#TVD analysis

[shadebyshad]

About Kol's death...

First of all, I think it's funny how Elena has the most genocidal ideas. The girl goes to such lengths to put her life at risk, it's comical. She didn't want to let Jeremy kill the random vampires Klaus brought to him because it would take years and be a lot of innocent deaths, BUT killing an original and thousands, THOUSANDS OF VAMPIRES THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, seemed like a great idea. And since she's the doppelganger and the world revolves around her, everyone agreed that committing genocide and basically declaring war on the Originals once again was a great idea.

Seeing Klaus' reaction to seeing his brother die broke my heart, I think it's a beautiful and tragic scene. But I find it so oc how the character went on, both Klaus and Elijah (the noble brother and devoted to his family) did NOTHING.

Klaus is one of the most intelligent villains I've ever seen and I love him for it. He's always one step ahead, in season 2 nobody knew if he was real or not and, regardless, Klaus is always in a place of glory. That's why I don't understand how there wasn't a Machiavellian revenge plot or a mass murder or anything. Not only did they kill Kol, they also defied his family, for the second/third time. I think it's reasonable for Klaus to spend some time contained and isolated because of his grief. It's easier to feel angry and resentful when you find out about Kol's death than to see it happening and not be able to do anything about it, I see it as a possibility that Klaus will be in shock and catatonic for a while, a short while.

Another person I expected to have a brutal reaction was Elijah. He's noble and polite, but he's also an Original, he's also violent, devoted to his family and, even though the violence of his actions makes him distressed, he wasn't going to do anything against the people who killed his brother. Elijah is a hypocrite and I think that adds to his complexity, but not taking revenge on Kol, or Finn? It's really weird

Even though it's canon that Rebekah is temperamental and volatile, I don't think an uncontrolled killing spree suits her, but doing nothing and befriending Elena without humanity is too much for me. An outrage from the writers. What is it?! C'mon, have some sense

By the way, a bunch of vampires not wanting to pay attention to the fears of the oldest vampire in the world is dumb to say the least. Silas is very dangerous, I wish someone had warned me before, don't you? Someone with a lot of life experience, you know? Someone like Kol Mikaelson

#tvd universe #tvd #kol mikaelson #klaus mikaelson #elijah mikaelson #rebekah mikaelson #text #kol's death #season 4 #elena gilbert #jeremy gilbert #tvd analysis #the vampire diaries

[fairyqueentitana]

Let's talk about TVD

For those who don't know TVD is the shortened name for the series known as The Vampire Diaries, the story centres around a girl by the name of Elena Gilbert after the tragic death of her parents.

Elena survives the accident that took her parents' lives and is preparing for her first day of school at the beginning of the series. Now, this all seems nice and mundane until the story progresses and she is dragged into the world of vampires, witches and werewolves, did I mention that she is a doppelganger and the most essential ingredient in a ritual that she has to die in. Yeah so not how she saw her life going.

To make matters worse she gets trapped in a love triangle between her boyfriend Stefan and his brother Damon. Right now that you are all caught up let's jump in.

While the show is quite popular and people celebrate the final victories of Elena and her friends I have an issue with multiple things.

Several Characters in this show are SA'ed one way or another and everyone acts like it's okay. When we are introduced to the Salvatore brothers the reason we are given for their feud is a woman. Not just any woman their sire and the 2nd doppelganger Katerina Petrova aka Katherine Pierce. She moves into their home and flirts with both men while compelling them to keep the relationship a secret from the other brother. While Damon was okay with her vampirism, Stefan was not he was horrified and did not want to be intimate with her anymore. What does Katherine do? Compel him to be fine with it and then continues to be intimate with him. Guys that isn't normal she should have stopped what she did was wrong. The second example is Damon Salvatore who I have to wonder if he is a serial offender what he did to Caroline was awful and nobody really told him off about it he even became best friends with her mother! Then he proceeds to do this with Andy Starr and admits that he was taught to do this by his mentor a female vampire by the name of Sage. He never apologises for these things. Others who come to mind are Klaus, Kol and Lucien however I can't confirm these so they are off the hook.

Elena Gilbert is either Toxic/narcissistic as hell. While at the beginning of the show, we see her as a mourning and afraid girl who is protective of her family which is not really who she is. She uses her friends to their own detriment not caring about the consequences until they really affect her. When she finds out about what Damon was doing to Caroline she scolded him briefly and moved on from the matter then after Caroline is changed she seems to completely forget why Caroline doesn't like Damon and even starts to treat him better than her friend. Another thing Bonnie Bennett has died countless times to protect and help Elena always at her own determent. When Bonnie dies she cries when she finds out it can kill Bonnie she cries but she does not learn from this at all, may I remind yall Bonnie's grams died doing something for ELENA. Then when it comes to not making enemies this girl just makes things worse for herself I mean yes Rebekah was the villain in her book but she had a chance to earn respect and Rebekah's trust what does this girl do stabs her in the back literally then pouts and cries when Rebekah runs her off of a bride when she in her infinite wisdom would not have been in that situation if she had left the woman alone. The situation with the cure as well pissed me off as they knew the consequences of killing an original and chose to kill Kol committing mass genocide and leaving Klaus with his brother's corpse. We all know they could have incapacitated him instead or like any wise person wait on Klaus. Elena is everyone's focus and they constantly sacrifice for her and she does not ever decide to do something smart about it to have a peaceful life. That bothers me.

Caroline and Bonnie Deserved Better. Let's start with our dear Bennett witch, Bonnie Shelia Bennett is a year younger than Elena and so far has died more times than anyone in the show. She never gets a happy ending at all Luka was not on her side and dies, Ben kidnaps her, Jeremy cheats on her and eventually dies, Kai is infatuated with her but tries to kill her, Kol and her would have been fun but it never came to pass and Enzo is killed by Stefan. In addition to it, all her family literally has bad luck with doppelgangers, Amara ran off with Qetsiyah's fiance, Katherine sold out Emily and got her burned at the stake and Elena was the reason Bonnie's mum lost her magic and became a vampire, Shelia died and Bonnie well you get my point. Everything was for Elena and Bonnie lost everything so many times. Now unto Caroline, she has been compelled, raped, taken advantage of, killed and turned without her consent, hated by her parents, and tortured by one of them. And before Klaus, she was of the opinion that every guy she was interested in preferred Elena. And sometimes Elena made things worse. She had a crush on Stefan he turned her down for the copy of his ex/rapist. She likes Matt that's cool and all but he still loves and will always choose Elena. He even looks to her for guidance/approval when it comes to his relationship with the blonde. And Tyler is an idiot who is situationally in love with caroline. The only man that really and truly wanted her honestly she could not be with cause he was Elena's enemy. And she only tells him on the condition he leaves town, not for her sake but everyone else's. When she finally gets Stefan he dies on the same day they get married. Caroline and Bonnie never get their happy-ending relationships because both of them lose the men they love every time. In addition, I would like to point out that they sacrificed so much and hardly got anything from it. Moving on from their love lives when someone turns off their humanity a lot of the things they say are honest to a point. I firmly believe a lot of the misery Elena put the both through without her humanity was the deeply buried thoughts the girl had. There is so much more I want to touch on but I'll leave these three points for now. Please note that I will be doing another relationship dive on TVD and the next show getting talked about will be either MLB, H2O just add water or Teen Wolf.

#the vampire diaries #elena gilbert #bonnie bennett #caroline forbes #klaroline #delena #stefan salvatore #katerina petrova #the orginals #rebekah mikaelson #klaus mikaelson #tvd damon #vampire diaries #TVD analysis

[no-1-rosalind-lang-apologist]

The way Chloe Gong pulls off fake deaths the way she does is an amazing testament to her skill as an author.

Usually fake deaths cheapen the blow of losing a character. You have to go through all of the emotional turmoil of losing a beloved character and watch everyone mourn them only for everything to be okay because actually they were kind of integral to the plot and the author needs them but also they also wanted to make the book sad for a little bit but hey everything is okay now!

But Chloe Gong doesn't do this. She gets you invested in what you usually know from the start is a doomed story. She makes you very desperately want to believe that the character that you know is going to die won't die. And then. She kills them.

And it's horrible. You mourn for them. You have to watch the other characters react to the death. But most of the time, it's a fake death. And even if you know or suspect this from the beginning, it still hurts, often just as much, if not more, than it would if the death were real.

And not just because of the way she writes grief, which gets more and more painful with each new book she releases. But instead of killing off a character for a quick gut punch and bringing them back because they were actually way too important to kill and she needs them for the plot, she uses fake deaths to create these absolutely insane scenarios that are often, at least in my opinion, more painful then just killing off the character.

When Marshall fake died, for example, she could've just had him die and forced Juliette to deal with the grief and guilt of killing her friend as well as the implications of Marshall's death for her relationship with Roma plus everyone else's grief and then created a weird situation where Roma can just,,, get over her killing Marshall and still like her. Instead, she creates this absolutely insane situation where Juliette is still grieving for the loss of her relationship with Roma, and Roma and Ben are grieving for Marshall all with Marshall still being alive. And rather than just using Marshall as a plot device to be sacrificed to make the other characters more interesting, she makes him more interesting as well. She forces him to watch as Benedikt and Roma grieve for him, making his relationship with both of them, as well as Juliette more interesting in the process.

And then when Roma and Juliette fake died at the end of OVE, even if you suspected it, it being fake doesn't take away from the pain very much, especially knowing what happens in Foul Lady Fortune. Alisa, whose only real family was arguably Roma and Benedikt, is left behind to raise herself and she is too afraid to check to see if Roma and Juliette are really dead. Because if they are dead, then she's truly alone, clinging onto the false belief that hope won out while everything she ever knew disintegrates around her. Plus, even though Benedikt and Marshall figure out pretty quickly that the death was fake, they're still forced to cope with the grief and guilt of having had a hand in the situation and forced to flee the country with only each other, thrust into a world where their best friends are dead and the hope that they are relying on to get themselves away from everything is based on the same sense of hope that ultimately lead to the "deaths" of Roma and Juliette. And then there's the cruelty of the sense of responsibility Rosalind feels for their deaths. And how after they died, she became deathly ill, but like them, was inexplicably saved. But she can't move on from their deaths and spends every waking hour and every unsleeping night of her immortal life trying to put the broken world they left behind back together. And Celia sees Alisa and Rosalind regularly. As she watches two people who she cares about immensely suffer for years after the deaths occurred, she can't say anything. Even though her first loyalty is to her sister, she's forced to watch Rosalind grieve and become a ghost of a person who seems to derive purpose solely from the pursuit of an impossible mission. And Roma and Juliette, who so deeply wanted to make the city better are forced to watch as things get worse and worse and the people that they seemingly sacrificed everything to save continue to suffer.

In Foul Lady Fortune, the fake deaths are a little different. So far, the only characters who have fake died are Dao Feng and Lady Hong, the later of which falls into this trope a bit more loosely. In Dao Feng's case, it leads to worry then betrayal on Rosalind's part. Her worry was all for nothing, and she's once again put in a place where one of the few people she dared to care about has left her and likely never truly cared about her in return (at least as of the end of FLF). Assuming that he did genuinely care about her based on As You Like It, I am very interested to see how this ends up playing out.

Lady Hong's case is somewhat similar. Although we never really think with absolute certainty that Lady Hong died, Orion suspects that his father could have done something to her and has no concrete explanation for her disappearance. He grieves her absence even though her relationship with him was always iffy at best. Only to find out that she never cared for him as anything other than a tool for her to take advantage of. Like Rosalind, he is left feeling used and as if all of his grief and pain were for nothing.

(Hiding the part below this because of huge Immortal Longings spoilers)

In Immortal Longings, you know that either Calla or Anton is going to have to die at the end because of the structure of the games. And as their relationship progresses, you dread the resolution more and more. You want a fake death. You want them to find some hole in the rules that will allow them both to survive. And Calla comes up with a plan that allows this. She gives you false hope. She lets you cling to the idea that the horrible ending you can so clearly see coming won't happen. And then that hope is snatched away, and you're even closer to the ending. And you know what's coming. You know that Anton has to die. And then the final crumb of hope is snatched away from you and they're in the ring together. And just when it's too late, Anton tells Calla that they could run for the wall together. He's finally willing to set aside Otta Avia, without who they wouldn't even be there in the first place. But it's too late. Because this is bigger than either of them. And Calla knows that she has to kill him. And she sinks her knife into his back in some of the most excruciating paragraphs I have read in my life. You see Anton realize that although he was willing to make a run for it with her, she has bigger plans. She isn't doing him a kindness by killing him first, and even though she may be planning on ending her own life as well soon, she cares more about killing King Kasa than she ever did about him. So when, at the very end, it is revealed that Anton somehow survived, it's somehow a million times worse than if he had actually died. Even though you so desperately wanted the book to not end in on or both of them dying, this isn't what you wanted. Now, he's alive and remembers just how willing she was to sink a knife through his back. And Calla must grieve for him all over again because even though he's alive, she surely can never truly have him back after what she did.

In conclusion, Chloe Gong is a legend and a genius. Thank you for coming to my tedtalk I guess.

#help i just realized how long this post is i genuinely have no idea how long i spent writing this i think i was in a trance #this has been sitting in my drafts since i finished immortal longings ooops #this is also a testament to how she handles miscommunication incredibly well #will forever defend 90% of the most hated tropes because usually they're just badly carried out and not recognized when done well #i think this is probably the longest analysis i've ever written oops #oh the things i will do to procrastinate my homework #chloe gong #secret shanghai #these violent delights #our violent ends #foul lady fortune #foul heart huntsman #last violent call #tvd #ove #flf #fhh #lvc #immortal longings #flesh and false gods #il #fafg #juliette cai #roma montagov #marshall seo #benedikt montagov #rosalind lang #celia lang #alisa montagova #orion hong

[pinkhysteria]

ELENA GILBERT • (1.15)

#elena gilbert #me at the elena gilbert convention bringing my ten page projection framed as analysis paper on the primal wound of it all. #elenagilbertedit #tvdedit #g* #tvd

[andreal831]

What do you think he genuinely felt for Katherine? Could they have worked if Katherine had stayed put and his elixir would have worked?

Kalijah is Elijah's most toxic relationship, but not Katherine's.

He first developed feelings for her when she was human and Klaus was "courting" her. Elijah knew what was in store for Katerina, but didn't warn her. Yes, he did work in the background to try and find a way for her to survive, but the goal was still for her to be sacrificed to break Klaus' curse.

We also can't ignore that the last woman he loved before meeting Katerina looked identical to her. Elijah, at the time, was unaware that he had taken Tatia's life, but he clearly still felt guilt and pain about her death. He saw Katerina as a second chance. A way to save her where he couldn't save Tatia. Human Katerina had everything Elijah loves in humanity, she was strong and brave but compassionate and caring. He didn't love her because he wouldn't allow himself to get close enough to develop such strong emotions. He knew her fate and knew there was very little he could do to stop it. Very little he would do to stop it.

If the elixir had worked and Klaus had completed the sacrifice, no, I don't think they would have ended up together. Katerina would have resented him. He gambled her life for her brother's power. She would have felt betrayed by someone she had grown to care for and felt protected her. This would have hardened Katerina and she would have started the descent into Katherine Pierce. Katherine would not have tolerated that disloyalty and would have never trusted him again.

Katherine could have sent word to him for 500 years and did not. Elijah could have looked for her for 500 years and did not. But they never trusted the other. They both moved on multiple times, Katherine with the Salvator brothers, and Elijah with Celeste and then Hayley.

When they reconnect, Elijah is ready to use Katherine as bait for Klaus. He doesn't show any affection to her even though he thought she had died. We don't see when they truly reconnect but it is sometime while Elijah has fled Mystic Falls. Elijah was in an emotionally troubled state at this point. He learned his brother had killed his mother, he was daggered, his mother came back to life, his mother and brother tried to kill him and his whole family, and then his favorite brother was temporarily killed. Elijah is not one to leave his family (Rebekah and Klaus specifically) but he does leave them here.

In this time he runs into Katherine. I headcanon it was not an accident on her part. Klaus still wanted Katherine dead and she needed powerful allies. Who's more powerful than an Original?

It always seemed to me that Katherine was attempting to manipulate Elijah into protecting her and Elijah was letting her because he needed to feel connected to someone and felt guilt for how he used her in the past. He needed to have faith that he hadn't ruined yet another woman's life.

We do see moments of tenderness between them. I'm not saying they didn't care for each other. But Elijah even says later that he's only loved two women (Tatia and Celeste) up until that point. He never truly trusted Katherine wasn't manipulating him and Katherine never trusted that he would put her first over his family.

Without trust their relationship was always doomed to fail. They were trying to build a house on sand. The more weight they put on it, the quicker the foundation crumbled.

While they both care for each other, they were never the most important person to the other. They were both using each other to as a placeholder until they could get what they truly wanted.

#kalijah #kalijah analysis #elijah x katherine #elijah mikealson #katherine pierce #toxic love #toxic relationship #tvdu #the originals #tvd #the vampire diaries #the mikaelsons #tvd anon ask #anon ask #fandom answers #fandom asks

[hacked-wtsdz]

I hate it when a show or a film has insane symbolism potential but does not touch it. Like. You have perfect metaphors. Perfect symbols. Perfect narrative echoes and ouroboros circles. But they are just lying there for me to go crazy about and not mean anything.

I hate to say it but vampire diaries is a great example of this. Because. Man. Maaaaan the symbols and metaphors you could pull out of that are insane but instead everyone just… talks. And this potential is why I like it.

It has interesting characters. Stephan turns into a vampire after fucking eating his own father. His own dad who shot him. His own dad who hated his own brother who hates Stephan for turning him into a vampire. Tell me this wouldn’t drive you crazy in any other fandom.

It has interesting plot devices and settings. Three doppelgängers quite literally haunting the vampires. Stephan who falls in love with Elena because she looks like Katharine who Stephan loved and who also turned him and who also looks like Amara whose blood cursed the first vampires. And Stephan is hardwired to love her doppelgängers but the “first”doppelgänger is the reason why he suffers with his vampirism and also the reason why he can’t be with Elena, who he is still hardwired to love. This is insane if you turn it into a narrative metaphor, instead of it remaining simply a part of the plot.

It has great character dynamics, enhanced by the fact that vampires live forever. Stephan, being the compassionate and kind person that he was, goes off the deep end and rips people’s heads off as a vampire, which is why he doesn’t feed, turning his base nature into a ticking bomb. Damon, on the other hand, being the cold and uncaring brother, does not have the problem of ripper-ism. Unlike Stephan, he treats people like blood bags, however that lack of inner constraint prevents him from giving in to temptation and going on killing sprees the way Stephan does. Who is better? Come on, the complex questions that the narrative could ask with this duet are making me vibrate a bit. Instead they are there, ignored by the narrative.

And I get why. The target audience of the show is teenage girls and young women. The romance is a huge marketing goal and strategy, and the more controversial or consciously grim you make a show, the harder it becomes to market widely. So of course they would concentrate on the romance and make it easier to digest. Props to them for leaving all of that insanity in, at least.

And you can’t even blame the people who haven’t watched it for thinking that it’s simply vampire-boyfriend drama, because that is how it’s presented, that’s the main focus, that’s what most of the fandom enjoys and discusses. And it is vampire-boyfriend drama. But all those other things are also there and are sooo eating through my symbolism-seeking brain. But because the narrative doesn’t go deeper into them, they often don’t mean anything in the narrative, which is the most annoying thing, because I have to resort to half-fanfictioning, half-metaing them.

#I enjoy the romance as well #it’s good romance mostly #the show has style and the first seasons are very genre which I like #but the symbolism potential is what attracts me without it the show is quite bland #and also because of this fan analysis is practically non-existent (only fanfiction and gifs and self-inserts) which is upsetting #vampire diaries #vd #tvd #stephan salvatore #damon salvatore #elena gilbert #katharine pierce #the vampire diaries #vampires #symbolism

[marsneedstherapy]

the great war by taylor swift is romajuliette coded, in this essay I will-

#i actually wrote a rrly long analysis post abt this like a year ago #but now i am reminded again bc im rereading tvd #their currently in the great war #they have not yet survived it #they will tho #my favorite thing to do now is when juliette is talking abt how she doesnt like roma is saying “thats ur future husband” #idk why i find it funny but i do #chloe gong #secret shanghai #these violent delights #our violent ends #last violent call #juliette cai #roma montagov

[blairwaldcrf]

[tvd 2x22 | every klefan scene 10/?]

#klaus mikaelson #stefan salvatore #klaus x stefan #klefanedit #tvd #tvdedit #the meta. the fic. the analysis. #my gifsets #*by me #klefan #otp: the details are what make it legend

[dr-lizortecho]

I’m always one tumblr suggested post away from tvd discourse- and really is it sooooo difficult to not put character hate in the character tags and for tumblr to know I’d rather rip my eyes out than see what’s his face or read his fucking name

#sorry guys #another day in the only posts that are suggested cause I follow the tvd main tags being discourse #and not even like good analysis discourse #just the kinda pouting I do when I don’t like a character #anyways fuck klaus and sorry to any of his fans that follow me I just can’t #his fucking face makes me want to chew my own ducking arm off #and I genuinely only strongly dislike two characters across most media #so it’s weird to have intense feelings about him and that one chick

[april-the-fan-girl]

At its core, The Vampire Diaries is about two very dysfunctional codependent brothers

#high analysis #the vampire diaries #tvd #damon salvatore #stefan salvatore #stefan and damon

[shadebyshad]

About Rebekah and her desire to have a child...

There are too many things to put in this title, so let's go with a brief subtitle: Rebekah Mikaelson, her desire to have children, things about humanity vs. vampirism and my contained anger about the whole plot.

Maybe it's too long, but stick with me

vampirism vs. humanity

First, we need to remember what vampirism symbolically represents in literature (and eventually in film) over the years: by exploring the transgression between life and death, they represent the concerns of a society at a particular time, as well as the dark side of the individual. They symbolize the exploitation of others, sexuality, lack of respect for others, contagious diseases, fear of the unknown (especially foreign cultures), non-conformism and religion.

Today, vampires personify real-world problems and offer a kind of refuge. Whereas previously vampires were subversive and unwanted beings, today they are something to be envied, a goal to be achieved. Despite being ambiguous beings, they are still beautiful, romantic (Twilight and TVD) and immortal. They are beings who reflect on their impulses, who repudiate the act of feeding on human blood (Edward and Stefan) and, according to myself, with a certain morality surrounding them.

And why does this matter for my long analysis? Well, because I'm obsessed with vampire and witch stories HAUAHUA. And because I think that TVD/TO fails a lot by not wanting to reflect deeply on humanity vs. vampirism. The writers bring up the concept of vampires being able to "turn off their humanity", but they never really define what "humanity" would be and then, in the last seasons, they show that they don't know what that means.

I like this concept a lot, it's interesting to see it used in the first seasons with the younger vampires and the older ones, who have a different idea of feelings and so on. I think too much, I analyze too much and I think the writers should have done the same, HAUHAUHA. What is humanity to vampires? Is it relative? Certainly, but what would be the humanity of each vampire who has been turned off in the series? And why should humanity reflect on how vampires perceive themselves and are perceived by others in the series? Klaus said that vampires should adapt their perception of time, but what about humanity?

They're not human anymore, they're going to live/have lived things that no human could understand, what we humans and mortals consider "humanity" shouldn't be relevant to them, at least for the older vampires. I understand and find it totally plausible that these concepts are still present in Caroline, Tyler and Elena when they turn. In fact, it would be very interesting to see them shedding this human notion in order to understand that it is no longer something viable for them.

And all this to say that I understand Rebekah wanting to be human by living a thousand years and realizing that life has no meaning if it's eternal, a human philosophy, but I understand the gorgeous's thinking and, like a fan, I'll just say: Rebekah, go for it!

Rebekah, trauma and being human again

I've only watched TO up to the second season, so if I've got something wrong, sorry, but anyway… Rebekah has a terrible fear of being abandoned, falls in love easily, loves too much, was transformed without her consent and, unfortunately or fortunately, I find her decision/desire to be human very coherent with the character.

Being human again would be a way of regaining the control that was taken from her, although wanting to "build a family" would be her way of escaping from the Mikaelsons. Since you can't choose what kind of family you're going to be born into, you just have to be lucky, the family Rebekah built would be different, they would be people she had chosen, people who had shown themselves to be worthy and affectionate. It's even common for this desire to manifest itself in children from toxic homes, at least I see it that way.

I'd love to see what made Rebekah think that her salvation was to be human, even though she was one of the most powerful beings in the world and had lived for so many years. Societies could be shitty to her because she's a woman, but like? Who gives a fuck? She could have a whole city at her feet if she wanted to, she could make people doubt her existence as a vampire like Klaus did and whatever else. So, how did she get there?

And I think that has a lot to do with his inability to have biological children. And with that…

children

REBEKAH COULD HAVE BEEN A MOTHER! Regardless of whether or not she is capable of giving birth, she can be a mother. Many women can't give birth either, and then the excuse of the story is that she's a vampire? Oh, fuck off, eh? That's what adoption is for.

I don't understand TVD's obsession with biological children and "creating a family", they're vampires from thousands of years ago, who go to school, go to several colleges, found a town, open a fucking bar, buy a bunch of houses, whatever, but they can't have a child? Spare me, spare us

I hate Caroline's pregnancy plot, but they know how to work that obsession better… work it more or less. I still hate it, it's one more time that TVD overturns all its pre-established rules.

And Rebekah might have thought that adopted children didn't have the same value as biological ones, but this isn't shown at any point. And if that were the case, her relationship with Klaus and Mikael would have been very different, as would the way she sees Klaus and Marcel's father-son relationship

It would have been lovely to see Rebekah find that mother-daughter connection with a child she could actually adopt, instead of the aunt-niece relationship. Vampires are so connected to the unconventional, even today being a worshipped and envied being, that it's very frustrating to see her wanting a child so badly and NOT GOING TO ADOPT ONE!!! It would be going against the typical tradition, understanding and showing that there are other ways of being a mother.

For a teen series with so much violence, it lacked boldness

And Rebekah can be a great feminist icon with good writing, okay?! When she comes out of the coffin and we meet her in the third season, she herself says that she was criticized for wearing pants at a time when it was a scandal. She's a Viking who, if we pretend that the writers have done real research into the Norse and the Vikings, has learned to fight and has done things that, from a Eurocentric and patriarchal perspective, are not good for a woman. And it's quite likely that she did more things that went against the grain, so I don't know why we didn't get our "Interview with the Vampire" plot starring Rebekah Mikaelson.

Well, at least she got the happy ending she deserved

#tvd #to #tvu #the vampire diares #analysis #text #rebekah mikaelson #some portuguese slang doesn't shine as brightly now that it's been translated

[awalkoflife-arc]

harrison morgan + headcanons about caroline’s death in his tvd verse: ( note: harrison’s caroline is and only ever will be @seesgood​​ in this closed ship verse. )

- as soon as caroline’s admitted to hospital, best believe he is by her side every single night; sleeping in the chair by her bedside, refusing to move even though the doctors and the nurses and even liz herself have told him to go home. he doesn’t listen to any of them because that’s his girl and they can all get fucked if they think he’s leaving her. therefore, the only explanation as to why he wasn’t there when katherine showed up was because it was a full moon so he physically couldn’t be there due to transitioning.

- initially, he doesn’t want damon to give her his blood because it’s damon and he’s already done enough damage. he’s in agreement with elena on this matter, but it’s bonnie who manages to convince both of them that it’s for the greater good. (!!!) he actually likes bonnie so he chooses to listen to her. he’s in the hospital room with caroline when she drinks damon’s blood. he won’t leave her alone with him or let her be vulnerable around him ever again. “ give her what she needs and get the fuck out. ” is his warning to the vampire. after she feeds on damon, he gets into the hospital bed with her and stays there until she falls asleep.

- he’s in complete denial about her death which then transcends into a state of shock. he blames himself first then blames all of her fucktard friends. he wants to murder matt donovan, tyler lockwood and her mother for not being there on the one night that he couldn’t be. harrison knows the perils of a supernatural existence and he mourns the loss of her humanity. she’s his best friend the love of his life and he doesn’t want this to be her reality, but ultimately, he’s just so grateful that she’s still ‘alive’ and breathing.

- he has a moment with bonnie in the disabled bathroom of the hospital where he completely loses his shit, falls to pieces, crumbles into a shell of himself and breaks down after his first visit to see caroline while she’s in the process of turning. bonnie tries to comfort him, but he leaves and doesn’t return until later that night when he can be alone with caroline. he brings her a selection of her favourite snacks, trashy magazines and one of his oversized hoodies, as well as a concealed water bottle filled up with a stolen blood bag. it’s during this time in the hospital that he reveals his secret to her, in the hopes she’ll feel less alone --- but also to promise her that she’ll never be alone in her immortality. “ you’re still my girl, babe. you’ll always be my girl. fangs or not. ” 

#( character analysis: harrison morgan. ) #( harrison morgan: tvd verse. ) #lia and i haven't discussed any of these in full but askjdfhkjdfhd i had feelings. #( headcanon: harrison morgan. )

[no-1-rosalind-lang-apologist]

What I’m saying is never grow up is the first category of memory. Story of us is the second category of memory. And mine is the third category of memory.

#peak literary analysis #chloe gong #foul lady fortune #secret shanghai #foul heart huntsman #these violent delights #flf #rosalind lang #orion hong #rosorion #fhh #tvd #high tide #rosalind x orion

[whitedemon-ladydeath]

New Blog Bio:

I do not tolerate pro-israel, zionist shit anywhere near me. I don't tolerate anti semitism anywhere near me. I will not tolerate anyone who is upholding or supporting the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians. if you do, BLOCK ME

if ur gonna follow or interact with my blog pls realize I am very critical towards most acotar content, especially if it involves Rhysand. I am more-or-less a Rhys Anti until further notice and I am hard-core side eye towards Cassian until Rhysand is held accountable for being a shitty person for more than like *checks notes* two pages

I'm not a Tamlin Stan, nor do I particularly care for him, but I have been engaging in thoughtful criticisms of his actions often which involves character analysis so you v likely will see that pop up every now and then

likely you will find:

anti Rhysand

anti/critical IC

anti/critical/pro feyre

anti/critical Cassian posts, maybe MAYBE pro cassian

critical/pro Azriel- I'm pretty neutral towards him

anti/critical/pro elain content [often. w/o being tied to a ship]

pro Lucien

pro Nesta

pro Eris

most pro tog characters

anti/critical chaol (he just annoys me with his high horse)

Pro Ships:

Azriel/Eris/Nesta

Tamsand (lmao)

Feylin [book one]

Elucien

Nesta/Lucien [idk the ship name]

Feycien

Feyssian

Mesta

most tog ships

aelin/manon

malide

chaorian

Anti Ships:

Nessian

Feysand

Elriel

lysaedion

chaolena

My Specific ACoTaR Meta:

SJM + Eugenics + Ableism in her Writing

CoN + the Eternal Perpetuation of Abuse and Toxicity

SJM and the vilification of Ireland in acotar and tog

SJM could have had the HLs give their power to resurrect her wo Rhys forcing them if she played by Faerie Rules

Rhys physically assaulted Nesta

Class Warfare + Class Traitors in ACoTaR

Rhysand + Morally Grey Behavior

My Meta / Aus / etc Posts

tag -> #justice for poor cassian and poor archeron Sisters

tag -> #glasses!elain propaganda

tag -> #slavic archeron Sisters au

tag -> #fix cassians characterization challenge

tag -> #scottish!tamlin

tag -> #welsh!rhys

tag -> #disabled!Cassian

tag -> #my acotar world building

tag -> #appropriated faerie lore in acotar

tag -> #hybern Ireland

tag -> #white feminism in acotar

tag -> #eugenics in acotar

tag -> #eugenics in tog

tag -> #classism in acotar

Other Acotar Meta:

Mor SA'd Cassian

tag -> #acotar tiktok meta

tag -> #acotar meta

tag -> #racism in acotar

tag -> #Nesta is not an alcoholic send tweet

Other:

A Synopsis of The Ballad of Tam Lin

If You're interested:

Mission to have my own Bookstore:

tag -> #mission: cheshire books

TVDverse:

leave season 1 Caroline ALONE. she deserved better 🥺

Damon and Rose's Friendship that is ALL

Esther is Mikaels victim too stop this irritating 'Esther is the real villain'

tag -> #can we stop the overt vilification of Esther Mikaelson and the UwUization of Mikael Mikaelson

tag -> #tvd tiktok edits

tag -> #Damon Salvatore

tag -> #Caroline Forbes

tag -> #Vincent Griffith

tag -> #Shelia Bennett

Shadow and Bone / Six of Crows:

The Darkling Meta

tag -> #David kostyk

Once Upon a Time

tag -> #cora mills

The Hunger Games / A Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes:

Coriolanus Snow Meta

tag -> #thg tiktok meta

tag -> #coriolanus snow

tag -> #reaper ash

tag -> #wovey

Percy Jackson

tag -> #nico di Angelo

completely irrelevant:

tag -> #rural iowa

more to be added!

#acotar #a court of thorns and roses #throne of glass #nesta archeron #anti rhysand #sjm critical #elain archeron #feyre archeron #lucien vanserra #anti cassian #aelin ashryver #aelin critical #rowan whitethorn #Rowan critical #manon blackbeak #manorian #malide #anti chaol #dorian havilliard

[andreal831]

Is Elijah Mikaelson a hypocrite?

I get this question a lot. Or more often than not, someone is yelling it at me because I insulted their fave. So I am going to try and answer this as unbiasedly as possible. But I do acknowledge that everyone is biased and has their own viewpoints, including me.

Elijah is one of the more complex characters in the TVDU because he has a lot of warring motivations. And in my opinion, people try to oversimplify his character and end up with the viewpoint that he is just a hypocrite.

We will start with his morals.

Elijah is called "noble" by a lot of different characters throughout the show. People often will say he is hypocritical for holding himself out as noble and then either breaking his word or doing something morally questionable. But, I first would like to point out that Elijah never once calls himself noble. When Davina says she's heard he is the noble one, he simply replies "That's what they call me." Because he does not view himself as noble. In fact, he holds himself out as a monster any time he talks about himself. He says this to Hayley early in season 1 of TO. He says this to Vincent when talking about protecting Hope. He says this to Detective Kinney when Kinney is under the influence of the Hollow. Elijah is very aware of who he is but he also is aware that his reputation can help people trust him. A reputation he has built. Characters who are completely unrelated call him noble. This is a reputation he has amongst the entire supernatural community. Likely because, in comparison to his siblings, he seems more noble simply because he does not indiscriminately kill as often as his siblings. I know people are probably ready to bring up the red door at this point and I've already done an analysis of that. Read that and come back. He is not a hypocrite here because he never pretends to be better than he is, he simply lets his reputation precede him and doesn't necessarily correct it.

The next argument is that he hides behind his suits. I do think there is some truth to it, but not because he is trying to pretend he is not a monster. But because it is his protection. Elijah wearing a suit is no different than Rebekah's glamorous outfits or Klaus' hennleys. None of them walk around covered in blood with a sign saying they are vampires. Elijah wearing a suit actually makes more sense than anything. He is a more old-fashioned character. Men in his class had been wearing suit-like outfits since around the 1600s and many elite men in today's society still wear suits on a regular basis. He has worn a suit for about half of his life. If you think someone is a good person because they are wearing a suit, we need to have a discussion. If someone trusts Elijah more simply because he is in a suit, they need to reevaluate how they interpret people. Some of the worst people I've ever met have been men in suits, don't use that as a way to read people.

The only argument I'm more willing to conceed in is that he can be hypocritical when it comes to his family at times. I like to blame the writers since in TVD we see him willing to kill Klaus because of the treatment of his siblings but then his character becomes more centered around Klaus throughout TO. But in light of trying to not be biased, we have to accept even the most annoying writing as canon.

Rebekah calls Elijah a hypocrite in season 1, but I don't agree with her assessment there. Elijah had asked her to stay her hand and not provoke a war with Klaus, while at the same time attempting to counsel Klaus into a peace agreement. Rebekah feels that he is being unfair because she is aware of his feelings for Hayley and she feels he is telling her she cannot pursue Marcel. However, that is not what he was telling her. He simply did not want her to side with Marcel over Klaus. Likewise, he was continuing to choose Klaus over Hayley by not acting on his feelings for Hayley. He was not asking her to do anything different than what he was prepared to do. He truly believed they should sacrifice for family and continued to do this throughout his life.

Elijah's moral code is more stern than his siblings but it is by no means a high moral standard. He does not bat an eye at murder but only counsels his siblings to do it discreetly to avoid gaining Mikael's attention. He is willing to kill those who would threaten his family without hesitation but does not seem to take pleasure in it. His morals seemed to be more focused on his word. He can be trusted to keep a deal unless that deal would harm his family. This is where we see his warring motivations. Elijah had every intention of keeping his words to Elena, even after she broke hers twice. But when it came down to finding his siblings or keeping his word, he would always choose his siblings.

This is the frustrating part for me. TVD showed him to be a character who truly did care for each of his siblings. As soon as he was able, he released all of them from their coffins. He was prepared to leave Klaus and run off with his siblings. He also appears less codependent on Klaus since he ends up leaving Mystic Falls without Klaus or Rebekah. He had lived for almost 100 years before that without his siblings, 13 of those years when he was still on good terms with Klaus.

In TVD, he had a more stringent moral code, however, as life gets more complicated in TO and even in flashbacks, we see him bending his morals in order to protect his siblings, mainly Klaus. Which is why we see him fine daggering Kol if it means he can continue to focus on guiding Klaus. But I also think Daniel Gillies does a great job showing his mixed emotions each time he has to act against his siblings.

He also seems to be more opposed to harming children than his siblings, stating in TO season 1 that he wouldn't feed from Davina calling her a child. In TVD, he doesn't seem interested in the war with teenagers Rebekah and Klaus were waging in Mystic Falls. But again, when his family was in danger, that went out the window.

To me, Elijah is not any more hypocritical than anyone else in the show. Meaning, yes there are some things he does that go against his moral code, but it is no more than most people would do. Most of the tension in the show is the war between what is right and what they want. Everyone is forced to make hard decisions. These decisions are what separate the 'bad' guys from the 'good' guys. Elijah may not always make the most moral decision, but when he does terrible things it is rooted in his desire to protect those he loves. No different than what any other person would do in his place.

#elijah mikealson #tvdu #the originals #the vampire diaries #tvd #the mikaelsons #klaus mikaelson #rebekah mikaelson #vampire diaries #kol mikaelson #hayley marshall

[hacked-wtsdz]

“Some vampires are actually better than others because some of them feel bad about killing others and some don’t” is suuuch a crazy take on a show about vampires being a murderous species.

Like.

Stefan is better than Damon because Stefan is haunted by his deeds as a ripper when he isn’t a ripper.

And it doesn’t even matter whether or not Damon cares about killing or not, it’s that the entire concept of regret makes no difference (and, ironically, often makes matters worse).

Even if you’re sorry about killing people, they’re all still dead. In fiction likability is more important than morality, I know, I know, but if you are taking a moral stance, why not look at it from a moral perspective?

The interesting thing about Stefan is that I think his ripper-ism stems from his guilt. I think he was a deeply sensitive and guilt-piled person as a human, and as a vampire, it intensified. Additionally, now there is this disgust towards himself, and the guilt for killing his father, and the trauma from Katherine, and the guilt for turning Damon, and it fuels the ripper-ism so so so much. He suppresses these emotions i.e. turns them off, but there is more. The entire addiction, the hunger, I think it comes from the guilt and the shame and the horror.

So the fact that Stefan cares so deeply leads to the fact that he is a serial killer with vampire instincts. He actually killed more people than Damon, and their difference is precisely that Damon cares less.

He is obviously haunted by Katherine and her rejection, by guilt and shame, but significantly less than Stefan, and it manifests differently (I think through sex, in a way, but that is completely unexplored, and I’d be spinning my own stories out of this). There is less guilt to haunt Damon, Damon being a victim, and simultaneously Damon becomes the aggressor in the way Stefan doesn’t — Stefan is a victim of his addiction much more than he’s the perpetrator. So Damon feeds consciously and often without remorse, but there is no guilt to associate with the hunger, so it’s just that — hunger. He eats, he wipes their memory, he forgets. Sometimes, he kills. But it’s always conscious.

That’s repulsive on an idealistic level, of course, and doesn’t add to his general likability, but in the end this quality is what makes him actually, you know, kill less people.

The point is that Stefan isn’t better than Damon, even if Stefan feels bad about being a murderer, he kills more people, and Damon’s carelessness allows him to kill less. Stefan is more of a victim than Damon, but again, irrelevant in the material world.

And that, I think, is the whole tragedy of vampirism and ripper-ism specifically. You can be a victim of it (and all vampires are, one way or another) and it will not save you from being a horrible murderous monster, and the only way out is through suicide.

This duality is what I find thrilling about the Salvatores.

The relation between Stefan eating his dad as the vampire-turning ritual and him being a ripper is a theme for a different discussion but it is soooooo. Idk… brothers karamazov anyone?

#the fact that people mark characters as ‘problematic’ on a very horror-coded show (about vampires no less) #people-eating monsters #is kind of weird #horror is always problematic horror is always toxic #vampires are a toxic thing they can’t not be!!! #and it’s so hot of them to be this way #one thing about me is that I love deep analysis of rather mediocre media #there is always gold in any film if you look for it etc etc #tvd #the vampire diaries #vd #problematic #damon salvatore #stefan salvatore #salvatore brothers #elena gilbert #jeremy gilbert #klaus mikaelson #vampires #vampire