#want to talk about tgcf

[xinilia]

the great thing about hua cheng’s devotion is I straight up cannot get enough of it. I will reread fics hundreds of times just to hear him describe the sheer depth of the adoration he feels for xie lian. it’s therapeutic to hear about how much love someone can be capable of

#call me xie lian I guess #I just want to sit there and listen to him talk about all the things he’s done and will do for his highness #like for hours #please bro there’s a reason why the cave of ten thousand gods is my favorite part of the entire series #tgcf #hua cheng #hualian #bruh #heaven official’s blessing

[mo49ko]

（fengqing)

when fengqing start dating and they hang out with other ppl, fx will simply not shut up about mq!! they'd be talking about something and suddenly it reminds him of mq. except about every topic ever bc hes the most down bad ever for his own boyfriend

mq looking at fx: 🙂 hehe (<- full of love) fx:⁉️

(jp ver. on poipiku)

#moko art #fengqing #tgcf #its so important to me that theyre the MOST annoying couple EVER #wont stop talking about each other when they hate each other wont stop talking about each other when they date #what do they want from us #also its been 2 months since i was last sick u know what that means 🤟 (im sick again)

[average-hua-cheng-fan]

another reason i think that xie lian felt an instant connection on the ox cart is because he and hua cheng both grew up in xianle.

there are maybe 4 people still alive that grew up in that culture. based on my own experience, you can pick up on things like accent, cadence, references, and humor that suggest a person is from the same place as you without consciously noticing it. that sense of comfort and similarity probably played into their instant chemistry.

#thinking about how they are bonded together by being the only people who remember their dead culture... augh it kind of makes me want to cr #as much fighting as fengqing do they are really the only people who will EVER understand each other's childhoods #which. aughhhh #there's a lovely modern au fic by heavensturtle called ''i'm just there to admire you.'' where they talk about chinese diaspora go read it #fics that mention paradise manor being in the xianle style also make me want to bawl. especially when fxmq notice it #other people that remember xianle: qi rong. jun wu. mei nianqing. yeah. none of those people are easy to talk to #buried deep in the xianle quartets heads are things like xianxia silly bands and xianxia nickelodeon and xianxia hi chew that LITERALLY #NOBODY ELSE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD REMEMBERS. DOES THAT NOT MAKE YOU FEEL INSANE #the immortality in tgcf and how it affects memory and sense of self and relationships. ourgh #i speak #tgcf meta #tgcf #tgcf spoilers #i guess? #tian guan ci fu #tgcf books #heaven official's blessing #hob #xie lian #hua cheng #hualian #feng xin #mu qing #fengqing #xianle trio #xianle quartet

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

you cannot tease wei wuxian and hua cheng hunting for funsies and not show that to us??? it has to go one of two ways right? either an absolute visious blood bath where everyone cowers in fear or the equivalent of a teenage girl's slumber party. both??? both.

Hunting each other for sport is the keystone to a fun slumber party

#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #tgcf #wei wuxian #hua cheng #I was so happy to get this ask because it have me the perfect segue to show these two being silly together #This comic also kicked my ass while trying to draw it....I have learned a lot while gasping for breath outside of my comfort zone #action scenes are hard....help I don't want to look at this ever again..... #But yes. These two would have a lovely time being *silly* ^_^ together (actually winding up for a sparing match). #Then go right back to being very casual and chill. They have lots in common! #Both of them love to fight and would be thrilled to have a partner for it. Then talk about paint mixtures. #How long LWJ and XL take with their cooking classes is up for interpretation. But these two are frolicking the entire time #Everyone loves being hunted and hunting. That's what tag is all about. This is just tag with swords. #I hope everyone enjoys looking at HC's bare feet. He puts those cold puppies on Xie Lian every night.

[mxtxfanatic]

Fandom Gripe #23: I know that fandom is in some deep denial about its treatment of female characters that are canonically involved with fan favorite m/m ships, but do y’all realize that when you disappear female characters from the narrative wholesale to push the idea that your canonically straight fav was “secretly gay all along!” you’re making several bad implications? That 1) bi men don’t exist, 2) bi men do exist, but those who have genuinely loved a woman before cannot genuinely love a man after that (therefore bi men don’t exist in practice), 3) women cannot inspire genuine love and devotion in men, therefore any relationship with a woman is “lesser” than the one they later have a man (see previous parenthesis), or 4) to acknowledge the existence of a lovable woman who isn’t a terrible person, where if a relationship previously existed, it did not end because of “incompatibility,” is enough to destabilize the present relationship between two queer men?

Because why is the tgcf fandom allergic to acknowledging that He Xuan had a whole ass fiancée that he loved? Why does no one ever seem to remember that the kidnappings and murders of He Xuan’s sister and fiancée were the final straws that sent him on his rampage, and he still keeps a shrine to them in the present-day of the story? Why is her entire existence and significance to He Xuan as a man, character, and to his character arc disappeared in favor of pushing Shi Qingxuan—the brother of the man responsible for his fiancée’s death—into that same role, as if to say that her impact on He Xuan is significant... just not when it's from her? Why does He Xuan’s life in fandom essentially begin not just after her death but because of it?

#tgcf #human gripes at fandom #anyways these are rhetorical questions because I already know the answer #i just absolutely hate it #why do y’all hate female characters so badly 😭 #especially when they ‘get in the way’ of m/m ships? #mxtx shows that woman more respect in the book than fandom does outside of it #and she didn’t even give that character a name! #simply embarrassing #i could have also talked about jgy here #but let’s be real: that man never loved qin su (or anyone) #so i did not want to include him when discussing people who are *actually* capable of unconditionally loving others #but anyways #mdzs fandom sure loves to either disappear qin su #or act as if she’s the one responsible for why their precious ‘meng yao’ can’t just hop into bed with his bros #you know? the one he killed and the one he used as an accomplice in his murder? those bros? that he so obviously loved with sincerity? #at least moreso than he could ever love a *woman* amiright? #(for legal purposes that last tag was a joke) #i also really hate the implication that he xuan had no life before shi wudu ruined it #that in fact shi wudu made his life 'better' by tying him to shi qingxuan #the romanticization of shi wudu's actions to make way for a ship is... a Choice

[nibbelraz]

I need all three of them in a room and to talk so BADLY

#svsss #tgcf #mdzs #shen Qingqiu #wei wuxian #wei ying #xie lian #heavens official blessing #scum villains self saving system #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #i just want them to talk about all the insane shit they've been going through #i need them to also gush about there husbands #i need them to bond and be friends #nibbelraz #my art

[arohuacheng]

what people don't get about hualian is that they're literally like. jock and alternative art student. xie lian lives like a frat boy (mattress on the floor and nothing else in his room, no standards for his own well-being, can't cook and ends up eating what could be classified as biohazards) and is really enthusiastic about fighting as a hobby. meanwhile hua cheng rocks up to the function in his cunty little outfits every day of the week, bells on his boots and the red eyeliner slayed, obviously has taste but is soooo in love with his boyfriend who only ever wears cargo shorts and the most fucked up questionable hoodies you've ever seen. hua cheng wants xie lian to have nice things but it's always like. "babe i promise it's no trouble can we please get you a bedframe??" nd xie lian is obviously so enamored with his cool alt boyfriend who wears skirts sometimes and never misses a beat on a bitchy comment that's just the way it is. basically if your hualian concept doesn't have hua cheng as the hot goth gf you just don't get it

#talking #tgcf #look i am so passionate about this. mxtx wants you to think they're big strong guy (hc) and damsel in distress (xl) but they're fr not #hualian is the couple you see at a fast food restaurant where a goth girl is sitting across from some random dude twirling her hair #going 'babe you're SO funny!' nd the guy is just talking really enthusiastically about the olympics segment he watched last night #but is obviously really happy to be telling her about it? and for her to be genuinely interested??? and they're obviously happy together? #my point. is that they're mismatched but NOT in the way that people tend to talk about them. #they're in love and they're best friends and hua cheng is putting their hands together going 'whoa your hands are SO big..." #you get what i mean. not enough focus on hua cheng as a campy gay person and xie lian as a guy who owns one outfit #they ARE overdressed gf and very normal bf. you know this in your heart. [ pointing a gun at you ] #hua cheng #xie lian #tian guan ci fu #mxtx

[hualianisms]

the way HC grew up thinking he was weak, monstrous, repulsive, was told that he was cursed, and believed that he had to spend 800 years becoming better, stronger, more powerful, for XL, bc he wanted to protect XL -

but then he meets XL again, and shortly after becoming friends, XL tells HC that he doesn't care if HC is hideous, doesn't care if HC is a beggar or royalty, a ghost or human. later on, XL even tells HC that he doesn't care if HC is strong or weak, at his lowest or highest point, in worst or best moments - XL loves HC no matter what state HC may be in, he loves him simply bc he is HC.

and this unconditional love from XL is so important to HC, so healing for HC, and is exactly why it shaped HC so inexorably, both 800 years ago and 800 years later. bc XL truly is the kind of person who loves someone for who they are, not how they appear on the outside.

and HC fully reciprocates this unconditional love by loving XL no matter if XL is the god-pleasing crown prince or the broken husk of a man wearing bwx's mask trying to take revenge. HC returns this unconditional love by repeating XL's words back to him, what matters is you, not the state of you.

#hualian #my meta #i've talked about this before but it just hit me all over again #the puqi shrine sleepover and the campfire convo and when xl says 'you can't be strong every moment of everyday' #are the same in essence #the way HC chose to give XL his ashes specifically after XL tells him he really does want to see HC's real appearance and doesn't care even #if it's hideous or monstrous #XL being the one who says 'what matters is you not the state of you' #XL truly being the kind of person who doesn't care about all these things!! he only cares that HC is HC!! he loves HC bc it's HC!! #anyway. the thesis of hualian is 'what matters is you not the state of you' #aka unconditional love!!! #mp: tgcf

[yeyayeya]

Will forever be mad that MXTX dropped the fact that Hua Cheng had a female form and refused to elaborate

#yeyarants #tgcf #tian guan ci fu #heaven official's blessing #hua cheng #mxtx tgcf #mxtx #mo xiang tong xiu #like hello?? #why would you drop that and not elaborate?? #mxtx my girl #why??? #I knew he had something going on with gender I just knew it #not in a bad way tho #I will always think about this #I’m not sure if hua cheng’s introduction got changed in the revised version #in the very beginning where the other gods are talking about the myths of hua cheng #and what his true form actually is #like why would you not elaborate on that #if it got deleted I’m going to be mad #I will forever think about Hua Cheng’s female form #I WANT TO KNOW THE BACKSTORY OF IT #is it because he missed his mother #if so I’m gonna cry #he is a shapeshifter #ok but imagine the shenanigans of it #I can easily imagine Hua Cheng dragging HX to transform so they could fool and trick people #I WANT TO KNOW MORE UGH #tgcf hua cheng #hua cheng’s female form is my Roman Empire

[mewtwo24]

Something about Hua Cheng's expression here is killing me--I know this is supposed to be a delicate moment of reassurance but the pure hater energy radiating off of him is just immaculate

#tgcf #hua cheng #xie lian #hualian #words cannot express how much I love hua cheng being a hater #hua cheng in this pic is that energy when you keep spamming the A button when an npc you don't like won't stop talking #like his face when lang qianqiu keeps going on and on about his parents meeting an untimely unjust and grisly end #is so 'it was hundreds of years ago and it wasn't even gege's fault for fucks sake grow up' #'leave my goddamn wife alone he raised you with love and diligence' #'you had your bloody revenge what more do you want. figure it out far away from us.' #spoken like a true ghost king who slaps eming every single time it expresses a single inconvenient emotion he has #every day i have to resist the urge to gush about hc he's just hilarious and peak every single time i love him #no notes just banger after banger after banger #that's the face of a man who was orphaned as a child and clawed his way through life to survive and keep his loved one alive + well #a bastion of unmoving strength for 800 years #unmoved by the whining of a young man born with everything and mourning the loss of his innocence way past his expiration date #10/10 hua cheng you've done it again #hc said 'oh? a traumatic life event? we have several dozens of those git gud' #and honestly i mean that with no malice i just feel like lang qianqiu is old enough to start parsing the world in a more nuanced way ;;;;; #as much as xl thought lying to him was the best outcome hc was right--the truth d o e s matter--and not just to absolve xl #its also about giving lang qianqiu closure and moving on. about qi rong facing the consequences of his actions #so much of what is wrong with the heavenly court is the obsession with maintaining appearances over being sincere #and so much of what hc adores about xl is that xl was never really interested in those empty words and empty sentiments #he truly wanted people to prosper and live well no matter the cost to himself

[citronverveine]

do you ever think about hua cheng carving the statues

hua cheng's statues are like. the only form of comfort he could have in tong'lu. the only distraction. the only way to physically touch his god. the only way to pray to him. the only way to see him. the only way to not feel alone. the only way to bring his memories to life. the only way to make sure he would never forget his face.

the statues were a hobby, something to pass time, something to get his mind off his daily life of killing and surviving, something to ground himself, to memorize the shape of his god again and again, to catalogue every facets of him, to surround himself with what saved him everytime. the statues were reminders. prayers. offerings. memories.

it's said the first statues were really not well-done. it's said some of the art on the walls was done as if the artist was in a trance and in great suffering. imagine hua cheng carving the stone incessantly in the dark. longing to depict him perfectly. to honor him and to feel him. to see him. imagine him racking up every single memory he had of xie lian and etching it into stone to make it as permanent as his faith. imagine him talking to them. praying. crying. promising that he'll find him, that he'll do his best, that he'll be the best for him.

but the statues are cold and still and never talk back. and in the end he's alone. in the dark. with his memories of the one that taught him love quiet like the deads around him. and he doesn't know what happened to the real, flesh and blood xie lian and he won't know until he gets out of there

#i'm in my hua cheng feels today #took a walk and almost imploded in public at the thought of him #i wanna squeeze him like a watermelon #anyway thank you to the person who reblogged my post yesterday where i said i wanted to talk about this #putting my thoughts down is hard so i'll do sporadic posts like this #tgcf #hua cheng #mxtx tgcf #mxtx #hualian #tgcf thoughts #tgcf meta #tgcf novel #heaven officials blessing #heaven official's blessing #mine

[moodyseal]

I love fics where Hua Cheng's inner monologue is basically "Oh wow gege just paid attention to me. I'm going to bang my head against the wall" because honestly that's what I imagine TGCF would sound like from his point of view

#also when he talks about xie lian with he xuan #and he xuan obviously want to throttle him so bad #OR OR OR when he's acting like a menace but then xie lian talks to him and he immediately switches like '🥰💕✨😚😇' #he's so real #and yea sure he killed some people but it is what it is yk #xie lian #hua cheng #tgcf #tian guan ci fu #heaven official's blessing #lonely thoughts

[fortune-maiden]

Thinking about An Le again and all the potential everything with him...

Lang Qianqiu's best friend who befriended him specifically as part of a rebellion plot

Mentored by Qi Rong, and was probably pretty close to him (QR seems to have been around since before XL became LQQ's mentor so it sounds like QR practically raised him since he was a kid)

HIS DEATH WAS ACTUALLY REALLY BRUTAL (deserved but yikes!)

Still really want to know what his dynamic with QR was like. Did QR feel anything about his death...

Was he seen as a champion of the Xianle people? We know how pure and heroic LQQ is, so I feel like An Le would have had to outwardly be like that too for them to be close friends

Was LQQ there for his death or did he learn of it later... (probably the latter because he had no idea An Le hated him and I doubt that's something An Le would conceal on his death bed. He's dying, may as well stick the knife into his bestie as deep as it will go!)

Anyway it is just thinking about An Le hours and I really hope the donghua expands on him a little the way it did for Pei Xiu & Banyue's backstory before

#especially considering that in the revision......... #the donghua is really our only hope for additional an le context >.< #tgcf #spoilers #an le (tgcf) #qi rong #lang qianqiu #i'm also thinking about my fangxin guoshi au some more and with all this talk of rebellion #i can't help wanting to include an additional member on team qi rong #who is this au is responsible for stirring up the banyue mess as a trap for pei xiu #and could potentially pose as a xianle noble that an le is close to (and his mansion is where the ghosts and evil spirits secretly meet) #and generally acting as qi rong's face in public citing his refinement and brains (despite being just as vulgar as qr 99% of the time) #random tgcf thoughts #listen i am adopting all of the cut characters! if mxtx doesn't want them I do!

[myheartismadeofstars]

Anyone want to be MXTX novel buddies with me? 🥺

I want to talk about the Blorbos from my Books!

SVSSS is probably my favourite one but I am fixating on TGCF currently (annoying because I don't have any HOB books except for the first one, maybe I'll go buy a couple this month. Even if I wanted to read it online the only translations are extremely bad... which I totally understand, because why not support the author! But I don't always have the money to buy them, I've read the others though!)

My Ships:

SV: Bingqiu, Binggeyuan, Bing2qiu (poly with bingge), Moshang, Qijiu, NingFan

MDZS: Wangxian, WangNingXian, SangCheng, QinYao (but not as siblings), NieQing, Xuanli, XueQing, songxiao

TGCF: based on what I have read, spoilers (sought out on my own) and fanfics: Hualian, Fengqing, Quanyin, and Pei Su x Ban Yue. (Since I know how popular it is, I should mention it: I don't ship B. e. e. f. l. e. a. f. i understand why someone might, but I prefer them as tragic friends. I can't see SQX forgiving HX in canon. I can see HX realizing that he missed SQX and wanted to be friends again, but it's too late. Even in an AU I've been concocting, I don't see them romantically. At MOST I could see them as Platonic Soulmates, similar to the way I see Mu Qing and Xie Lian.)

#tgcf #hualian #wangxian #tian guan ci fu #heaven's official blessing #mdzs #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #scum villian self saving system #svsss #Bingqiu #moshang #Fengqing #mxtx #mxtx novels #i would love to have friends who want to talk about mxtx novels

[catradoraism]

i need hua cheng pov bc what exactly was going thru his mind to make him not realise that this is the most romantic confession anyone has ever given

#edit: as many ppl have pointed out yes it’s the self loathing #hualian #‘wow. his highness is so kind to say this i’m so glad we are friends’ #LIKE WHAT IS HIS RATIONALISATION #rip xie lian. he said he was envious of hua cheng’s beloved not once but Twice #and hua cheng did not get that at all #THINK BITCH THINK #the dot dot dot before xie lian settled for admire to describe his feelings dbnffjf gay ass #every time i think of this scene i think of that one post that was like #‘when people write about love they always talk about being passively loved and understood’ #‘but xie lian here is expressing the active desire to love and understand hua cheng. wanting to be a safe space for him.’ #‘you are safe with me. even the rotten parts of urself u want to hide away’ #op of that post. mwah. so big brained #tgcf #tian guan ci fu #heaven official’s blessing

[breadandblankets]

i have the same feeling re "pit madness" as i do yiling patriarch/corruption things from mdzs in that i think robbing characters of agency in order to make a "quick fix" or excuse away a characters actions is kinda lame and over blown by fandom

i don't think im saying anything original here but especially in the case of jason the whole "stop killing and repent and we will help you expunge your demons" thing like what are you catholic?

the devil made me do it is boring

#bread really doesn't want to level catholisism accusations at mdzs fandom not only are they crazy but i have not read the book lmao #sorry this is a svsss/tgcf household #but i have read enough nmj long fic to have opinions about corruption #the problems aren't demons the problems are trauma #batfam #bread talk #jason todd #jason feelings 24/7 in this breadbox