#cas is kind

[shallowseeker]

Love yourself, love your child

I'm going to add the quotes later, and this is SO rambley it probably belongs in @shallowtakes where it can be properly hidden away, but I LOVE my three un-wise men (king, god, and death) as parents and I adore where they go wrong with Jack Kline, because they're all in such in varied states of arrested development due to growing up as child soldiers.

I have a lot of SPN parenting takes like this, so it's a bit of me saying what I always say, but boy is it fun to think about! When I see other posts talking about this, I have to revisit it. I love #spn parenting and I trouble myself with it so often.

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Because, I mean, Cas didn't protect Jack, not at the end. No one did. He let him eat angel hearts and went along with Death's plan, for starters, using Jack as the primary weapon against God. Cas did that, and Dean was actually a little wary / disapproving of the eating-hearts at first, remember? This is because Cas has a toxic, angelic relationship to destiny, fate, and the cause. He's spinning it like overcoming God is a beautiful, good thing. (And who knows? Maybe it is?) But the point is that, while Cas is not motivated by revenge, per se, the end result IS the same. That's how angels do. They're righteous.

That's Cas in a nutshell, dressing the authoritarian good-king-fallacy-mission up in lovely words and declarations of goodness, but what he's really doing is imposing a new child king onto the holy throne and calling it, "good for the world." Ultimately, that's too much to put on yourself, or anyone, especially your kid. Chuck had similar expectations of Lucifer, remember? With Amara and the mark. It's heavily implied that he thought Lucifer was bright and good enough to withstand that burden!

<Insert Cas and Dean conversation about defeating Chuck, but one is motivated by destiny and the other by revenge; both result in doing terrible things to win the fight>

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But what does Jack want? He wants:

14x07 (Unhuman Nature), Dean and Jack discuss his dying wished

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Cas partially comes to his senses when Jack tells him the depth of Billie's plan, but the devastating truth remains that Cas was marshalling him as super-soldier in the first place. It's not until after Jack explodes via rib-bomb that Cas more completely comes to his senses. That is, he gives the wonderful, "we love you for being you," speech, but, like Dean's fretting and care in 15x19, it's technically too late for it. (But wait! The overarching point of SPN is it's never too late. You can start being good any time.)

Anyway, Cas loves Jack dearly, and he tries his best, but he is completely shaped by being an angel, and Jack absorbs the self-hating parts of being an angel, too, I'm sure. Cas woobies humanity and puts it up on a pedestal because of the nature of the devastating moral injuries and disillusionment Cas suffered as Heaven's solder. Cas becomes the dreaded blue-collar soldier loyal to family instead. Still, power and the use of it is this awful phantom specter embedded within Cas and Jack's relationship. "This child must be born with his full power."

<Insert Cas quote about Jack being okay as-is from 15x18>

Cas, like Sam, is genuinely horrified when he finds out about Jack's suicide, and indeed, he goes off to look for another way. But the fact is, prior to being faced with Jack's suicidal plan, he wholly submitted to Jack's BIG DESTINY the same way Dean submitted to REVENGE and Sam propped up INDEPENDENCE.

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By the eleventh hour, Jack has wholly absorbed the toxic heroism and penance-making of all three of them. There's also quite a lot of self-hatred that goes unsaid, especially after he regains his soul, because he loved Mary. (Mary called Jack Sweetheart. She loved Jack.) But she is heavily implied to choose to use him as weapon in Game Night.

<Game Night quote about Mary choosing to use Jack to defeat Nick, despite the danger, "even if she knew...she'd still do it">

This is due to all of them being shaped by constant, neverending war their entire lives. :(

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While Sam verbally disagrees with Jack wanting to sacrifice himself, Sam values INDEPENDENCE so much that he doesn't fully step in to block the move, until it's too late and Jack is already in countdown mode. He won't override Jack's autonomy to protect him (even though arguably, THIS is a lot of what parenting and family support is: trying to walk that line of independence vs safety).

<Sam quote from 15x17 about sacrificing yourself being wrong>

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Season 15 is beautiful in some ways because it showcases all of their individual neuroses wrapped into one. They all over-prioritize the mission, and heartbreakingly, maybe they have to in order to stay alive / on-the-air. (Audience are the monsters demanding sacrifice, perhaps.)

Dean treats Jack like Dean often treats himself, as a weapon to complete revenge. He allows Jack to go off and be a bomb (Amara-callback; no one stopped Dean then; he brutally dissociates Jack from the concept of family in order to do it because unlike Sam and Cas, Dean can't as easily allow familial sacrifice; so, Jack becomes weapon).

Cas wants Jack to rise up and meet his destiny and become the new God (that bit's implied, but wrapped in pretty "good-for-the-world" language). Cas has said of himself, "I overestimated my own (military) importance" and he does the same to Jack. Jack is going to be the merciful, purely-good human-angel-god that Cas could never be. Jack can withstand the corrupting forces of power because he's good.

Sam is overall a very safe role model, even if he at times expects to "mold" Jack (13x01) and laments that "Jack is who he is, not who Sam wants him to be" (14x20). Sam also falls prey to the "I and I alone can fix this," mistake that is somewhat penultimate to SPN, except that he applies it to Jack, with "You're the only one who can (defeat Chuck)." Ultimately, in 14x17, Sam over-prioritizes independence at the expense of safety, verbally disagreeing but ultimately allowing Jack to do the heroic sacrifice; Sam is thus also treating Jack like he treats himself.

THESIS: The tragedy of it all is...they love their son as they love themselves; that is, HOW they love Jack reflects their individual FAILURE to love themselves as they are.

#spn parenting #anyway it's not so much about stereotypes #cas is kind #dean is a caretaker who feeds jack and soothes his nightmares and shares his music #sam is a confidante #but they all make critical mistakes #sam and dean were going to put jack in a box #the very same episode cas reaches for the exact same solution #it's a glorious mess #and it's true cas protects jack at critical moments #but he puts the weight of the friggin universe of his shoulders like it's some birthright and devastatingly maybe it IS #it's also about the terrible circumstances that chuck has groomed them into accepting and is actively pushing them into

[sensitivesiren]

just a reminder it's canon that Dean took Castiel to Hot Topic to pick out a grumpy cat plushie for Claire's birthday.

#dean holding up the toy next to cas #hey it kind of looks like you #cas tilts his head and frowns #what resemblance could i have to this disgruntled feline? #nevermind #she's gonna love it #PLEASE #supernatural #destiel #castiel #dean winchester #deancas #dean x castiel #classicmeg #meta

[sunglassesmish]

i love him a lot

#my gifs #misha collins #it's kind of #cas #the first two is the face cas made when dean said 'the last person who looked at me like that i got laid'

[hauntedpearl]

imagine if castiel (godstiel?) single-handedly created the omegaverse in real life because he's sick of dean's weird hangups about his sexuality. cas just omega-fies himself and is like. well. see. this way you are still heterosexual.

#idk what is up with me today i am thinking about castiel pussy #doe is talking again #maybe they should stop huh maybe they should shut up #BUT WHY I ASK THIS IS A FREE WORLD #anyway. patient zero castiel. #omegafication beam turned on whoever #patient zero castiel #i did not think about thr politics of this yet btw this thought literally just occured to me #also knotting? that is a cas kink. he added that feature. #cas posting #nsft. kind of.

[butch--dean]

I was housed by your warmth / thus, transformed

my manifesto on dean's relationship with love and faith and what it means to be saved <3

hozier // shrike - yt

#I would be remiss not to call out how much Grey disabled-dean helped with this project <3 #this amv would not have happened without you!!! I appreciate your support and kind words and brainstorming so much <3 #this is the best one I've made yet I think? and I'm sooooo deeply proud of it tbh #also! fun fact! the colors for the filter overlay were picked from cas’s tie and trenchcoat in the barn scene #and dean’s jacket and lip during the confession <3 #my amvs #my stuff #supernatural #destiel #deancas #supernatural amv #destiel amv #spnamvarchive #spncreatorsdaily #hoziernatural #1k

[disinhume]

He's not very good at teaching anyone how to cook

#cas wearing an apron on top of his trench coat was such a funny idea to me. No clue what clothes are actually for #cas also tuned dean out super hard and is only kind of sort of aware of what he's talking about #I love to eat caramelized onions but I hate to make them >:/ #castiel #dean winchester #destiel #spn #supernatural #my art

[tricoufamily]

if you're wondering why bob is here it's bc in the original villareal story there was a very minor background detail that diego lobo and bob pancakes dated in college and broke up tragically and that's where the story peaked. so i included him it's still canon

thank you for these it was so fun!!!!!!!!!!!!

i did these in my this is the fall sim style so i'm thinking. if they exist in this universe what's all their opinions on the 'did jacques do it' situation. let's take a look

don: saw a photo of jacques's wife on the news during the investigation. said "whoa mama that's a hot babe!" like johnny bravo and did not read the headline. does not know anything about it still.

vlad: well he's psychic he could figure out the truth if he actually cared. and he has!

olive: obviously respects it. except for the getting investigated part, would never happen to her.

diego: does not think jacques did it but enjoys the tabloids. knows other rich people personally who he thinks have killed their spouses

morgyn: will post things like "friendly reminder that j*cques v*llareal literally killed his wife and is a billionaire so maybe don't go to one of their hotels" on tumblr and will then do a call out post about like a fanfic writer who wrote an unhealthy relationship with more severity

pascal: knows conspiracy theories and this one is bullshit. or maybe it just doesn't interest him as much as aliens and that's why he thinks that

jeb: has a very "well of course he did. them rich folk can do whatever they want. there ain't no hope for the rest of us" while kicking a can down the road approach

bob: thinks he did it. is very alarmed that it was brushed off. eliza's like bob book the hotel and he's like am i going crazy. does anyone hear me.

#olive and pascal do NOT exist in this is the fall strangetown has their own universe but it's still fun #i really need to finish remaking all of strangetown #for the record human vlad works for the company high up he knows jacques. he keeps his feelings on the matter private. #but anyway yes bob and diego. both from small towns met in college. diego was in drag and bob thought he was a woman #then was still attracted to him out of drag and had a months long spiral about his sexuality it was a thing #they just wanted different things. it wouldn't have worked. bob likes small towns. he wanted to stay and have a house and a family #diego wanted the exact opposite. they had to part ways. bob still thinks about him laying awake at night. kind of a lot #bob is like he probably doesn't think about me at all anymore he's definitely moved on. no diego thinks about him a lot too #the ones that got away #ts4 #ts4 cas #ts4 edit #the sims 4 #townie makeover #townie makeovers #don lothario #vladislaus straud #olive specter #diego lobo #morgyn ember #pascal curious #jeb harris #bob pancakes #this is the fall: extras

[lizleeships]

Listen I don’t make the rules, the thirst shirt does

(Don’t repost plz)

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Ko-Fi

#forgive me zaddy for I have sinned #misha #also kind of cas #men and their slutty arms

[l-e-i-k-o]

𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕡𝕒𝕟𝕔𝕒𝕜𝕖𝕤.

#3/30 something sims done for my NSB SAVE. #thank the heavens. #okok so #hear me out #my nsb gen 2 sim has a kid with iggy pancakes #his name is nico #IGGY is a deadbeat daddy though. LOL #eliza and bob are split up #opposites do nottt attract #i felt like they stayed together for awhile for iggy but... after awhile they just kind decided to give it a rest #eliza got remarried to a wealthy man #they have 2 cats <3 #bob owns his own restaurant! #i gave bob some tats too #iggy rarely speaks to any of his parents #and he has a bad gambling problem #my sims #the sims 4 #ts4 #sims 4 #ts4 cas #create a sim #show us your sims #simblr #townie makeovers

[seasononesam]

Obviously, I want to get Mom and Jack back. It’s all I want. It’s all I can think about. But we’ve been down this road before. Teaming up with Lucifer - We’re not teaming up with him.

#supernatural #spn #sam winchester #dean winchester #cas #castiel #spnedit #supernaturaledit #* #ideologically i don't agree with season 13 but they kind of went off with all the lucifer and sam angst

[casdeans-pie]

Dean and Cas go on a solo hunt and it goes entirely to plan - it's like everything they do works out perfectly, they have some insane luck, and they solve the case and save the day without anymore casualties or injuries.

Dean is a little confused over how well it went, because their track record isn't usually that squeaky clean easy-breezy, but he's buzzing at the easy hunt either way.

and Cas is like, well it IS Thursday.

????? What does it being Thursday have to do with anything?? Dean says, fond.

So Cas explains that he's the Angel Of Thursday, of course. so he's extra lucky and things just always naturally go his way on Thursdays.

and Dean has to take a moment. has to hold up his hand and take a moment. because. because this whole time. if they'd have had Cas with them on hunts. on Thursdays. they'd have all been this easy???

Cas considers this and is like, I believe so, yes. isn't it strange that I've never been along on a hunt on a Thursday before now :)

while Dean's whole world view has just shifted and he's figuring out how to tell Sam they can only ever go out on hunts on Thursdays from now on as long as they have Cas with them whilst simultaneously like, Angel of THURSDAY? The day? Thursday? What all the badass titles were taken when they gave you yours??

When Cas goes :( Dean has to reassure him that Thursday is a GREAT day actually. Best day of the week! And they spend the whole ride back talking about cool stuff that happened on Thursdays.

#i dont even know what this is but I should be sleeping and it made me smile #angel of thursday #just seems like such a cute title and I love if it gave Cas some kind of insane luck on Thursdays #and Desn doesnt figure it out for YEARS #destiel #destiel ficlet #destiel headcanon #pie's fanfiction #domestic destiel #castiel

[420technoblazeit]

which one of them is this about? yes.

#also i KNOW htat's actually lucifer possessing cas and it's kind of obvious from the expression but i coudlnt find a better group photo so. #supernatural #spn #team free will #extended team free will #castiel #rowena macleod #sam winchester #dean winchester #crowley macleod #crowley spn #the pig squeals #spn spoilers #supernatural spoilers

[birdietrait]

went a little bit more maxis than usual

#ts4 #ts4 cas #ts4 simblr #simblr #show us your sims #idk i'm in a sim making rut and i kind of hate every sim i make JSKDJS #but i wanted to post her anyway #maybe i can forcibly remove myself from it this way lol

[paellegere]

something i enjoy about wincest is that i can just take it for granted. like yeah those brothers are fucking, they've always been fucking, and they'll keep fucking until god himself cuts off their dicks

there's a lot of ships in the world that require subtext and imagination but samdean is definitely not one of them

#liveblogging: supernatural #wincest #i enjoy those kinds of ships bc yeah you can ship whoever else you want with the characters #but you still have to acknowledge whatever the fuck is going on between these two #i think these types of ships allow for pretty unique conversations about them and the story they inhabit so they're fun #sure cas and dean can date but friday night is wincest sex night and cas just has to accept that. it's like that kinda thing #yknow what i'm talking about? am i making any sense #their relationship is so central to who these characters are that you can't construe them in any way without each other there #at least not believably #.txt

[nefarrilou]

Promt: Bunny 🐇 Follow the White Rabbit ⏱️❤️

#In my mind the white rabbit is kind of the social bunny from sims 2 (>ᴗ•) ! #the sims 4 #sims 4 #sims 4 halloween #maadhalloween #the forgotten ones cas #imaginary friend #white rabbit #alice in wonderland #simstober #simblreen #ts4 cas challenge #ts4 movie

[quietwingsinthesky]

it ever hit you out of nowhere that castiel is living in a dead guy's body and the show just does not care. it does not care. jimmy novak might as well not exist the moment he or claire is out of sight. cas stole a guy's body and his face and his life, and we can't ever talk about it or discuss it in detail because of how fucking horrifying it is that sam and dean's best friend just walks around in a dead guy suit. there's not even a human soul in there anymore. it's just a corpse. stone-cold body snatcher indeed.

#castiel spn #spn #this is not like a Castiel Crime (tm) to be clear. this is more me being (un)surprised that the show is Like This. #castiel is a horror story he is so much a horror story in the rapture #and then they just uh. never bring up again how horrifying and fucked up this is for another like 7 seasons #and when they do its to briefly go :( claire lost her dad :) but its okay! she forgives cas for it! #which!! NO SHE SHOULD FUCKING NOT!!! #but we can't have that discussion. we can't talk about that. because to acknowledge that it's fucked up would mean making cas kind of. evil #in a way that would vastly improve his later character arcs btw. if we had to reckon with not only this massive transgression #but with the fact that cas himself STILL DOESN'T SEE IT AS ONE. #that on a lot of fundamental levels. he is still functioning as he did in s4. a lot of that base programming is still there. #something something how cas never changes out of his suit under his trenchcoat #but it's like. jimmy said yes. so it's fine. that's what it is to him. #anyway. i wish they hadn't been scared of making all three of the boys more fucked up in later seasons. #thank GOD for dean being interesting in how he becomes Worse <3 because they were not bringing that for castiel. #again. good version of spn where jimmy's bloodline is an off-shoot of the lucifer vessel bloodline. explaining a) how lucifer Got In There #and b) letting lucifer possess claire later so that the two of them can have daddy issues together. #something about cas being the monster-not monster that jimmy let in that destroyed his life. #something about lucifer being the monster-not monster that castiel lets in later. the cycles. they are cycling.