#//there's a lot of salt

[phantom-of-the-keurig]

“Unmmmm there’s NO evidence Kamino CULLED clones who were different that would be MEAN and no clones were decommissioned it doesn’t exist!!”

Begging y’all to think before you speak please 😭 these are direct screenshots from the canon wiki, and I even have the actual source book where these come from

#I don’t like a lot of the popular fanon either BUT DEAR GOD DO SOME RESEARCH FIRST PLEASE #be ffr #sw salt #clone troopers #clones #sw tcw #star wars canon #I’m very very petty about what is current canon and what isn’t so don’t @ me lol #smooth brained individuals do not interact

[pinkravat-art]

so funny that multiple audio drama podcasts have creepy eye motifs because OH NO. NOT THE CONCEPT OF VISION IN MY AUDIO ONLY FICTION

#take this with a grain of salt becuse ive only listened to magnus archives for now but ive heard theres Eyes in a lot of the other ones too #and i just think its a bit funny #a little silly #the magnus archives #welcome to night vale #malevolent #podcast #fiction podcast

[is-nino-actually-luka]

Do you guys ever think about how Badrien just doesn’t talk. He’s absolutely silent the entire time when he doesn’t have his miraculous. Like when he was handcuffed on the ground he didn’t ever say anything. When Marinette asked if he knew her he just shrugged. Literally the only things I remember him saying was Plagg, Daggers Out. He only ever spoke to become Claw Noir.

But when he was transformed he was talking non stop. He was taunting everyone, his allies and his enemies, even by himself he just played with dolls and talked to himself.

And I just kind of think about this a lot

#ml spoilers #ml paris special #miraculous ladybug #apparently he said something in the French dub #so he might have also said something in the English dub and I just missed it #so take this post with a grain of salt #but the overall thing that he is a lot quieter than claw noir still stands i think

[salted15]

so i'm sure everyone has heard everyone going insane about this new show

#i am not immune /pos #it's so good i love it a lot #the amazing digital circus #tadc #tadc pomni #pomni #charlie don't look #lightly salted art #bright colors cw #cw bright colors

[spooksier]

if i was president of fanfiction it would be required that before anybody writes fanfiction set in s4 of tma they must answer my comprehension test which is comprised of only one question “how do you feel about basira hussain” and if they answer wrong theyre immediately sentenced to 50 years of hard labor in the salt mines

#ask! #tma #ive read a lot of s4 tma fanfiction that pissed me off can you tell #MELANIE BASIRA DAISY GEORGIE. GET BEHIND ME #MY BEAUTIFUL WOMEN #the wrong answer is anything that positions her as unreasonably cruel or mean. to the salt mines with you

[yea-baiyi]

say what you want about svsss but hands down the most distraught i have ever been while reading a mxtx novel is after the bing-ge extra. what do you mean he asked shen qingqiu to come with him. what do you mean “it’s not fair”. what do you mean he looked back.

#svsss #luo binghe #luo bingge #lbh #meta stuff #every time i read that part i literally have to just stop to recover #because what the hell. he’s making his escape but at the last moment he turns. #he turns and looks back and then he vanished forever. and the narration is shocked #that it was so easy. #what in the eurydice mangan’s sister and lot’s wife have you done to me #turned into a pillar of salt #i don’t know if i have it in me to be more eloquent about this. it’s just. #out of everything this is just the ultimate tragedy #the fact that it’s just part of an extra. the FIRST extra #i just sit there like i’m supposed to just move on from that????? i’m supposed to read ahead and watch bingqiu fuck #and not want to rip my own heart out?????? #i just. i just. i said i’m not ready to get into it with svsss i just know it’ll break me

[nobodyfamousposts]

Do you think people cling on too much to Adrien's high road advice as a reason to salt on him?

Yes, especially when there are plenty of other reasons to salt him that have previously been ignored. But to that end, it DOES serve as the final straw for people after a SERIES of problems that had previously gone unaddressed.

Much like many aspects of the show, Adrien has displayed problematic behaviors that have been overlooked and waved off in the earlier seasons. This is likely or especially due to the way how in each and every incident, Adrien was narratively shown to be correct. In his stance. In his choices. In his behaviors. He was always right. It doesn't matter if he shouldn't be, because he is.

Now unless you're a hater or anti or salter or whatever negative name people tend to get for not liking a story as it's presented, readers and watchers tend to follow along with the narrative as it presents things and how it presents things. It's a common setup in any story. Protagonist Centered Morality, I feel framed best by Susan in the Discord series:

Susan: ...and then Jack chopped down the beanstalk, adding murder and ecological vandalism to the theft, enticement and trespass charges already mentioned, but he got away with it and lived happily ever after without so much as a guilty twinge about what he had done. Which proves that you can be excused anything if you're a hero, because no one asks inconvenient questions.

Pretty much this. Most people will follow what the narrative says because it's the narrative. If the narrative wants you to focus on Marinette being embarrassed, you're going to focus on how much she's cringe. And if the narrative wants you to view Adrien as a perfect sunshine boy who never does anything wrong, anything he does is going to be framed through that lens and it's difficult to break from that view and call out the times when he is wrong. Not unless he does something particularly severe.

It should be noted that outside of Chameleon, Adrien had, among other things: lied to his partner, caused someone to get akumatized and had his partner take the blame, was messing around during life-threatening and city-threatening situations, did nothing as Chloe tormented people right in front of him, DEFENDED Chloe after she tormented people right in front of him, bailed on an event with friends to set up a date with someone who said she had other plans and then got mad at HER for it, tried to flirt or confess in the middle of an active crisis which took necessary attention away from said crisis, caused himself AND his partner to get hit by akuma powers and needlessly be taken out of commission.

And yet people could mostly overlook these instances. They weren't his fault. Chloe is his friend. Marinette is worse. He's just a kid. He has a tragic backstory. So on and so forth. Easy to overlook. Easy to ignore in favor of the Sunshine Boy setup people were given and want to believe in.

But there were three major instances that really grabbed people's attention and stayed:

His attitude in Frozer. It probably wouldn't have been so bad except this rejection already happened in Glaciator, where he was supposed to have learned a lesson and accepted just being Ladybug's friend and now apparently didn't, despite it happening earlier that very season. Then in response, he decides to date Kagami as a rebound, drags Marinette with him on his date (without realizing how he's asking his friend to be a third wheel on a DATE) and focuses on her when he's supposed to be with Kagami, throws another tantrum in the middle of an akuma fight and refuses to work with his partner when the city is literally frozen, and requires Ladybug to apologize to him for hurting his feelings before he finally working with her. Again. But okay, he's a teenage boy in love. Not used to rejection and got his feelings hurt. Lovesquare is endgame so of course it'll work out anyway, so it's not like this bump in the road is really going to matter long term so we shouldn't hold it against him. Fine. Dumb, but fine. We've forgiven it in other shows and other poorly done teen romances, we can forgive it here.

His behavior in Syren in which he demanded to know secrets from people when the secrets were not theirs to tell him, and went so far as to attempt to blackmail his kwami (which was funny) and threaten to quit and abandon the Ring that the big bad is after while the city is flooded and people were trying to not drown (which was decidedly less humorous). But it was played for wholesome when Plagg reassured him and he got what he wanted by Fu revealed himself even if Adrien did nothing to actually show he earned it, so all's well that ends well, I guess? And people could justify it because "they're partners" and "part of a team" and "she should trust him" and "it's not fair he's the only one left out of the loop" and "he has a right to know" and just general "Fu is an idiot" (which is admittedly hard to argue). So people were disgruntled, but most were willing to overlook it.

His holier than thou lecture to Marinette in Maledictator over everyone being happy Chloe was leaving. When all Marinette was doing at the time was watching everyone else have fun. When Adrien specifically guilted Marinette and not any of the other actual partiers involved who were literally throwing a party over his friend leaving and probably should have warranted a lecture more than the girl just standing there. When the girl in question was also Chloe's main target and out of everyone had valid reasons to be happy that her bully won't be around to bully her anymore. When Adrien himself has historically been present to witness Marinette being targeted including twice he witnessed Chloe attempt to steal from Marinette, once he witnessed her try to blackmail Marinette, and numerous other times when she actively caused harm to Marinette and others. When Adrien then proceeded to sit in a corner and pout rather than do anything else or just leave if the party really bothered him. When Adrien, if he really cared so damn much, could have gone after Chloe himself! Or y'know...have stood up for Chloe earlier when she got upset in the first place. But fine, okay, Chloe is his childhood friend. So maybe he's just being biased and oblivious to the fact that his "friend" is a horrible person. But people can excuse and justify it in that they are friends and friends support each other, and the longer someone is friends with someone else, the harder it is to break from them. And that Marinette was probably just the target of his lecture because she was the one there in the moment (and the only one who would listen without arguing). And her calling Chloe useless was "mean" despite it being quite frankly the least of what she could have said about her in the moment (coughcough theft cough blackmail cough punished the entire school cough TRIED TO CRASH A TRAIN AND NEARLY KILLED HER AND HER PARENTS COUGH-FREAKINGCOUGH). Fine. Childhood friend means Adrien supports her in all her horrible and even deadly actions. Frustrating, but again, able to be explained and you can see where he's coming from.

These are all things that definitely got Adrien some side eye at best and some detractors at worst.

BUT if you really think about it, all of these examples are objectively worse than his lecture to Marinette in Chameleon. Not accepting being told "no" and continuing to chase a girl who isn't that in to him (while leading on another). Putting lives at risk over personal wants that could quite honestly wait until AFTER the crisis is over. Defending someone who is harmful and guilt tripping the victims. Compared to those, telling someone to leave a liar to their lying seems relatively minor.

So why this? Why here? Why is it Chameleon that has people saying enough is enough? Why is it this episode that is causing the sunshine boy to be so tarnished and the subject of salt in fan fiction?

Because this is the time when it couldn't be rationalized. There wasn't even a valid sensible canon-based reason for his stance. The arguments that Adrien "knew confronting her wouldn't work" or that he "handled her like paparazzi" or that he "knew Marinette previously failed when she tried" (even though he wasn't there and didn't know) or that he "didn't think anyone would believe him" don't come from canon. Those were fan arguments made after the fact to justify him after the base was broken and the outcry became too much to ignore.

This case didn't have any of the ties or rationales of the previous incidents. Adrien wasn't defending himself or his place in a partnership. He wasn't fighting for his love or his dream or an outcome he wanted and that we all knew was coming—if anything, he was fighting against her. He wasn't defending a friend like he did with Chloe—I mean, it's pretty evident he doesn't even really know or like Lila at this point, and for all intents and purposes, this is apparently only the second day he actually had any interaction with her. There was no notable reason Adrien really had for why he essentially chose to protect Lila over literally anyone else as she wasn't a friend and it wasn't in his interests to protect her from a consequence that wouldn't hurt her short term as much as it would likely harm everyone else long term.

And yet, he still defended her and her freedom to lie. Over Marinette. Over Ladybug. Over his friends. Over any sense of right and wrong he seems to have no problem throwing around when it comes to Marinette/Ladybug. Which seems like he targets her 9 times out of 10 compared to pretty much anyone else by this point. So it's little wonder then that people who didn't already hate the lovesquare because of the cringe factor from Marinette started to hate it for being incredibly unhealthy given that their relatively limited interactions tend to involve him lecturing her for failing to live up to his double standards that only seem to apply to her in any given situation.

This incident by itself doesn't seem like much, but when looked at as part of the series as a whole, it's when people couldn't keep overlooking this trend. Where he seems to admonish the wrong person. Where he acts like a mouthpiece rather than a person. Talks like he’s wise in a situation he seems to have a childish and one-sided view of. Acts like a brat but is treated as though he has no accountability in the situation he causes. Where he is wrong but no one and certainly not the narrative acknowledges it (not until season five and two seasons too late when it doesn't matter and he's still not the one facing consequences for it).

And it's not like he actually follows the stances he himself promotes. In Chameleon, canon presents him with this idealistic stance that Lila could change if given a chance, except he doesn't give her a chance. He doesn't push her to be a better person. He doesn't support or in any way help her to be the better person he insisted to Marinette she could be. He also doesn't do anything or warn anyone when she keeps lying and actively harms the people he says he cares about. He doesn't do anything one way or the other other than some lackluster encouragement to stop lying and a warning that goes nowhere. It just further gives credit to the argument that Adrien either simply doesn't care about other people, or that he doesn't care for Marinette specifically. Neither is conducive to the lovesquare or the increasingly tarnished view of the "sunshine boy".

And it could have worked. Canonically and intrinsically to his character. His idealism and trust in the wrong person comes back to bite him. He learns and grows from it. Except that, much like with nearly everything he does in canon, Chameleon set it up that Adrien was the writers' mouthpiece and thus was not "wrong". I'll grant that they did have him admit it and apologize to Marinette for it two seasons later, but it is pretty evident that during Chameleon, they intended his lecture to be right, with no foreshadowing and no implication otherwise. And I'm fairly certain they only backtracked and had him do that much because of the amount of fan outrage over the episode.

So yes, I think his lecture in Chameleon was really a final straw since unlike Chloe, Adrien has NO relationship with Lila to justify his defense of her. Especially when the argument is in favor of letting her lie to the people he's supposed to care about. That combined with how jarring it was how most of the class just sided with Lila over the seat issue in the first place, and I think people were less inclined to just ignore the problems in the episode specifically and with the series as a whole as they were compared to the first and second seasons. Not just with Adrien, as we see that Alya also started getting more callout and salt since then as well as more retrospective scrutiny over her behavior in earlier seasons.

But yeah...Chameleon was where things seemed to take a 180, so it's bound to be the deciding episode and deciding incident that sticks out in people's minds with these characters. That's probably why it ends up the go-to for salt and complaints on the characters involved instead of any of the other incidents that would arguably warrant it more.

#ml salt #adrien salt #chameleon salt #season 5 salt #ml analysis #ml essay #yes it's a lot of salt #yes i am doing this again

[tawaifeddiediaz]

do you ever think about how much it hurts eddie when chris expresses how much of his mother he's beginning to lose. because we know that he does his best to keep her memory alive, that they go to her grave and they talk openly about her. but there are things that eddie will never be able to replicate for him - her voice, the way she smelled, the way she'd walk towards him, how she felt when she held him close, etc - and chris will continue to lose those details even if eddie talked about shannon 24/7 for the rest of his life.

that is a sort of helplessness that i don't think anyone talks about enough, and that makes eddie's expression when he overhears chris talking to buck all the more wounded

#zee rambles #i dunno i just see this a lot in widowed parents #and anyone thats mourning or grieving and its a loss that never really leaves you #but its literally salt to an open wound to hear your child like this #knowing that theres grief that changes you unmeasurably #911 abc #911 meta #911 spoilers #shannon diaz #eddie diaz #christopher diaz #tw grief

[mysillycomics]

I’m glad you all like my fish so far! I have been drawing a lot of them and have many left to post so be on the lookout for fishies! 🐟🐟🐟

#you may see your fav! I’ve got lots planned too #I want to make sticker sheets based off of size and water type #like big freshwater big salt water #deep sea and domestic/pet #stuff like that #fish are very fun to draw btw I recommend it #not comics #smiling at some of the replies bc I already have some of them drawn hehe

[fishbloc]

What was the last song you've recommended to someone?

answered this on a prev ask but i thought id throw in this wip too since its based off the song i linked

(for my au salt and grease)

#that song is the salt and grease anthem okay need everyone to listen to it ❗❗❗❗❗❗ #actually this wip has a lot of mistakes i need everyone to look away if they spotted something BE QUIEETTTTT #its just a sketch anyway sniff sniff #烤鱼 #邮箱 #desert duo #salt and grease au

[turtleblogatlast]

It’s too bad the Hamatos can’t go almost anywhere in the Hidden City without getting banned from a place or committing a crime or being blamed for a crime and then banned from a place because the Hidden City must contain a treasure trove of basic items that would help their specific mutations. I like to imagine that they sometimes do manage to go a day without too much incident to get some of these items.

Like, special lotions for Yokai scales, brushes made especially for shelled humanoids, clothing made to fit their forms better, etc, etc. Even Splinter could probably find a lot of stuff for like fur and teeth care that’s hard to find above ground.

They’d gotten by more than well on their own, but there’s a certain luxury to be had for specially made stuff infused with all sorts of healing mystic properties as well. Imagine they all had aches and pains they’d just dealt with for years only to realize that oh wait…I don’t have to feel like this all the time?

#rottmnt #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt headcanons #like Donnie getting special oil for his softshell that’s not too greasy and easy to rub on the sandpaper-y surface #or Mikey getting salts specially made to make going into his shell even easier #or Raph getting clothing that lets his spikes breathe without ripping holes into the fabric #or them getting a better understanding of their bodies by being around places with that info available #(and because I have no restraint this could so totally end in a surprise trans/intersex Leo all along reveal lol) #listen I’m just saying there’s a lot of possibilities here #imagine Splinter finding some fabrics for both he and his sons that feels better on them so he lovingly makes some clothes for them #like when they were babies

[iwasbored777]

Marinette: *wants to date Adrien*

Adrien: *doesn't want to date Marinette*

Marinette: *still wants to date Adrien*

Adrien: *dates Kagami*

Marinette: *dates Luka*

Adrien: *breaks up with Kagami*

Marinette: *breaks up with Luka*

Marinette: *wants to date Adrien again*

Adrien: *doesn't want to date Marinette*

Marinette: *doesn't want to date Adrien anymore*

Adrien: *wants to date Marinette now*

Marinette:

#LIKE BOI I'M GLAD YOU WANT TO BUT #YOU GAVE HER A LOT HEADACHE #Miraculous ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #Adrienette #ml multiplication #ml spoilers #Ml meme #AND THIS ISN'T SALT #STOP SALTING ON THIS POST

[they-call-me-haiku]

i find it funny how people praise the owl house for breaking the trend of redeeming the villain when the show instead took the laziest path with dealing with their villain. i mean, i get it. not all villains need to be redeemed and sometimes, it's just fine to kill them off or defeat them. no character is irredeemable, but sometimes the point is that people refuse to change.

but what they did with belos was just lazy. he didn't need to be redeemed, sure, but his ending was way too anti-climactic. he was such a complex character to just be labelled as Pure Evil™ and killed off at the end. he didn't need to be redeemed, but he at least deserved to be acknowledged as the three-dimensional complex character that he is. he wasn't just a disney-esque villain who did everything for power and had no depth to his personality. he was a symbol of religious trauma and how it affects people. he was a horrible person but also a sympathetic one, because i can only imagine how harmful growing up in the puritan era would have been.

like i said before, the show being cancelled is not an excuse. i was so excited to see all the religious and spiritual themes in belos's past, and all the theories that fans were coming up with. hell, some fans did a better job of representing belos than the show ever did. i just feel like it was a whole bag of lost potential. belos could have been one of the most insanely complex and well-written villains but the creators of the owl house wants to impress its fans, so they pull a "haha we're not like other shows because we can't sympathize with the villain!" newsflash: you don't need to redeem the villain in order to portray them as sympathetic. azula from avatar and simon from infinity train are good examples of sympathetic villains/antagonists who don't get redeemed.

it's even more ridiculous considering how rushed and badly written lilith's arc was, even though she cursed her sister, tried to kill a literal child, and almost got her sister turned to stone. you'd think if the show despises redemptions so much, they wouldn't give lilith a lazy and rushed redemption arc like that, only to render her useless for the rest of the show.

#i need to clarify while i sympathize with belos i still get that he's called a villain for a reason #i'm not a belos apologist #since a lot of people here lack reading comprehension #toh #toh criticism #toh critical #toh salt #toh discourse #emperor belos #belos the owl house #lilith #anti lilith #lilith critical #lilith the owl house #lilith clawthorne #philip wittebane

[jade-of-mourning]

sorry sometimes i think about mako and my heart hurts so much. this kid raised himself and his brother on the streets in homelessness and utter poverty from eight through fifteen, promptly after seeing the violent death of his mother and father. he turned to the triple threats because they couldn't survive as a pair of wretched kids without any adult support, and the environment forced him to turn into the exact character that killed his parents in a terrible twist of irony. and after sheer-fucking-luck hits and they aren't homeless anymore, their livelihood wavers on the outcome of what's a literally game to everyone but them; and after things are finally starting to look up and their team is going places and things just might be okay, his gradually stabilizing world unceremoniously expands and everything goes to shit.

and the city that chewed him up and spat him back out, ruined him as a child and took away his ability to stay afloat in a true sense of normalcy as an adult — when it's on the verge of destruction and falling to pieces before his eyes, he gives himself to save it with the full expectation to die. he went from the kid who didn't and couldn't care about anything outside of himself and his brother, to finding redemption for his younger self in his police work despite its injustice against him, to willingly sacrificing himself to a world that had never loved him.

he's a desperate people pleaser, socially and emotionally stunted for the adult he had to be as a kid, unable to navigate interpersonal relationships easily yet still trying his damned hardest. he's intensely and entirely devoted to the things that matter to him and for so long it was only him, bolin, and ensuring their survival — yet by the end, that devotion has expanded to protecting the rest of the world. he starts out entirely self-reliant and ends in trusting the people he cares about to know their own needs, to be able to take care of themselves, to be okay without him despite having spent so much of his life defined by his role in others' well-being.

just. what the fuck i'm such a big fan of this fictional guy and i'm unashamed about it at this point. also let him cry please (if you won't i'll do it i'll let him cry)

#lychee's brain trash #mako lok #mako tlok #sorry for the shitpost i don't do a lot of those i realize #how tf did this guy not had a massive break down in canon at any point #nd like;; he never shows resentment for the unfairness of it all #he doesn't ever use his past to excuse any of his choices/actions that are influenced by it #which is pretty intrinsically linked to his relationship fumbles #he just quietly holds himself accountable and probably mildly despises himself haha #as much as i don't care for the love triangle it really does make complete sense in accordance to his backstory #anyway this is just a roundabout way of me expressing my salt at people writing him off as a malicious asshole lol #i literally cannot articulate the intense complex things his conjured up existence makes me feel #this does not even scratch the surface there is SO MUCH #i need to actually write the fifty fics that exist to my brain otherwise all these thoughts will never see the sun #trust that one day the avatar!mako au will emerge from my drafts;;; #and. you know. that one shot i've had in wip for the past 2.5 years #and the four other oneshots that will probably never be converted into actual words

[massivewaffle]

I think a lot of people are feeling dissatisfied with the lack of PVP on Purgatory because Etoiles has (barely) been able to fight. The majority of people watching/participating actively assumed Green was a frontrunner purely because it has Etoiles in it, who 3 v 1'd the codes, so who could even compare in a PVP event?

Problem is, Purgatory Etoiles isn't treated the same as QSMP Etoiles. On the island, Etoiles had a purpose in fighting the codes. He was never a threat to his fellow islanders, and they knew him well enough to not be scared. Etoiles was playful and well-liked by everyone. But in Purgatory, where it's team v team and friends v friends, everyone is on edge and wary of Etoiles because he 3 v 1'd the codes. They cheered for him at the time, but they've also seen what he can do and what he could do to them.

In Purgatory, Etoiles is feeling a bit annoyed with everything. Suddenly, everyone on the island has forgotten that one of Etoiles' driving character traits is that he's honorable. Too honorable right now, maybe. He doesn't attack his friends in a blitz; he asks them to 1 v 1. He gives them armor and time to craft before a fight. He promises (and honors) his vow to not loot their bodies; he waits so they can get their stuff back. He is yearning for a fight, to participate in the one activity that he loves, something that he was admired for doing last week, but now no one is willing to engage with him. The day before Purgatory, he was asking to stick fight and teaching people how to improve their PVP, and now they assume he will attack them? Rather than blame his friends who don't want to fight, he sometimes blames himself for being too good with too much of a tryhard reputation to be worth the risk. He's snarky and dramatic and feels rejected by all the islanders who praised his accomplishments days ago.

Etoiles is basically a labrador who is desperate for someone to play fetch with. He needs stimulation - needs to be called upon for something. He's desperate to engage with others, but he's so lonely and dispirited and so ridiculously bored.

#qsmp #etoiles #look etoiles is my favorite cc #i think about his character a lot sorry #obviously take it all with a grain of salt but yknow #it's the vibe i get #Let the man have a really good fight please #he and roier were so despondent tonight

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

fans: omg our innocent little meow meow! she's such a baby 🥺🥺 poor traumatized kitten protect her at all costs!! 😭😭

the character in question:

#girl how about you protect everyone else from HER #look i'm not against liking villains #a lot of my favourite characters are villains bc of how interesting they are #but maybe STOP trying to woobify a war criminal who has committed countless atrocities without remorse?? #not only are you making light of abuse and war #but you're also actually misrepresenting catra by reducing her to just one of her traits #same with anyone who reduces adora to just “dumb lesbian” #spop critisism #spop critical #spop #spop discourse #spop salt #anti catradora #spop criticism #she ra #anti catra