracle.  Dean’s Team Free Will ending is breaking the toxic loop, and accepting love without fear that he will destroy it.  It’s acknowledging that while the history of abuse exists, it does not have to control or define him.  He chooses a different path.  He chooses to be defined by love.  

But he was still robbed of actually living his life with the people who got him here.  I will never stop screaming that he deserved better.  If you are fighting against this cycle, please know that you too deserve better.  

Oh and John Winchester 10000000000 percent belongs in hell. 

Which is why the Sexy Silence continues.

BONUS FOR SEROTONIN:

#spn meta #spn analysis #dean winchester #supernatural #spn family #spn fandom #spn meta fandom #psychoanalyzing Dean Winchester is my hyperfixation #longpost #feel free to reblog #mind the tws

[deancascore]

okay i’ve pinpointed why i get so upset by unreciprocated destiel takes. it’s because. because. because it takes me back to the #gaslightgatekeepgirlboss era of spn cast crew show and network when they just absolutely fucking refused to acknowledge destiel is happening. ppl will say “destiel is unreciprocated” and i’ll sit here and think “am i crazy? am i delusional? have i made up my own reality?” BECAUSE THE SHOW MADE ME THINK THAT FOR YEARS! basically what im saying is if you had to sit through season 8 to pre-despair season 15 of supernatural LIVE you deserve financial compensation

[fromcenotaphy]

Hi! Do you have any spn fics to recommend that have hbo spn vibes?👀

Ohhhh I am so glad you asked, anon, because it spurred me to sit down and go through my bookmarks and try to pick out all the fics that give me those vibes!

Here’s a couple:

That Black Dog Ache by SaltyWords (@winchester-reload on tumblr) - Dean/Cas, Season 11 casefic, minor TFW vibes, a gorgeously hot sex scene. Motel rooms, seedy bars, Cas in a leather jacket, Dean being self-hating and drunk and bi and head-over-heels in love.

Fata morgana by orange_crushed ( @robotmango on tumblr) - Dean/Cas, post-season 9. This fic is a GIFT. Bela POV? MoC Dean as the King of Hell? Endless midwestern Americana wasteland landscapes? Check check CHECK.

Double by crowroad - Short and eerie and gorgeous. Max and Alicia the witch twins. No plot just VIBES.

Revivere by aeli_kindara - WITCH SAM WITCH SAM WITCH SAM. Season 15, Sam/Rowena, side Dean/Cas, pagan vibes, Sam growing more powerful by the day and thriving.

Full list here *throws gritty confetti*

#spn #hbo spn #ask box #fanfiction #hbo spn fanfic #fic recs #hbo fanfic rec list #cenotaphy posts

[sobsicles]

Opening Line Tag Game

Rules: List the first lines of your last 20 stories (if you have less than 20, just list them all!). See if there are any patterns. Choose your favorite opening line. Then tag 10 of your favorite authors!

I was tagged by @dont-offend-the-bees - thanks! ill just do my spn fics and not any ive co-written because i didn't start the first chapters for those, though they're very good (Season Z and The Bad Santa Clause, respectively, that are fics written by a group of many amazing authors!)

Dean starts falling in love with him on a slow Sunday morning under slanted sunlight that slips through the gaps in the trees. — six hundred sundays (and many more)

Why did the curtains have to be yellow? — i want to do with you (what spring does to cherry trees)

In a bar on a Tuesday morning, it's a few months out from the final shot at the world ending. But hey, Chuck's long gone, and everything has worked out for the best, and the world keeps right on turning. Funny how that goes, huh? — dumbassery, denial, doing (the three d's to the destination)

There are certain moments in one's life when things go exactly as planned. It's like the stars align and the skies open up to reveal rays of sunlight and, against all odds, everything seems to be in perfect harmony. This is a phenomenon that Dean is genuinely not accustomed to, as it doesn't really happen for him. — finding hope (and finding him)

The first time she meets him, he's nothing more than an almost-missed appointment. — break the skin (to break the barriers)

The first time Dean and Cas kiss, it's not even really a kiss at all. It is, in fact, mouth-to-mouth. — a kiss for every season (literally)

The brass chip slides back and forth in a small path across the leaning desk Bobby has had for years and still hasn't gotten around to fixing. The chip reads: To thine own self be true. Unity. Service. Recovery. — separate ways and sleeping dogs

Getting used to Heaven is something of a marvel. It ain't perfect, and Dean thinks he'd hate it if it was, which is probably why it isn't. There's just enough human-esque nuances to it that keep it feeling like life rather than death, and he's thankful for that because he's got the smallest inkling that he should have gotten to live a little longer than he did. — oh sooner or later it all comes down to faith

So, the first thing that happens is Castiel comes back. It's at a pretty inconvenient time, considering the amount of pain Dean is in and how close he is to being dead. — things happen (they do, and they do, and they do)

It's not the first time Claire has ever gone missing. It is, however, the first time Kaia panics about it. — what's missing is found (our souls can exhale now)

It's different now, no matter how much they're pretending it's not. Mostly out of self-preservation, because sometimes their sanity is hanging by a mere thread and it's so obvious that they simply have no choice but to fake it 'til they make it. They've done a lot of that through the years, practically crafted it into a fine art, but this is the best performance yet. — according to all known laws of life

Time is different here. — what they deserve (it's better this way)

The first realization he remembers having is that the stars are oddly bright from where he lies sprawled on his back. The second, of course, is that there are troubling sounds coming from some vague point to his left. He supposes that's fair—vision and auditory processes are usually the first thing people make sense of when they wake. He knows that much, at least. Not much else, though. — Memories Bring Back Memories (Bring Back You)

Dean would think that a failsafe like this wouldn't exist. It doesn't quite add up in his head when he sits down and thinks about it, but Sam assures him over and over that it's well within the realm of possibility for the Men of Letters--supposed smart people--to come up with something as stupid as this. — home is where the heart is (and you have mine)

The blackbirds start singing a dawn. — profoundly bonded (by law)

So. So, the thing about desperation, and want, and desire, and how it controls, is that it's all bullshit, and Dean wants absolutely no part in it. — staring at ceiling in the dark, same empty feeling in your heart (love comes slow and it goes so fast)

Cas wasn't a music fanatic of any kind, Dean knew this firsthand. Sure, he listened to whatever Dean was listening to, or whatever was playing in the car on long trips. But he never went out of his way to listen to music in his spare time. — listen to the song in my soul (only you can hear)

All things considered, Castiel found solace in the fact that his life couldn't get any worse than this. — Just A Touch

There were a few things that were known about Dean Winchester, undeniable things that hadn't wavered once in his entire life. — a helping hand (let's not be friends)

Dean was merely ten years old when he discovered that bridges didn't close the gap between two worlds. — The Bridges We Built

insane to me that none of these opened up on dialogue. i don't open up with dialogue that often, as it turns out. also, most of these fics are dean pov. only three of these out of twenty are cas pov (1, 12, 18). my personal five favorites out of these: 3, 5, 10, 14, 15.

im supposed to tag people, but like, i want anyone who wants to do it to do it! if you see this and want to do it, definitely do so! tag me if you do; i'd love to see your answers!

#sobs says things #sobs adventures in writing #this is a fun lil thing to do actually #just something to pass the time #plus it's informative about my own writing so that's interesting #destiel #destiel fic

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching In My Time of Dying

Welcome to "Do You Think Sam Knows 'Light As a Feather, Stiff As a Board' Too?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog" with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2,e1: In My Time of Dying

 All three Winchesters experience their own Supernatural cold open when they are rushed to the hospital after that crazy-surprise crash at the end of last season. Sam and John are superficially banged up, but Dean is in a coma and the predicted outcome isn't great. He spends most of the episode out of body, trying to beat the reaper who's after him. Meanwhile Sam and John butt heads, as per usual, and also as per usual, John goes off to do what he sees as The Hero Bit without telling Sam anything about it. We witness our first Winchester-thinking-a-deal-with-a-demon-is-the-best-option, and it has the same kind of outcome it always does: other Winchesters are pissed and sad and in the end the deal doesn't really do much good. Awesome, John. Great job, as always. But for now, Dean is saved and safe, although more emotional damage has been dealt. Sigh

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

oooo, it's gonna be the Dean wandering around in jimjams, I mean hospital clothes, episode

 Mace:

 Ha! yep

Lor:

(I watched an S11 ep last night where Sam references Dean and John out after vamps when they were kids and we just watched that ep where John said he thought vamps were extinct and I was more annoyed by that inconsistency than is reasonable)

 Mace:

 (I would be too)

 Lor:

oh, my beat up boys

(not you, John)

 Mace:

ha!

 poor Sammy

 Lor:

yeah

god LOOK AT HIM

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

(I will forgive the nonsense of a car accident victim being dressed like that in the hospital because it looks so good)

 Mace:

 how many times are the boys the subject of the cold open, I wonder? Not very often, I think?

 Lor:

yeah, not often

and... hmm. Every one I can THINK of involves one or both of them being dead or we're worried they are

 Mace:

 that makes sense, since the cold opens are all about people dying

 Lor:

oh. YEP. they are

wow, I never... thought of that

 Mace:

taps forehead

always thinkin'. that's me

 Lor:

LOLOL

YES

 Mace:

 YOU TELL HIM SAMMY

 Lor:

oh JEEZ. hold me back from going RIGHT through the TV and strangling John

LIAR

"well you sure know something"

 Mace:

yep

I love Sammy saving the impala for Dean

 Lor:

YES

he understands that Baby is Dean. UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

"I gave you everything I ever had" OH DEAN

 Mace:

"what the hell kind of father are you?"

There you go, Dean. THAT'S the question

 Lor:

hold on to that feeling, baby.

 Mace:

 banged up and angry Sam is sending me someplace

 Lor:

yyyep

"Dean is dying and you have a plan"

omg, Dean is pissed at John and heartbroken and he's STILL trying to get between John and Sam

 Mace:

DO NOT PUT THAT ON SAMMY, JOHN

JFC

 Lor:

RIGHT?!

"now what?"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

poor Dean. he's having a day

 Mace:

 yep. Sammy too

 Lor:

yep

 Mace:

 but honestly, that's sort of the show

 Lor:

lol. it IS

aw, listen to him rattling off lore

 Mace:

 he pays attention when Sammy talks. Adorable

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOL

hey now

LIAR

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

"you can either roll over and die or you can fight"

 Mace:

 "you always have a choice” FUCK 327

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 (327? I can't remember the number)

 Lor:

it's like when they wrote the finale someone erased every episode of the show from their minds

 Mace:

 yup

 Lor:

don't sit on a hospital floor! gaaaaah

 Mace:

 ha! honestly it's prolly pretty clean?

 Lor:

Dean would only ever do this when he's a spirit, my little germophobe

 Lor:

shudders

nopenopenope

 Mace:

 Sammy's relieved reaction is adorable

 Lor:

YES

that gives me the SHIVERS even though we already KNOW that's what's happening

 Mace:

"you can't kill death" HAHAHAHAHA

Oh Dean, honey

 Lor:

lolololololol

 Mace:

 yeah, this is a pretty great episode

 Lor:

YEP

spirit!Dean framed in the tubes supporting his body

 Mace:

 yeah cool

 Lor:

"thanks for not giving up on me, Sammy" sobs

"you know, you read the most interesting things" THUD

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

omg that shiver when she touches him

 Mace:

yeah

the yellow eyes are so gross. sort of milky and just EW

 Lor:

right?

"we were just starting to be brothers again" oooof

 Mace:

 "we were just starting to be brothers again" omg Sam

 Lor:

YES

uh, he was in a car accident

how is that a warrior's death?

 Mace:

 well the enemy did stage the crash...

 Lor:

okay, I’ll allow it

poor Tessa. Doin’ some of her best work

 Mace:

 HA!

 Lor:

why does John do this? because he thinks Dean will have a better chance of helping Sam not turn evil than he does?

or is it bc he's afraid someone's gonna have to kill Sam to stop that and he's gonna leave that mess for Dean cause he can't do it himself?

or... wait. I guess originally he wasn't planning on bargaining with his own life

nevermind

pay attention, Lor

 Mace:

 Hm. I think he thinks it's what a father is supposed to do and it's heroic so that fits with what he's actually willing to do

 Lor:

Dean's "what are you doing that for?" like he was getting okay with the idea and then he got scared

 Mace:

 YES THERE IS AN ANGEL WATCHING OVER HIM

 Lor:

THERE IS

 Mace:

"well that's specific"

YOU TELL HIM SAMMY

 Lor:

lol

YES TELL HIM

 Mace:

 that cryptic shit is so tired

 Lor:

yep

Sammy, you tell him, then take your brother and get away from him

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

THAT IS NOT A POSITIVE MEMORY FOR DEAN, JOHN

CORRECT

 Mace:

YUP

it's too little too late, but at least it's something, I guess?

 Lor:

"it this really you talking?" OMG

 Mace:

RIGHT?!

"why are you saying this stuff?" = "that sounds like a goodbye" and omg Dean Winchester you sad little muffin

 Lor:

OMG YOU'RE RIGHT

EVERYONE DIES ON HIM and they just KEPT DOING IT instead of FINISHING THE STORY

 Mace:

 admission of tender feelings is always followed by loss for him and that's so flipping tragic

 Lor:

YEP

 [after the episode ended:]

Lor:

(the part of me that has a PhD in creative writing is INCANDESCENTLY peeved at the ABJECT failure of storytelling that was the finale. like, other parts of me are sad and hurt and other squishy ow feelings, but that bit? wants to THROW DOWN)

 Mace:

AGREED. I am hurt for the characters but I am LIVID at the shitty writing

 Lor:

EXACTLY

it's just especially galling that they had something pretty excellent set up and some awesome parallels right THERE. and just... nonsense. Tragic blither that ignored fifteen years of character development and themes

 Mace:

YUP. It seems almost spitefully done. Like, fuck you and your fancy story arcs and show development maturity, I want to revert back to the macho bullshit This Show Is Only About The Boys nonsense and fuck all if it doesn’t even make logical sense.

 Lor:

Ug YEP

And the thing is, if they wanted to kill off Dean in a stupid mundane way and have the whole show really just be an interlude in Sam's life before he ended up doing pretty much just what he would have otherwise (I think this always would have been a dumb ending, but if they ACTIVELY WANTED THAT), they could have set up S15 in a way that made that WORK as an ending. Something with inevitability and fate and God/Chuck and no longer being the heroes and etc BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THAT EITHER

 Mace:

NOPE

in every way possible that last ep feels like a shitty writer went rogue

 Lor:

Yep

It feels like the shitty first draft of a workshop story by a third-year undergrad who thinks tragedy and fatalism are automatically substantive and Art

 Mace:

 Yes. Who also feels threatened by the more talented women in the room and listens to Led Zeppelin because he knows he’s supposed to think they’re cool. And doesn’t actually understand why

 Lor:

SNORK

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