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#and it's not just the role of loki
indelen · 1 month
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I love that one fanfic trope where Loki needs a disguise on Earth or whatever so he shape shifts and the narrative makes it clear it's to look like Tom.
Exactly the kind of silly little joke I like.
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kisses-4-loki · 1 year
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I adore dashingfrost
I just love the concept of Fandral being in love with loki, unable to say anything because loki is his Prince and thors little brother, except loki is fond of him as well. And even though fandral knows he really couldn't be with loki because of the all father and thor and the crowns reputation, when loki looks up at him he really really wants to kiss him.
Loki's bright and innocent eyes peering the couple of inches up at him through his dark lashes, yet to reach the growth spurt he needs to only be a little shorter (because I love taller fandral). A small but *knowing* and *adoring* smile tugging at his lips, and the balm he wears to care for his lips as well as he cares for his skin makes them shiny. Fandral wants to know if they'd be soft against his own.
Equally, Loki loves how kind fandral is, even loves that he refuses to kiss him even though they both know he wants to. It's sweet, that fandral cares so much for his reputation that he refuses to do what he wants. But honestly, if the charming fool doesn't so something soon loki will just pull him into some unused hall and lean up to kiss him himself.
That's almost what happens- though it's fandral that pulls loki aside. He invites him on a walk through a quiet and disrepaired part of the gardens, summons flowers with the small spark of seidr that he has and, when loki accepts them with a shy look and a flush on his cheeks, he leans down to gently press a kiss to his lips. Loki kisses back, of course, because *finally* he is getting what *he* wants for a change and not what his father wants or "what's best for him".
There's a lot of sneaking around but they don't mind. Loki loves to be mischievous, and fandral is good at blending in in plain sight.
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if there’s one thing that has been undoubtedly proven in the MCU is that the only thing Loki needs in order to turn into a hero, in every timeline, in every version of himself, is someone who believes in him.
that’s all it takes, every single time.
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idrilearfalas · 6 months
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Ok, I've got it. Ideal ending of season 2 for my shipping soul is to have Loki and Mobius kiss during one of the loops ( to Natalie Holt's "Lokius" track ), Loki telling Mobius he loves him before having to restart things again, this time successfully.
And season 3 would be all about Loki and Mobius working together with the audience aware they're in love but Loki keeping what happened to himself because he does not want to privy Mobius of the choice to go back to his own timeline when everything is fixed.
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erenfox · 20 days
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so y'all are willing to ship gwiles (gwen stacy x miles morales) but have a problem when it comes to sylki?
yep. makes perfect sense.
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apathyandmischief · 6 months
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I think one of the things that bothers me most about Loki's ending now that I've had time to simmer is that it was just so passive. We get all of this beautiful character development, all of this raw power that he refines over the course of the series (though it was rushed in the last episode in a way that made it feel too convenient, I wish more of the season explored honing his skills), only for him to get a stupidly passive ending. I'm okay with the sacrifice, I'm okay with the solitude. But for him to climb the steps into unknown only to sit on a throne, literally holding together the fabric of time at the center of Yggdrasil? They effectively made our beloved into a zip tie
Edit: my bad. I guess he's a battery. Which is somehow worse?
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nostalgia-tblr · 11 months
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For anyone keeping track (no one), I have started watching the first Avengers film (MCU not the 60s TV show) but only while eating lunch so it's gonna take a while. So far Nick Fury has been assembling the Avengers (the film was initially released in the UK as Avengers Assemble - because of that 60s TV show - but it's not called that on D+ so I'm calling it what the Americans called it, just FYI) even though there's not yet anything for them to avenge as That Suit Guy (j/k I know his name too!!) isn't dead yet, and now they're on THE FUCKING VALIANT FROM DR WHO and I assume we're gonna continue assembling for a while as they're not all there yet.
MEANWHILE Loki (who is neither an alligator nor a woman in this???) is in a SECRET UNDERGROUND LAIR with a bunch of his stans who are... idk something technobabble that involves irridium and anti-protons. He is there looking for the tesseract on behalf of ???? who I know will be revealed 47 films from now as... no, wait, it wasn't, was it? That was just announced on a website or something? So it could be LITERALLY ANYONE. The Avengers (in-progress) also seem to be after that thing, but I have already forgotten why everyone is wanting it, assuming it was mentioned (it probably was).
Thor hasn't shown up yet, but Arrows Hawkeye is working as a Loki Stan and there's Steve Rogers and THE HULK and The Only Woman One, whose power is that she's a Cold War assassin (??) and I think this one is the film where she gets called a cunt (!) and honestly I am not sure which of the men she's getting officially shipped with, I think Arrows Hawkeye though? Fairly sure, as the alternative is that a man and a woman like each other as people but not in a lusty way, which would never happen obviously. (Hey I may ship mostly het* pairings but I don't always like it!)
Based on the Valiant (if u don't know who she is get da hell out of here!) I am guessing that the film ends with Loki dying in Thor's arms romantically but then I remembered that I know it can't because one of Loki got kidnapped from... either the end of this film or the start of the next one or POSSIBLY just from a later film's time-travel bit (???) but like... maybe they've edited this film secretly and I was right after all? But nobody else has watched it on Disney + recently so nobody knows yet? IT COULD HAPPEN.
Not sure what to make of this film so far, a lot's been going on yet also not much has been going on, and the one I like best so far (Suit Guy) is gonna die (NOT EVEN IN THOR'S ARMS ROMANTICALLY) and god Iron Man really hasn't aged well now that we have that one tech billionaire being a twat in public all the time to remind us what such people tend to be like. WHERE IS THOR????
*I say het but everyone in everything is bisexual, I know this because I thought of it and announced it on tumblr and will now say "I don't make the rules" to make it an objective FACT. I don't make the rules!!!
#the avengers (mcu edition not the 60s one)#(though if u close one eye and tilt ur head the black widow looks a wee bit like emma peel maybe?)#i like to think the lair of loki stans exists after this to post angrily on social media about how actually he did nothing wrong etc etc#let me know if loki's just working from a subway station that's still in use in this that'd be hilarious he'd be so annoyed by it all#torn on the tortured-by-thanos issue so far he does look messy but he might just have the flu and didn't want to back out#a lot of people are depending on him to jumpstart a movie superhero franchise he can't just take the day off can he#if loki took care of himself thor would be LITERALLY UNEMPLOYED how could he? how could YOU?#(the 'god of thunder' thing isn't a job he doesn't get paid for it so it's just a hobby)#(he doesn't even monetise that hobby! you think iron man would give you storms for free? EXACTLY. he'd have a patreon AT LEAST)#(“if you enjoyed this torrential rain pls tip me on ko-fi which is not pronounced like you think it is because it's a really BAD pun”)#mcu tag i guess#and whatever the fuck my loki character tag was#like i said i really do need to categorise my lokis more it's been bothering me for a while#reminder: i am here because they cast a woman in a previously-male role and SHE'S NOT EVEN IN THIS FILM. OR ANY OF THEM. D:#don't think the alligator's gonna turn up here either :( :( :(#otherwise it's just kind of fascinating what this film assumes i do and don't know about these characters#nick fury's a goth right?
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worstloki · 2 years
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Thor knowing that their family is terrible and hurt them both but still asking Loki to return to it because it's what they have
#like you think Thor doesn't know he's hurt Loki?#you think he doesn't know that their parents did?#Thor refuses to let their family go because his role is what gives him worth the same way as it did for Loki#it's harder for him to let it go because it's a decision he would have to consciously make#and things are better for him as a prince of Asgard than they ever were for Loki (he has Odin's favour. is the heir/son by blood. is liked.#Thor has a lot more to lose than Loki did#Loki didn't have to refuse the family because he found out he was lied to and the decision was made for him#he wasn't liked and didn't have Odin's favour or a special weapon or friends or an official role to grow into#Frigga can say she's his mother and Odin can claim whatever he wants but it's just a reminder of what he no longer has#Loki relatively had a lot less to lose on Asgard but it made up the entirety of what Loki had because it separated him from. everything.#he let go on the Bifrost because there was quite literally nothing left for him there or that he wanted and could have#when Loki got cut off he didn't have any guarantee that his brother would side with him and... Thor probably wouldn't have#but if THOR decides to leave their home behind after Loki's death he would have been siding with Loki and would've been the one cutting awa#Thor has a choice in staying a family because he can suck it up to Odin and Frigga and is unable to comprehend that Loki doesn't have that#from Thor's perspective Loki is the one who is rejecting their home by not playing nice and returning#Loki's the one who will be rejecting their home if he faces consequences for attacking Midgard or sits in a cell for his whole life#because Thor thinks Loki can just make the same decision he does by simply staying loyal to Asgard and keeping complaints to himself#that's the way the family worked before anyway so Loki not *wanting* to go back to that is a betrayal. and for what?#from Thor's point of view Loki is stubbornly refusing to return to Asgard and gain everything he lost#he doesn't understand that the only thing Loki was given a choice in losing was his brother and that he never reached a decision about it#Loki betrays Thor and hopes he dies before any judgement is passed but calls him brother and hopes Thor gets the throne. like. what a mess.#Loki works with Frigga and Thor against what Odin/Asgard has decreed until you bring up that they're a family where he shuts down#if Thor works against Odin/Asgard but doesn't feel the need to separate that from the fact they're family so he doesn't#he doesn't see that Loki is incapable of doing the same because it's Odin/Asgard that already rejected/betrayed *him*#there was never enough on Asgard for Loki to want to return or seek forgiveness for when he was the one hurt/who lost it all#he cares for Frigga and Odin regardless of them not being his parents and cares for Thor because there's really nothing else for him#Thor didn't reject him and he didn't lie to him about his race/lineage but telling him to come home like he still has that is cruel#because Loki thinks that Thor knows there's nothing he has on Asgard and Thor thinks Loki's side doesn't need to be considered#family hurts and lies and betrays and judges you and Thor's accepted it because feelings don't matter when family is what it is#tldr; bold to assume that Thor's got any better idea of what love or healthy relationship is meant to look like than Loki
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musclesandhammering · 9 months
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Unpopular opinion: I don’t want og!Loki to be in Valhalla after Thanos killed him, I want him to be the new ruler of Hel.
#to expand: this is based on the theory that Hela is his biological mother#and she died in ragnarok so naturally there needs to be a new goddess/god of death and naturally that would be her biological child#so like loki inherits the throne of the dishonourable dead and realises he has necro powers and all that#I know it’ll never happen but like#that would be a reeeally good way to still have him Around but not onscreen anymore moving forward#and it would also give him a somewhat peaceful ending while still allowing him to be#the morally questionable chaotic neutral who fills a villain image like he’s meant to <3#also I think it would be poetic as hell if#instead of just torturing the souls or straight up ignoring them like I’m assuming hela did#he actually offers them mercy and a chance at redemption in death#like he understands what it’s like to be the bad guy and be deemed unworthy and he knows it’s not always your fault#so he works with some of them and talks to them and tries to give them a chance to honestly redeem themselves and amend their mistakes#and once they do that he sends them to Valhalla :)#so that means he has a working relationship with the upstairs#and while he’s never going to reside there permanently I’m sure they can work out a visitation or something between him and his dead family#I just think it’d be so great#let’s face it he’d never be happy spending eternity doing nothing in Valhalla#he’d rather have an active role#even though I don’t love the idea of hela as his mom#I love this idea#hela#loki#loki helason#mcu#og Loki#tag mega#kinda
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kingspuppet · 8 months
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––––This is for OUR justice! But this isn't you...
(Picrew)
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wolfcamellias · 2 years
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Anyways shoutout to Sun Wukong and Loki for being genderfluid shapeshifters who can transform into whatever they feel like as long as it’s them
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theorderofthetriad · 1 year
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all fanfiction exists on a scale between "painstakingly engaging with canon" and "the characters are my dollys and the universe my dollhouse and i will put them wherever i want and make them do whatever i want"
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iturbide · 9 months
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I think it's because religion revering dragons tends to be inspired by how Japanese irl revered dragon as protective spirits, it's not exactly an organized cult. Moreover, the dragon in Engage are pretty much made of flesh so they can speak directly to their believer about what they want
Okay so 'organized cult' has some pretty strong implications for how you view religion as a whole, and I'm not exactly comfortable with that.
Religion is, at its core, just a bunch of stories. It's a mythology. It's inherently neutral. It's the human component that's charged with motives, good and bad; it's the human component that will cherry-pick ideas that fit their desired message and use religion as a cudgel against others. It's the human component that wages wars over a bunch of stories, whether it's because another group has different stories or they read the same stories differently.
Also, it's my general understanding that dragons are just part of the wider Shinto religion in Japan -- dragons are kami, the same way that Inari is kami. Their worship is based on stories, too, because those stories lend context to the kami. Dragons are associated with water, rain, and fishing: the rituals around their worship have a heavy focus on agriculture and fishing. It's a gross misreading of the actual faith they're part of to say they're just revered as protective spirits when Shintoism has such a complex and nuanced set of cultural practices. I'm not qualified to speak on the specifics, but I don't think it's fair to say the Engage dragon worship thing is just "how it's done in Japan."
Also, it's worth mentioning that a lot of religions have stories about gods assuming mortal forms. Hinduism has full-on epics about the mortal avatars of their deities (and also they're amazing). But what your wording implies is that dragons don't need to do anything besides be present to be worshiped, which...isn't how religion works. Again: it's stories. If the dragon is there and wants to be worshiped, they have to do something to make that happen -- whether that's helping those around them and developing a reputation that draws followers (like Naga, who shared the dragons' knowledge with early humans) or gaming the system to give power to those who will subjugate others and force them to take part in that worship (Loptous and the Loptyrian Empire -- though, take note, there were regular people who worshiped Loptous by the time of his first defeat, and they were subsequently subjugated by the victors and prayed for their divine's aid).
Engage, from what I played and saw in the course of the narrative and Supports, didn't put in much legwork to show why the Divine Dragons are worshiped, why they're considered royal, why they're the center of the predominant faith of Elyos. Maybe it's just the ongoing reverence after the events of the war against Sombron, but I'd really like to know more about what the religion says, what other stories there are about Lumera and the Divine Dragons that led to their reverence in the first place.
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chlorineloki · 9 months
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i’m sorry i’m going on another rant but this ship enrages me; i think they should be besties, not romantically in love. that’s how i originally read it, and i hope the show backtracks a little bit and makes that real, because they do NOT need to have romantic feelings for each other. like it seemed like they were just trying to figure out how to CARE about others, not like they were in love. i think they have deep platonic love for one another, but i see no reason that it needs to be/ should be romantic?? i think they’re both just trying to figure out how to express that for each other, and they’re really awkward about it, so it ends up being expressed a bit weirdly. i really really hope s2 does this narrative and they don’t end up as a couple. it just doesn’t feel right.
idc about the selfcest or whatever bc they’re completely different characters. the actors even have some chemistry, but i just do not like this ship as romantic, i see them as friends. i’m curious to see as well if sylvies feelings were genuine, or if she was trying to manipulate loki to get what she wants. i hope they can be friends without the writers/directors ruining it and making them actually fall in love.
taken from a quora response (i know i hate that site too but this reply really made sense):
“I glanced at the other answers and everyone seems pretty sure that they are madly in love. I have to say I disagree.
The Loki we know has truly experienced trauma throughout his life. He was basically abducted as a baby for lack of a better term, lied to, etc etc. He doesn't trust people. I would go as far as to say he doesn't even put any effort into liking them. As much as I do believe he loves Thor, it is a love-born out of initial obligation. I think that loving/caring about anyone outside of your immediate family is always different. And that the first time you do it, it has a learning curve. What a lot of people read as soft loving romantic feelings, I read as Loki slowly lowering walls.
I think that at the moment when Mobius was pruned, Loki truly was heartbroken, because he considered him an ally and a friend. Possibly his first. Imagine not having a single friend in a thousand years. After having that kick ass fight, working with Sylvie against the minutemen, he grabs her shoulders, I don't think he was going to dip her and kiss her. Ala a Peggy/Steve or Tony Pepper moment. Or declare her his one true love.
I think he was going to declare that he trusted her and that he wanted to fight alongside her. He was going to tell her everything that she missed, everything that he thought they should do next. He was fully prepared to do the same thing with Mobius, He just never got the chance. He's never known how to trust someone and now he did. And in his mind the first part of that is declaring it. Declaring that you aren't trying to betray that person despite it kind of being your calling card.
Could I see a romantic relationship in the distant future? Maybe? Everyone seems to look at the variant thing differently. To me none of the variants are the same. They look different, they act different, they were raised different, and they don't even appear to have the same genes. Literally twins are more similar than the variants. A lot of people are also saying that him caring for her is similar to him accepting himself because they share so many traits. But that is a kind of relationship that can be found in a person who isn't your trans-dimensional variant. Oftentimes our best friends, our platonic soulmates, are people that we see ourselves in the most.
There's a quote that I don't remember exactly. But it goes something like, “You will find that in your life there are people who will know your soul from the inside out and the great tragedy is that these are rarely the people you spend your life with." I thought of that quote several times when I was watching the last episode.
I personally really like Sylvie as a standalone character, and at this point I'm just hoping that she lives to move on in the next phase of movies. Because honestly, I like Tom Hiddleston, it would be cool for him to have a romantic relationship with anybody. But more than anything I'd love to see him in his mischievous glory with a best friend egging him on.”
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glimpsesofeuterpe · 6 months
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... so normal™ about Loкi doing time jumps
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tyrannuspitch · 11 months
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i'm reading this historical novel with a third gender character and like. i don't know how to feel about it. because obviously gender is personal and contextual and they will be operating within their own society's rules. but i feel like the author is keeping things so just-within-the-rules that it almost becomes like... a weird reluctance to engage with actual queerness? only with alternative norms? almost like. inventing new ways to be cis and then doing cisnormativity with them lmao
#so the character was raised a boy but (their words) 'has a woman's body'#they seem to always choose male presentation/roles when they have the choice#but they didn't decide to be raised that way. it was just Their Destiny.#and it's not clear that maleness means much to them besides familiarity and social power#and uh. they're attracted to men and they always identify that as a female feeling#and like the direction we're going in seems to be romance 'reconciling' them with their femaleness ://#(this being a character who has been correctively raped as well.)#(and the men who are attracted to them are never ever treated as queer and only feel attraction once they 'know')#and it's just like. idk. it's a plausible situation but it also feels... unimaginative. limited. ?#like we're heading for a modern feminist 'women can do anything men can and STILL BE WOMEN! :)' thing#and like EVERY part of their identity is justified by being an outside force and not a choice#bleh#this character is inuit. they've also been interacting with norsemen.#one of the norsemen made one derogatory reference once to m/m sex and other than that it's been radio silence#the MC's male presentation has almost always been backed up by 'the gods wanted this' or 'it's just safer' or similar#there was some joy in breaking the rules in the middle of the book but it seems to have faded away#idk. it's interesting but it doesn't feel like the character is actually being treated as a) third gender or b) male#just as a Spirited Woman#the author's note and the blurb both use she/her exclusively. :/#oh AND bc there are norse characters we've also been talking about loki as genderweird and guess what#he/him exclusively except when in a female 'diguise'. :(
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