#critical role salt

[widobravely]

cr2 ending like it did really fucked a lot of us up huh

#cr2 #critical role salt #i just want y'all to know that i see u and i understand u. #cr salt

[hanatsuki-esperanza]

Unpopular Critical Role Opinion: The Group Should Have TPK-ed in Episode 34.

Instead, we got Imogen becoming even more of a Main Character and unlocking stupid OP Anime-Protagonist Level powers in addition to her already OP Plot Armor. Otohan could have easily killed Bell’s Hells and she would have in any other campaign.

TPKs were extremely common in older editions where the mentality of DM-vs-PCs was more prevalent, and while that mentality has lessened, TPKs still happen all the time in DnD campaigns. 5e and the new edition make it even harder to kill PCs, but TPKs aren’t always a bad thing. It gives the players and DM a chance to restart the plot from a new angle. Sure, you lose the characters you’re attached to, but that’s just how the dice roll sometimes. While you can tell stories in DnD, at it’s core, DnD is a game of strategy and chance. You roll dice to determine outcomes and the potential for failure exists at the heart of the game. Yes, the characters are comforting to people, and we want them to succeed through it all, but it’s exciting and real when you don’t know if a character will survive, versus if you know they’ll survive to the end of the campaign.

We’ll never see a TPK on Critical Role, which is unfortunate. In Critical Role, the characters here are too important to lose, especially the Imogen ex Machina. (Also, from the way the fandom reacted when possible 3/7 PCs were in danger of not being revived, if a TPK actually did happen, the fandom would implode).

#critical role #unpopular opinion #the imogen show #main character syndrome #critical role salt #imogen ex machina #it's okay to fail #tpk #tpks happen to everyone #unless you're the main character #a certain unnamed cr character #i'm probably going to get flamed for my opinions #oh well #see if i care #hanatsuki esperanza

[puwumats]

salting the post below with rocks. if you even care.

#critical role #cr #critrole #critical role spoilers #mighty nein #m9 #the mighty nein reunited #mighty nein reunited #mighty nein oneshot #SALT BAE MATT FOR THE BELOVEDS

[vethbrenatto]

500 Fucks, Freely Given

#critical role #bells hells #ashton greymoore #creations #taliesin jaffe #remember when i said i was making something stupid.... #it's this #for context these are 80 gifs of ashton saying fuck #obviously not the full 500 because that would be crazy and im not crazy #also the colors on the text are pulled directly from ashton's hair skin jacket and hammer #and so i leave you with my favorite ashton fuck: #LICK SALT FUCKERS!

[jnoll]

// cw: blood, injury, laudna trauma

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#im sorry #for any salt this rubs into wounds after recent laudna developments #this is a cropped wip of something that has made my finger cramp #critical role #cr3 #critical role fanart #critical role art #laudna #bells hells #cr spoilers #blood cw #blood #I have a hc that laudna developed the nervous tic of combing her hair with her fingers excessively #to the point of pulling her hair out #after the night she spent vehemently trying to rid the blood and feather bristles and braid from her hair #and several nights after #dealing with the phantom sensation #((: #yeah sorry

[reilora-borealis]

We’re all familiar with Liam’s love of Shakespearean tragedy so here’s a thing I just thought of

Vax as Macbeth: man encounters a dark witch who tells him he’s fated to become an incredibly powerful harbinger of death, and even though he doesn’t really want it and doesn’t know what he’s doing, he has no choice but to march toward that fate, losing everything he holds dear in the process

Caleb as Hamlet: man begins to uncover the corruption under which he lives and spends the rest of his life scheming to get revenge on the people who killed his family, but he questions his own mind so much that he retreats into self-doubt and cowardice (bonus points if Astrid and Eadwulf are both Rosencrantz and Gildenstern AND Ophelia and Laertes)

Orym as Othello (?): man trained to be a loyal soldier slowly descends into madness and cruelty, turning against those he loves as his humanity is stripped away and he becomes nothing but a pawn in a villain’s game (this is making me wonder if/when Dorian comes back, Orym might be so broken by betrayal and distrust that he’s gone completely cold or lashes out at him)

Obviously Orym’s story arc is incomplete so this is purely conjecture, and ofc there’s a lil flavor of many different influences in all these characters. But I woke up at 7am on a Sunday bolt upright with this in my head and I needed to write it down

#I have a thing about shakespeare AUs #please take this with a grain of salt #liam o'brien #vax'ildan #caleb widogast #orym of the air ashari #orym #vax #dorym #critical role #vox machina #the mighty nein #bells hells #cr cast

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

people who infantilize or woobify hordak are just as bad as people who do the same thing with catra.

there i said it.

#hordak is arguably a better character than catra #but he's not an innocent uwu bat baby #he's still a war criminal who was responsible for an entire war #i swear some fans act like hordak's only role in spop was to be entrapta's cute pathetic bf #spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #she ra #anti spop #anti stans

[lvl2druid]

I am now shopping Callowmoore simply because I like the idea of the goat lady using rock them as a salt lick

#what part is the salt lick? #you decide #critical role #critrole #cr c3 #callowmoore #ashton greymoore #fearne calloway #i still miss laudna and ashton tho

[yashley]

honestly i love that robbie is playing a dick like i literally hope howard just never. changes. never softens. he is just a crank the whole way cos robbie’s killing it

#critical role #cr lb #candela obscura #if a man named howard ever was that rude to me i'd throw hands but it's robbie and i'm like never change PLEASE #he's like s pinch of salt on this group and it's SO good for me

[jout--jout]

since yall liked the sam 🏳️‍🌈? meme so much here have some more

#critical role #cr #critical role memes #cr memes #*salt baes these silly shitty memes over to the world* #silly little memes are the only thing im good at making #but i make 'em with love #bells hells #mighty nein #vox machina

[stardustedknuckles]

The alternative to "either the campaign ends or the world does" is very simply "there is a third scenario in which the world doesn't end because that wasn't actually the intent and our heroes have just been confirmed to be missing something very big." it's not all or nothing. Ludinus doesn't KNOW what setting Predathos free will do. Folks are ASSUMING it can just jump out and gobble up divinity immediately and nobody can fight it, which clearly isn't true since it's been locked away before. Nothing is ending, certainly not all at once. There's something else going on.

#They've literally said in interviews they're kicking around with this another year or so #Critical role #The world ending is what the characters know and fear #As watchers we have the meta knowledge that it's not going to go that way so what else is there #Bells hells #I would've phrased it more nicely but I feel like hot salted garbage so vaguely cantankerous is what we get today #We might lose some in the zenith of the fight but who says that's going to be right now #The solstice is when things are meant to kick off #It doesn't have to mean instant apocalypse

[distant--shadow]

#imodna #imogen temult #laudna #critical role #finger painting in both technique (still got no tablet so we're laptop trackpadding it) and subject matter #colours making me slow down and spend more time on proportions and volume though so the slowed pace is good #colouring oldies #when will my road be salted

[hanatsuki-esperanza]

I actually agree with you about Imogen. I just don't mesh with her and I think it's because she carries herself like a main character and D&D shouldn't have a main character over the other PC. Unfortunately, I think much like how C2 BBEG was tied heavily to Molly/Lucien from the start, C3 plot/BBEG is going to be heavily tied to Imogen which means her story will be center of everything. Which, for me, kind of makes it more of a campaign issue than just a character issue at this point. I don't care about the story because I don't care about the character leading it. Hopefully I'm wrong and Laudna or Ashton will have more pull in the plot because those two and their deals are more compelling.

The thing about D&D is there is no one main character; it is a group game and Chapter 1 of the PHB (page 15, section 6. Come Together) says as much. Characters who have "main character syndrome" naturally do not mesh in a game where each character is part of a unique group, because they see themselves as more important than everyone else. At that point, it's not D&D, it's an anime or similar show, where the main character has their own adventure while everyone else is along for the ride.

Tying a character's backstory to an arc boss is perfectly fine, it encourages a player to develop a fun backstory and encourages the dungeon master to integrate backstories. However, when a dungeon master allows one character's backstory to become more important than others', then it becomes a problem. Without the central character who is tied to the BBEG, it falls flat. It forces the dungeon master to give them plot armor to keep the BBEG relevant.

Vecna being the BBEG in C1 worked because no one character could claim him. It was built up slowly but couldn't stop, much like an avalanche. When Molly died, Matt was probably thrown for how to bring the party back to the Lucien and the Tombtakers.

So Imogen being made into the main character with the moon being the BBEG isn't necessarily Laura's fault. Instead, it falls on Matt to balance things out. Which given how things happened in C2, there's precedence for a repeat performance of C2, but it's too early to say either way.

That being said, Imogen isn't wholly innocent. It's one thing to be pulled into the main character spotlight, but it's another to carry yourself as a main character and disregard the others. There are tons of horror stories on r/rpghorrorstories, YouTube, and similar sites about characters who think themselves the main character and make it a problem for everyone at the table. High-profile games such as Critical Role are not exempt from this.

I would have to agree that Laudna (Delilah) and Ashton (Hexum) have more interesting backstories than Imogen, with the potential to shape C3 and the boss fights. Also, given the FCG Lore Bombdrop in Episode 26, there’s potential as well. That being said, given the precedence of C2, I doubt Matt will make them anything more than arc villains. I would love to be proven wrong, but...

If Matt takes one of the backstory enemies and makes them a throwaway, afterthought boss like he did with Trent Ikithon at the end of C2, then that’s going to be a problem. And yes, I am still incredibly disappointed by that. The Mighty Nein could have gone to Level 20 and then taken on Ickything, but no, Matt had him show up like an afterthought after the Lucien fight, because otherwise he would have been a loose thread at the campaign end. Matt could have even had a oneshot devoted to the Mighty Nein vs Trent, similar to the Search for Grog, but nooo, the Ikithon fight came out of left field the moment they took their amulets off...

#critical role #unpopular opinion #the imogen show #main character syndrome #d&d #critical role campaign 3 #critical role campaign 2 #d&d is a group game #critical role salt #a certain unnamed cr character #hot take on imogen temult #temult #ikithon #tealeaf #salt #askbox #askbox answered #hanatsuki esperanza

[utilitycaster]

Dear party member,

By the time you read this, I'll be dead. This is how I think it's going to happen. The shadow assassins will attack me, then I'll attack Otohan, then Laudna will enter and get attacked by Otohan, then you'll come in and get attacked by the shadow assassins and Otohan multiple times. Love, your party member, Orym.

P. S. Then two members of the Gajakhandas will read this letter and attack each other.

#for a bonus look up the artist who wrote Hide and Seek #critical role #just setting the tone: it will be respectful to the cast as people. it will not be remotely reverent towards anything #i will keep salt from the tags. i will not keep tasteless jokes from the tags. that's a promise.

[they-call-me-haiku]

you know, i think huntlow could have worked if they weren't forced into the whole girlboss x malewife dynamic.

if we just had hunter being sassy and sardonic as always, but with a soft spot for willow and willow being chill and mature, acting as hunter's common sense when he needed it, i think it could have been a cute ship. not necessarily the best or most well-written ship, but it wouldn't have been as unbearably awkward and forced as the huntlow we have now.

it's not like the show has a deficiency in physically strong female characters anyway. almost all the female characters in toh were headstrong women and great fighters.

and you know, willow could still be a skilled witch, since she was introduced as one. she just doesn't need to be rescuing hunter all the time, because it doesn't make sense for her to be stronger than the literal child soldier who was put through torturous training.

#like i mentioned in the previous post #hunter and willow could have been like sokka and suki #where suki is still an amazing warrior and an independent woman in her own right #but she isnt constantly pushed into the girlboss role she's a badass when she needs to be #anti huntlow #toh critical #the owl house #toh #toh criticism #toh salt #anti toh #anti huntl0w #toh discourse

[foundfamilynonsense]

I like how the party was like “yo could we buy horses?” And Matt was like “well you’re in Xhorhas! So the only mounts you find are these terrifying monsters that are expensive and hard to feed and might kill you”

And when they buy the monsters literally Everyone they meet is like “why do you have monsters, that’s so weird.” And three episodes later they notably run into a guy riding a horse like it’s normal.

#the fact that they teleported to the capital is also just…. #rubbing salt in the wound #like I was so happy when the maurbounders ran off but they fucking found them again #like. if there are no horses then everyone who travels should have things like this #but…. there was a horse #so why was Matt like ‘all you can find are these monsters’ #critical role