#Lumity critical

[peacesmovingcabaret]

So what do you dislike about lumity from the owl house? It seems to be way better as a romantic subplot than most shows can do. Like there’s no wheel-spinning or dragging it out, they’re in a different place relationship wise in each episode they interact in, until they properly become a couple. No rushing into it and trying to make a dysfunctional garbage couple work, no dragging it out for an obligatory “hero getting the girl” ending.

(Sorry for the late response. This was sitting in my inbox for a bit and I hadn’t seen it)

For starters, I don’t dislike lumity. I’m neutral at best, indifferent at worst.

Though I admit I kinda liked it back in season one. The popular, elitist witch developing a crush on the human girl who mysteriously shows up on the isles was a cute concept.

But by season 2, I was losing interest. Suddenly it feels like Amity’s entire personality was just devoted to being Luz’s girlfriend. Also doesn’t help that almost the entire foundation of their relationship is built on Luz’s hyper fixation with her Azura book. If not for that there would be no relationship.

Then by season 3, I’m over them. Amity has been pretty much reduced to Luz’s love interest. All manner of personality that set her apart in the beginning mostly dissolved. And Lumity was just “queer rep in a kids show”.

And I’m gonna have to disagree with you on that one thing. This is VERY rushed. We get a small amount of build up to Amity’s developing feelings towards Luz, however Luz kinda just jumps into it. We don’t get her inner thoughts, don’t get her questioning her feelings or exploring her attraction. It’s just, “Hey Amity likes me, we should start dating!” And then that’s what happens. I know people hate when writers drag out romances when we already know that they’re gonna end up together. But sometimes it’s okay to give your characters time to grow before making them into a couple.

And it’s not just Lumity, pretty much all the canon romances on this show suffers the same writing problem. Only difference is, Lumity is the main ship so it gets more screen time.

Now obviously there are gonna be people who don’t feel the same way and will disagree with me. That’s fine. I didn’t make this post to tell people that they’re wrong for liking it or that they don’t understand it. I just wanted to get my input.

And honestly, I feel the same way about a majority of romances in a lot of cartoons. So I’m not singling Lumity out.

#toh critical #lumity critical #I think that’s the right tag #the owl house

[mdhwrites]

The Lumity Kiss is Bad

Which is really weird when the actual, physical kiss is pretty much textbook perfect. However, this isn't a quick kiss or a throwaway one. It's the BIG kiss in a romantic subplot. The second half of the resolution we got in Knock Knock Knocking with the confession and the show frames it that way. As such... The kiss is more than just the kiss and it's every element around the physical action that ruins it, making even the textbook nature of it somehow flawed.

Let's start with the positive though. Now I've actually said I don't like how the kiss is animated and I do kind of stick to that. If you go to the 57 mark of this clip of the kiss, you can literally watch as Amity's face slides back to being on model.

And kind of like a lot of moments in the show with big budget animation, that's not a HUGE issue but it is deciding that frame rate and smoothness is king for good animation without considering how jarring it is to watch in the show and if it actually fits within the style of the show. I find TOH fights WAY more enjoyable to watch when isolated by themselves because of this because they aren't in an uncanny valley where they feel like a well produced fan animation than something official and I do still hold to that with the kiss itself. I just wish I could better describe why.

BUT! I said I had a positive to talk about and I do. For three seconds, the scene is just right. Luz says the date will be perfect before then Amity, looking at Luz, the person who the mere thought of was comforting her and who she's been worried about for a week, decides to go in and kiss her. Her hands are gentle as they take Luz's face and she leans in. Luz is shocked that this is happening but then quickly gives into the bliss and holds Amity's hand in her own. It is sweet, quick but incredibly impactful. It is a textbook example of how to do a kiss that one half of the pair didn't see coming and the couple are meant to be deeply in love. It's nothing new but doing the classic spot on is never a bad thing.

Those three seconds die the second Luz says, "Crikey," let alone the fact that it's in an Australian accent. And don't get me wrong: You do not have to make a kiss like this sappy. I Was A Teenage Exocolonist has a romance route with a very clinical, scientific person and when you two get together, she snarks at you if you ask what next. That I should know her well enough to know she has a logical decision deduced from what is correct for the situation.

"So are you going to kiss me or am I going to kiss you?"

Great. Amazing. Silly and not taking itself too seriously but above all else IN. CHARACTER.

I'm sorry to break it to you all but Luz is NOWHERE NEAR "Lol, random" enough for this. Hell, in both this scene and Looking Glass Ruins, the writers point out how Amity is driven to act on emotion and on what her brain pulls her towards more than Luz, especially on this topic. It's why Amity is ALWAYS the one to do the firsts in their relationship. Meanwhile, Luz's only times where she blurts out something random is "Snorses" which had a clear correlation to what was happening and "You damn rat!" which also was explicitly tied to the stimuli causing it.

What stimuli here makes her go "Crikey" and turn FUCKING AUSTRALIAN!? The only reasonable excuse I could even think of is to say she's a huge Crocodile Dundee fan but Luz was born theoretically somewhere around 2006, literally TWENTY YEARS after that movie came out and I don't feel like Camila would push something like that for her to watch or really fits in with most of what else Luz seems to enjoy.

Fucking BAZINGA would have been more in character because at least nerds still mock Big Bang Theory. Other options for a random word or reference would have been "Excelsior!" or "Wahoo!" as she jumps into the air like the hyperactive gremlin she's supposed to be.

Neither one would work though in general because the tone and framing of the scene isn't right for a joke, let alone this sort of joke. Part of what makes the kiss feel so justified in this moment is the setup... Though only on Amity's side. I'll get to the problems with Luz's setup for the kiss in a bit.

Amity has thought Luz might be dead for a week. She hasn't heard back from her, she's scared, distressed and strung out. She wants things to go back to simpler times like in Season 1 when things weren't so scary. She's emotional and is actively using the thought of Luz as a way to comfort herself. Then, out of nowhere, Luz comes in, promising romance, better times and safety, all while proving she herself is safe.

It is perfect setup in a story like this for the first kiss. Honestly, they could have gone one step farther and mentioned that they haven't even had a big kiss but they went with the missing out on the date element, which works just as well. It's nothing new but it's correct. It's good. However... It's also genuinely serious. Like this is effectively Amity laying out exactly why she likes Luz. The strength she gets from Luz. Why this relationship is important to her. It is great setup for an "I love you," or a first kiss.

It is a REALLY bad setup for a joke. However... as bad Luz's joke is... Amity's is actually worse.

"I can't believe I just did that!"

Yeah and I can't believe that in this moment that should show how far Luz and Amity have come as a couple, the strength and joy they've gained after being a couple for half a season, you're literally reacting the EXACT same way as you did when you kissed her on the cheek back in Looking Glass Ruins. It doesn't matter that you have nicknames now. That you two keep twirling each other about. Have had deep conversations about Luz's pain while Luz ignored yours. *eye twitch at Reaching Out* And it doesn't matter that in this moment, you have EVERY justification to be confident in this choice. To simply happy and overcome with emotion that your partner is simply ALIVE.

Her response should have been, "I'm so happy to see you," not literally going back an entire half a season for a cheap, repeat gag.

To be fair though, while this entire scene, from the moment it cuts to Amity talking to Emira and Edric, is obviously paying reverence to how big of a deal this is and trying to make the kiss be correct... The jokes are in keeping with how quite literally the rest of the episode treats Lumity. Remember, this episode starts with Luz claiming she'd like to pull a romantic rescue but deciding to opt out because despite having literally nothing to do with the plan, and likely being detrimental to how stealthy they need to be because fewer numbers are better here, she would rather be prepared to help Eda and King than actually break her girlfriend out from being grounded by the EC. This is despite, in Luz's own words, "You know me. I'll always choose the chaotic option." That... Isn't a good starting point.

Then the rescue is comically easy and Luz doesn't actually do any of it. It's all Gus, Willow and Hunter. Luz just gets to take the credit and get the big hero kiss, which this ABSOLUTELY IS. Amity was a damsel in distress for Luz to save, complete with a kiss for doing so. That's also without getting into how pathetically easy the save is. Like Willow doesn't even have to try to bury one dude and an abomaton ALIVE under ground. Frankly, I'm amazed that guard is still alive.

It's just a lot of stuff way too easy to be leading into what is the final payoff for your romantic subplot, let alone one that has taken up a THIRD of your story so far.

The rest of the episode isn't any better though. This should be an episode about Lumity. It starts with talking about Amity in trouble. Then it saves Amity and does the big, climactic kiss... But we haven't gotten Luz's side of the relationship yet, have we? We haven't gotten her speech like we did Amity's. We haven't gotten anything to show her deeper care for Amity and while Amity is talking about Luz's quirks and her kindness and the strength she gets from her, Knock Knock Knocking is really the closest we've gotten with "Awesome and pretty" which is vague and shallow. This is your chance to fix that.

There's even a perfect moment. Odalia threatens their relationship and says Luz isn't worthy. Have Luz agree... But then say it doesn't matter what her or Odalia think. That she is lucky to have someone as smart, dedicated, and passionate while having a sweet center that despite all her fears, anytime she's with Amity, she knows Amity is going to give her the chances she needs. Is going to understand what she's trying to say instead of looking at how weird she is and rejecting her. Take ten, twenty seconds to do that... While in the background, we can see Gus obviously thinking about something, glance at Luz, and then start working on a spell circle.

The shield comes down, get the dramatic reveal of Alador and then cut back to where Hunter is holding Amity's hand. Same effect as the show but allow Gus to make the plan of his own volition because he wants to protect his bro and this was the best he could think of. He thought Luz would be more capable of defending herself due to glyphs and that Belos was less likely to kill her than Hunter. Also, it was in a panic and the best he could think of.

INSTEAD, we get Luz ignoring Amity's problems with her parents for the THIRD FUCKING TIME and focusing on the white boy in the cast instead. In fact, I don't think Lumity talk to each other ONCE after the kiss scene. The focus is too much on the plot and Amity's angst and I could do an entire blog about how little Luz actually engages with Amity's character arc and plot elements. It makes it real rough analyzing old episodes for Amity's arc when you realize how much Amity jumps in her arc without almost any input from Luz on elements that are suddenly gone.

And this would be OKAY... But it makes the kiss feel like... Well, honestly like a gag. We're at a point in the show after all where very little of it is trying to be funny. Even Gus and King are being taken seriously now and Amity will be a joke for most of S3, especially in Thanks to Them. Even her standing up to her mother is lightly mocked by Alador sounding like he's just saying sweet lies in telling Amity that she was close to breaking the barrier. It's WEIRD the treatment of it when it has consumed so much time and the framing of the actual moment is so serious.

And I want to be clear: I am happy they kissed. I am not against this because it's two girls or anything like that. I'd criticize this no matter the gender, race, etc. of any element here because it is just flatly bad romance writing. The only parts that function are either cut off at the knees or the one part that has the characters too silent to actually harm the moment.

And I think the last thing any of us wanted for Lumity was for it to be treated like a joke.

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[showtoonzfan]

Lumity is a good ship, but I will admit it has its flaws. My biggest problem is that it didn’t really get enough buildup, particularly with Amity. She never really got a moment to realize that she was in love with Luz, or at least we as the audience never got to see it. I honestly disliked how she was blushing at the episode of “Wing it like Witches”, because by then we know she’s crushing and it was honestly just….too early to do that. Sure, we may have seen maybe 2 instances where Luz had a positive impact on Amity, but to go from that to her immediately crushing and blushing felt forced to me, in fact, I don’t think Amity herself got the proper redemption or development towards her from becoming a mean top class stern student to a softer girl. The moment she starts blushing and falls in love with Luz, that’s mainly when her character does a turnaround, and she’s 100% good. At first I praised the first few episodes of season 1 since once Amity was on good terms with Luz, she didn’t immediately turn good, she was still strict and even hung out with the other powerful witches at school, but even that didn’t really last long. The show made me feel like Amity wouldn’t have changed had she NOT fallen in love with Luz and that’s honestly a problem. While it was nice to see Amity’s insecurities and wanting to help AFTER her and Luz officially became a couple, as well as her personal stuff with her family, the buildup to her falling in love and changing felt rushed. And yes, I know the show got shortened, I’m just putting my opinion out there. Like I said, I don’t think the ship is bad, but it could have been better.

#toh criticism #toh critical #lumity critical #toh lumity #the owl house #the owl house thoughts #keep in mind I haven’t finished the show yet #still on season 2 but almost done #the owl house critical #the owl house critique #amity blight critical #unrelated

[mcfuckity]

I know a few people who dislike huntlow and say stuff like:"this ship is super rushed, hunter has to work on himself, he doesn't understand romance and it is the last thing he needs" but they ship huntric and lumity🥴like you dislike huntlow for being rushed and hunter not being able to understand romance but you ship hunter and edric who interacted only once 🤡 something tells me those are not the reasons why those people dislike this ship, but completely for different ones🫣 and they are afraid to admit. Again i don't have problem with people who dislike huntlow but i have problem with people who drag huntlow down meanwhile shipping edric and lumity. Again every person has a right to dislike or like a ship. And what is so interesting that the majority of people never brought these excuses for amity when they shipped so much lumity and attacked everybody who wasn't a fan of this ship. And also unlike amity hunter didn't have that much problems with morality, didn't harm intentionally willow and gus, even when he got them captured he still tried to fix mistake. He actually owned up to his mistakes and had to learn it the hard way. Meanwhile amity wasnt addressed for her awful behaviour and shifted the responsibility of her actions on to her parents. And she didnt even try to reconcile with willow. She suddenly became a "sofgtie" out of nowhere without getting called out and only around luz. I am sorry folks but this is not a proper redemption. People also dislike willow and gus for not being plot relevant when its clearly writers fault for not giving them episodes to shine, and it is not as infuriating as amity who got a lot of episodes dedicated to her but still ending as a "girlfriend" who doesnt do much. No offense to amity stans and they literally whine all the effing time like why people dont talk about amitys trauma, when it was the only thing discussed during s1-s2, as if all these talks and fanarts about amity wasnt enough. They always bring up amity literally all the time. 

I agree and I’ve discussed this before. I recently haven’t said anything because I want the whole show to be over before rewatching it and having a retrospective to see if anything changes. I have talked about this before though.

I adore Huntlow/Winter and I love that they are still separate and unique characters while being together. I hate the stupid excuse that Hunter isn’t “ready for a relationship” because it makes no sense. A traumatized kid just found people who makes him feel seen, heard, and loved. He also got a crush on someone who ALSO experienced mistreatment and cares so much about him. I can see why Hunter would like Willow and vice versa. I CAN’T see how Luz would like Amity since she’s BEEN bullied and she SAW Amity bully Willow. I have no idea why Luz was all in Amity’s face.

The popular fanon ships are so frustrating because they’ll just ship Hunter w a yt person with the same logic he got with Willow for.

I haven’t seen any Willow and Gus hate but they were literally sidelined to make Amity look good because they know that she didn’t have a real redemption. It makes no sense that Amity got so much screentime just to keep reiterating herself as Luz’s gf but never have Willow and Gus be there for Luz to reiterate their friendship. Hell, even in s1 and Amity was barely there, the fans literally favored her and made so much fanart of her replacing Willow and Gus/ making them background support to lumity. It was literally just “tomato Amity” and “idiot Luz” fanart flooding my feeds. At least Huntlow art has character. Amity needs nothing else.

Then the show damn near goes out the way to have Lumity on one side and Emerald Trio on the other with sprinkles of Amillow interactions to be like “See? They’re all friends 😇”. It’s getting tired fr.

#long post #the owl house #toh #toh critical #toh criticism #toh opinion #hunter deamonne #gus porter #willow park #luz noceda #toh hunter #amity blight #huntlow #toh winter #lumity critical #anti lumity #ask #long ask #toh 2 #toh 3

[mebssann]

Amity pestered Principal Bump enough times that he finally allowed Hexside to have a student council

#this was an excuse to draw Amity and Matt as President and Vice President student councils respectively #listen #Amity is obviously a responsible student and dedicated enough to make this happen that she was labeled as 'obssessed' #with making a student council ok #and Matt is canonically a great leader I WILL NOT TAKE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM #the owl house #Amity Blight #Boscha #Luz Noceda #Willow Park #Gus Porter #Mattholomule #Lumity #fanart #digital art #my art

[flower-boi16]

Can we talk about the fact that TOH, a kid's show that aired on the Disney channel, has an unironically a better gay/sapphic relationship with Lumity than either of these "adult shows"?

Lumity is an incredibly well-developed ship; Its gradually built up throughout season 1 and season 2A and they don't drag the shit out of it, they are just incredibly cute together. The ship isn't abusive and toxic...

...unlike Stolitz, which is a very toxic ship where the victim is portrayed as the abuser and the abuser is framed as just an UwU soft boy. Another thing about Lumity that makes it a good relationship is the fact that Amity is her own character; she isn't solely defined by Luz, her relationship with Luz is an important part of her character, sure, but she still has a lot of development in the series that makes her a well-developed, three-dimensional character.

Compare that to Chaggie, which while not nearly as bad as Stolitz, still has issues, that being how Vaggie's character entirely revolves around Charlie, she doesn't have any real development outside of that. There is the stuff about her being a fallen angel but we'll have to see what the show does with it to make a full judgment, but the reveal that she is a fallen angel feels too rushed to give her depth.

Vaggie doesn't feel like her own character, she feels like she's completely defined by her relationship with Charlie, and she doesn't have that much of a character outside of that. Amity meanwhile, is her own character beyond her relationship with Luz, even in Season 2 where people say that supposedly Amity became just "Luz's girlfriend", she still had that whole conflict with her parents.

Lumity is infinitely superior to both of these ships guys.

Then again TOH blows HH/HB out of the water in every single aspect so...

#hazbin hotel critical #helluva boss critical #vivziepop critical #helluva boss criticism #hazbin hotel criticism #spindlehorse critical #spindlehorse criticism #the owl house #toh #lumity #amity blight #luz noceda #anti stolitz #anti stolas #anti charlie x vaggie #anti chaggie #vivziepop criticism

[sepublic]

“Luz and Amity KISS!!” to just “Luz and Amity”;

Fuck you Disney even when capitalizing on queer rep you shortened you still censor it.

#the owl house #disney #disney critical #lumity #censorship

[who-is-this-weirdo]

I'm putting the credits here but I'm not sure about putting them elsewhere because I'm scarred Helluva/Hazbin stans will harass anyone who's fanart is featured here just because their art was used for a HB critical meme

Alador X Darius, Jet X Zuko, Azula X Ty Lee, Luz X Amity, Juno X Haru and Rainbow Fash X Apple Jack are all official images

Sunburst X Flashsentry by Dingobreath on Devientart

Tallstar X Jake by Roseshards on Devientart

N x Touya/Hilbert/Black by Silvykinesis

Scp 076 (Able) X Agent redacted by @076-silly

Jambu X Pineapple by Eskoniss on Twitter

Glacier X Blaze by @meroaw

Selene/Moon X Lillie by IKHC on Devientart

Mothwing X Leafpool by @climbdraws

#helluva boss critical #flashburst #isshushipping #aladarius #jetko #talljake #jamapple #the Able X Agent [redacted] one doesn't really have a name #but the artist I and other call the agent dimitrov #so Dimable ou Ablov ? #glacier x blaze #Glaze I think ? #Tyzula #moonlilyshipping #Mothpool #lumity #Juno x Haru #appledash

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

spop fans: *sees literally any sapphic ship*

spop fans: omg they're just like catra and adora!!

spop fans: *sees any redeemed villain/antagonist*

spop fans: omg that's literally catra they would be besties!

#👏 vicait and c//a are not the same 👏 #👏 lumity and c//a are not the same 👏 #👏 bubbline and c//a are not the same 👏 #stop comparing healthy couples to your trashfire of a ship thank you #spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #she ra #anti spop #anti catra #anti catradora #anti c//a #antic//a #anticatra #anticatradora

[spopsalt]

Here's a shoutout to healthy animated yuri ships!

Friendly reminder not be like these ships!

#spop critical #spop salt #anti c//a #anti catra #antic//a #spop criticism #spop crit #anti spop #spop discourse #anti catradora #lumity #bubbleline #halerivy #anti meiyuzu #anti citrus

[daystarvoyage]

An Amity Chapter Of My TOH MOVIE preview is coming up, yes I did justice like the rest of the cast, but yeah I’ll be making a lot of adjustments with the story & lore soon, so an update is coming soon in may.

And yes She is Going to be written well, She's gonna be badass & she's gonna show a more vulnerable side we didn't get to see,

More info during momocon.

#the owl house #lumity #hunter toh #luz noceda #huntlow #lunter #toh gus #toh amity #toh #youtube #toh hot takes #toh criticism #toh critic #toh fanart #owl house #hexsquad #camila noceda #toh luz #gus porter #gusporter #toh willow #amillow #huntmity #goldenlight #vee noceda #huntceda #hunter deamonne #hunter wittebane #caleb wittebane #toh belos

[voids-voyager]

I have no clue why they didn't make Amity more akin to a rival character instead of a bully. Because it would have solved A Lot of problems in regards to Amity and Willow, and Lumity becoming a thing.

The thing is that Lumity feels Super Weird at the start when Luz is trying to befriend Amity long before the girl shows any remorse for bullying Willow and making up for it. And it's not something easily brushed off when Amity is introduced being condescending and a dick to Willow. The bullying isn't something of the past, it's still going on.

Willow comes off as an afterthought in this dynamic, when she's the one who's been wronged by Amity the most. Their arc never feels like it resolves itself either, it just kinda peeters out.

If you've watched Little Witch Academia, Diana is who I think Amity should have emulated more. Diana is the top student at the school, she's stern and no-nonsense, a bit stuck-up, she comes from a prestigious family, she gets in conflict with the protagnoist, Akko, not because of bullying but because they have very different personalities and butt heads because of it. Akko considers Diana her rival, but this is one-sided on her part.

Willow and Amity could still have been friends in the past, but Amity instead pointedly ignores Willow's existence after their friendship has ended. She doesn't call out her friends for bullying Willow(that would make it seem like she cares) but she doesn't participate or encourage it. She's still not a good person, she still has to apologise to Willow, but changing their relationship from 'active bullying' to 'pretending Willow doesn't exist' would do a lot going forward for them I think. Still terrible, but more palatable in my eyes.

#the owl house #toh critical #i guess? #better safe than not #luz noceda #amity blight #willow park #lumity #honestly one-sided rivalry could have easily been part of the early pre-lumity dynamic #with luz still seeing TBI as a fantasy considering amity to be her rival because in stories like these the protagonist always has a rival #but it would lead to luz struggling to see amity as a person beyond the 'rival' trope #like less we forget this girl had no friends before coming to TBI #so she'd struggle communicating with amity outside of how this is 'supposed' to go #or how it went in the azura books between azura and hecate #but their friendship doesn't need a big event or battle to form and it actually complicates things instead #and just like in canon lost in language is what helps luz see more of the real amity and it's what begins the connection between them

[puppyeared]

SHAKIBG AND SOBBING

#the owl house season toh 2b #clouds on the horizon #toh spoilers #the owl house spoilers #lumity #YES I REDREW LUZS I LOVE MY WIFE FACE. NO I WILL NOT BE TAKING CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM #HOW WE FEELING LUMITY NATION #THE KISS WAS SO WELL ANIMATED TOO I. AND THE FUCKING DATE PROMISE AWWAAWAAWAAW #my art #myart #fanart #the owl house fanart #toh fanart #the owl house season 2 #toh 2b #toh luz #toh #the owl house #clouds on the horizon spoilers #SOMEBODY HOLD MEEEEE

[stanlunter]

Why Amity is a bad character

Not my post, Ive just translated it, but I can't agree more

This can be called not even a hate, but a perplexity, since Amity as a character is not integral with us. It's like a solid plot hole hastily glued into a ready-made idea of the series. Let's take it in order.

In the first episodes with Amity, she is shown as a bully (when she poured shit on Willow), always competing with everyone's nerd (remember the episode where she couldn't stand that at least someone was better than her in abominations?) and in general, something like a kind of Draco Malfoy from the world of the Owl House. Even the twins Edric and Emira Blite quietly disliked her, as they considered her an arrogant reptile, shitting other students out of boredom. And so it was, in fact.

But then they started showing us Amity from the other side, and then the first inconsistencies began. In the series with the library, where Amity read books to little witches and other fabulous creatures, it struck me for the first time - like, all this time, Amity had a soft nature hiding under a mask of arrogance, but her brother and sister didn't even know about it and considered her just a harmful bastard? Okay, okay, let's say. But then we learn from Amity's memories that she was always good and Willow left only at the request of overbearing parents who were against their friendship. I'm sorry, what? I remind you that at her first appearance, Amity mocks Willow when no one is around, clearly enjoying it herself. Who forced her to do nasty things then?? And anyway, if Amity had a kind nature from the very beginning, why would she mock and laugh at others? She would have walked around with an arrogant look and that was it. My parents told me not to be friends with witches of a different status, and not to bully everyone who doesn't like them.

And after Luz and Amity start dating, Amity transforms incredibly radically and quickly. And I'm not talking about the hairstyle (which was much better in the original version, imho). She completely changes her worldview, her behavior, her plans for life, after all. And everything would be fine, but... These events take place in one summer. One summer, Carl! In one summer, an arrogant witch who loves to bully others, trying to be the best at everything, dreaming of becoming part of the imperial coven, turns into her absolute opposite. And do you know what I can't understand about such transformations? Footing. What is it like here? Okay, Amity fell in love with Luz, but why did she suddenly change ALL her principles for her? After all, she had somehow justified her dreams, her goals for herself before? Before, she really wanted to be the best, to join the imperial coven. Or how did it happen according to the creators - the evil mom ordered Amity to wish for certain things and zombified her, and as soon as the good Luz came, Amity immediately realized everything in the world and was filled? The same Hunter is shown much more realistically, we see he has an incredibly strong motivation to change, and then he doesn't do it in two episodes.

Damn, how much Amity doesn't fit into the story can be seen by the end of the first season, when we have an awesome important event and the main characters have to risk their lives to rescue Ida from captivity. And Amity did it in this fucking important episode in the finale... absolutely nothing. A few episodes before that, we were shown how Amity falls in love with Luz, worries about Luz, is already crazy about Luz, but when Luz risks his life in the center of events, Amity just lies at home with his injured leg and watches everything on magic TV. Like, seriously, man?? They didn't even bother to put it in the plot. Logically, she should be one of the main characters, but in fact she looks like a typical cardboard "girlfriend of the main character", like helpless half-naked girls from films about some Indiana Jones (I have nothing against Indiana, but the girls of gg in those days were really mostly cardboard in the background). In the following seasons, there is a place for Amity, but it doesn't get any better - she continues to look cardboard, a girl who can only scream about her love for Luz. Who gave up all her goals for the sake of Loot, but she didn't come up with new ones, and now her whole life revolves around Luz, while Luz, like gg, quietly lives her life and solves her problems. In the last episode, she has a job, she succeeded her father and works with abominations, but kamon, did it ever mention before the third season that she wants to take over his profession?? No. Starting dating Luz, she loses her personality, and all that remains of her is the delight at the sight of Luz and perfectly correct conscientious decisions, which do not go well with the image of Amity from the first series.

And it's impossible to call it Amity hate, because if you hate, then who exactly? We have three completely unrelated witches: The arrogant bully Amity, the kind Amity, Who Suffered From Evil Parents/Friends'/"Substitute An Excuse" and finally A Madly In Love Amity Without Her Own Goals And Principles. Which one of them to focus on, speaking of the image of Amity, is not in my heart. And yes, it's kind of sad to realize that at the beginning of the first season, Amity had a normal image that had chances for good development, a gradual realization that she treats people incorrectly, a GRADUAL transformation from a spoiled pest into a good friend for Luz and company, into a good secondary character. Even with falling in love with Luz, it was possible to do something interesting - to show how Amity rushes between two fires, tries to date Luz without quarreling with her family, wants to combine an affair with Luz and joining the imperial coven, eventually realizes that this is a failed idea and suffers from having to quit either a family and a dream, or a loved one... And as a result, all the potential was poured into the toilet for the hyper-accelerated development of a "serious romance for life" between two 14-year-olds. And Amity just follows Luz like a goat on a string, completely changing her life and her personality for the sake of a man she has known for less than three months. Yeah, very plausible.

#the owl house #toh #unpopular opinion #toh criticism #toh critical #Anti amity blight #Wish she was written better #anti lumity #If ut counts bc it's one of the reasons I dislike it

[flower-boi16]

I know I compare TOH to HB a lot but its kinda funny how both shows are opposites to me. Every time I rewatch an episode of TOH I notice more things about it that I like and my opinion of the episode I rewatched gets better. Every time I rewatch an episode of HB I just notice more problems with it that I didn't catch and my opinion of the episode gets worse.

TOH Season 2 is a season that takes all the potential Season 1 left for it and uses it to its fullest, making the show go from good to phenomenal. HB Season 2 is a season that wastes all the potential the first season left for it and makes Season 1's problems worse as well as add new ones with very bad writing decisions.

Lumity is a sapphic relationship that's really well-developed and healthy, meanwhile, Stolitz is a gay relationship that is horribly written and toxic.

TOH is basically does everything I wanted HB to do, as well as HH I guess.

#toh #the owl house #anti stolitz #lumity #helluva boss critical #helluva boss criticism #hazbin hotel critical #vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism

[they-call-me-haiku]

can we talk about how useless lilith is to the plot? she's introduced as this really mysterious antagonist with a complicated relationship with one of our heroes. but then, she's shown to be incompetent, impatient and immature in a bunch of episodes where she tries to capture eda. she's portrayed almost as pathetic as kikimora sometimes.

but then she captures luz and we find out the truth about her. how she cursed her sister in order to get into the emperor's coven and how she's trying to fix her mistake by doing the wrong thing. okay, now her character is getting more interesting. maybe we can see how hard she has to work to right her wrongs and get forgiven and— nope. we're just gonna have her share eda's curse and now everyone loves her. she's forgiven instantaneously.

and after that? she's mostly just… there. either as a comic relief or as emotional support for the other characters. “she went back in time and punched belos!” anyone could have done that. there were multiple other characters in the show who knew a lot about the boiling isles and could have helped luz with time traveling. there were multiple other characters in the show who wouldn't have hesitated to deck philip in the face. lilith could have easily been replaced by any other character in the show.

besides, the punch didn't do much other than give belos a bump on his nose bridge and more of a reason to hate witches. it wasn't his driving force, he would have hated witches even if lilith hadn't punched him. he was already knee-deep in villainy at that point.

i just feel like lilith's character had a lot more potential. i feel like toh has a trend of turning all its redeemed characters into the same old "awkward loveable nerd" archetype. and it strips them of their entire personality. oh, amity was this stuck-up bully who was suffering from her mother's abuse? she got a haircut and she's just luz's cute awkward girlfriend now. personality? we don't know her. hunter was a trained soldier who spent years under the influence of his abusive uncle and recently found out that he was a clone made solely to replace his uncle's long-dead brother, and now has to deal with that life-shattering realization? nah, he's just willow's pathetic wet cat male wife now.

i just— i don't know, man. all these characters had potential. especially hunter. he was the most popular character in the show for a reason and it's not only because some viewers found him hot. it's because people could relate to him and also because his snarky and petty personality was a fun addition to the show. by the end of the series, none of these characters are themselves.

i love romantic subplots in shows but if a character has to change entirely in order to fit in a romantic narrative, maybe you're not doing it right. maybe those characters just don't belong together.

#mind you i don't hate lumity #i still think it's good representation #i just wish they didnt have to entirely change amity's personality in order to fit in with luz #toh criticism #toh critical #toh salt #toh discourse #anti lilith