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#Also this is making me want to write a scenario in which we're his MC instead of Saerans
brighteststar707 · 1 year
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An update on my progress playing Ray's after ending (spoilers under the cut)
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SCREAMING CRYING WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO HIM
I know Saeran is supposed to be a pacifist but I can't do this. Let me fight them PLEASE 😭 as if forcing him to be his father's puppet wasn't enough they had to go and drug him too.
His whole speech was so upsetting to read through and I have a feeling its only going to get worse from here. Bad time to be a saeyoung MC huh.
Also, I'd like to have a word with whoever drew the CGs for this because this broke my heart
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misc-obeyme · 10 months
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I didn't realize Lesson 19 was happening today, but as soon as I figured it out you can be sure all my other plans for the evening got tossed out the window.
I apologize in advance for the length of this post. I had more to say than I thought I did. And I'd already wrote the whole thing, so I was like I don't wanna break it up into multiple posts now!
Spoilers below the cut as always.
I'm going to lose my whole mind. There is no way that this isn't the "visiting and kissing every brother" scenario that happens before the end of a season. And yet I still have SO MANY QUESTIONS.
I am very much under the impression that we are not going to be leaving the past by the end of season one. Which is ANNOYING. I keep thinking about the brothers in our present timeline. I might have to write some angty story about it to make myself feel better.
But also, what're they gonna do? Send MC back to the human world? I mean, every other season has ended that way...??? Maybe it's different because we're in ~Nightbringer~ now. We'll see I guess!
Anyway, this lesson certainly wasn't bad and there were a lot of interesting things happening to these past versions of our bros.
AUGH THE BROTHERLY LOVE IN THIS LESSON THOUGH.
Okay, so this is not really the same as how they were in the OG, but I think this makes sense considering how much time has supposedly passed between the two timelines. I mean, think about how siblings are when nothing's wrong and they're all just getting on each other's nerves most of the time. Then think about how those same siblings might band together when things get dicey. That seems to be the family dynamic we have going on here.
Leviathan, my sweet boy, I really loved how he reassured all his little bros that everything was going to be okay. He was so confident and firm in his decision in this lesson, too.
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And then the way they were all surprised about it was so cute, too.
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I just loved this whole moment.
Okay. And obviously we have to talk about Mammon.
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This whole part really showcases Mammon and Lucifer's relationship, I think. To me, it seems like Lucifer is very much going to lock himself away, not talk to anybody about his feelings, and possibly prepare to do something drastic because he thinks it's what's best for his brothers without actually asking them. But Mammon knows this. He knows exactly what's going on with Lucifer. He doesn't have to talk to him to know. And he also knows what's going to help Lucifer. Not just the pudding, but sending MC with it, too.
Honestly, Lucifer does not give Mammon enough credit in general. Mammon is always doing stuff like this. And then throughout the rest of the lesson, he's being the big brother, too. It's like Mammon thinks that Lucifer is the one who carries all the weight on his own, but really Mammon is the one keeping that family together, I swear.
The thing about it is, none of them will do anything without Lucifer being on board. And Mammon knows that, too. So he's like okay I'm gonna send this human with some pudding to talk to Lucifer and because those are two things that Lucifer really likes, he will probably get it together enough to make the decision we all want him to.
And I think Levi understands this, too, to a lesser extent. He's over here trying to make the younger bros feel better while Mammon is trying to make Lucifer feel better.
Okay now we have to talk about Satan.
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First they hit us with the Satan telling everybody to leave him behind and go back if they want to.
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And then this part where they all call him out on saying he's not their brother.
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And then when he finally admits he wants to be their bro and Asmo hits him with the I'm so proud of you... when I tell you I was tearing up...
I want to point out how Asmodeus and Beelzebub are the two who chimed in with these lines after Satan says he wants to be their brother. Because I think these two are the most open with their feelings in general. While Belphie will be quick to call someone out if he's annoyed with them, both Asmo and Beel are quick to praise someone. It isn't just that they're happy he finally said it, they understand that he needs their reassurance in that moment and they have no problem giving it.
And all of this was so good! It was such an excellent culmination of all the stuff that had been leading up to this point regarding Satan and his relationship with his brothers. This is exactly the kind of understanding and closure I want to have for all the other weird junk that we have no answers for yet! I should be grateful we at least got this, I suppose!
And then Lucifer makes it all crazy with an explanation I thought we'd never get about what it was like when Satan was "born."
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I think it's pretty clear that they're saying exactly what some people were pointing out in the vampire event. Because Satan got vampiritis even though it only affected fallen angels. And I was definitely like that doesn't make sense! But some people said well considering he came from Lucifer, Satan probably has angel in him. And you guys were right! Because I'm pretty sure that's what Lucifer is saying here.
He may have never lived as himself in the Celestial Realm, but Satan has that same angelic power in him.
Lucifer's relationship with him is really quite interesting. I know he says he thinks of him as his brother, but... the way he talks about him... to me, it still sounds like he thinks of Satan more as his son. But I think it's easier for the game if he's one of the seven brothers lol. I personally headcanon it as Lucifer just doesn't want Satan to feel any more out of place than he already does. Also, that's kind of the familial relationship that all the former angels have in mind when it comes to each other, since they have a collective Father figure and I know Lucifer doesn't want to be seen as anything close to that entity.
And then Lucifer talks about how his decisions have caused the others to suffer. And I think this comes back to what I was saying when I was talking about Mammon - the rest won't do anything unless Lucifer makes the decision. Mammon knows this and Lucifer does, too. He talks about how he almost made a huge mistake because he was thinking about sending the others back to the Celestial Realm.
And I have two things to say about this:
One: Lucifer shouldn't have made any decision without talking to his brothers first. He needs to stop shouldering all the responsibility himself.
Two: If he really thought they would have wanted that, he really hasn't been paying attention. Sure, they've had some conflicting feelings about being in the Devildom. But they've all said they made their own choice to follow Lucifer. Does he really think they would want to leave him now? And everybody says Mammon is the idiot.
But then he surprised me by admitting that he was ashamed for almost doing that. And he apologized to them all. I couldn't believe it!
And one of my favorite parts of the whole thing:
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PFFFF if that isn't the Satan we know and love!
Anyway, all in all, this lesson gave us some things that I have been wanting. Very specifically, Lucifer told us what he remembered about falling and Satan's "birth." And I can't believe we got Lucifer finally being open and talking to his bros at the end. It makes me annoyed because why hasn't present timeline Lucifer done anything like that, huh?? But yeah, it's because a billion years have passed or whatever and he's older and crankier in the present lol.
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vioisgoinginsane · 11 months
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i for real love ur blog. It makes me laugh a lot. I was already a twist fan but you also got me to download ike prince which has become an Obsession!!!
i want to learn about the different princes. can you help me find writers who are really good at writing each prince? like, blogger x is great for chevalier, blogger y is known for leon etc
only if u have time for a task like this! if not it's ok i still love your blog ❤️
Awww thank you so much💜💜💜💜
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*open notes* twst people I accidentally got into ikepri: 1 (yes i keep score of these things. There's also like 4 people i accidentally tricked into liking gilbert)
I'm always happy to hear people like it around here despite the fact that it's just... Me being random...a lot of self shipping... Occasional stroke of genius... But we're here for good vibes only(Except when I'm writing angst) you are very welcome! ^^
Personally, I mostly come on here and read Gilbert, Clavis and Rio fics on repeat. BUT i know all the resident simps and can either direct you to them or call for their aid.
Firstly, I can send you to @violettduchess 's FULLY COMPLETED list of Detailed Kisses. My favorite one is Rio's, because she hates his guts but she still wrote it when I asked her to on april fools :)))) i did not expect that (DO NOT TEST YOUR LUCK THE WAY I DID) i swear everything she touches turns into diamonds. Chef's kiss prose (pun intended) she seems particularly fond of Gilbert. Especially of putting him the vampire AU
@aquagirl1978 is the resident biggest Chev simp, but she has written for literally every suitor. SHE HAS 3 DIFFERENT IKEPRI MASTERLIST I don't even think I read all of them. It's like an all you can eat buffet when you find her blog for the first time!
I have no words to describe how much i love @venulus 's Clavis's Journal Entries. They are so in character I would think she does read his actual diary and merely translates it for us.
@scorchieart writes platonic fics that just really scratch that specific itch of seeing the princes interact with each other as brothers or other stuff that's not romance driven
@batteryrose is OCxNokto central. The fandom here just about collectively accepts Adam as canon. Or at least I do. Ngl there's is SO MUCH additional lore and OCs Devon made we sometimes wonder if it's still ikepri but I can definitely fit that in my worldview (right next to the delusions about being a bridesmaid at Nokto and Adam's wedding.)
Local Jin simp: @randonauticrap
Jin is not one of my favourites so if you ask me for Jin fics I'm gonna be like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the only one I ever read was @xxsycamore 's infamous Nipples fic (read at your own risk)
Speaking of @xxsycamore , she is best known as the local ikevamp Napoleon simp, but writes a bunch of ikepri too, she also wrote these little scenarios of Reader x Emma(ikepri MC) that I do believe are one of the most unique things I've seen on this site. Imagine. Ikepri is SUCH a good game it got people simping for the self insert character. (Ikesen and ikevil did too, actually. Hats off to cybird overall)
Local Leon simp: @leonscape (I on the other hand... Am yet to even finish his route😅)
I love love love @atelier-the-atelier 's blog but trying to talk about it to people feels like... Calling them over to the dark side or something. She writes the most cursed cracksmut i ever did read... And will sprinkle in the most intimate, in depth characterisation of Gilbert... I must insist, *shaking you violently* DO NOT GO THERE UNLESS YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU LIKE THE WEIRD SHIT AND ARE TOO FAR GONE altho that's not all she writes. We do have the lil dadbert posts... Altho my favorite post of hers IS a cracksmut that i have up my sleeve at all times. I'll hold back tho.
Maaan, I do like these occasional recomandation asks I get every now and then cuz they give me the excuse to gush about how much i love this fandom and the content creators in it ^^ everyone tagged, and anyone else, can take this as an excuse to tell me your favorite fanfics of your favorite prince
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Hi, first of all I'd like to say that I love your fics and theories/hcs/asks and I can't wait for The Phantom of Sunny Day Jack knowing that you were also working on it.
Secondly, there's something I've always been wondering. Since all characters with routes are male and the MC dated Ian it's kind of a given that (and necessary for the story to progress) that Sunshine is attracted both romantically and sexually to men. But what if Jack wasn't that lucky and MC was asexual? Since sex is kinda what lovers do so in Jack's mind so it seems to make him more sure of their love/feel secure in the relationship.
And what if they were asexual and aromantic and just couldn't love him back so friendship is all Jack will ever have. He's not their only friend either, and MC has known Shaun longer so his position as someone most important in his Sunshine's life is even more threatened, how would he deal with those feelings and the jealousy?
Or even worse, what if MC was attracted to women exclusively? In aroace friendship you can still technically make him #1 very best friend or something, but here Sunshine would actually LOVE someone else without him having the chance to win them over because it's impossible for them to ever reciprocate and naturally they'd be dating someone eventually, perhaps even married a woman, and naturally most people put their spouse above all. They don't neglect other relationships, but this one is simply the most important. How would he cope with that? Since whether he even gets to exist depends solely on whether MC wants him to. Would he get involved or just let his Sunshine be happy?
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Ah... you really flatter me. Thank you! It makes me happy to know that you enjoy my writing and ideas so much that it makes you look forward to the Phantom of Sunny Day Jack more. I'm still blown away whenever someone tells me that. Thank you for being so kind.
Anyway, onto the ask...
You do raise an interesting question about an MC who simply isn't attracted to men. While we have evidence that the MC is attracted emotionally/romantically/physically to men, that doesn't mean that we can't go the AU route, or examine a scenario where they realize that it's not truly what they want after breaking things off with Ian.
I have touched on MC being asexual/aromantic in a previous post and how Jack might deal with that. I believe that if MC simply was incapable of romantic and/or physical attraction, that would Jack some worries, not because he's not supportive, but I think that Jack finds love to be the closest bond people can have. I also talked about how I believe he feels that sex is closely tied to that.
The fact of the matter is that Jack needs MC. From what we've seen on the "no" route in the demo, if they stop needing him, he'll become less real and will probably disappear. In that case he'll most likely return to a place that he described as hell.
That's why I think Jack insists on MC remembering him. If he stops being important in their mind, if they stop caring about his existence... then he's gone. Not to mention the fact that it hurts like hell when the person you love doesn't love you back.
If MC was incapable of feeling romantic love, that would be painful for Jack. Still, I imagine he would hold out hope that maybe someday that could change, especially if we're still talking about a continuity where they were in a relationship with someone before they met.
I can imagine that Jack wants the relationship Ian and MC had, which I'm sure is one of the many reasons why he probably dislikes Ian. Ian wasn't satisfied with the person Jack loves and needs so desperately. Jack can't lose MC, but Ian threw them away for a fling. It's kind of a maddening thought if you think about it.
If the relationship with Ian played a part in MC realizing that they weren't sexually or romantically attracted to men, it might be just another reason for Jack to not like Ian, to be honest. Not that Jack needs even more reasons to want to take care of Ian at this point.
Anyway, since you brought up a lot of different possibilities about MC's orientation that Jack could potentially deal with, I'm going to break them down one at a time. Let's keep going with the assumption that MC figured out this aspect about themselves after breaking up with Ian rather than it always being the case for the sake of simplicity.
First, let's go with an asexual MC who is sex repulsed. They don't want sex at all, but they still can feel attracted to men romantically. It's less than ideal for Jack considering his high libido and how he associates sex with love. However, he cares about MC's happiness and consent, so he won't do anything they don't want.
A quick reminder here - the "no" route was not intended to be a case of non/dubious consent. The team behind the game have repeatedly stated that Jack cannot do anything MC doesn't want. He can't even touch them they don't want him to. The intention in the narrative seems to be for MC to be reluctant about having sex, but still making the conscious choice to have sex with Jack in that route. The option to turn down sex altogether in either route is something that the team said will be added in a future update to the demo.
That said, I think Jack could accept not having sex with MC, provided that they showed him that they love and need him in other ways. I think he'll only truly feel secure if he's convinced that he's the most important person to MC, and they'll never stop loving him. As long as they could get together romantically, and MC could show him love other ways, I think he could be happy and eventually feel secure that a strong relationship doesn't need sex to solidify a strong bond of love.
With an aromantic MC, that's a different beast, especially if they have any sort of desire to have sex with people. I have a bad feeling that if MC was incapable of romantic love, Jack would continue to pine for them. He would no doubt consent to being friends with benefits in a heartbeat. After all, it's something he can give them that they want. I think that the mood would in a lot of ways be like the "no" route, since that is a prime example of MC and Jack having sex while MC doesn't want him romantically. The sex would be him desperately giving them what they desire just to make sure they never stop needing him... while he keeps loving them one-sidedly. He might even hope that one day things will change and they'll eventually love him as long as he just keeps giving them whatever they want. It would make for a pretty depressing situation, not going to lie.
It would make things worse if the aromantic and sexually active MC wants to have multiple sexual experiences with different partners without emotional attachment. I'm sure that would fuck Jack up mentally, and we'd see his worst yandere tendencies come out. I'd expect more and more people would be getting the Nick treatment, and even wind up killing themselves because of his manipulation.
After all, MC can't choose someone else if there's no one else left to choose.
With that thought in mind, an asexual/aromantic MC might be a little easier on Jack's state of mind, at least relatively. If MC doesn't want anyone else, romantically or physically, there's no one else who they're pursuing as a lover or partner. Jack, unfortunately, is no doubt going to remain constantly insecure, especially if MC has other friends, and he might start chasing them away and encouraging MC that they don't need anyone else but him, their best friend in the world.
I believe that Jack needs to feel like he's the most important person to MC. If he can't have reassurance that they'll always care about him and want him around, then he's going to have to make sure to do something about it himself.
Now... when it comes to MC not being romantically attracted to men... it would likely be the same functionally as just not being attracted to Jack in general. It doesn't matter who the person is or their sexuality - if they become more important than Jack to MC, then he can't feel secure in his existence. He might lose them. I'm sure he can live with being their best friend if not their lover, but not if they take someone else as a lover.
Jack seems willing to be whatever MC wants him to be, give them whatever they want as long as they'll always remember him.
That isn't to say that Jack would change into a woman to suit their desires if that's the only type of person they can feel attraction towards. His body might be affected by supernatural powers given the hints we've been given, but that would be pretty messed up.
Rather, I think Jack would try to figure out what about women that MC finds so appealing in a partner. Sometimes people with strong sexual preferences have exceptions despite their sexuality. He could potentially bank on becoming that exception by giving MC everything they could ever want in a relationship with a woman. Sure they might sigh and wish they knew a woman like him, but as long as he made sure no women get close to MC, then maybe eventually they'll change their mind.
It's a foolish hope, but it might be all Jack has at that point.
Of course... this is all speculation based off the idea that MC never really realizes that Jack is insecure about his relationship with them or why he needs them so badly. Not that he's going to tell them since that might risk losing them. It's possible if MC could find other ways to reassure Jack, maybe even help him deal with his issues and his tenuous grip on reality, then maybe he could become less insecure. Maybe he could accept just being friends with MC and accept his beloved being happy with someone else romantically, even if it breaks his heart.
Naturally, since the name of the game is Something's Wrong with Sunny Day Jack, that's probably far easier said than done.
@channydraws @earthgirlaesthetic @sai-of-the-7-stars @cheriihoney @illary-kore @okamiliqueur
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llycaons · 1 year
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surprise! I read volume 1 of svss
conclusion:
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okay, on a serious note - I know, I know, but the curiosity was really getting to me, and I like to know what I'm dealing with when I criticize something (if you were following me when I decided to read the mdzs novel, you'll remember I did the same thing then). anon who asked me if I'd ever read it because they wanted to hear my thoughts and I said no - well, if you're still out there, you got your wish. but only volume one (1/4 of the full story). read on for my impression and review.
many thanks to jana @neixins for being my discord reading buddy for this project! her support, insights, and companionship made this far more entertaining than it would have otherwise been
fun fact before we start: I don't know why svss is exclusively referred to by its english acronym, but the acronym for its mandarin title would be RZFZX (full title Rén zhā fǎnpài zìjiù xìtǒng). I suppose svss (or SVS, or SV) is snappier
this is the official translation I'm reading, and the writing style is fine. definitely easier to parse than orv. and the art really is lovely
tw for discussion of grooming, abuse, and rape
brief overview of the plot: protag shen yuan, a modern-day young adult, is reading a long, terrible male power fantasy/stallion novel and complaining about how contrived and stupid it is. he dies at the moment he finishes reading and is transmigrated into the novel in the body of the infamously cruel and sadistic teacher of the protag, shen qingqiu. he knows that the young protagonist of the novel (luo binghe) will enact terrible revenge on the teacher when he grows up for all the abuse he suffered under sqq's hands, so he tries to make nice and get the lbh to like him
shen yuan (now sqq) has to navigate the rules of the system while trying to save his own skin, avoid acting ooc while trying to be nice to the mc, advance the plot, get 'badass points', and resolve the issues that led to the work being of such poor quality. his modern, internal monologue contrasts with his scholarly air in very funny ways, and his constant critiques of the writing are likewise fairly humorous commentaries on lazy and stereotypical writing
however, the parodies of contrived, cliched, and foolish writing tropes do not stop mxtx from writing these very same tropes into later works like mdzs or tgcf, nor does her pointing out those tropes automatically make her book good, so it's an incredibly exasperating experience. I thought she improved since writing mdzs, but it seems like she knows that what she's doing is cliched or pandering but she does it anyway. much like sy, we're exasperated because this could have been a really cool work and the execution is just not what it could have been
this book also has the dubious honor of being the only mxtx book to reference incest without condemning it or recognizing it's disgusting
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I do think mxtx has a genuine talent for critiquing sexist and absurd romance tropes for straight couples, but she writes as if whatever gay people do to each other is fine. readers of tgcf and mdzs will know....in fact as much as I hate to say it, the moment in mdzs where wwx apologizes for assaulting lwj is one of the better ways she's handled these things. of course it's ruined later because lwj literally doesn't care he's been raped and they move past it immediately etc. but I would be shocked if the inappropriateness of the svss relationship is EVER addressed, so mdzs may actually be the one where it's handled slightly better. we know the age gap never comes up in tgcf, of course
anyway mxtx makes fun of the idea of a female love interest providing the mc with free therapy while she constructs a scenario in which sqq has to take on a love interest's role of support/inspiration
examples: this is a character that's presented as poorly-wriiten
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this is LITERALLY how xuan ji tgcf was written except she hates pm instead of being obsessed with him like was in the past!! don't critique shitty writing for female characters if you refuse to do better!
the characters are not especially noteworthy, and unlike in tgcf or mdzs the mc has no real distinctive style, either visually or personality-wise. almost everyone was either very one-dimensional, unlikable, or just boring imo. I get that we're very early into the novel, but I don't really care about these characters at all. shame because it sounds like the side characters are really fun later on
the modern-day origins of sy make for some funny references - there are mentions of harry potter, and the book he gets isekaid into apparently has a ton of fanfiction
the horror is quite good - some of those monsters are freaky as hell. she always did have a knack for horror
much like mdzs has a ton of literary references, svss has a lot of references to modern films and tv shows, and to things like chinese ads or websites that a modern-day chinese reader would recognize, but that a translator would need to explain. it also does have some proverbs and wordplay as well
as for the elephant in the room: I consider the relationship in this novel to be grooming rather than csa/pedophilia. they may not get together until they're adults, but the mc is 14 years old when sy is isekaid in and there is absolutely already some kind of mutual something going on as early as chapter 1, despite sy criticizing other characters for being creepy with their students and referring to lbh as a child repeatedly. while sqq doesn't act on any of these feelings, it is impossible to ignore in their interactions and it did give me a helpless sense that I was in a horror movie
mxtx toes the line and tries to get away with as much as possible - adult/child relationships and grooming are a joke to her and her readers, something exciting, something fun, but like in tgcf, nothing actually happens
they would have had a much better relationship as simply master and student. or if the romance needed to be there, sy could have been isekaid into one of lbh's peers, as he had plenty of bullies his age - gay love changing the course of the narrative is a fun trope and if they'd been the same age, I genuinely would have enjoyed it. but lbh venerates and hero-worships his teacher, and this kind of power dynamic doesn't just cease to matter once he hits 18. he was an abused and vulnerable child offered kindness and support, and he latched onto and became obsessed with his teacher. getting a crush on a teacher is fine, but it shouldn't have turned into a romance. like tgcf, the issues with the main couple are foundational, but they could have been eliminated by the author just not being a fucking creep
also, sqq is vain and self-centered, and while he treats lbh kindly and praises him, he also treats him like a servant and shamelessly exploits his hero-worship to get good food and manual labor out of him. he's out for his survival so I understand him acting selfishly, but he internally talks down to all the characters he meets if he thinks they're poorly written, and it makes it a nightmare to be in his head for very long bc he's so mean. he is funny, but but he fucking sucks and I dislike him as a main character. compared to wwx and xl, he's the worst main character in terms of personality (even if he's much better than the original sqq)
for specific examples for the inappropriate writing of their relationship, all in this volume:
there are several vague descriptions of ~feelings~ on both sides when they see each other (lbh is 14)
at one point, sqq is poisoned in a way that he knows can only be cured by sex with lbh, and he thinks of it briefly before laughing it off like 'wow that would be CRAZY' as always mxtx, jokes are a great way to handle statutory rape. excerpt:
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lbh overhears that sqq praised him, and the character he overhears it from is described as a wingman (lnh is 15)
one of the disciples is angry that sqq suddenly favors lbh. excerpt:
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after lbh 'dies' at age 17, sqq scolds himself, saying he's acting like a widow who's husband has died
so while nothing romantic or sexual happens this volume, the groundwork is there. see this screenshot from chapter 5 of the novel (originally chapter 30), at the very end of this volume:
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if sqq had no attraction to his student, there would be no reason to be so panicked
it's like...nobody acts normally about this. lbh and sqq have the weirdest quasi-flirtatious conversations that skirt the edge of being explicitly romantic/sexual. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that this was written to appeal to people who are into age gaps and grooming, if not outright csa. have some more excerpts
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like...what IS THIS?
at the end of this volume, lbh is sent away for five years by sqq (he was forced to drop him into a demon abyss bc he needed to advance the plot) so when lbh returns he will be 22 and presumably VERY angry with sqq, and will probably use his newfound power to...torture him? or something? I don't know how their relationship will go from now on, but I have no interest in reading it when I know it's going to end with them as lovers. yeah, even if it does happen when they're both in their late 20s
otherwise, the first few chapters of the novel are extremely funny. it and has a lot of original ideas. but it's difficult to ignore such a premise, and I don't think it's worth it to grit your teeth through unless you have a particular interest in reading this book, to either critique it, enjoy the humor and creativity, or try to figure out why people are so hell-bent on defending it. and honestly by chapter 4 (around ch25 in the original novel), it's not even that funny anymore and the parody aspect has worn out since there's so little of substance to replace it. the og novel is mocked for being a cliched mess, but these are mxtx's actual characters now and she doesn't really seem to do much better with them
the age gap in tgcf is creepy too and I definitely don't like that hc became fixated on xl at a young age, impersonated a little kid, and then reverted back to a little-kid form, but xl not actually knowing him or forming a relationship with him back then is part of why I'm less grossed out about it than I otherwise would be. xl didn't know who hc was when they met and they had barely any relationship when hc was a little kid. he was just a fun guy and they started hanging out together. hc wasn't a young boy placed under his care who he started developing feelings for oh my god I hate sqq so much
there was a side character that sqq describes as 'beautiful' who he had a somewhat antagonistic relationship with who would have been a PERFECT love interest for sqq if he wasn't a fucking creep and im so mad that they didn't become lbh's gay dads instead of whatever the fuck went on
tl; dr: an engaging and original premise with a lot of humor. clever and insightful in many ways, with some great horror scenes, but as in other novels, unable to be normal about gay people and inescapably, unnecessarily ruined by the grooming between the main character and his love interest and the abuse that apparently comes afterwards. also ignorant to its own faults, sexism, and illogical stances even as it parodies others
spoilers for the rest of the book
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according to a beloved mewtual who has provided me summary for the rest (thank you for the info!), the relationship is fucked up for the remainder of the book for completely different reasons
ready? after lbh comes back, sqq is freaked out and doesn't want anything to do with him because he thinks lbh is going to kill him. lbh in fact doesn't want to kill him, but has apparently undergone a complete personality change and is now just a bitter and VERY yandere asshole and proceeds to torment, stalk, harass, torture, and sexually assault sqq until sqq agrees to be in a relationship with him. this abuse and shifting of power dynamics could have been handled in an interesting way, but it isn't, and who's surprised
later in the story lbh is risking qi deviation, so sqq reluctantly (and painfully?) dual-cultivates with him. I heard years ago about some kind of rape torture porn scene and I assume this is what it was referring to
I cannot imagine the appeal this romance holds for fans because this sounds completely fucking miserable and victim-blamy as hell, but uhhh they get married in one of the extras
as for the side characters, a lot of them are kind of doing their own thing? they sound like a ton of fun compared to the main guys. there's a demon snake guy, they're a cool demon lady who's kind of in lesbians with another disciple, there's another gay couple who are like insane and assholes but seem perfect for each other so 👍
anyway bingqiu is abusive but surprisingly not because of sqq, though I haven't forgotten him being creepy about his student this volume either. I can't believe svss was just proto-killing stalking this entire time. aside from glorifying abuse and victim-blaming, that's just so fucking boring. what a disappointment. for all their faults, mdzs and tgcf had legitimately magnificent scenes, complex relationships, interesting plots, heartfelt emotional moments, and compelling characters. no wonder this is the unfavorite of the batch - it's absolutely the worst in every way and it sounds like it doesn't get much better
if you're going to send me anon hate about this like 'your interest is problematic too' or 'let people enjoy things' just save yourself the time and block me first. I absolutely do not care about your opinion and I'll just delete it unless you're explaining something I've misunderstood in good faith. and even then I think so lowly of the fans of this novel I might just delete it anyway, after screenshotting it and sharing it with my mutuals to laugh at. get some fucking taste. that's all
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yantako · 2 years
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Ohh! Ohh! I have an idea that would be heartbreaking but cool! (Hope you don't mind) Ehem! Yandere dormleaders with an MC who ended up snapping and going insane because of them (*Cough* Also because of the cat being killed by them in the other request) they started to discover this when MC laughing over the cat's death with tears on their eyes. At first they didn't mind it until they see them strangle a poor innocent student from their dorm until they ran out of breath and died. They're trying to gain power over them (Because that's what Yanderes do) but MC is laughs out off when they try to hurt them with their magic which is haunting. And their family members get involved (Scenario: MC having one of their hands on Cheka's neck subtly as a threat to Leona that if he does something to them, they'll strangle and kill the kid)
Sorry about the brainrot, I was just craving for Yandere content where the victim wins 😅
This ask is referring to this post.
Oh my, I appreciate you dropping this request, thank you so much~
Oh come on, don't worry about the brainrot~ we're all probably brainrotted here too 😉
I, too, love it when MC fights back. POWER THROUGH THE YANDERES. GET READY TO GET THEIR ASSES KICKED. It can't just be one sided, ohohohoho.
Okay but as we all see this in fiction, let's try not to take such extremes irl. Teehee ;)~☆
Also, I have to write these in parts! It's getting difficult for me to write now as I have and will be extremely busy in this month...
Yandere MC that Snaps after tolerating the Yanderes.
ft. Riddle, Leona
Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3
Riddle Rosehearts
• He thinks he has you in his grasp but little did he know that you actually had some ulterior motives.
• The more rules he makes up, the more it drives you crazy. And, you knew exactly what is up when it kept applying to the separation of your cat. After all, you aren't naïve, stupid or gullible.
• The final straw was when Riddle killed the cat in front of you. He threw a tantrum when he found out that you had been secretly visiting it behind his back and this led to him getting eaten up by rage and jealousy.
• When he saw the tears seep out of your eyes, Riddle could feel a tinge of guilt crawl up in him. But, it was all for your good, right? He initially had wanted to comfort you until he saw the slight smile on your lips. He felt a chill down his spine, but he could not explain it. Why exactly were you smiling? Maybe, it is a coping mechanism...
• After maybe some time, he had thought you had finally understood him and had accepted him when you seemed so obedient around him.
• Then, he saw you strangling a poor dormmate with an aloof disposition. The struggling student seemed to be panicking, their magic trying to stop you from doing so but ended up being all over the place due to the pain they are feeling. Riddle immediately stops you from doing so by trying to pull your hands away. But, as you do not falter easily, he started to use his strong magic on you, trying to frighten you to stop. Instead of scaring you off, your grip tightens and the student fianlly stopped struggling and fell limp. That is when you let go.
• Riddle's face was one filled with horror and dread. He hadn't known that you were person with such capabilities. This is not something that he would have expected of you. Confused as he is, he could only mutter about the rules. And so, you replied that he had broken a rule. But, who knows what rule it was
• Of course, this made Riddle felt unsettled and started to keep a look out on you more. The previous incident was heavily covered up by Crowley himself and dubbed an accident. After all, who would believe that the kind and magicless student would strangle somebody to death?
However, as Riddle held a tighter leash on you, you showed no signs of doing anything as traumatising. He started to slowly believe that you had been momentarily possessed or controlled by someone else. After all, you're the person who helped him through his overblot and taught him to cherish himself!
• Everything was going well and smooth, as you still seem nice and obedient towards him, following his rules that he had made for you. Then, he decided that it would be great for you to meet his mother. And you followed him.
• What would catch him by surprise was that as his mother made you sleepover at his house, in the midst of the night, you carried a pillow and walked into her room.
• Riddle found you missing after awhile and tried to find you, locating you in his mother's room, pillow in hand in a ready stance.
• As he tried to stop you, he finally felt the regrets creeping up on him. He knew that his actions had consequences and he had created a monster worse than overblotting.
Leona Kingscholar
• The lion had finally had enough of it. He swiftly hunted his prey down and murdered it with a smile on his face, making sure that you spectate his grandiose hunt.
• As your eyes gazed towards it's limbs, Leona seemed to pick it up as a cue to dismantle them, further torturing you in the inside. What else can a magicless human like you do, right? The hopelessness you felt as you watched on slowly drove you to a path of insanity. And yet, the lion continues on, reveling in that crushed hopes of yours.
• Tears started to form as your vision blurs. However, your lips starts to creep up to a smile. Leona did perceive it as a surprise, seeing that you finally showed some form of emotions. Should he have felt happy about that? Now that is the true question he had to ask himself not just in the present, but also the future.
• One day, he caught you strangling a Savannaclaw student, but scoffed at the sight of it initially. What can a weak and magicless herbivore do? • That is well, until he sees the Savannaclaw student starts to foam from his mouth. Upon registering that the student is dying, Leona immediately used his fullest strength to pull you apart.
• When he confronts you about this situation in a serious manner, you adopted his typical smirk. Right back at him. And, of course, this pissed him off big time.
• Let's just say that the lion had some disciplining to do.
• After the disciplining, you had stayed low for a while. Well, at least enough for Leona to forget about the incident.
• One fine day, as Leona threatens you with the safety of your dearest friends, you walked towards Cheka and laid your hands around his shoulders. Cheka, being a naïve child, thought that you were giving him affection and had no second thoughts to your actions.
• However, from Leona's perspective, he could see your hand slowly creeping at Cheka's neck, which immediately reminds him of the strangulation incident. He started to growl and threatened you, a magicless human, by turning the accessories on your body all to sand.
• Without flinching, your face curved into a twisted smile as your hands gently wrapped around Cheka's neck. You knew exactly what you are doing.
• Leona has finally understood what it means to be fearful and is extremely torn on what to do. His entire body exuded alertness and he could feel his nerves going on full adrenaline.
• He could only think to himself, what exactly has he done?
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lacunafiction · 3 years
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Oh man J and R are trouble lmao love them, I was torn between the two while I was playing but then I saw the two for one options and I was like wait... is that a possible poly?? And then you confirmed and I was over the moon^^ Thank you soooo much for working so hard to create such an immersive story with such compelling characters :D Also how would the RO's react to being mistaken for a couple with the MC while in the crushing phase?
Hi Anon <3,
I relate to you. J and R can be appealing in different ways and those differences when contrasted against each other make them interesting, but this:
"I saw the two for one options"
^That made me grin to myself so much. I was hoping some of you would be like 👀 and then pleasantly surprised when seeing that your MC can have scenes with both.
Aw, you're welcome, friend! Thank you for taking the time to read and for being so kind about the demo and its characters. I think being a writer can kind of feel like you're sharing parts of yourself through your characters/plot/themes. I've been working on writing this for quite some time hence the word count, so sharing it made me a little anxious, but you all have been so great. :D
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Scenario: the MC and each RO went to buy some snacks for all five of you. The checkout lady was being a little nosy/nice, but mostly nosy.
Checkout lady: "Aren't you two a cute couple? Hmmm?"
B glances between you and checkout lady, trying to think of something to say, but that is hard to do when a flush is creeping up the back of their neck. Oh, are they blushing? "Uh," B swallows quickly, now very aware of the fact the attention is on them because a sound was made. "I'll take this too, please." A candy bar is smacked down on the counter top from the display case at the register; they don't even know what type it is or if it's milk chocolate. "That will be all, thanks."
S pretends not to have heard the comment made by the checkout lady, except she is holding the bag of chips hostage until you or they respond to her comment. "We're not," S mutters the correction a little dismissively, narrowing their eyes at the sad, little awww their words earn from the checkout lady. "But we do have somewhere to be, so we need to get going."
Later, in the parking lot, S apologizes to you for the lady overstepping and being nosy, watching you with a gentleness that makes it clear that they are not opposed to the idea, but it should be your business alone.
R goes along with it, flashing a self-satisfied smile, though their pale blue eyes have a silent warning to them at the same time. Only the one invasive comment should be made by the checkout lady or else there will be a problem. "It is actually our couple anniversary, which means that this-" a pack of candy is added to the order, "-should be included, no? Or does the store typically offer a discount on roses for couple anniversaries? I want both," R decides, unwilling to take 'no' for an answer.
The two of you make it out of the store and back into the parking lot with an unnecessary bundle of flowers and two types of candy that R let you pick out.
"Maybe we can get free dessert somewhere, if we pose as a couple?" R asks the question with some humor, but watches your reaction closely. "Let me know."
J says nothing, willing to let you decide how to handle the situation. They angle a little more towards you with an expression of tentative yet soft curiosity, but still refuses to agree or disagree with the checkout lady. There is no pressure or expectation to their expression, but if you know what to look for, you may be able to spot some fledgling hope.
The lady is now watching the two of you with rapt attention like its the series finale of her favorite drama, until an angry electronic beep sounds from the register at the lag in scanning items.
The two of you make it out of the store and back into the parking lot. J awkwardly apologizes to you, not specifying what it is for, before ducking back into their truck so you can deliver the the snacks to everyone else. The ride may be a little quieter than usual...
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I've got an idea for JR and may do it later, if you all ask it of me, but don't want this to get too long, atm.
Thanks for the ask!
[The masterpost with the 81k word demo: HERE. Reblogs of the masterpost are greatly appreciated. <3]
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