#scared wincest shipper

[loveofastarvingdog]

Brother's Keeper — timothy l.l.s.h.

for the @spnpoetryrenaissance day 3 prompt: childhood

wincest shippers don't interact 🔪

sometimes i wonder about the cain and abel of it all, and sometimes i wonder about the first time sam died. i don't know how to explain this one, i'm having a weird night and having emotions about siblings

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[Image Description: a poem that reads

I could be my brother’s keeper— I could hold him in my child’s arms and keep him and I Could tell him that he was safe.

Little lamb in my arms, I could keep you.

Think I read somewhere That a lamb’s tail must be cut short To keep it safe, ‘cause it could get caught on something Or get matted or—

Well I forget, but the point is, you dock its little tail, And it bleeds.

I remember when you hardly had any hair, Not for being shorn but for Being an infant.

Got peach fuzz ‘n nothing more, And I laughed at the sight and rubbed careful hands Over the dome of your head and Made sure not to press too hard on your soft spot.

Good thing, too, ‘cause now you’re smart as a whip and Made it all the way to college and All the way out from under  Dad’s shadow—

I’m sorry.  I don’t know what I’m saying. I know that’s not something you wanna talk about.

Remember the toy soldiers? Remember how we Made them march and Pretended they weren’t us? D’you remember the legos we stuffed into the vents?

They’re still rattlin’ around in there, I swear, Louder than my lungs right now, loud as I’m gasping. Louder than you crying—

Louder than—

I’m scared.

I could be my brother’s keeper, long as I get to keep him.

Sorry for  Dragging you out of bed that night and For wrestling you in the dark. Honest to god, I just wanted to see you smile, One more time, Before I said it.

Sorry for remembering the lamb that you were, Cradled tight in my arms and I’m sorry for Loving you the way I knew how to love a lamb.

Docking its tail.

Letting you bleed.

—timothy l.l.s.h.

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#image description #spnpoetryrenaissance #timothy l.l.s.h. #timothy's txts. #spn poetry #poetry

[deanwinchesterpregnant]

Omg you’re so close to finishing. Last season! How are you feeling?

I’m so close!! I can’t believe it!! Lol icb it took me 10 months…

But omg, lots of things. If you’ve been reading my liveblogs you know I’ve been fairly critical of the later seasons. They go so up and down, right; for me there’s been some really good fillers but I’ve felt a little ehhhh about the overall plots. I’ve used this phrase a bunch but it really feels past its expiration date at this point, you know?

Not to say I haven’t enjoyed it! Or I wouldn’t have continued. There’s been some high highs to counteract the low lows, but I do feel like it’s at a good place to end so I’m not…sad? In fact I’m really looking forward to being able to read and write transformative work about post-canon. I’ve always felt stories should end when they’re over and those lost moments should be left to transformative work; it’s what keeps a fandoms thriving 😌

I’m so glad I watched it honestly. I didn’t while it was airing and in its heyday because I was so scared of everything back then so first all I’m proud of my personal growth in the types of horror I can handle haha.

But the reason I finally watched it was because of fandom anthropological reasons almost? As an incest shipper and omegaverse enjoyer — almost since its conception — I felt the need to understand where it all began. And man, do I. There’s a reason this show has so much staying power. There’s a reason that there’s spn cons in 2023, that there’s 100k+ fics on ao3, that there’s an active fandom on tumblr that’s more than a handful of people.

What an amazing world and characters that’s been created and what amazing stuff has come out of it, you know? And like god. WHAT A SHIP WINCEST IS, HUH?

So sorry for the long-winded answer, but yeah, it’s been special! Not to sound too corny but it really has been and I’m so glad I came back to tumblr for it because it’s been so great to meet y’all and thanks to everyone who has come along for the #23 spn liveblog ride ❤️🙏🏼

#spike’s box

[deanjohn]

i forgot how but i stumbled across your blog by complete accident and now im oddly hyperfixated on incest ships. not even in a horny way or whatever, your blog just unlocked a very specific part of my brain that is extremely fascinated by incest and i cannot lock it away. its to the point that i am so tempted to make a sideblog for it all but im too scared to commit and go that far. i was also an avid destiel shipper since i was a child but wincest scratches an itch in my brain i never knew i had. they are so fucked up and codependent and in love and it makes me sick. hope you're having a great day 😁

i’m so glad that i awakened this in you <3 and i say go for making a side blog! if this is something you find joy in then i don’t think you can go too far :-)

#they truly are sickening. it’s everything #bug.txt

[codependentfreaks]

Being a wincest shipper on here is so scary cuz so many times I just wanted to reblog a funny spn post then I checked the tags in reblogs and saw op saying if any wincestie reblog’d this post they were gonna rip me apart. IT’S NOT EVEN IN THE ORIGINAL POST TAGS BUT IS HIDDEN IN THE REBLOG TAGS. It’s not like I don’t respect boundaries but…

Anyway just also wanna pop in and say hi! Hope you’re having a nice day!

Omg yes?????

It really scares me too bc sometimes we just wanna share the post without any Wincest tags or anything, but people will bully us based solely on our username. It sucks, but at least we have each other, right?

And hi!! My day is going great, what about yours? Don't forget to drink a lot of water!

#samdean #supernatural #wincesties touch this post pls #wincest

[nancylou444]

Honestly it’s hilarious that some people who ship j2 outside of the show but then shit on wincest shippers are so full of it. Like, it’s literally hilarious to me that they can ship two very real hetero men together, but then say shipping two fictional characters is wrong. It’s literally like Ian Somerhalder and Paul Wesley (Stefan/Damon) from the vampire diaries. (I’m a scared to be proud wincest and defan shipper ❤️)

Now I just have to go through and delete/orphan my destiew fanfics I wrote forever ago as a teenager when I was too scared to be open about my OG ship—wincest. Now I’m older and just don’t give a shit what a bunch of Gen z babies think. Ps, ily nancy!!!! ❤️❤️❤️

Yes, it's okay to treat real people as 'characters' to ship, but to ship fictional brothers IS BAD. Never understood that.

Oh yes my darling, I was never a fan of Stefan, BUT I do love Damon and Stefan's codependency.

Older and wiser is always a good way to go, my darling.

Love you more. 😘💕💕

#anonymous #wincest #damon and stefan #i love my anons

[powerosewaterpuff]

Dean and Sam AU with a bigger age gap between the brothers

Warning, if you are a freak wincest shipper get away from me and this blog I do not want you here and I never will! Bye!

  anyways these are a few headcanons that came into my head instead of studying for my midterm which is a common theme. once again they are brothers and they also have a poignant parent-child relationship but in this little AU they have a bigger age gap like 7 years in-between them. anyways heres some random ideas enjoy and yes the grammar is awful its alright 

     dean remembers when his father backhanded him when he was 15, he had done it so many times before that dean didn't even react, not even a flinch. but sam was watching, sam was fucking watching. john had never hurt dean in front of sam, because dean begged him not to, that sam would not have to see it and dean wouldn't make a single noise and he wouldn't misbehave again. this time john was to blearily drunk out of his mind with tequila running through his veins when he knocked dean to the floor. dean cant look at sam, he cant. he wants to scream out of rage when sam runs over to him and fucking shields him, this tiny little brother, who still has rosy cheeks and tiny arms curled around dean's head pressing him against sams little chest that is heaving in panic. dean was useless, a useless sack of shit who couldnt protect his baby whose trying to protect him from the man looming over them. sam, who has tears running down his face (dean is convinced he’s dying, he has never felt a pressing pain like this in his chest before from the second he saw sam’s eyes glisten with tears), turns to their father and silently stares at him. john moves, ever so slightly and dean snaps out of the shocked haze he was in and grabs sam, pulling him down to his chest and curling around him. he presses his face into sams hair, roughly pressing a kiss to his head trying in his pathetic state to comfort his baby. dean's eyes still turn up and glare at his father. not in front of sam not in front of fucking sam we had a deal and this was not fucking it.

john stumbles back, hastily trudging out of the motel room. they stay in this position, curled around each other, holding on tightly trying to hold the other together in a misaligned attempt to protect. it wasn’t until the growling of the impala began to fade into the distance did sam shift in deans hold. he whispers in this little soft voice that is trying so hard not to cry it makes dean tear up; dean r you ok? do u want ice dee? dean cant stand it, he cant. he scoops sam up and situates him on the bed them kisses both of his cheeks, his slip of a nose and his forehead. he presses his face into sam’s little pudgy stomach and holds him, holds his baby close to him. he wants to say hes fine, the words gurgling in his throat but somehow unable to come out. the only thing able to crawl out his tightening throat was sammy. sammy sammy im so sorry sammy

eventually he pulls away and pushes sam's fringes out of his face and wants to break the lamp to his left when he sees the worry shining so brazenly in sam’s eyes. he whispers that hes okay, that he doesnt have to be scared. dad will never do that to him, do you understand that? its ok sammy. sam possibly looks even MORE distraught and begins babbling abt how hes worried abt dean what if daddy does it to you again dean? does ur cheek hurt u didnt answer me dee, im sorry.

dean pulls his kid up, and stumbles over to the kitchenette to bring a pack of frozen peas that ached when they came into contact with his now swollen bruise. he presses another kiss to sams thankfully untouched cheek. he keeps reassuring sam, that dean is fine his cheek is fine, everything is okay. do u know why im okay sammy? bc ur here with me. I have my little buddy here and thats all I need, isnt it. but sammy, sweetheart, if daddy ever does this to you and im not here, you tell me? do u understand me bud? you have to tell me. sam huffs asking why its ok for dean to get hit but its a big deal if he does. dean scoffs softly, (sam doesnt know the extent dean would kill himself for him.)

dean mumbles that sam is like a little angel and sam rolls his eyes but dean urges him to listen. he says the day sam was born it was to bless dean with an angel, and now he has it and his job is to protect this little angel. sam doesnt believe him for one minute but feels so so warm and protected with dean speaking to him like this, softly without a hint of teasing but all this honey tenderness that felt like it had sam cocooned in its eternal glow. sam leans forward gently, and gave the most gentle kiss to deans bruised cheek and said dean always does that when he gets hurt. dean cant help but cuddle closer to his brother while he scoots onto the counter, curling his whole body around sam, and not for the first time wishing he could just hide him in his aortas and vena cava's so nothing could hurt him.

dean cheers like crazy at sammy's soccer games. he cant help it bc look at his fucking boy go! sam has always been fast, able to out run and flip through anything. he’s the smallest one on the soccer team but he weaves and ducks through everyone, scoring three goals consecutively and absolutely pissing everyone off. dean would whoop and cheer while sammy danced around after scoring a goal. that’s my boy did you see my boy?

when sam was around 3 and dean was 10, sam became obsessed with sumo wrestling bc it was the only thing playing on the sports channel at 12 am and sam thought it was the absolutely coolest thing he had ever witnessed in his three years of living. he would beg and prod at dean to wrestle with him and dean took it as an opportunity to show his little brother a little well needed big brother humility. dean never lets sam win, he doesnt want it to go to his head! it becomes an ironic ritual even when sam is 10 and dean is 17 and their wrestling on the ratty couch of their rented apartment, or when sam is 12 and dean is 19 with sam pouncing on deans back and declaring a sumo wrestle in which dean calls him a little goddamn cheater and they wrestle throughout bobby's living room. it wans and ebbs and flows throughout the years but once a sumo wrestle was declared one cannot back down.

they were always very cuddly growing up. deans chick flick shit really only applied to others, not exactly sammy (no matter how much dean insisted upon it). when sammy was a baby all dean wanted to do was cuddle and coo at how cute sam was, to just feel his warmth like a soft quilt on his own small chest. a lot of times in motels they had to sleep on the same bed, which always ended up in their limbs tangled together in a warbled mess sam becoming dean and dean becoming sam. an endless continuum of a person split in two yet somehow still a conjoined whole. an infinity sign. two loops forever intertwined by a single crossing that could thin and stretch but was forever unbreakable. touch was always a crucial part of their brotherly relationship as children, a critical reassurance of existence. sam’s baby hand curled around firmly in deans own. dean sprinkling sam’s face in kisses, his little nose and on his eyes lids, on top of his downy hair and over his brow then twice on each cheek, each rose coloured cherub cheek that made dean want to cry bc that was his baby (dean was sams motherfatherbrother after all). he would tickle sammys armpits and press kisses into his cheeks while sam giggled and laughed. im going to eat these cheeks, im gonna eat it im gonna eat it! deanieee deannn! the world could rise and set, but dean was happy.

dean remembers the time they got kidnapped by a cultist group when they were younger. dean--a wild bull of an 18 year old and sam a little 11-12 year old and he’s too young and too small and dean hates his father for doing this to them sometimes, for doing this to sam. 

they approach sam and dean is screaming his voice hoarse, because they cannot touch his brother, dean would rather fucking die, he takes the beatings but firmly stays in front of sam, crawling back when he is thrown against the wall, bc that fear in his brothers eyes is so much worse than the broken ribs grating from the inside of his chest. that fear has him in a chokehold bc if his brother isnt okay then dean isnt okay and his brother has to be okay. if he isnt okay then what is the worth of being okay, what is the worth of fucking being if sam isnt okay. john manages to reach them and dean is barely breathing but he sees a bruises forming on sam and he feels like crying, hes in the back, deliriously slurring that sam needs to be taken care of while their father grips the wheel, jaw locked with eyes numbingly focused on the road. sam is quietly crying and reassuring him that HE is okay but dean isnt and dean needs the help, then dean murmurs that sam is bruised, that his little baby brother is bruised and he needs an icepack, that sammy, kiddo, please dont cry, you know how much it hurts me when you cry. 

dean, with shaky arms that arent quite working pulls his brother into a hug, trying to soothe him while he coughs up blood and sam begins to get into hysterics and john just keeps driving and driving.

john leaves them at bobby’s, and bobby whose face goes pale and feels the irresistible urge to lunge forward and snuff the life out of john winchester’s lungs. to watch that fucking man feel the suffocating hell that he feels when he sees dean keeping his brother close, insisting that bobby check him first, that he will not get checked if sam isn’t. 

bobby tries his fucking best to reason with dean but even through delusional and delirious pain he is insisting with this dazed but somehow steely gleam in his gaze that sam needs to be taken care of first. sam even tries to reason but dean shushes him quietly, running a battered hand through his unruly hair and keeps his eyes on bobby who rues the day he got to know the winchesters. he comes back with a few icepacks and band-aids galore for sam who insists he can do it on his own. dean visibly relaxes, tension releasing ever so slightly from his shoulders and finally lets bobby help him but his eyes are focused on sam, quietly and hoarsely instructing him on how to place the icepack properly, that he needs to wipe that cut with alcohol. at one point he tries (fails) to get up to help sam apply to alcohol but bobby pushes him firmly back against the bed, and sam considers leaving the room so dean doesnt have to focus on him. dean practically yelps a hoarse no, that he'll shut the fuck up fine but sammy please stay in the room ok? sam huffs but nods. jaw tight and eyes drilling holes into the wooden floor beneath him.

when dean is bandaged and laying down in the bed, he stretches a hand out, waving for sam to come over when he sees sammy’s little head pop into the room. sam approaches the bed gingerly, a vengeful anger at those people that hurt his brother searing his eyes. dean insists on sitting up despite the needless and stupid protests from sam, letting his tightly wrapped hand cup his little brothers face decorated with little band-aids. dean pulls his brother into a half hug, with sams forehead pressed against his chest. sam snakes his arms around his brother, gently as to not agitate the wounds. sam doesnt even realize until a few seconds into the hug that dean is shaking, his head shoots up fearing the worst but deans face is twisted in rueful disdain, regret and anger. he places a kiss onto sams springy curls, whispering that if this happens again, do not argue with dean abt getting taken care of first. sam’s chest puffs up and he spits out in an incredulous tone that what dean just said was the stupidest thing he’s ever heard. dean does not rise to the bait, simply stating that this will not happen again, but if it does, sam gets help first for himself and there is no debate. do you understand sammy? no fucking debate.

sam stays quiet, and dean doesnt push for an answer, just holds him brother to him as he reassures himself that he’s alivealivealive and life is still worth living. next day, dean hovers around sam even though he needs rest but what he thinks he needs is reassurance that his brother is ok, alive and well. sam keeps trying to tell him that hes fine but dean just shakes his head and quietly watches him. john comes back in five days and says its time to go, bobby raises hell but its hard to raise hell against a man who thrived in it. john just tells his boys to get in the back of the impala and that they were going, okay? sam wants to argue and fire is swirling in his tongue, dean gives a yessir and tells sam to go grab deans stuff from upstairs. the look dean gives him is undebatable, one that means sam has to stand down, for dean. once they sit in the back of the impala, their dad says in this quiet voice that sam does not like one bit that they are going to stay in north carolina for a while so get comfortable. dean grabs an old blanket from bellow his seat and wraps it around sam wordlessly, pulling him closer to dean. he asks if sam wants some music to sleep. sam, who just wants to light this stupid impala on fire and watch this life he hates burn into the ashes of the night, nods. he nods and curls up next to dean who places the old headphones on his head attached to the beat up barely working walkman that can only play a loop of three songs. everybody wants to rule the world by tears for fear. africa by toto. and black dog by led zeppelin. sam starts to fall asleep to everybody wants to rule to world with dean turning up the volume while john works up a rabid rant abt the stupidity of their misstep in getting caught. dean can take it, he would prefer sam stay peacefully sleeping for this part though.

sometimes - no all the time, sam is the only thing that keeps dean going. when hes tired down to the essence of his bones, sam will walk in from school, and gush over a book he was reading or insistent they play basketball out in the courtyard bc jeremy showed me some moves i can fucking beat you dean! or when sammy was so little and young and used to give deans drawings and sloppily made bracelets with tight hugs and a whisper of how much he loved dean. he once told dean when he was five and dean was around 12 that he didnt need john, not as long as he had dean. dean gave him a pat and a big smile but cried himself hoarse in the bathroom after that, then came out and saw sam sleepily trying to keep his eyes open whilst reading a childrens book and crushed him into a hug. 

when sam openly with no conditions or accusations told him that he loved dean, that dean was the best big brother in the world, dean knew that only sam could ever love him unconditionally, that sam deserved everything in this world and he would ensure that sam had everything he could have even if he wanted to keep him close to his chest at all times. sammy doesnt complain and dean hates it, he hates that sammy isnt complaining abt the shit he has to go through. when they get older and sammy does start to bitch and complain its never towards dean, its always towards their father. sammy could be a little pain in the ass, complaining abt mundane shit like fucking boredom and how he deserved to go on hunts or how hunts were awful whatever he decided that day or year). but never once did he complain abt the food he had to eat, or the clothing he had to wear or the shoes that were tearing at the seams. sam would always thank dean, even if the only thing he had breakfast lunch and dinner was fucking coco puffs. 

dean would then take matters into his own hands (he had always been a natural pickpocket) and would watch as sam got proper food the next day. he didnt care that his stomach was aching from the hunger, it would just have to be satisfied with sammy being able to stay healthy. sam would quietly say that dean should eat too, and when dean started to spill out hastily made fucking lies sam would start to beg that dean eat, dean assured him that he'll eat after dont worry sammy. (sam intentionally left stuff on his plate bc dean would not go get smth to eat and he knew dean ate sams leftovers). dean continues to make sure sammy survives, but he worries. he worries so much because dad didnt leave enough money and the motel doesnt have heating and sammy is so skinny, so fucking skinny that the wind would blow him over if he stood outside too long enough. they dont have money for haircuts so dean will always do sammy's hair, and sam did whine and moan and they’d get into little petty fights bc you cut too much u ass, but sam would always thank dean at the end of it, giving his brothe hug. sam didnt know what dean would do so that sam would just happily hug him like that for the rest of his days, the things dean would endure if that was what he had to do to gain that.

(Again this is just a random smattering of headcanons i wrote late at night with nothing better to do so enjoy! I’m arab and I tend to project our family customs and affection habits onto others. we are incredibly affectionate with family with constant touch and words of reassurance being prominent so i tried to show that with the boys here esp bc they have a bigger age gap meaning dean feels even more like a parent. this is NOT gencest or wincest or incest they are brothers. point blank do not argue with me. just bc u ppl arent used to close family dynamics where love is affectionate and that affection not weird and disgusting doesnt mean the rest of us are like that. on a lighter note again the grammar is ass idc this isnt one of my uni essays)

#sam winchester #dean winchester #spn #supernatural #brothers #no wincest #brotherly affection #feels #angsty #family #family dynamics #siblings #weechesters #abusive john winchester #dean is sams parent #he is that boys father mother and brother #they care about each other so much #headcanon #fanfic #work in progress #im getting used to the fandom so im trying to get the characterization how i see it #grammar is bad #supernatural tags #supernatural things #no incest #thats so disgusting #they are family #and that is all they will ever be #supernatural dean #supernatural sam

[alissa3000]

Wincest shippers scare me

#haunts my dreams #wincest #sam winchester #dean winchester #supernatural fandom #alissa3000

[mute-jensen]

I recently got several hateful asks at once. Right now I have like 12 hateful asks in my inbox. And it was not wierd for me that such a thing happened because I had clearly explained my opinion to some people, but it was wierd to get all these asks at once. Before starting my blog, I had blocked all the Bronlies i knew so that they couldnt find my blog and couldnt bring their hatred into it. But surely all these bronlies finding my blog all of a sudden was suspicious. Then I looked around and finally found the blog I was looking for.

The owner of this blog screenshots your post and puts it in her own blog with an EXPLANATION. You can read her bio.

I literally found every destiel post i have ever posted in this blog.

I really dont blame her . When you dont like something bad as wincest and you say you hate it out loud this happens.

But whats her problem with other blogs😕

Like @flowersforcas :

Or @roguecas :

@trenchcas :

@superduckbatrebel :

@princesscas :

@castiel-left-his-mark-on-me :

And many others...

I dont know you but i really dont like people take screenshots of my posts and mock it.

And ofc she came to myblog (where else she should go):

This one was my fav:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Does it really matter????

But wow, thank you so much for showing how problematic my spelling is( i really dont double check my post for spelling errors ). Honey, English is my fourth language and I'm still learning. Posting in tumblr is just a hobby for me to strengthen my writing( as you can see im not doing any progress😐) But maybe for you a person who knows four languages ​​and does not know how to spell a few words is an illiterate person, OK whatever you say!!!

If you dont want your posts to end up there ...

BLOCK HER NOW!

#anti wincest #destiel #supernatural #scared wincest shipper

[milfsamwinchester]

*

#i might make a post going more into my thoughts about this later #but i think the strict divide between samdean shippers/nonshippers + sam stans is hurting everyones enjoyment of the show and sam and dean #like this divide. does not exist on spn twitter. samdean shippers/sam stans/nonshippers all follow each other and are in the same gcs #and are close friends #deancas shippers dont get it and will be like wtf why do you follow a wincest shipper and theyre like 'theyre my friend' and thats that #on the basic level samdean shippers just adore the canon relationship between sam and dean ! #we see their relationship the exact same way nonshippers do ! theyre platonic soulmates and thats so interesting #we just go in a different direction in terms of exploring their relationship in fanon. thats it thats the only difference #sam and dean are so fucked up in the show that ive had ppl come to me being like ?? i dont know if i ship sam and dean or not ??? #if u dont read fics then where IS that line of shipping and not where does it cross over from just enjoying their relationship in the show? #being afraid of being labeled as a samdean shipper has scared people away from talking about sam n deans relationship #to the depth they deserve. and that sucks ! their relationship is so complex i think everyone deserves to get to dig into and study it ! #samdean shippers have stuff to offer gen stans and gen stans have stuff to offer samdean shippers #anyway i do have a lot of mutuals who dont ship sam and dean ty guys youre awesome this is more looking at tumblr fandom in a broad way

[trials-era-sam]

JFC why are these anons so bothered by Wincest adjacents 🙄

Oh no I know - you’re too scared to spew your hate to actual Wincest shippers. Aww. Actually you’re right, don’t - they don’t deserve it. Just go outside and stop sending angry little messages.

Hint: you can criticize my adjacent-… ness?? as much as you want - ain’t gonna make me change my mind. At least Wincest shippers don’t come questioning my description in my inbox lol But sure, you’re the “nice” side of the fandom. Keep telling yourself that.

Also learn the difference between reality and fiction before interacting with fandoms. And you’d also benefit from watching this.

Psst there’s a reason why there are no D/C adjacents and it’s because you’re rude and attack people for no reason which is why no one outside of your echo chamber likes you

#i blocked and deleted but i still had to rant apparently #anti destihellers #and it’s ‘would’ not ‘wud’ #why are all of their ‘o’ keys broken

[shipcestuous]

Hi!

I'm Chinese. In my country, lots of people tend to ship some incestous couples like wincest or maxicest.

Meanwhile, some of us think foreigners like American or Korean tend to not ship some incestous couples like we do. I'm wondering if it is true, or just bias? And some of us think the reasons why foreigners don't ship incestous couples is beacuse they're born in a big family and have a lot of siblings. I don't think it is true.

Do you think a lot of foreigners like American don't ship incestous couples is true? And what is the reason that the foreigners tend to not ship some incestous couples like Chinese and Japanese?

Hello!

Thank you so much for sharing your perspective and asking this question! It's really interesting to hear what you've said.

Sometimes I think it's hard to know what people really think because the conversation can be dominated by certain types of people. Those who disapprove strongly of shipping incestuous couples can sometimes - often, it feels like - make their voices heard and create an environment where those who do like those couples or who don't really care one way or another don't feel comfortable speaking up. Many incestuous shippers have been scared into silence.

Also, sometimes the only way we have of getting a sense of what fandom is thinking is on social media and blogging sites, but that's usually not the whole picture. Only a fraction of people who watched Supernatural participate online in the fandom, so you're never going to know what the majority of them really think. This doesn't apply with all non-canon incestuous couples, but in terms of Wincest, you just know it sparked a ton of shippers, even though they're not reading/posting fic and things like that.

I do think there can be cultural differences between countries, but I also particularly think that there's an anglophone online culture against incest that has gotten worse over the past few years.

I have never seen any evidence that incest shipping is more common among people with no siblings. But it would be very interesting if we could somehow know that incest shipping was a lot more prevalent in a place like China that does not have as many families with multiple children.

There are lots of incest shippers in the United States and Korea and anywhere where fandom is present, but I can't say whether there are less, in the sense of a percentage or a per capita rate, so to speak. And again, less judgment keeping the shippers down is probably also a factor.

I couldn't exactly answer your question, Anon, but I hope the discussion was relevant. Thank you for bringing this up!

#asks #anonymous #discussion #noiv #nr #tw: incest #t: antis #t: incest and culture

[gabriels-lollipop]

I’m actually kinda scared now. I’d say I’m a veteran destiel shipper but I’ve always lowkey shipped wincest but. Now I’m scared about shipping both ships. Bc so many wincest peeps hate on the destiel ship—which is understandable—and vice versa. But I’m scared and sad because of how much hate those ships cause in the fandom. We’re supposed to be family. But we’re separated. 😞🥺

#I never thought I’d see so much hate for characters or actors #but the amount of hate on j2m is so fucking sad #I just wanna forget spn exists sometimes #destiel #sabriel #supernatural #dean winchester #Castiel #sam winchester #gabriel #spn #wincest

[adashofwincest]

people who hate the finale i just want to ask why? i mean it wasn’t a surprise. the show has A L W A Y S been about the boys and their relationship. it started with them and it ended with them. why is this a surprise/ a dissatisfying moment?

wincest shipper or not it’s the ending that was always meant to happen. the show was always about the brothers and their relationship. literally always. it wasn’t a surprising ending. very satisfying ending yes, but surprising no.

when the angels were introduced and castiel came in, it was still about the brothers. how sam tried and risked everything to save dean but nothing worked. and how dean denied everything his brother was doing because he believed he was pure. how sam starting using the one part of himself that scared him because he needed someone to pay for his pain. dean cared more about sam and his demonizations and how to fix them then he did the angels and their requests. everything has always been about sam and everything has always been about dean. the worst parts of themselves where introduced when the other needed help.

so to watch 15 years of this and be UPSET or CONFUSED about the ending just really gets me. whether your ship was “canon” or not doesn’t matter.

it ended just like it started and if you don’t think so then you watched a completely different show.

#wincest #supernatural #sam loves dean #dean loves sam #spn #15X20

[castiel-has-bees]

How I (a Saileen shipper) sees the main 3 supernatural ships and the people who ship it.

1. Destiel. I'm scared to comment on it. But I can defiantly see it. I feel like a lot of Destiel shippers are pulling 'proof of it' out of thin air (the male siren is used as a popular example, but it was literally explained in the episode that it wasn't romantic). And although Cas' feelings were confirmed, I feel like a lot of fans were very aggressive to people who just didn't ship it. Also, a some people that ship it just kinda ignore Sam or just see him as a mindless shipper.

2. Wincest. Again, scared. I defiantly see a lot of problems with it, but I can also see why people ship it. My biggest complaint (besides the fact that it's incest, but I'm not going to talk about that) is that they've never showed any sort of attraction to each other. I feel like a lot of fans (just like Destiel shippers) pull "proof" that just doesn't make sense, or that isn't really there. Also I feel like a lot of people that ship it hate Castiel for "getting in the way" of their ship, and claim that the only characters that matter are Sam and Dean, when in reality it isn't true.

3. Sastiel. Ok I know this one isn't as popular, but I still felt like I should include it. My biggest complaint is that a LOT of people that ship it hate Dean. Yes, it is ok to hate or dislike a fictional charecter, but what isn't ok is attacking people for liking said charecter (there are exceptions, like if the chracter is cannonally a REALLY bad person). I've seen a lot of Sastiel shippers hate on Dean cosplayers for no reason. Also their reasons for hating Dean are usually really weak, and not cannon. Also I just personally don't see it, but that's just my opinion.

*please don't hate on me, this is just my personal opinion, and if you hate on me, well tbh you're kinda proving my point*

#sam winchester #dean winchester #castiel #jack kline #cas #cass #winchester brothers #wincest #sam and dean #supernatural #spn #spn ships #sastiel #samcas #destiel #deancas #anti destiel #anti w*ncest #anti sastiel #pro ship safe

[nancylou444]

Hellers being scared of interacting with content from a wincest shipper or an adjacent in case they suddenly might start shipping wincest (or start liking brother scenes) out of nowhere, are on the same level as deeply homophobic people being afraid of having their coffee served at Starbucks by a gay employee in case they themselves suddenly become gay.

Exactly, my darling. 

They might become CONTAMINATED by wincest thoughts.  Seems like they already have, with all their bitching about the finale. 😉

#wincest #for the win #Anonymous

[literaphobe]

Destiel shippers celebrated last week, Wincest shippers celebrate today.

NOOOOOO I TAKE IT BACK I TAKE IT ALL BACK DESTIEL SHIPPERS COME BACK I’M SCARED 

#ask #HHHHHHHHHHH #the fact that part of the reason why the show was hesitant about canon destiel is because #they didn't want to upset. wincest fans #im done hdfjsfhdsj #yes omg destiel is so fucking good taste! #can wincest die out already #Anonymous