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I find it absolutely hilarious that after the Lotus Casino episode, we all complained that the trio having every trap and trick figured out on arrival was sucking the fun and suspense out of every scene…
…only for Episode 7 to literally begin with Percy explaining to everyone that he knows who Procrustes is and knows what his trick is in the first 30 seconds.
I literally bust out laughing.
Richard Riordan, I don’t know what you have against letting your 12 yr. old characters get deceived by something once in a while, but man, you need to let that hurt go and allow your 12 yr. old characters to get deceived by something once in a while. I don’t care how smart you want them to look; them literally knowing everything ahead of time is not nearly as much fun!
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One of things that really turned me off of the pjo world among lots of other things was that all the titans and primordials were portrayed as purely evil with no nuance or variety in morality. In the books, even Iapetus, who is labelled a "good" titan, was pretty much brainwashed into being benevolent.
Nyx was such a loving and devoted mother in mythology that she scared off Zeus when he tried to harm her son Hypnos. Prometheus went through excruciating pain on a daily basis just for humanity to have light and heat. Leto was described as kind and gentle and was the titan goddess of motherhood. Phoebe gave Apollo, her grandson, the oracle of Delphi as a gift. Oceanus, in some myths, helped Zeus overthrow Kronos by giving him a potion that would induce vomiting and release his siblings and he and Tethys pretty much raised Hera during the titanomachy. Helios was a loving father to Circe and all his kids and even saved her when a giant attacked her island. Etc, etc.
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glove23 · 4 months
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whoever thinks this adaption is good and accurate is an idiot. the pacing is bad the acting is bad the script is bad the transitions are horrible the changes they have made to the story are confusing and don't make sense and I feel sorry for anyone who is watching this show with no prior pjo experience bc it's absolutely nonsensical. why did they make gabes abuse less noticable, why are they villainizing grover, why did they make annabeth a mean stalker, why are there just random scenes that make absolutely zero sense
I don't understand why it's so hard to take a book and make it into a TV show when you literally have the guidelines right there. his dark materials did it (for the most part) the last of us did it from a video game. why can't they do it for pjo, why do we only get shit adaptions
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alatismeni-theitsa · 6 months
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The kind of mythology flex it is to be able to say "Hey! I'm a Real Alive Person and I was born and raised in mountain Πήλιο (Pelion), the actual mythical home of the Centaurs (and birthplace? If I'm not mistaken?)"
Because hey. I exist :)
And xenoi still think they're the rightful inheritors of Ancient Greek culture. Maddening to consider.
No bc back when I was reading Percy Jackson as a kid, I was so hurt to read the line where it said that the Greek Gods follow the path of "Πρόοδος" to the West and have "relocated to the US" or whatever. As a lil kid, my immediate reaction was
"WHY?! We're still here aren't we? Is Greece empty now? Is Olympos vacant? Why would Our Gods abandon us? What about the demigods born in Greece?"
It's a special kind of rage pain when you take into account ALL OF THE FUCKING STOLEN ANCIENT ARTIFACTS. That our culture often depicts them as being abducted. I've cried in frustration about this.
Haha, is that why everything's burning down? Because the Nyphes were (stolen?? again????) "relocated" and are no longer roaming the Greek forests? Is that why everything's flooding, because Poseidon is no longer here to regulate the Seas and Waters? Are we really Dying Off?
It's like plucking a beautiful flower from it's birthplace and trying to get it to get used to an environment it was not made to grow in. It's this level of absurdity. What the fuck.
That's why I'm a Greek Person studying Archaeology. We need more of us. Desperately.
My hands are shaking as I'm writing this and I'm slowly losing my mind about it :DDD
But to leave on a positive note. Hehe, mythology flex. I could have been born a Centaur if I really wanted to. Happily galloping away in the fields in the comfort of my own ignorance of our culture being ripped apart, dismembered and depicted as the gnarly bloody soulless mess the xenoi have made it be in mainstream media.
Ah, there's always next life. ^-^
I feel you, anon, and I've often felt the same as you. Our cultural heritage is rich and we are still here, a long line of people passing the Greek culture down. No matter what xenoi say, they will be eventually humbled by the truth if enough of us let the world know.
The PJO series did a big damage to us, matter how innocent it seems to the Westerners. If you check my #pjo and #rick riordan tags you'll see discussions about the books and of course the bigoted line "the gods abandoned Greece for the modern pillar of Western civilization, aka the US".
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june-sunsets · 2 months
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no, Rick, it's not
Like what do you mean Mount Olympus is the Empire State Building?? Last time I ckecked, Mount Olympus is a MOUNTAIN and it's in GREECE. 'Many of the locations of Greek mythology have also moved with Mount Olympus and can be found all over America'????? These are locations, not furniture!
Greece is a country that still exists, by the way, so why exactly would the Greek Gods (Greek, Rick, Greek) abandon it? Why would they leave their homeland?? Every time I remember that passage where Chiron is like "haha, Percy, western civilization is a liViNg fORce and it started in Greece" and "ohh it's a fire and the Gods follow wherever the flame is brightest uwu" I just- it's so stupid, it makes me want to pull my hair out. How on Earth did Riordan think that was okay to write? Did he really think it was valid justification for basically disconnecting the Greek gods and Greek culture from Greece and Greek people?
You know what this 'justification' reminds me of? This. They're both part of the same narrative.
Not even the camp- the goddamn camp for children whose parents are Greek Gods- is set in Greece. Riordan just made a US-flavored cake and sprinkled some Greek Mythology on top. Delicious.
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wanderingmind867 · 5 months
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I'm super pessimistic, so take this with a grain of salt, but I'm not too excited for the Percy Jackson show. I don't really know quite why, but I just don't feel too excited. So pardon me if I become overly negative as said show approaches. I'm just way too opinionated, and can't help ranting about things I don't have much of a personal stake in. But it just doesn't sound too exciting.
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readwithlivvy · 2 years
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after viewing everyone fawn over rick riordan since the pjo teaser dropped, i feel like people need to be reminded that rick riordan does not care about representation.
at. all.
in the first series, there were only two minority characters who were killed off violently.
in the second series, all of his "rep" is riddled with stereotypes and blatantly racist things. (he literally called frank a "chinese canadian baby man")
they either all have eurocentric features (piper and hazel), or are annoying (leo), or are rude to others (reyna and frank and samirah).
it's absolutely incredible that there is representation of different skin colours in the series and i think it's so important for kids to be able to see themselves in their heroes, but do not erase rick riordan's extremely racist and problematic past and label him as someone who always gave proper rep.
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brokenbackmountain · 3 months
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over 25000 palestinians dead and i'm STILL seeing pjo posts on my dash. your childhood faves (funded by zionists!) cannot possibly be more important than the lives of real living breathing people.
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thesebloodydays · 4 months
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So, I’ve watched the first three episodes of the pjo show and I’m really not feeling it. They just gave me confirmation that I’m over these books/the franchise. Oh well.
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vixnarts · 20 days
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The Percabeth community SUCKS
Okay, I’m going to share something about this. The Percabeth fans suck.. especially when I post stuff that isn’t related to the ship. Anytime I talk about even something else, they unfollow me or block me. I posted a Valgrace piece and they unfollowed me. It makes me so mad considering I always have to talk about and share Percabeth art. I really wish I didn’t actually start drawing Percabeth because that ship is so overrated and overused. I do love it but I hate the fans of the ship.. I can’t even do anything. I can’t talk about my ocs or other ships.. it always has to be Percabeth this and Percabeth that.. Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth Percabeth.
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There are many things that frustrate me with the writing of Annabeth in the PJO TV Show, but I think one thing that I haven’t seen people talk much about is the mini-arc of Percy needing to help Annabeth with her sense of fun/humanity.
Just so we’re clear, I absolutely hate this arc.
Prior to the show’s premiere, I believe there was a quote from Rick discussing new-ish things that we’d see in the show, and one of those things was Percy helping Annabeth “tap into her humanity”. I can’t find the exact quote, but it should be on the series update Twitter account if you search it.
When I first read this quote, I wasn’t exactly sure what it meant, but I thought maybe we’d get an expansion of the theme of forgiveness that we got in the original books, or maybe we’d get an arc about Annabeth’s pride and how that gets in the way of her relationships with others. Or maybe they’d try and break down the ways in which Annabeth helps to uphold the gods’ ways of doing things, and align her more with the mortal point of view (which they essentially did, but not the overall point).
What I certainly wasn’t expecting was for them to strip Annabeth of most, if not, all of her smaller/softer traits, and give her this unusually stoic and stiff personality, where she suddenly has no familiarity with casual aspects of the mortal world (movies, Disney world, common idioms), and needs Percy to introduce these concepts to her in an effort to “unlock” her humanity.
What.
The.
Fuck.
Words cannot emphasize enough how much I despise this arc. Not only is it entirely nonsensical for Annabeth not to be familiar with these things (she was with her dad at least until the age of 7 and she goes to a camp full of other children who are regularly in contact with the mortal world; do you seriously expect me to believe that at no point in her 12 years of life, she never saw a single film, heard of Disneyworld, or heard common idioms and slang terms from her camp-mates? Seriously???)
But ALSO!
Book!Annabeth had PLENTY of humanity to go around! Even with her pride and initial coldness towards Percy, she plays hackeysack with him and Grover on the first day of their quest! She has a cute silly crush/admiration/infatuation on Luke. She nerds out big time over the St. Louis Arch! She’s the first to steal clothing from Waterland! She screams and cries when she encounters the mechanical spiders! She has an expression of sadness when she shares her backstory about Thalia and Luke! She gets lost in her little construction game at the Lotus, so much so that Percy has to use her phobia to pull her out of the trance! She grabs Percy’s hand when they first enter the Underworld because she’s scared! She tears up when it’s time to leave Cerberus!
And you stripped her of all these things, because you’re so desperate to overemphasize the Percabeth romance, and you felt that it was absolutely necessary to have Percy educate Annabeth on “unlocking humanity”??? Why!!!!
Not only did Book!Percy help Annabeth discuss things about bad parents and approaching forgiveness, but Book!Percy already had something important to offer Annabeth: loyalty, trustworthiness, and reliability. You didn’t need to take away her already-present traits and wits to convince us that Percy was the type of person she needed in her life, because we can already see what he offers her in the books. So why oh why did you feel the need to give us the silly “tap into your humanity” arc? Why did you turn her personality into something that it wasn’t? Why did you take away her depth just so her character could better serve Percabeth?
I don’t even necessarily agree with the criticism that this version of Annabeth feels like it prioritizes Percabeth more, but I can see why people made that complaint. Y’all took away so much of what made this character endearing, because you felt like it was a much bigger priority to have Percy help her unlock humanity than to let her be human prior to meeting him and outside of him. Not only does her personality get shafted, but her relationships with other people get shafted too! Her interactions with Luke are affection-less, she sent Grover off on his own in the Lotus so she could go off with Percy, and I don’t even think that she and Chiron interacted once this season; I don’t even think she mentioned the part about her calling him to come pick her up after she attempted living at home again!
But don’t worry; we’ll get plenty of scenes doubling down and tripling down on how Percy is the center of her world now! Yay!
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me, a mythology nerd, to Rick Riordan:
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smol-blue-bird · 2 months
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my little sister made my dad watch the entirety of the new Percy Jackson miniseries on Disney+, and when it was over, he just turned to me and said “well, I didn’t like it”
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alatismeni-theitsa · 4 months
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I liked the new Percy Jackson adaptation so far but it looks like they're going with the "Medusa is a victim" storyline and I. Am. So. Tired
I haven't bothered with the PJO series so far because this franchise gets progressively more and more USAmerican in how they "reimagine" (red flag) our myths and what they deem problematic 😐
It surprises me little that the West is westing again 😂 The Murican girls will get their inaccurate girlboss moment for the year
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dualogical · 2 months
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Why does every media I followed recently ended up disappointing me?
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apollomes-supremacy · 2 years
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Part two of this post
Okay this one is more my opinion than the general consensus, but I really think Dionysus would dress like a pothead hippie, and a very queer one
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