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viscountessevie · 2 years

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Part 2: What The Cast Should Have Done

READ PART 1 FIRST - IT’S THE MAIN FOCUS

First off, I would like to say I’m disappointed at myself for prematurely bringing up Jonny’s name before I had these two posts written up. I shouldn’t have done that at all. Clarifying my point again too early made it worse. Suddenly, even though my original post asked about what you all thought of Regé posting his story and his POV, my ask box was just either flooded with defending/being curious about what Jonny did or being against him for this. It completely ended up centring the conversation on Regé’s white cast mates.

This was on me for prematurely bringing up Jonny’s name and not thinking it through, and I deeply regret that. Also definitely time for us to check our bias & blindspots as always, to think about how and why we quickly started talking more about Jonny.

That being said, here's my points along with the takeaways I’ve gotten after hearing my friends (the same ones tagged in Part 1!) out on this. A special shoutout to Triv @hptriviachamp who pretty much co-wrote this with me since she provided her thoughts/answers to my asks so I’ll be quoting her most of them time below.

Okay so I’ve said this a couple times before but going to reiterate it one last time. I only placed importance on Jonny before because I don’t expect shit from the rest of them and Phoebe is already pretty much being written out of the show at this point. However that aside, the onus is not just on Jonny or Phoebe to protect their onscreen partners but the whole cast and crew could have done what ROP and Kenobi did.

ROP made the solidarity statement seen in Regé’s story which can be found here. With Kenobi, they had Ewan McGregor, a representative of the show aka the face/star of the show, to speak out for everyone.

From the chronically online NC to no social media Luke T/Claudia: all these people, especially white people, have the power to do/say something. Luke could find another way to communicate this. Nicola could learn and stop saying bullshit. They have interviews and live events they always do. Yt people don't know how to be allies or even what an ally is - this is very apparent in our own fandom as well.

Now I’m bringing in my anons to further illustrate these points and expand on them! So I've gotten a couple of different anons with conflicting views. I think it's one of those situations where both things can be true so I am putting all of them here to let them speak for themselves before elaborating:

Triv: It’s upsetting that "they'd never do it" but we should try to hold them to a higher standard anyway

Yeah we know this, that the Production side especially the higher ups you listed along with JQ and some cast members - we all know who - perpetuate this. However, if they really wanted sell this ‘great’ “diversity is why we are set apart from other media” lie to us even more, a solidarity statement when #NotMyDuke was trending or racist hate at Simone and Charithra was being thrown, would have definitely shown the cast of colour they had the support of their show.

Production can pretend not to perpetuate it all they want, but showing that kind of solidarity and support against racist 'fans' would have gone a long way and made the cast of colour feel safer. Like Triv said it's about holding them to a higher and better standard and honestly it's THE LEAST Regé deserved especially as a lead and draw of S1. [Of course goes without saying this applies to Simone in S2 as well.]

(Also Anon I’m guessing you may have sent this ask to Mimi? We don’t have to agree with everything and that’s okay! I have friends on both sides of the Kathony subfandom and I never fully agree with any of them lol. Some like Showina a little more than I do and some dislike (putting it lightly oop) Showina a little more than I do. It’s our difference is what makes us unique and the important thing is grounding ourselves, respecting and putting each other first - anyways if this not you nor about me oops ignore this but a good side lesson for everyone nonetheless)

With this ask in particular, I understand your frustration but we really need to look at this situation through the lens of intersectionality which I can provide as a queer POC. While it's no oppression Olympics, I will say growing up I did get more racially charged abuse swung my way than I did for being queer. Then again, this is my personal experience.

I think we can all respect Jonny, his sexuality and acknowledge that he does get hate for it and call it out. At the same time, we can point out that he along with the rest of the white cast could have done more especially given their position of power with production and the fans compared to their cast of colour counterparts. I don't think these points are mutually exclusive.

Triv's take: Marginalized groups should uplift one another. I think it's wrong to expect more from Johnny specifically (it applies to everyone regardless of race or sexual orientation and white people should be allies regardless) but we should expect more from the entire cast, crew, and especially the people at the top who set the standard for the cast culture. I wasn't a big believer on the importance of "culture" in a work environment until I started mock my freshman year and the team was getting out of a very toxic era (in terms of hazing, no solidarity, and lack of diversity) and over the past 4 years I've seen that transition to a better culture because my coaches and captains are very explicit about team culture and literally make ppts about it. Culture matters.

Putting these two together because they are similar in calling out the ‘main/flagship’ actors of the show and I’ve talked about how we should be putting it on everyone already so just going to let these anons say their piece and close it off with Trivia’s take:

That's a very interesting point about the "main people" like Coughlan and Jonny having more of a duty to uplift people of color... I'm unsure if I agree (as opposed to all of them having that duty) but I guess... it depends on how much power they actually have within the show and whether we think they inherently have more power as white people (which they do) to the extent where we should put more of an onus on them. Real change comes in the form of the people at the top supporting them and ensuring they get promo and interviews and whatnot. It's not about the individual (Jonny, Coughlan, whatever) but about the group

Triv is absolutely right and she pretty much said it all so I don’t have anything to add on this front.

In conclusion, I think despite Production perpetrating it, the show still should have protected Regé when the ‘fans’ were being shitty. If the cast didn’t want to bite the hand that puts them on the payroll, again they could have just called out the so-called fans. That way, it was still a show of public support and standing up for their cast mates.

It would also have shut down the hate to a certain extent for those yts to know that their bigotry is frowned upon by their white faves. After all, they only listen to each other it seems. Maybe it may have even curbed how a lot of the fandom bigots behave on here and it would actually feel like a safer space for minority fans. However, none of that happened and we all have to live with the landscape we have now. Living with it obviously doesn’t mean we just take it lying down - we should never ever stop calling these people out. They feel uncomfortable? Good. They don’t even feel the half of what we all go through seeing them post racially ignorant bullshit ‘thinly veiled’ in their posts.

Finally, I just sincerely hope that Regé got the support and love he deserved behind the scenes with his own circle of friends and loved ones. I hope Simone and every other future POC lead and ensemble character gets the same from their own circle since no one is publicly standing up for them - definitely not in the explicit way it needs to be done to get people to back off.

Final note: Thank you all so much for reading and I hope the wait was worth it. This being said, writing this up took a lot out of me. I knew I was going to press pause on discourse asks for a while after posting this as I expanded on the type of posts I wanted to blog on here. However, taking about half a week to write all this and kind of stressing about it at times, made me realise I do need the break. Don’t worry I’ll still be in the drama loop reblogging asks and posts from my other friends, just won’t be making my own discussion posts for a while. Hope yall understand!

#Bridgerton #Regé Jean Page #Bridgerton Cast #Bridgerton Racism #Bridgerton Fandom Racism #Jonathan Bailey #Simone Ashley #I wanna tag you know who but not worth having her stans in my comments #Also asks are still closed til I can finish clearing most of them #I'm not afraid of the hate I just don't like the number 62 staring at me lmao #Bridgerton Asks

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myordinarydeardiary · 3 years

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kkatindig · 4 years

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mustafaokutan · 6 years

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madzthebooknerd · 5 years

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thaliiath-blog · 5 years

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radbonkpeanutwombat · 4 years

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doggydrooler · 2 years

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myordinarydeardiary · 3 years

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aiwin-blog · 7 years

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#beonguard #inhissteps #1stquater #ablaze #donereading three more quaters to go #pabebe #fufu

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mustafaokutan · 6 years

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Yeni bir gün doğdu, dostlar merhaba... Bu sabah bulutların güzelliği günüme enerji kattı😊 Fotoğraf yazın son günlerinden kalma 🏖 Balkanların Maksim Gorki'si #panaitistrati 'nin ilk romanı... Ben 17 yıl önce Arkadaş'ı okumuştum ve çok keyifli olduğu belleğimde yer etmişti. Bu da Dragomir'in Stavro'ya dönüşmesinin hikayesi... Parasız ve açken kendisinden daha aç köpeğe ekmeğinin yedi parçasını verip ,kendisi birini yiyen Dragomir'in gezgin satıcı Stavro'ya dönüşmesi... Kim suçlayabilir ki onu, kim yargılayabilir. Annesi, ablası gözlerinin önünde dövülüp ölüme terk edilen, onları bulmak için çıktığı yolculukta iyi niyeti, parası ve bedeni sömürülen, sürekli haksızlığa uğrayan ve nihayetinde dürüst olmadığını bile karşısındakine söyleyen bir hırsız. 🐈 Çünkü o "Kupkuru ve zorlama biçiminde erdemli olma, yüce Tanrı'yla alay etme, seni nasıl yarattıysa öyle ol... erdemli biri olamasan da istersen hırsız ol ama sevip acımayı bilen bir hırsız, çünkü yavrularım, yüreğinde duygu bulunmayan bir adam, canlıların yaşamasına engel olan bir ölüdür..." diye öğütleyen bir annenin çocuğu... 🐑 Çektiği acılardan " Artık ağlamak yetmezdi! Şimdi artık ölmek gerekirdi..." diye isyan eden çocuk Stavro ve onun Romanya'da, Osmanlı İmparatorluğunu'nda, Lübnan'da ve Suriye'deki yolculuğu ve arayışları... Ortak olunası bir yolculuk. Bu yolculuğa beraber çıkamadığımız ama bir şekilde beraber okumaya çalıştığımız @goknuradair ve @aspasiaaspasia ya da çok teşekkür ederim ve birlikte nice okumalara derim 😊 🌍 "Her mutluluğun bir de ters yüzü var, yaşamı bile ölümle ödüyoruz... Bundan ötürü yaşamın tadını çıkartmak gerekir. Gününüzü gün edin çocuklarım, öyle ki Son Yargı gelip çattığında hiçbir şey için pişman olmayasınız" 🌎 #kirakiralina #kyrakyralina #işbankasıkültüryayınları #okudumbitti #book #books #booklovers#bookreaders #bookphotography #bookphoto #bookish #vscokitap #kitaptavsiyesi #kitapkurdu #donereading #kitaplar #instalike #instabook #instamood #instadaily #instagram #bookstagram #okumatavsiyesi #neokuyorum #kitaplaryolda #neokumalı #bookworm #kitapyorumu @felidaela with @insta.save.repost • • •

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