#thor: ragnarok mention

[what-do-1000-swords-look-like]

I've discussed before the similarities between President Alma Coin in The Hunger Games trilogy and Daenerys Targaryen, but I saw these two films in the past week and these two villains share even more similarities (where they are overt and not hiding the violence they're willing to commit to get what they want):

The Chronicles of Riddick:

The Lord Marshall tells them to convert/bow or die.

"Join him or join me." Him being the guy he's just killed.

*nearly everyone bows*

"He's not a man. He's the holy Half Dead who has seen the Underverse."

Thor: Ragnarok

"It's come to my attention that you don't know who I am. I am Hela, Odin's first born, commander of the Legions of Asgard, the rightful heir to the throne, and a goddess of death."

"My father is dead, as are the princes, you're welcome. We were once the seat of absolute power in the cosmos, our supremacy was unchallenged, yet Odin stopped at nine realms. Our destiny is to rule over all others and I am here to restore that power. Kneel before me and rise into the ranks of my great conquest."

"I thought you'd be happy to see me."

Since they won't kneel and are intent on fighting her, she kills them all.

Now, looking at these two different scenes with two different characters in two different universes, what do they have in common (besides having Karl Urban in both films)?

A villain that has some sort of magical/otherworldly ability that gives them an edge over the common person. They have used that ability and the belief of others around them (as well as belief in their own grandeur) to launch themselves into iconic status, someone/something above all others, and strike down anyone who opposes/questions them. Spreading their rhetoric (forcefully) that encourages a togetherness/joining but that would help each villain attain their actual goal: pure conquest and absolute power.

Sound familiar?

"I offer you a choice. Bend the knee and join me. Together, we will leave the world a better place than we found it. Or refuse and die."

"I am the Last Targaryen, Jon Snow."

*when the people are crying out to the Lannisters to save them from her*

*when the people don't immediately greet her with love, she has her dragons fly overhead to scare the Northerners*

While there are plenty of examples of the foreshadowing present since season 1, how can anyone who is still in denial that Dany was going to go dark no matter when this show ended or how it ended, look at the two examples above and not see the similarities in setting up similar villainous characters within a story?

Showverse!Daenerys was always set up to be the true villain.

This is how that particular shade of tyrants work. (and this is why Emilia studied Hitler's speeches before that scene)

#dark!daenerys #dark!dany #dark!danyposts #got #game of thrones #gotposts #lord marshal mention #chronicles of riddick mention #hela mention #thor: ragnarok mention

[roguerambles]

Top 5 Hottest Record of Ragnarök Characters

Because @rukia-writes has a gun to the back of my head 😭

(Also tagging @icy-spicy and anyone who wants to show off their list, because it's fun)

In no particular order because come on, be reasonable--

Shiva

Where to start? The smirk, the voice, the arms, the flexibility, Shiva is sex on legs and he knows it, and so do we, let's be honest--

2. Raiden

This man could break me in half with one arm, and that's really hot, I will not be accepting questions at this time--

3. Leonidas

LISTEN, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHO I WILL BECOME WHEN THIS MAN GETS ANIMATED, HE'S ALREADY GOT ME IN A VICE GRIP AND I WANT MORE.

4. Buddha

Look, Buddha knows he's hot, we all know he's hot, let's all just agree Buddha is really, really hot--

5. Thor

The man is somehow giving off "extremely sexy" and "extremely terrifying" energy in perfect balance, and that needs to be admired.

#record of ragnarok #shumatsu no valkyrie #honorary mentions to Heracles Hades Aphrodite and Brunhilde they are definitely in my top 10 #ror shiva #ror raiden #ror thor #ror buddha #ror leonidas

[nostalgia-tblr]

one problem with getting into Fiction Franchises like, oh let's say the MCU, long after they started is that 1) there are things that refer back to things I don't know about and 2) i don't know what i don't know about, and in a way that latter is more of a problem at least for me.

i managed an episode of wandavision and was left thinking "this seems like it's good, but i have no clue what's going on here so it's not going to work for me is it?" and i am reliably told it's supposed to be Mysterious Mindfuckery but i, a noob, was unable to work out without external clarification what i wasn't supposed to know. if you see what i mean.

i notice the mcu movies (at least as it progresses?) don't have numbers on them, and we know when they're direct sequels because there's a subtitle. and if you come at these later you need to get a chart to work out whether you should watch thor: ragnarok before or after thor: the dark world. which is easily done if i am determined to get things in the right order, but any effort is too much for someone.

so while i am willing to consider the idea that the later mcu films/shows are just Less Good than the early ones (personally Doubt so far but I'm not opposed to the idea) it's very easy inside a fandom to lose sight of what your thing looks like to the casuals who make up most of an audience, and frankly the mcu is currently Very Large and confusing.

who are all these Mrs/Captain/Miss/etc Marvel ladies and which of them have already been in films I might or might not have seen? how many ant men are there prior to this one? am i supposed to know who the baddy in this or that film is? which of these side-characters are from something else?

doesn't-seem-related-but-it-is: i was surprised to discover that the general mcu fandom view of the loki series was not that it was some sort of AU situation that could be thought of an entirely separate from the main series of films. because that was pretty much why it was the one to hook me, i think - it explained the relevant backstory with clips and yet also this is a different loki so if i don't want to go and watch however many films he was in i don't have to. i would expect him to be to some extent "out of character" because it carefully explained to me that this is not really the same character as that identical guy with the same name who was in some number of films. there's a woman one and an alligator one but don't worry they're all from AUs anyway.

#that said i did actually assume the alligator was from a comic or somesuch thing #because richard e grant is CLEARLY wearing a comics costume of some sort despite me knowing nothing about comics #but it felt like if i didn't know that it'd be okay cos they're from some Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence thing anyway! #anyway it's very easy to discount the Noob Experience with anything but for older ongoing stories it's crucial to their future #for ex: i didn't know what an infinity stone was but i did get that they were A Big Deal and that the TVA had a silly number of them #idk how that scene worked if you did know but for me it was the right level of 'referring to a previous story' #and i have in the past year-and-a-bit come to terms with the fact that Proper Loki is not an alligator in ANY of the movies :( #thor ragnarok's also pretty noob-friendly from what i recall though it didnt lead to me looking into the rest of the marvelverse back then #hottest take: the problem facing tumblr loki fandom currently is that the newer things are NOT actually completely terrible #so they did bring in a newer audience who didn't know the older material and certainly didn't know The Tumblr Consensus on things #and as mentioned half of them came in via an AU so our perspective was different from the start #and then OH NO DISAGREEMENT AND CONFLICT ENSUES!!!!!! #mcu tag i guess

[secretswansong]

Heimdall definitely doesn't get drunk and his brothers probably initially reacted like this

Tyr: There have been rumors going around that you've been abstaining from drink Heimdall: Yeah well they're lies okay 'cause I love drinking, it's delicious, I'm ~drunk~ right now Thor: Ah sure look at him he can't even slur his words

#incorrect god of war ragnarok #alcohol mention #heimdall god of war #tyr god of war #thor god of war #god of war ragnarok #memes #foil arms and hog

[incorrectdotlquotes]

Thistle @ Meg during the hiatus

#dotl #daughter of the lilies #dotl spoilers #kinda #general memes #general edits #edits #memes #thor ragnarok #loki #thistle #author mention #meg

[magnusmodig]

||. an assortment of thoughts + headcanons concerning thor + previous relationships / his mentality surrounding ... being that one Resident Super Hot Guy :tm:

(none of these are fully fleshed out into words past these excerpts from my chats w a pal on discord... mostly, I just want to put them on the blog for later reckoning)

a. He was originally set to be betrothed to Lady Sif, though this was never really enforced or official so much as it was implied for as long as they've known each other. He'd have actually happily gone through with this if he hadn't met Jane??? but that's obvsly not what happened. He loves Jane and he would never choose another, ever.

b. Thor at no point ever expected he'd meet someone he'd fall in love with and trust with his heart, and he also sort of just… resigned himself to the fact that he won't marry for love, and that he WILL need to sire an heir whether he wants to or not (but he's super family coded so ofc he'd want kids of his own. It'd just suck for him a lot if it wasn't with someone he loves. he'd not blame the children for that, though.) / (more on that HERE)

c. Thor wasn't exactly a man-hoe or anything, but he is NOT a virgin in the slightest and lost that long before he met Jane, and this is from a variety of short relationships and the occasional fling… but when I say "short" and "occasional" I really do mean that… I don't think he'd get into relationships unless he felt there might be potential, but those never lasted more than a few days. He only would ever need those few to know if there could be something long-lasting.... (and usually they were done while he was out traveling the realms with the rest of his squad), I don't think he'd do flings and one-night-stands often but uh. Sometimes you really need a distraction and alcohol + s*x just kind of happen to go together in Thor's case bc he's an idiot and very careless with himself when it comes to… not being self-destructive. He'd find someone he okay with indulging, get drunk and have relations… but that said I think he'd always make it a point to treat those women nicely before, during, and especially afterwards, and he never left them high and dry bc that'd break his heart more than anything…. sooooo d. He's (unfortunately) used to being people's eye-candy and just kind of expects it at this point. When he's not perfect in the sense of "can do no wrong" or "a hero that always wins and can never be broken, no matter what comes his way", then it's just "he's so handsome and i boy am i having some Sinful Thoughts abt Prince Blondie over there" and thor just sort of …. He doesn't shrug it off, really. I think it actually makes him really uncomfortable. He just chooses to ignore it. Turn the other cheek, if you will, and give a wide berth and a blind eye, because in his mind there's nothing he can do about it =v=;;; To that end, he won't get terribly mad at anyone who does do express anything inappropriate towards him bc he DOES just expect it to happen. He reasons it away and elects to simply stay disengaged unless some lines are crossed. He does goes out of his way to dress modestly. Long sleeves when he can help it, always wearing some kind of shirt or tunic or armor, long pants (on earth, the most casual items of modern-day clothes he'll keep to are joggers. Never ever shorts.), boots, you name it. The most skin he feels comfortable showing are his arms w the sleeveless shirts but that's also partially out of it being easy to wear and great for training purposes. He actually doesn't like training w/o a shirt as an adult bc he has Learned ™️

e. Thor counts his flaws and ESPECIALLY whenever he sees or notices someone Oggling Him he'll go out of his way to remind himself of what they are. He's got a lazy eye that nobody comments on, his hair is darker than it was when he was a child, he's got callouses on his hands from the weapons he uses, when he was a child he had a gap between his front two teeth, he's got very thin scars from the occasional battle (not many, but they're there), - post!ragnarok there's also the addition of his lost right eye and eventual heterochromia … and he does it just to make a point to himself that he's .... not perfect, and if they can't spare the time to notice it then they're probably creatures to be wary of, in the long run

#( ooc . ) — stories that leap from the page . #( headcanon . ) — glory to the man who toils for his land . may it ever prosper . #(i have...a lot of thoughts about this topic tbch) #(i have thoughts about thor's hair getting cut in ragnarok that relate back to kinda this general vibe) #(i'm always and forever upset that it was played for laughs when really that's pretty traumatic...and violating of his person =4=) #(anyways have some scatterbrained vi thoughts as i turn him over in my head like a rotisserie) #(...bc i cannot :'D do drafts rn my brain won't let me) #harassment cw #(?) #(=4= idk if someone wants me to tag this lmk ig it's not really mentioning it more than surface level-) #('this is sucky behavior that thor is unfortunately used to')

[daisydood]

Ramblings About God of War: Odin addition!

First of all: MY ASKS ARE OPEN!! I'm running out of ideas for character analysis jelp

Note: yeah I know I said I was gonna make Freyas next but I wanna talk about how much I hate him. He sucks so much i hope he dies again all my homies hate Odin he sucks so much you don't even understand

Odin: The top Gaslighter, Gatekeeper, and Girlbosser

Tis' the season to point out the diffrent manipulation tactis odin uses! God, Odin is so horrible. Hes a horrible dad, grandfather, friend, role model, and basically everything ever.

There are few things that motivate villians. The main ones are fame, money, vengence, and power. I think the thing that motivates him is solely power. He wants power over everyone. He claims all he wants is knowledge and vengence, but he just wants power, in my opinon.

For the first time Atrues went to Asgard, Odin excpictly stated he was only in it for the knowledge. But he wants power. As the saying goes, Knowledge equals Power. I know basing this entire character Analysis on one old saying doesnt make much sense, but hear me out here.

Odin loves being on top of the world. He loves having people do anything he wishes. He keeps (or, well, kept) his trusty servant, Heimdall near him at all times. He did, however, manipulate people countless times, which i will get into later. OKAY NOT THE POINT-

My point is; When Odin said that he only wants knowledge, he was telling a half truth. Odin wants knowledge in order to gain power. Because Odin knows so much about everything ever, (or, at least he says he does) people are bound to trust him more. ergo; The knowledge that Odin has equals power over the people who don't know. ...ergo knowledge = power but YOU GET THAT BY NOW.

Each manipulation tactic my least favorite old guy used on his targets

Thor: Odin earned Thors dedication by a very common tactic: Bullying. Hes so unnecessarily mean to Thor, and I think he does this because he can not emotionally manipulate him in his normal tactics, so he just resorts to bullying him like a middle schooler.

Atreus: Promises and flatter. Atreus' entire storyline is wanting answers. And here comes Odin, trying his hardest to convince Atreus that he can have those answers if he just helps him out with translating a mask. But, obviously, he has worse intentions than he claims.

Kratos: Harassment. This is the last tactic that manipulators try to use. Similar to Thors, Odin can't do anything to Kratos. After all the ranting Odin said when he went to Kratos' and Atreus' house all he said was "No," then almost killed his son. So, the only way to get him to do what he wants is physical violence.

Heimdall: literally nothing what happened there he came out the womb worshipping him

Edit: @/pgirl1986 made a really good point about Heimdall !!! Go check it out😱😱

alright folks‼️

That's all I've got for him. I hate him so much. I might add more manipulation tactics later but I think that's it. My asks are open for any thing you want me to analyze about god of war, I might even do some animes 😱😱 okay I think that's it time for tags

#this took hours #oh my god #I'm so done with this #I hate odin #Odin hate club #real tags now #odin #gowr #god of war ragnarok #gow ragnorak #kratos #atreus #I might do attack on titan??? #attack on titan #thor #omg i didnt mention thrud today #freya #heimdall

[fruitcakei]

You're getting high as a kite and going shopping for movie night (and probably the next few weeks), which RoR gods are you taking with you? My personal pick, right at this moment, is Loki and Thor. It'd be kinda fun to drag Odin along just to watch him judge us. I can clearly see Thor just following along in a daze, picking a few random munchy foods and some weird shit like DrPepper beans that he legit thought sounded good

#Record of Ragnarok #shuumatsu no valkyrie #RoR Thor #RoR Loki #Anime x weed #weed #Tw drugs #tw drug mention

[lokiinmediasideblog]

"I Remember it so you don't have to": MCU Loki in the 2010s: Rape Culture, Villain Queer-coding, and Homophobia

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I know Loki is Tumblr’s sweetheart since 2011 (and that subsets of Loki fans are insufferable, fuck those that harassed and singled out Kate Herron and Sophia Di Martino because Sylvie). But a part of me will always be protective of the character outside of Tumblr despite his popularity. I hate seeing bad takes about how Odin was a wonderful father and king, and Loki was just an ungrateful bastard.

Although Tumblr (and many AO3 fics) seem to excuse Loki of all wrongdoings (letting the Frost Giants in and the attempted genocide), I see the opposite outside of it, where he even gets blamed for Hela getting out of her imprisonment. And I have seen a horrible take saying that he should have been left to die as a baby because “he ruined Thor’s life” by some Odin apologist that clearly lied about liking Loki. So he seems to be quite polarizing in that respect based on social media of choice and demographic of users. And some people get a little weird about the Loki hate because how dare you like the sympathetic villain that isn't as masculine as the heroes (I will go more in detail and show some examples).

My hot take on Loki's moral fibre: I just see MCU!Loki as not particularly morally worse (or better) than MCU!Thor, but he just had worse luck in timing and who he ended up with during those badly-timed breakdowns.

I joke around that I defend Loki from Redditors and dudebros because I especially dislike the takes of cishet men that get offended when a girl said she preferred Loki over Thor, and pretend to be “concerned” over “impressionable young women and girls that will get into abusive relationships”. And if you haven’t seen those, well I did while growing up, and I took them personally.

The Nostalgia Critic, one of the men behind the death of media literacy and criticism, even made a video complaining about the phenomenon of Loki thirst. It made me spitefully not care about any other Avengers (2012) character. It’s still up on YouTube, and it was a bit patronizing. Also, he thinks Thor 1 Thor looks like a girl (joke?), make of that what you will...

There was also a propensity to make homophobic jokes about Loki in parody skits. Loki was not canonically queer yet in either the movies or the comics, but he was queer-coded and people could tell, based on the jokes and quips directed at him. There’s one parody skit where Thor and Loki go to court-appointed therapy and one of the jokes is that Loki likes to fuck himself with bananas or “plantains because they’re bigger.” One of the worst parody skits was The Key of Awesome’s Thor:TDW parody.

Loki is put into a “normal” prison instead of the “glowy” kind he kept escaping from. The main joke was Loki getting raped in prison. And that now he can’t act all “haughty” about Thor’s request for help, and is instead the "desperate" one. And you’ll see some old comments over how hilarious that is. And people arguing about how weak or powerful Loki is and bringing the Norse myth about him being raped by a horse into it as proof that the terrible “joke” makes sense and could happen in cannon.

An example that almost made it into the screen is a deleted scene in Thor Ragnarok that I refer to as “the director’s barely disguised fetish”, where instead of falling for 30 minutes, Loki gets locked in a portable restroom while men continuously enter to piss. Loki’s trying his best not to get pissed on. Thor opens the stall giggling, and of course Loki is rightfully angry about being trapped there. It seems to veer into the “bad guys deserve sexual assault as punishment” to an uncomfortable degree.

I often just keep quiet on MCU Loki defense discourse because:

1. Loki is a popular character with many defenders.

2. Subsets of Loki fans are ridiculous and use false pretenses to harass writers and actors. And the discourse that arises from this is mind-numbing and pointless.

But I remember all this crap from the early 2010s, and I am not fond of Loki being deemed "Just evil, whiny, and ungrateful". There’s also the very questionable tropes from earlier Thor comics (hell some of these should ellicit WAY more backlash than Sylki if you really care that much about rep). I also don’t like being told what characters I should and shouldn’t like, and I have taken that personally ever since.

A part of me feels a bit unintentionally gaslighted when people act like there was no backlash to Loki being popular. It has the same vibes as the increduloulity of Gen Z regarding how BAD homophobia in the 2000s and early 2010s was.

#mcu!loki #thor ragnarok #anti nostalgia critic #anti the key of awesome #cw: rape joke mention #cw: homophobia #queercoding #Youtube #hot take

[worstloki]

You guys were upset loki wasn't mentioned by thor in Endgame. And u dont like the back tattoo thor has? At least taika used his brain unlike the russos

Anon I need you to know that someone can simply not like any of it and that’s okay. Also not very nice of you to compare the two people like that, or say that one used his brain while another didn’t. The collective “you guys” made a feel really important though!!! So I forgive you!!!!!

#the REASONS anon #you need to look at the REASONS #Thor not mentioning Loki properly on endgame would make their brotherhood seem like less #and Thor’s back tattoo does the same thing more ostentatiously by it being an eh kinda tattoo #like it doesn’t actually show that Loki meant a lot to Thor #comes off as a gag #and I very much could argue in favour of infinity war over ragnarok so don’t tempt me into devil’s advocate #it’s all opinions my dude #I’m no longer upset over this stuff nor was to begin with for some of these #Thor 4 #opinions !

[tripleyeeet]

for the blogger ask: what’s your favorite MCU film?

if spider-verse shared the same mcu continuity i'd pick that one but alas.

instead, i without a doubt gotta go with winter soldier. that was when the mcu was at it's peak, i think, because it was the kind of film that was fun and simple and didn't take itself too seriously. it was exactly what you expected from it and because of that it delivered a decent story, amazing fight choreography, and actual character chemistry unlike some of the mcu's most recent projects. :')

#honorable mentions go to: #thor: ragnarok #the first gotg #and literally any spider-man iteration except for toby's third one

[shot-in-the-sky]

Sooo is Korgs Mum trans or is Korgs Dad trans? because in order for cannon to stay in line, one of those statements has got to be true.

#marvel mcu #thor love and thunder spoilers #thor love and thunder #Thor #thor spoilers #korg #taika waititi #or maybe taika just forgot he mentioned Korgs mum in ragnarok #who is to say #thor 4 #trans

[secretswansong]

Thor: *holds up a water bottle* I found THIS in your room Mimir: Aw for Odin's sake, a bottle of water Heimdall? Heimdall: I was holding it for a friend! Thor: *holds up an entire case of water bottles* I found THESE under his bed Heimdall: It's not mine! IT'S NOT MINE! Mimir: It's not yours? Really? The evidence is overwhelming Heimdall: *to Magni* Admit it Magni! Admit it! Thor: He's never drank anything that's not a protein shake or a pint

#incorrect god of war ragnarok #heimdall #mimir #tyr #thor #foil arms and hog #alcohol mention #memes #changed tyr to mimir because i just realized it would be more fitting

[magnusmodig]

||. you know what no i'm on my music shit again. remember when thor had a whole (2) themes in each of his films? remember when in the first film patrick doyle represented thor's love for his family and country through "sons of odin" and thor's love for earth and jane through "science and magic"? Remember in Dark World when his themes surrounded Thor's growth as a leader and warrior ("Thor, Son of Odin") and his role as King ("Asgard") ? Remember how those tracks bled into each other the way that Thor's identity and his duty were starting to? (which would make perfect sense with the original ending being Thor being corralled back into being King at all costs??? definitelyodin'sidea —and even makes sense with the rewrite ending of "i would rather be a good man than a great king" never realizing he already is both)

because you know what i sure do

#(so anyways i'm feeling testy today) #( ooc . ) — stories that leap from the page . #(i'd tag as salt but i didn't mention that gagnarok only gave him one theme and technically it's not even /his/) #(it's the “thor ragnarok” theme for the entire movie) #(which dark world also does but the “thor the dark world” track is specifically a mix of asgard/thor son of odin) #(...SO HAVE I MENTIONED I'M ON MY MUSIC SHIT AGAIN AND FEELING TESTY)

[theodore-sallis]

“The Demon Plague!” Fear (Vol. 1/1970), #14.

Writer: Steve Gerber; Penciler: Val Mayerik; Inker: Chic Stone; Colorist: Stan Goldberg; Letterer: Artie Simek

#Marvel #Marvel comics #Marvel 616 #Fear #Mam-Thing #Ted Sallis #Jennifer Kale #Uh-oh! All slime! #I told y’all that the gator from earlier was foreshadowing hahaha #also have I mentioned that I’ve come to the conclusion that Thor: Ragnarok’s filmmakers were /totally/ referencing this specific issue #with their Man-Thing cameo??? what other explanation could there be???? hahaha #also I just love how quickly they conclude ‘oh shoot she right! he doesn’t conform to the known laws of the universe! #get that beast out of here.’

[our-blood-is-our-ink]

Hi yes Thor love and thunder completely blows Ragnarok out of the water I lied the last marvel show/movie ill be consuming isn't house of harkness it's whenever the last Thor movie comes out

#thor love and thunder #thor #thor odinson #thor friggason #thor ragnarok #house of harkness #mention