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duhragonball · 10 months

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Dragon Ball Super Manga Ch. 77-80

When I first read this, I was pissed because I’m sick of Vegeta just knowing everything that happened to every Saiyan before they were wiped out. I mean, he was a kid back then, how would he know Goku’s dad?

Then I finally remembered Vegeta grew up with Goku’s brother, and it suddenly made sense.

Okay, so let’s back up a bit and go over why Granolah wants revenge in the first place. About forty-odd years ago the Cerealians were invaded by Frieza’s forces, including a lot of Saiyans. I think they showed some other aliens in Frieza uniforms, but it’s mainly Saiyans using Oozaru forms. The Cerealians managed to neutralize the giant ape business, but the Saiyans were still strong enough to kill them all. There was also a small community of Namekians living on the planet Cereal, and they all died as well. There were only two survivors: The Namekian Monaito, who inherited the Cerealian Dragon Balls from the village elder, and Granolah, who found refuge in a building with his mother.

However, Granolah and his mom were discovered by a Saiyan named Bardock. He probably would have killed them on sight, except they happened to remind him of...

His wife and newborn son, whom he saw recently before this mission. Turns out Bardock was the one who came up with the name “Kakarot.”

So instead of killing the two Cerealians, Bardock tells the rest of his squad that he’s going to stay behind to take out any survivors. Then he scans the area and locates Monaito. He then takes Granolah and his mom to Monaito and asks him to take them in. Then he leaves, or he tries to, anyway.

Afterwards, Granolah grew up craving revenge on the Saiyans and Frieza, and he must have had no memory of Bardock’s act of mercy. Monaito’s known all along, and he kept it a secret this whole time, but he’s telling Granolah now because he wants him to stop his attack on Goku and Vegeta. And as he explains all this, he notices that Goku bears a striking resemblance to Bardock, and that’s when Vegeta explains that Bardock was Goku’s father.

But wait, if Bardock saved Granolah’s mother, then who killed her? Ah, well you see...

Shortly after Bardock saved those guys, the Heeters showed up. They worked as planet brokers under Frieza, so once Planet Cereal was vacant, they started making plans to sell it to the Sugarians. Naturally, they planned to overcharge the Sugurians and give Frieza a modest cut.

But then they happened across Bardock, Monaito, Granolah and his mom, and Bardock had to pretend that he was preparing to take Monaito prisoner to cover his tracks. Elec then shot Granolah’s mom just to simplify things. This infuriated Bardock, who then attacked the Heeters, which led to a fight with Gas. Bardock won that day, although Monaito didn’t get to see that part, for some reason.

So why didn’t Monaito tell Granolah about the Heeters? Why didn’t he say anything when Granolah started working for them?

Because Monaito knew he’d go off on some half-baked revenge scheme and get himself killed. This is probably why Monaito allowed Granolah to believe it was the Saiyans who did it, because once Frieza destroyed their home planet, there was no one for Granolah to go after, and he seemed to understand that Frieza was too strong. But that backfired on Monaito, because once Granolah found out about Frieza returning and some Saiyans still being alive, he... went off on some half-baked revenge scheme.

Anyway, Elec knew Granolah had talent, and since he never knew about the whole murdered-his-mom thing, Elec thought he could recruit him for his organization. After that, Monaito couldn’t tell him the truth, because Elec would kill them both.

Anyway, while all this exposition is happening, the Heeters find the Cerealian Dragon Balls and make their wish...

... which is basically the same wish Granolah made at the beginning of this arc, only they asked for Gas to become the strongest warrior in the universe. And since the wish was granted, that means Gas must be even stronger than Granolah is.

So they fight, and Granolah gets his ass kicked. Gas’ whole deal is that he uses energy constructs, sort of like Green Lantern but without the ring. This isn’t a new power he got, it’s something he’s always been able to do, and through much of this battle, he tries to win with the power he had before Elec made the wish.

Goku comes up with a plan to handle Gas. He wants Vegeta to eat his senzu bean and fight with Ultra Ego again, but Vegeta left the bean in his armor, which he took off while fighting Granolah. So first he has to go find it, and Goku will try to hold Gas off in the meantime.

But Vegeta gives the senzu bean to Granolah instead, insisting that he’s the one who wants revenge on these guys, so it should be him who settles things.

On his way to fight Gas, Granolah makes up with Oatmeel and puts him back on, assuring the computer than they’re a team. Awww.

So this is just Gas vs. Granolah, with Goku and Vegeta reduced to spectators. It’s an interesting choice to say the least. Gas should have the advantage on power, but Granolah stays competitive for a few reasons.

1) Gas doesn’t want to use his full strength, because he thinks he should be able to win with the power he had before the wish. That doesn’t work, so he eventually relents and uses his full power, but he wastes a lot of valuable time and energy this way.

2) Gas hasn’t fought much at all in this arc, mainly because Elec always wanted to keep him in reserve as a last resort. We know he fought Bardock decades ago (and lost), so he’s clearly gotten a lot stronger, even without that wish to beef him up, but he lacks experience with this power. Granolah had the same problem when he fought Goku and Vegeta, but now he’s got the advantage, because he... just got done fighting Goku and Vegeta. If he can beat those two, he can hold his own against Gas.

3) Granolah has his Cerelian perception, which makes his attacks far more precise than anything Gas can do.

It’s also possible that Gas’s heart just isn’t in this. He seems distant from the priorities of the other Heeters. When he has difficulty fighting, Elec removes the headband of teeth from his head. The other Heeter wear these like necklaces, and apparently they’re not decoaritive. Somehow they restrain their powers, and if you remove them, they become stronger, but also go berserk. Wonder Woman’s bracelets used to work this way. If she lost them, she’d go apeshit and kick everyone’s ass.

According to Monaito, the same thing happened when Bardock fought Gas forty years ago. Gas took off his headband thing and transformed into a gonzo monster. Bardock won somehow, but Gas is far more powerful now, and this time he attacks everybody. But Elec isn’t worried, because if Gas is truly the strongest in the universe now, then he ought to be able to regain control over himself.

And that’s exactly what he does. Not sure how he got his clothes back after he hulked out of them, but maybe the dragon gave him the Clothes Beam technique along with all the other upgrades.

And this brings me to the end of volume 18 of Dragon Ball Super. Volume 19 won’t be published in English until September, and I don’t want to wait that long, so I guess I’ll have to find the next several chapters elsewhere. So hopefully I can pick this up tomorrow...

Oh, right, Bardock.

So, Bardock showing up in this arc caused a lot of agitation in the fandom. I think this was mostly because of lingering frustration with Dragon Ball Minus retconning all the Bardock lore from the 1990 TV special. That, and there’s also a lot of Bardock Fatigue in the fandom, because the franchise has been shoehorning Bardock into every video game and merchandise possible. For many, working him into the DBS manga was just another crass marketing ploy.

Also, chapter 77 marks the moment when Goku finally learns about his father, which is a big deal for the character, but a milestone like that is always going to be controversial, because there will be fans who think the series was better off when Goku didn’t know. It’s like when Clark Kent told Lois he was really Superman. You can’t unring that bell.

I... don’t particularly care about any of that. For my part, Bardock’s a cool character, and I don’t mind seeing him or his cute wife. Anything Toei or Shueisha does with Goku’s parents is a fair play in my book. It’s no different from having Tien or Android 17 show up. But there seems to be this special status that’s been assigned to Bardock, where he’s either too cool or too overexposed, and that makes him off-limits. Well, I don’t buy into made-up rules like that.

I get the sense that there’s this edgelord contingent of the fandom that wouldn’t accept any version of Bardock short of him murdering Granolah’s mom and eating Monaito’s face or something. I don’t understand these fans, because the “Father of Goku” special is just Bardock getting the shit kicked out of him from start to finish. Tooru kicks him in the head, then he goes to Planet Meat and Dodoria beats him up, then he flies to Planet Vegeta and dies to Frieza. How is this guy a badass? Because he dominated Dodoria’s goon squad? Well Guldo could one-shot all of them, so why isn’t everyone fawning over Guldo then?

People got mad because Bardock said “tummy”, which isn’t a very badass word to use. You never hear Guldo say “tummy”, and he’s hard as nails. My thing is, if you imagine Sonny Strait delivering the line in that cool voice he uses, it sounds a lot more natural. Yeah, if he said it in the Krillin voice, it’d be goofy, which is why he doesn’t use the same voice for both characters.

I’d chalk it up to a translation issue, really. I mean, it’s probably accurate, but the people at Viz should have used different wording. Sometimes you have to punch up the dialogue, make it sound more like something Guldo would say.

The point I’m trying to make is that Bardock isn’t some sacred cow, and he’s also not a third rail that the franchise is forbidden from using. Dragon Ball Super brought back the Mafuba and the Grand Supreme Kai and the guy Zarbon kicked on Namek. Of course they were going to do something with Bardock. I’m more surprised that they didn’t just have him time travel to present-day Earth and live in Goku’s house for a while.

#dragon ball #dragon ball super manga #2023dbapocryphaliveblog #goku #vegeta #granolah #monaito #elec #gas #oil #macki #bardock #gine

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tinsil · 1 year

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recently played elechead on a friend's rec & immediately had to paint a little doodle bc it was fantastic please play elechead

#elechead #elec

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ladymiraclewings · 9 months

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Receiving the ability to fly and becoming a giant robot puppy.

Also, i think the reason of why Happy/Peps the dog is giant is due to Bubblegum using her wand on him (we see her riding Peps during this scene)

#super wings #season 5 #super pets #season 8 #elec #sw spoilers #jett #theodore #golden boy #bubblegum #mini jett

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theseawitch-1102 · 2 years

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Human black Frieza? HUMAN BLACK FRIEZA 🖤🤍🖤

Okey OKEY! FREEZER HAS A NEW TRANSFORMATION, HE HAS STOLEN THE COMPLETE REFLECTOR IN THE MANGA, AND IT BECAME MY OBLIGATION TO BRING TO LIFE BEFORE DEDICATED FOR HIS WORSHIP. So this is my little grain of sand xD HUMAN BLACK FREEZER Which we will call obsidian Frieza for aesthetic reasons xD. His outfit is entirely based on his new transformation and his new emo phase.

The fact that her hair is white and not dyed is also part of the aesthetic;; It's been really fun designing him this way, I think in the future (when the hell known as "final exams" releases me) I should also try to give him an outfit inspired by his Golden form, what do you think about it?✨💛

ALSO;;

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lolbitninjago3 · 10 months

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Future Dragon Ball Super Video

Synopsis:

Frieza, Turles, Slug, Broly, Cooler and Elec form an alliance to attain The Dragon Balls to wish to be granted immortality and eradicate the Z Fighters. Can the Z Fighters defeat these villains?

#youtube #dragon ball super #son goku #Vegeta #piccolo #son gohan #trunks #son goten #frieza #turles #lord slug #cooler #dbz broly #elec #dragon ball z

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idontthinkimokaymentally · 5 months

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Hello there Zero / Elec / Denkou fans.

#zero #elec #denkou #astro boy

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amartbee · 2 years

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elec.. elec....~

#elec #dragonball #dragonballz #dragonballsuper

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ralphidreamer · 1 year

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he loves you bro...

blorbos from my dnd game Felix Festivus (Felfest) belongs to me Elroy Ecselsior (Elec) bleongs to @dyn4micarts

(inspired by this text post)

#dnd doodle #text post meme #dnd ocs #my oc #friend oc #Felfest #Elec #Going Starlight #dnd drow #dnd human #they're really both a homebrew species but that's minutiae

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kkokiosk · 1 year

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Hi!

I just wanted to say I LOVE the way you draw the Dragonball Heeter family and the way you portray them. I'd never have thought about an Elec/Gas 'special' relationship (I have shipped Elec/Zarbon in stories) but you make it work so well, the connection they have is very special ❤️

In the UK we're only on Dragonball Super volume 17 and I used to find myself waiting for more to be released- but now I find myself waiting for your art instead!

Thank you so much for your kind words, because people said they hate my Heeters fan arts at other social media, that made me sad & frustrated these days. Your comment save me, thank you. 🙏🏼

I also ship Elec/Zarbon too, but only a few ideas in my head, I not draw comic for this ship yet, but after I grouped those ideas as a story, may be I'll draw a fan comic about them.

This Elec/Zarbon fan art is all I can show now. Enjoy!

#my art #fanart #yaoi #腐向け #Zarbon #Elec #ザボエレ

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milkyway247 · 1 year

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Finally got round to reading Dragonball Super #16 and discovered that the Heeters were working alongside Friezas army...

Heh... I wonder... ❤

#dragon ball #dbz #zarbon #elec #pretty money loving boys #I spy a good fanfic pairing...

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duhragonball · 10 months

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Dragon Ball Super manga ch.84-86

“Hey, honey, I got the crap beat out of me.”

“Well don’t just stand there! Go show the baby!”

“Oh yeah, good call. Hey, son. I got worked over pretty good.”

Currently, Goku and Vegeta are trying to stop Gas, who became nearly invincible thanks to a wish on the Dragon Balls. Their only chance is that Bardock once fought Gas before, and as Goku listens to the audio recordings on Bardock’s old scouter, he suddenly has a recollection of his infancy on Planet Vegeta, up to and including the moment when his parents shot him into space.

That scene is shown in here as well, but I think I like the above page the best, where baby Kakarot was just watching his mom putter around the house throughout the day. He didn’t see much of his family while he was in the incubation tank, but he saw some, and now he finally remembers it.

You might think the Bardock audio would be useless, since it didn’t provide any special insights into how to defeat Gas, past or present. Bardock just hung in there and kept sluggin’ away until he won. But that’s actually exactly what Goku needed to hear. As Whis tried to explain to Goku earlier, the key to mastering Ultra Instinct is not to devise some cool new transformation, or to imitate Whis’ angelic calm. Goku has to be himself so he can find his own path to Ultra Instinct mastery. Hearing his father’s voice, talking about victory and survival above all else, that reminds Goku of who he is, and who he’s always been.

And Vegeta needed to hear it too. He had been trying to use Destruction energy like Beerus, who had advised Vegeta to cast aside his guilt over the sins of the Saiyan people. Now he’s finally figured out how to do that properly. Before, he was just acting like he no longer cared about the Saiyans’ crimes. Now, he finally accepts that their crimes are not his responsibility.

So when Gas finally returns to Planet Cereal to settle things, he finds Goku and Vegeta are ready for him. This time, they fight him together, and their Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego forms are much more focused than before.

Elec tells the Heeters that he expected something like this, and it doesn’t matter that these two power-ups gave Granolah some trouble, since Gas is stronger than Granolah. But Goku and Vegeta don’t give a fuck. Screw the odds, they just want to kick some ass.

Let me skip a bunch of this fight. I feel bad about doing that, since the action sequences are probably the best feature of Toyotaro’s art. But I’m here to talk about the plot first and foremost. Basically, Vegeta sets up a beam struggle with a big Hakai blast, and while Goku pushes it, Vegeta tries to flummox Gas at the same time. It doesn’t quite work, but Vegeta still manages to hang in there, because Ultra Ego feeds on the damage Gas dishes out. So it becomes a question of whether Gas can take down Vegeta before he surpasses Gas in power.

Gas tries to solve that dilemma by killing him all at once, but good luck one-shotting Vegeta. Of course, eventually Vegeta does fall, because Gas hits like a speeding truck, and Vegeta can only take so much punishment. But while he’s fighting Gas, it gives Goku a chance to figure out how to optimize his UI.

I should really write about this in a separate post, but it seems like Goku is just sort of inventing a new form specifically for the way he plans to use Ultra Instinct here. With the silver-haired form, he could use it well, but it only lasted so long, and he had to keep his emotions in check. Now, he’s using this other version that looks pretty close to his base form, but he can use his turbulent emotions and Ultra Instinct at the same time. And this freaks Gas out, not because of Goku’s methodology, but because the result has him looking a lot like Bardock did right before he kicked Gas’ ass forty years ago.

To be clear, Goku always looks like Bardock all the time. The resemblance isn’t what got in Gas’ head. It’s the confidence Goku found in this moment, where he’s totally in synch with who he is and what he’s trying to do.

By contrast, Gas had some pride in himself as a warrior, but all he ever does is what Elec tells him to do, in the name of some grander agenda for the Heeters, which I doubt Elec has ever deigned to explain to him. And that plan involved Gas surrendering his warrior pride to get a boost from the Dragon Balls, so his morale is shot, even if he won’t admit it.

Sure, Gas may be stronger than Goku... no, wait, maybe he’s not. As Goku fights, he seems to get just a teeny edge over Gas. It’s not much, and it won’t last long, but it’s just like Vegeta warned Granolah earlier. The rankings don’t mean much in the long run. Strongest, second strongest, it all changes with the weather.

But then Elec gives Gas another scolding/pep talk, and that reawakens Gas and he starts to fight even harder. Also his body looks messed up. Macki and Oil begin to get concerned, even as Gas seems to have Goku on the ropes.

But then Granolah shows up to make the save. So somehow, Monaito managed to heal all three of them up during the 20 minutes while Gas was away. That’s not hard to believe, except Monaito kept complaining about how he could heal people very fast, and now he seems to be improving.

Anyway, Goku agrees to keep Gas busy while Granolah charges up his full power for a single attack. You know the drill.

Goku has trouble, but fortunately, Vegeta gets a second win and helps buy more time. Then Oil and Macki try to jump in but Monaito stops them... with the power of hypnotism! Well, whatever works.

But it still isn’t quite enough, so then Goku activates his Stand, or whatever that giant Goku thoughtform is supposed to be. It’s the same thing he used against Moro, so I guess it makes sense. Anyway, he grabs Gas and chucks him into the sky so Granolah can get a clear shot, and Oatmeel helps him aim, since his eyes are still hurt from before. The power of teamwork!

Granolah fires, and it looks like one of those classic anime blasts where the bad guy disintegrates into nothing, but instead Gas falls back to the ground, and Granolah explains that he didn’t kill him, because he’s decided to forsake revenge. Then he apologizes to Goku and Vegeta for the trouble he’s caused them, and it looks like that just about wraps things up....

... or does it?

#dragon ball #dragon ball super #2023dbapocryphaliveblog #goku #vegeta #granolah #bardock #gine #monaito #gas #oil #macki #elec

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tinsil · 1 year

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i was so happy when i found the palette swaps in elechead that were references to tower of heaven and downwell

#we love short pixel art color-limited indie games!#tower of heaven #elechead #downwell #eid (tower of heaven)#elec #welltaro

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suiciderape · 8 months

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yea i dont give a fuck! kpop idol is cool as fuck 𝖍𝖊𝖑𝖑 𝖓𝖆𝖍 𝖇𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍 i went to barbie land yall was disco'ng with chak! lord chak! oh shit a moving pyramid *wack a mole* *wack a home* damn n8xon went to a punk convention *wack a mole* *wack a home* level 10 maney?! heuahahaha bitch we are thee ones with the broken skateboarding jaws heahaha i laughed i cried i met jazelle shes a cunt ew! my dad is famous i could give 2 fucks what a mixed girl says im full south korean and i have black ppl hair aw! living death insitute thatz not a stadium in france? hahaha no?! im next level fucking my dad to not get my ass beat as long as it doesnt feel weird or talk to minhee jang heauahaha no i was on neptune totaltrash didnt talk txt ew ur weird im a kpop idol manga and my father i think its time to 808s heartbreak hahaha fuck nega nah i dont even remember ew keke palmer forced my bf to ko cream and keeho doesnt even know santa claus is about to rape me nvm! sprawl

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