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messysketchyobeyme · 4 months
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MC: Guys! I’m finally back home from my harrowing journey where I was ripped from my home, loved ones, and everything I’ve ever known and thrust into the past and forced to fight and cope with the fact that all of my loved ones don’t know me anymore!!!
The brothers: great lol did you get any milk btw?
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nocreativityfornames · 6 months
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Not them getting together to take revenge on Mephisto
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inhuman-obey-me · 11 months
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Still love that Asmodeus truly has skeletons in his closet.
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yukis-tasks · 4 months
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Obey Me Nightbringer Lesson 20 Hard Mode
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Absolutely-No freaking way!
Does this mean that every time Raphael showed up throughout Nightbringer it was Michael??? Even when ‘Raphael’ was crying after Lucifer got punished at Cocytus?
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impish-ivy · 8 months
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Obey Me NB Lesson 21 Hard Mode
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acaribeau · 10 months
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Raph being all purist and trying to make Simeon and Luke to come back to the Celestial Realm the quickest because he thinks they are being corrupted
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Even if they have to lie
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I kind of pity om michael, because he's just another product of a flawed and fucked up system, but he has too much self righteous pigheadedness to actually question or accept such an idea.
(I actually kind of figure he was a lot like luke when he was younger, but unlike luke, he never got a chance to unlearn his prejudices and do better)
but that doesn't change the fact that he probably will be the most annoying guy ever to me.
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marathedemonoverlord · 10 months
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Lesson 17 Hard Mode Spoilers(???)
Just finished Lesson 17 Hard Mode ( Don't @ me. I'm taking anything I can get to stay invested ) and like.... Did Michael just love bomb the Angels? (ಥ ͜ʖಥ)
Maybe my ass just hates gifts cause I'm so difficult but like... Weird doting vibes- Anyways weirdly I feel bad for Raphael being caught in the middle of it all - He's so awkward I see myself in him (ಥ ͜ʖಥ)(ಥ ͜ʖಥ)
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houselamentation · 6 months
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angelinabowtie · 1 year
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Solomon started mammons gambling addiction 💀
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devildomwriter · 9 months
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Future Seasons Predictions
*Spoilers*
1. I don’t think Barbatos has been banned from using him powers by Diavolo yet. I think we will all see why he can no longer use them freely because of the events in Nightbringer
2. The devs hinted that Raphael, Mephistopheles, and Thirteen will eventually be dateable
3. The ending of season one hard mode implied Michael may want to attend RAD in the future so we may finally get a character reveal for him. If this does happen he may be included as a dateable as the same time as the others just to make things easier
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4. We’ll be getting more plot revolving the founding of RAD
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5. I imagine we’ll see a lot more fun nods to the OG game and see how other things turned out the way they did
6. Asmodeus is already popular but I believe we’ll see him fame skyrocket soon
7. The real Raphael will probably make an appearance soon to check things out for himself
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8. There will be a lot of tense “family” drama between the brothers and their former angelic brothers
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9. Hopefully some more comedic scenes between Mephistopheles and Thirteen
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10. I believe at some point MC’s identity will be revealed and in order to connect the timelines everyone will probably have their memories erased until MC returns to the present timeline and then they will all remember just how big a part MC played in their lives and with the Devildom
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messysketchyobeyme · 9 months
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I'm going insane over the fact that MC STILL hasn't met Raphael.
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alexxncl · 16 days
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‼️NIGHTBRINGER LESSON 33 SPOILERS‼️
masterlist | all lessons | lesson 32 | lesson 34
slight og lesson 16 spoilers
normal and hard spoilers
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see i knew he wouldn't rat them out completely. he completely left out the details of the pacts and feeling used and would've taken the blame if mc and solomon hadn't stepped in to fully explain the situation
(i made a whole post about time soup here)
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omg in-game name drop the devs remember the lore
i hate mephisto. have i mentioned how much i hate mephisto? bc i hate him /j
in all seriousness, we love a petty bitch. but why is it his WHOLE personality. that, and ass kissing. like we get it, you love diavolo and wanna date him and kiss him and hug him blah blah blah STAND UP
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satan :((((
i wonder if he feels remnants of homesickness that he can't recognize as homesickness bc of the way he was formed. what if he's feeling homesickness right now in the timeline mc is from and is now able to understand how his brothers felt after the fall?
what if this is the first time the boys in the og timeline have felt homesick since the fall? yes, mc has left before, but there was always a guarantee that they'd return, or at least a possibility that mc could summon them. but now? there's no guarantee, and there's a time crunch
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ASMO 😭 they're so unserious i love them
levi thinking he was gonna die trying to apologize and dia standing there like 🧍🏾
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oh they definitely know. and if both dia and barbatos don't know, barbatos obviously knows. bc why else wouldn't barbatos suggest portaling mc to the human world himself? and i bet lucifer's wondering the same thing given his confusion on how fast the conversation came and went
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got to see my wife, i can die happily now
WHY IS THERE NO AFFINITY FOR HER GODDAMN IT
or the other side characters ig but i care about her more
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SEE SEE I TOLD YOU!!! nightbringer you sneaky bitch
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oh that's scary...real scary. if belphie's got lucifer this fucked up, how strong are his powers ??
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WAR FLASHBACKS
also this means he didn't lose control of his powers, he's choosing to only subdue his brothers, which is even scarier imo. like there's no way mc doesn't have some kind of ptsd from what happened in lesson 16 of the og game
imagine seeing your best friends, your found family, your partner(s) sobbing over your dead body while someone you thought you trusted is maniacally laughing at the scene, proud of murdering you
and then imagine the same person lunging for you to try and kill you after he already killed another version of you
and then imagine this
what if he wants to hurt them again? what if he wants to lock them in the attic he claimed to know nothing about in the earlier lessons? what if he feels some strange connection and sense of familarity related to it, some strange invisible force pulling him towards it and making him do the very thing that happens to him in the future?
and then BAM, they get dragged into his mindscape against their will, unsure if they'll make it back out alive, if they make it out at all
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as a certified mammon lover ofc i had to put my 2 cents in
i really, really wish we got more moments of him in big brother mode. we know he cares about his brothers and will do any and everything to protect them and give them what they need, even if it means being the butt of every, and i mean every, joke
but i'm also scared that the devs are gonna use this as a way to paint belphie's breakdown on him like they did with levi's, and like they do with literally every other inconvenience or negative incident that happens in the game. every time mammon does something good, every time he tries to help, he still ends up being the butt of the joke. i just hope we can move past that with the end of belphie's breakdown
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elsecrytt · 1 year
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Obey Me Theory:
Simeon and Michael are the same person.
Disclaimer:
Yes, I know about the "But then wouldn't..." objections to this theory; I'll present my evidence and then address those at the end.
I came up with this idea after going through specific things in my personal MC lore, but there ended being so many things that fit that I actually really liked it.
To be clear, this idea is to say: Simeon is Michael's alternate identity. Simeon as we and others know him has always actually been Michael; there's no "real Simeon" hidden in a basement somewhere while Michael impersonates him.
Evidence (spoilers for Obey Me and Nightbringer):
There are hints and suggestions throughout the story - confirmed in hard mode in NB - that Simeon is actually a considerably powerful angel. Powerful enough to be a seraph like Lucifer was.
In Season 1 and 2 of the original Obey Me, Simeon acts as the representative of the Celestial Realm in the Devildom. He's obviously high up.
Diavolo says that Simeon is the one person he doesn't want to anger. Diavolo. The would be King of the Devildom.
Note that Diavolo can tell when someone is lying. Simeon does an excellent job of tip-toeing around issues and details, not disclosing the full truth, etc.
Diavolo says he finds angels in general difficult to work with. He finds Simeon difficult. And Simeon does live up to that difficulty (hard mode Season 2) - and he puts it a very interesting way.
He tells Diavolo that if a matter (the dangerous information Diavolo's been hiding from Lucifer all Season 2) concerns the Celestial Realm, then of course they'd interfere...
...that's what Michael told Simeon to tell him, anyways. Simeon speaks with a lot of authority for someone who's not even a seraph.
Pretty much all the information we get about Michael and his current intentions come from Simeon.
And after this - what happens?
The incident with the Ring of Light.
Mighty coincidental that Simeon happened to be able to stroll into Michael's Lucifer fan-shrine and nick the ring from there, huh?
The explanation Simeon gives for knowing that the ring existed - "Michael would never let something of Lucifer's go" - is also interesting.
If Simeon were Michael, then he would know the solution of giving MC the ring from the very beginning. It'd be easy for him to stay calm, cool, and collected - Michael already gave a mortal (Solomon) his ring, and he knows Lucifer's ring can do the same thing.
Additionally, we have the sequence where a voice - almost certainly Michael - speaks to MC in a vision sort of sequence.
The voice specifically says that it would have expected MC to be an awful person, since Lucifer and co. care about them so much.
Notably, Season 2 is also the turning point for several of the side characters. Diavolo and Solomon get some ship tease for feelings, and Simeon steals the ring for you...
But this conversation could also be Michael/Simeon acknowledging his feelings for you - a human. Simeon confesses to you in Season 3...
...where it's also revealed that his worst fear is his (and Lucifer's) father.
If Simeon is Michael, this makes a lot of sense. Michael, like Lilith, has fallen in love with a human. He's even also - technically - interfered in a human's lifespan by saving you. He would fear his father, for the same reason Lucifer would.
Now, this also makes plenty of sense if Simeon isn't Michael... but just imagine.
The bone-chilling terror of having fought and beaten Lucifer and his family, having killed Lilith...
Only to eventually fall into the same circumstances that she did.
But who will fall with Michael? Who will rebel against heaven to protect him? He expunged those who were guilty of this sin, and now he is guilty of it himself. He erased all possibility of change or rebellion with his own hands.
There are other reasons to be suspicious.
In Nightbringer, Simeon and Diavolo each attempt to tempt Solomon to their side. But Diavolo's angel counterpart in the Celestial Realm is Michael, the authority figure; not Simeon, the powerless archangel.
Simeon and Solomon get along pretty well. Michael liked Solomon enough to give him the Ring of Knowledge.
What else do we know about Michael?
Most people describe him as eccentric.
Simeon wrote?? A whole book series?? About Lucifer and his brothers????? Why???????
For bonus eccentric humor: in Season 2, Simeon writes a play. He puts Lucifer and Diavolo (who have been on bad terms with each other) into a love triangle with MC.
Season 2 marks a big breaking point for Luci and Dia's relationship, with MC at the center, and both of them develop feelings for MC.
Simeon recognizes it when people tease Luke - and he is basically Luke's guardian - and pretty much says it's okay up to a point.
"Sure, tease this little kid I'm responsible for, a little taunting is good for the soul." He even seems to imply he likes to do it, too XD
He actually takes a lot of weird antics and wacky hijinks with stride. I don't think it's because he's a responsible adult. I think it's because he's another weirdo, masquerading as a responsible adult.
Several characters also talk about Michael working Raphael very hard, and having very particular demands.
We see exactly how extreme and demanding Simeon can be in Season 2, when we put on a play. He has a vision. And he's going to make EVERYONE do it, RIGHT.
We also see Simeon the taskmaster with quite the temper in Season 3 when he's running a cafe. He gets EXTREMELY mad, to the point of getting everyone to sit down and obey him, despite being normally very calm.
Michael is a huge Lucifer fanboy.
Simeon is constantly texting Lucifer ingame, even when Lucifer ignores him. He also joins Diavolo in on complimenting Lucifer's looks as an angel.
He admits that he does care about Lucifer and the brothers. We get hints that Michael feels a similar way.
In Nightbringer - Simeon ruminates deeply over a specific day where he, Lucifer, and Raphael were spending time together.
Lucifer confirms to him that he had a nice day, that day - that Simeon did notice his discomfort, and it was a relief that Simeon reached out in the way that he did, even if Simeon is rethinking it now.
It makes more sense for Simeon to be ruminating over this if this day is just a representation of his inability to reach Lucifer, to make Lucifer see his side of things.
Anyways, that's most of the things I noticed that make it look possible.
So, why doesn't anyone recognize him?
There are a few different possibilities.
They don't know what Michael really looks like.
I've seen screenshots of a devilgram floating around where angel Mammon is chatting with angel Lucifer, and he mentions that Lucifer actually has twelve wings - he just doesn't have all of them out at once.
If Michael has a similar number of wings, and does use all of them, then it's possible no one ever got a good look on him.
Also notable is that Lucifer's angel outfit is pretty conservative - if Michael was similarly clothed, with the addition of gloves, and some kind of veil/mask (he is supposed to be eccentric), they actually may just legitimately not have a good picture of him.
For personal reasons (I want to know what Michael looks like), this is my favorite theory.
Michael has used a glamour to change his appearance.
I'm relatively sure that angels can do this; they can "wear" their wings or not, and demons have similar abilities, so I don't think it's out of the realm of reason.
No one remembers what Michael looks like.
When we meet Michael in the finale of Season 2, we see just a glowing light from above. It's possible that we did see Michael then, but we just don't remember it.
Lucifer and his brothers might have forgotten Michael's appearance post-fall.
Michael texting himself? Simeon's punishment?
The text from Michael to Simeon was the most obnoxious dramatic conceit in the game.
We don't see ANY more communication between the two, at all, and are only informed of any of it afterward. It was literally just there to be a cliffhanger/source of excitement.
I think the hint is in season 3, where Simeon's greatest fear is his father.
Because if Simeon is Michael, then there's only one higher power who can punish him. The fact that Simeon was hiding who he was - that could also really explain his dodgy behavior in Season 4.
After all, after punishing Lilith for doing exactly what he just did, it'd be extremely hard to face them and be honest about what happened.
There's probably more to this theory to iron out and explain, but yeah. I do like the idea, and find the possibility fascinating - for some reason, I've picked up a bit more on Simeon these days.
Nightbringer really has made the side characters soooo much juicier >.>
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yukis-tasks · 4 months
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Obey Me Hard Mode Lesson 24
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impish-ivy · 1 year
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Hard mode story for lesson 12
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