#everything the nazis hated

[rhube]

Eldorado: Everything the Nazis Hated

Someone recommended the documentary film, Eldorado: Everything the Nazis Hated, from Netflix, in the notes to that post about JKR's holocaust denialism. It is so, so worth watching.

It's about the culture and people of the lgbtq+ communities in pre-WWII Germany - especially those who frequented the Eldorado club and/or were involved in the Institute for Sexology before the rise of Hitler - and what happened to them once the Nazis came to power.

It starts off as a really wonderful celebration of the sanctuary and sense of changing times and possibilities created by these wonderful, vibrant people. It includes footage of the first trans women to undergo gender-affirming surgery - three smiling trans women, in colour, from nearly 100 years ago. In some cases, there are even interviews with people who survived from that time.

Obviously, sadly, unforgiveably, it does not last. And the documentary tells you far more than I have ever heard before about what exactly happened to LGBTQ+ people over that period of time.

This includes not just gay men and trans women, but lesbians, poly, non-binary, and bisexual folk. And how this related to the Nazis' general philosophies.

It is crucial to understand that the reason terfism and fascism are such close buddies is that their gender ideology (hah! They actually have one) centres around a woman's role being to breed a pure, Aryan race. So they must only sleep with their husbands, they must not remove themselves from the breeding pool by sleeping with each other, and similarly men have a duty to sire children (if they are of good breeding stock), so sleeping with other men, spreading their 'seed' indescriminately, or taking on the characteristics associated with women - all that threatens the central Nazi thesis that they must create and protect the 'superior' race.

This is why transphobia is and always will be gender essentialism, sexism, and racism bundled up in a trench coat, waiting to spill out. Because of the Nazi roots.

But don't listen to me. If you have the spoons and it would not be too triggering for you, I really recommend watching it.

One of the interviewees, who was a teenager who was falling in love with another boy as the Nazis came to power, tells the story of how they became separated, and how he eventually learned his first love died of starvation in a concentration camp. I wanted to get the exact quote down, but Netflix started playing up when I paused it, so I will just say that he said the reason he wanted to be interviewed was for his lost love, Lumpi. So that Lumpi would be remembered.

For those of us who are able, I think we have a duty to learn about and remember those wonderful, lively people who went before us, and who were cruelly taken away.

The Nazis wanted to erase lgbtq+ people from history. And we can resist that. We can remember.

Obviously content warnings for Nazis, the holocaust, genocide, death, homophobia, transphobia, and footage from concentration camps. It is handled, in my opinion, very well, but may still be difficult to watch. And many of the interviews are in German, so disabled people like me who struggle with subtitles may find it quite draining. But you can pause and watch in chunks.

#eldorado #everything the nazis hated #nazis #lgbtq+ history #institute for sexology #lgbtq+ #transgender #transphobia #homophobia #racism #holocause #jkr mention #holocaust denial #death #genocide

[hazel2468]

At this point, “OP is a Zionist” means “OP is a Jew who has spoken about the rampant and violent antisemitism in leftists spaces and it makes me feel icky that a kike dares to express their opinion because I’m a racist bigot, so I’ll call them a Zio and that means I can get away with being outright racist about Jews because it’s acceptable to hate ‘Zionists’- and if any other Jews call me out, I’ll just say they’re Zionists, too!”

You absolute fucking ghouls couldn’t be more transparent if you tried. You’re not allies. You’re not good people. You do not care about human rights. Your “activism” is the smokescreen you put up to hide the fact that you get off on hating Jews. Your “activism” is about nothing more than making you feel good and getting your little brownie points from other antisemites online.

We see you. We know the deal. At least the fucking Nazis had the guts to say outright that they want every Jew dead. You’re so cowardly that you have to couch it in social justice language and beat around the bush.

#antisemitism #leftist antisemitism #in case it wasn’t clear #no you do not have to hand it to the fucking Nazis #its just amusing #and by amusing i mean i hate it #that violent right wing antisemites and white supremacists and Nazis #seem more willing to be openly devoted to their hatred and wear it on their chest #whereas leftist antisemites fucking cower behind seven layers of social justice language #like either way Nazi or leftist they want me and mine dead #but everything since october seventh has REALLY proven to me #that leftist compassion and the very bedrock of the movement is 100% conditional #and it will fucking go down like a sandcastle in the waves the second there’s an excuse to hate Jews

[wanderrnest]

I'm jealous of people denying the massacre of israeli people by hamas.

Imagine living in a world where these horrifying acts didn't happen. Thousands of armed terrorists won't just storm civilized areas and break into your family home and kill, slaughter, and burn everyone in there. They won't rape women and kidnap children and murder babies and elderly people. They won't molest and parade with dead bodies. Such a safe little world you've got there, where there's only one good and one bad, no need for complex thought, no need for cognitive dissonance, no need for fear, no need for extra compassion. Everything is so easy! Ignorance IS bliss. happy for you for being able to live in this world. some people don't. some people are right here having to deal with those horrors. all you do is being no better than a common holocaust denier neo nazi.

Caring about innocent Palestinians doesn't have to go hand in hand with denying the worst and most brutal massacre of Jewish people since the Holocaust. I'm not going to sit and listen to your human rights rants when despite every proof shown otherwise you still choose to believe an actual isis-like terror organization that intentionally does the worst things imaginable to other human beings and lives on murder, propagenda and incitement. that's fucked up. and the absolute evil and ignorance that people have in them to tell someone who's whole family murdered right in front of them that it just didn't happen is beyond me.

#palestine #israel #pro palestine #hamas is isis #hamas #ישראל #עברית #jumblr #anti semitism #antisemitism #like i literally know some of these people #there's nothing more maddning than seeing people denying what they have been through #news #pro israel #anti israel #yeah i'll tag everything i don't care #see it in your full of hate feeds #current events #israel is under attack #neo nazis #ifyou'd only went through 1/10000 of what these people went and still going through

[orpheuslament]

im watching this netflix documentary about the queer nightlife in berlin before / during the rise of nazism & im already in shambles oh god

#its called eldorado: everything the nazis hate & it has actual jewish + queer historians & survivors my heart hurts #i just. what a magnificent reminder that we have always been here & we have found joy & companionship in the direst of moments & we will + #continue to do so #rare netflix W #dante.txt

[lagosbratzdoll]

Many of you in this fandom overstep boundaries. When I talk about anti-blackness and misogynoir in the fandom in general and HoTD specifically, it is not your place as a white/non-Black person to tell me that “akshually, I don’t think it was anti-blackness. I think the writers were just lazy.” 

That is an egregious overstep, and it annoys me very much. Black people in fandom can have conversations about the misogynoir and we can even disagree, but where the fuck do you, as a white/non-Black person, get off? You not only insert yourselves, but you question the experiences of Black people in fandom as if you have any authority or personal understanding. 

I cannot give credence to the opinions of individuals who cannot even recognise the presence of anti-blackness in their shipping communities. There is nothing you can say that I am interested in hearing. Our conversations are not for you to intrude on, they are intra-communal and I am getting sick and tired of you lot inserting yourselves where you don’t belong.

#you guys are irritating me icl #doing my best to refrain from calling you everything but a child of god #but you guys make it so goddamned hard #it's that same spirit of oversabi that leads you idiots to calling black fans of this stupid family nazis #just stay in your lanes #it cannot be that hard to stop talking about shit you have absolutely no idea about #I've seen idiots on here debating people's lived experiences #“well I haven't seen anyone call you slurs so how can I be sure that you've actually been called slurs” #first of all #who are you? and where the fuck of you get off? #who died and made you arbiter of fandom racism? #you are white!!!!! #like dpmo #hate you all very much btw 🫶🏾 #hotd #house of the dragon #asoiaf

[gaygryffindorgal]

eren m. güvercin in eldorado: everything the nazis hate

#eren m güvercin #eldorado: everything the nazis hate #*mine #fc: roe malinda

[autistic-katara]

heartbreaking: beloved mutual reblogs obvious propaganda and dogwhistles but ur too emotionally attacked to block them

#guys please i am begging u think for a second before reblogging the most antisemitic shit i’ve ever heard disguised as antizionism #yes israel sucks but remember alotta ppl hate them more for being jewish than committing genocide #and if ur gonna be reblogging alotta stuff abt this u gotta be careful abt what kinda stuff ur reblogging #i honest to god do not have the energy for this #please for the love of everything ever think before reblogging that “israel’s stealing baby blood and hamas is good actually” shit #i have these tags blocked for a reason but those badly disguised nazis can’t even tag right #im so fucking sick of this i don’t wanna have to make this post everytime i see smthn on my dash that u could find on a neo-nazi site #antisemtism #tell me if i need to add any extra tags to this btw

[smonk-wonk]

how are you a holocaust survivor if you're POC?

I'm not a Holocaust survivor I'm 25?

I'm gonna guess you mean descended from Holocaust survivors & victims. In which case it's really sad that you think this way firstly? POC and non Jewish people did in fact die during the holocaust and many were targeted for not fitting the Nazis' idea of the "superior Aryan race".

From The Holocaust Encyclopedia: "When Adolf Hitler and the Nazis came to power in 1933, there were several thousand Black people living in Germany. The Nazi regime discriminated against them because the Nazis viewed Black people as racially inferior. During the Nazi era (1933–1945), the Nazis used racial laws and policies to restrict the economic and social opportunities of Black people in Germany. They also harassed, imprisoned, sterilized, and murdered an unknown number of Black people."

Also contrary to what some believe, and this may sound farfetched and I hope you're sitting down but bear with me- some people are actually more than one race. Some people are POC and white. We call this being biracial. Or in grade school, being an "Oreo". A mutt if they really want to dehumanize you

But while my relatives weren't targeted for their skin color as they were white, many people were. Black Germans and other POC did exist, were murdered and traumatized, and have passed down that generational trauma. Just as other persecuted populations even if it was much less it was no less a part of the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

#i was actually never called an oreo but my siblings were #the fun thing about my racial ambiguity is no one irl knows what racial slur or term to call me #anyway there were Holocaust victims that were POC and it's even more reason to compare these events. #we have to mention the holocaust by name. we have to say hitler's name. i feel if we don't we're forgetting that this has happened before #because millions did not die during the holocaust just for us to justify more ethnic cleansing. more destruction of people's land& history #we have to look at how history was rewritten and how they allowed a genocide and massive cleansing to happen #and given my background i can't wrap my head around seeing everything that i heard of the nazis and even the USSR doing #and just going “but hamas”. israel is the cause hamas is the effect. i will never be happy that innocent people died #but people are wrong to say it was because they're jewish and muslims/palestinians/arabs hate jews. furthers the us vs them #they were already being killed and there's a reason colonized ppl & BIPOC see through the propaganda #the “they kill babies and rape women and hate you for how you were born and want to take things from you!” #we are familiar with it bc this isn't the first time it's happened and we remember the result of that mentality #and how it was weaponized #when i say mention it i do not mean above the current genocide. but we know how serious the holocaust was #the scale the lasting impact the destruction the things that were uncovered so much later #there is no “aftermath” of gaza yet bc the genocide is ongoing but we've seen the aftermath of genocide before #if we ignore the parallel we are forgetting history and there's a saying about those who forget history #free palestine #palestine #gaza #free gaza

[bunnihearted]

thinking abt that teenage girl that got kidnapped and raped and had videos of it uploaded to pornhub (which they refused to take down). then she was outspokenly anti porn bc of the rampant rape issues it has... men got so mad at her they sent her death and rape threats plus kidnapped her months old KITTEN and brutally killed it and left it on her porch..... but yeahhh women are the emotionally unstable ones.. like... i dont even have words anymore it's just all so insane.

#ugh no that one has rlly stuck with me #she went thru so much horrible suffering in the hands of men #then she wanted to fight to make sure other girls werent victims of that too #and she loved her cat nd they tortured it and murdered it just to traumatize her more #cant get this out of my head bc it's just so... awful #cant stop thinking abt it. they hated her so much they murdered her beloved kitten #poor cat. so completely innocent (which she is too). #god everything abt this makes me sick #men often torture and abuse and kill animals ?? when theyre mad at smth like... whats up w that O_o #nazis in swe hate our indegenious ppl so they torture nd murder their sacred reindeers... like uhhh what?

[rosszulorzott]

Inspired by watching the show Babylon Berlin last year we now watched the documentary Eldorado: Everything the Nazis Hate.

It has a low score on IMDB.

But it's really good. Has cats too.

#eldorado #everything the nazis hate #documentary #Benjamin Cantu #2023

[ca-ravaggio]

EREN GÜVERCIN as MANASSE HERBST and NICOLO PASETTI as GOTTFRIED VON CRAMM in Eldorado: Everything the Nazis Hate (2023)

#eldorado: everything the nazis hate #transgender #lgbtqia+ #gay cinema #queer history #gay history #trans history #lgbtq community #lgbt pride #documentary #queer community #lgbtsource #gay film #lgbt film #lgbt movie #eren güvercin #nicolo pasetti #gay mlm #mlnb #gay love #queer media

[ihavenoideahowtodream]

Amazon asked for a review of their new AI shopping assistant and I had thoughts

#ai #ai art #ai art is theft #ai art is not art #fuck ai everything #fuck ai writing #fuck ai art #fuck ai all my homies hate ai #pay your workers #pay your artists #pay your writers #ai is theft #ai will go down in history the way Nazi art theft did

[kaiigg]

Eren as Manasse Herbst in Eldorado: Everything the Nazis Hate

#🖤 #eren m güvercin #behind the scenes #druck cast #druck #eldorado: everything the nazis hate #everyone go watch it!!

[favroitecrime]

Same anon as the one asking for clarification on the ad. Please dont answer that one actually, I feel like that'll just open u up to more hate and I don't really think that's fair and I also realize it doesn't really matter as much as whats happening in rafah rn.

Hey! Odds of you seeing this are very slim given this ask lol but please don’t do this. You’ve every right to ask for an explanation, and while I’m probably not gonna be the best at providing one, I’m definitely gonna try because you’re owed that.

There’s lots to say about it but breaking it down, it’s ironic to air ads about threats of being bombed whilst you’re bombing an entirely different group of people. It also paints a picture that the “good Christian white man” is going to help his fellow believers and offer them shelter, turning it into a religious conflict when it’s not. Also, and I say this completely without offense so correct me if I’m out of line, but it just seemed so performative. Antisemitism & its rise must be called out, but I’ve never seen the US care about this (or any other form of prejudice towards marginalized communities) until now. It’s meant to make you feel sorry & feel bad, & to try to twist your understanding of why there “needs” to be a Jewish state.

This isn’t the best explanation by far, but I do hope I managed to highlight that campaigns like this, especially when funded by certain people (in this case zionists), will always have underlying intentions beyond what’s on the surface.

#also it’s sweet of you to worry but honestly anon hate is so ridiculous & thankfully it doesn’t get to me #& while it’s so great that you put rafah and everything first - please don’t feel like you as a jewish person don’t have the right to #question me or others when we call stuff like this propaganda #you’re right! it did seem like an innocent ad addressing the rise in antisemitism so it makes sense to not see beyond that #but the underlying message when mixed with general context paints a different picture #your solidarity does not come in exchange for yourself #tag: asks #if anyone’s got more to add or things to correct pls let me know #to the certain nazi anon that (<-) was NOT for you lmao go away

[thesmallworldofsamizayn]

i have something very personal and ugly and probably incoherent that i need to get off my chest about israel. to preface im not a zionist, i am jewish and disgusted by israel on a daily basis, and this is me mostly speaking from that. i am sorry and if anyone who follows me doesn't want to read this from me/hates it i ask that you just scroll on by and forget it. and if you do read it and respond im happy to talk but just please take it in good faith. in reponse to this post

#it's not black and white. maybe in purely theoretical moral dilemma terms it seems that way. but not in reality. #what do you do with an israel that should not exist on principle but does? it does and the people in it have been there for generations now #and it's jewish. this DOES complicate things and i wish people would stop pretending it doesn't. #it makes everything literally everything so. fucking. complicated. #cause you end up with this implicit ultimatum: side with hamas or be a zionist. what other options are there under this world view #if you only think israel should stop mass murdering palestinians but speak in favour of 2 state solution or talk about 'right to exist' #are you saying you're fine with everything else; the occupation was justified just not outright genocide? #it always has to go back to the ideological origin of zionism which means a call to abolish the state of israel entirely. #and in parallel if you talk of atrocities on 7 october or terrorists this takes away from the palestinian struggle right #because hamas are the armed resistance to israel and to call for their condemnation to withdraw support from the unrwa #is to renounce solidarity with the palestinian cause in any way that matters. do you really care if you deny them the right to resist? #but here's the other side. you just cannot ask this of jews. maybe some jews but the vast majority? telling them they need #to essentially throw their support behind an organisation that hates their existence? #hamas ARE antisemitic. the houthis are antisemitic #it's a different kind of antisemitism to the white/aryan supremacist kind. it's complex and it comes with an actual weight of grievances #but it's still antisemitism. the future desired by the resistance is not kind to jews certainly not in palestine and realistically #not anywhere else either. islamophobia and antisemitism have both seen huge upticks since 7 october. do you think it's just #nazis and far right bigots enjoying free reign? no. there is a real inter ethnic inter religious hatred here. you can't just wish it away #there's a real sense i get from the circles i follow here that you have to be 'all in' with your activism or else your views are worth shit #but then i guess it's okay if your wholehearted antizionist rhetoric is just a bit antisemtic as well or supports those who are #so yeah actually for jews this is not an easy solution. at least for this jew it is not. the only uncomplicated thing for me #s seeing what israel does and calling it a crime against humanity and demanding an immediate ceasefire #talking unreservedly about the evil that israel has committed against palestinians for decades #i wish it was as uncomplicated as going from that to saying israel needs to disappear completely. but im jewish and i have a jewish family. #i cant boycott my father like a problematic celebrity for getting upset when i said israel should never have been established at all #i cant sit in judgment of every jew who feels some personal connection to israel when i'm 2 degrees removed from victims of 7 october #anyway. me personally i fucking loathe israel. not Just Its Government i hate the mocking cruelty of its army and many people in it #and also for how it is tied up with jewish identity despite me wanting no part of it. whether i like it or not.

[codenamesazanka]

I feel for Shoji. I really do. And I get where Shoji is coming from.

Shoji doesn’t have seemed to forgive his town, only let go of his resentment. Shoji wants to make the world better. Shoji understands the anger and pain the heteromorphs feel, he doesn’t at all deny their feelings or experiences; he only wants them to channel it into something less chaotic and more productive. He doesn’t want anyone to get hurt, and he knows neither do the rioters. He’s got an eye out for how heteromorphs will be represented and portrayed, and it’s a somber, realistic take.

Most of all, though, he’s not trying to solve the discrimination issue, he’s just trying to stop the rioters, especially because he cannot afford to let the revolt be exploited by a Demon King trying to usher in a thousand years of darkness. What can be said in a situation like that? If I was in his shoes, trying to find a way to stop a revolt, I don’t know if I can. I’ll probably resort to rhetoric too, appealing to emotion. Please stop. This is a hospital. There could be collateral damage. No one wants that.

(This argument probably would’ve worked better if it didn’t seemed like such an underhanded move by the Heroes. The facts are:

Kurogiri is at Central Hospital. He has to be there because it seems that’s the only place they can do recovery research on him.

Heroes knew AFO will try to retrieve Kurogiri.

Heroes knew about a “call to action,” that a group of heteromorphs are going after the hospital.

They knew the hospital will be targeted by the riot specifically because Kurogiri is held there—

But for some reason they decided not to move Kurogiri elsewhere and make AFO redirect the mob, now nor they they decided to evacuate the hospital despite having days beforehand to do so.

Perhaps the Heroes underestimated the number of heteromorphs that would join in the fight. They can point out Kurogiri is in the Research Building that’s separate from the Patient Ward so maybe the mob would spare that part of the hospital. They can even say the Heroes were hoping the heteromorphs would refrain from attacking the hospital because they trusted in the heteromorphs’ better natures, which is nice of them! But, objectively, planning-for-worst-case-scenario-ly, goal-is-minimizing-the-amount-of-damage-ly, this-probably-won’t-happen-but-let’s-be-extra-careful-ly they really wanted to risk that? Apparently they did.)

But Shoji’s words still ultimately fall flat for me because he’s not actually proposing any change at all, not a hint of it. The rioters are there because they want something, anything to change. Shoji essentially tells them to endure nobly, without promising anything will be different at all. He’s just a kid, sure, he can’t make any promises, but unfortunately he is a Hero student (soldier) representative of the establishment. When he took up that mantle, he’s gotta answer for the system that had promised it would protect and save its all citizens but failed to do so. (In fact they might have enabled viewing heteromorphs as more Villainous.)

What happened 30 years ago? Did the massacres finally stop? The massacres that happened because non-heteromorphs felt like it, they felt uncomfortable around heteromorphs? Fast-forward to now-ish, and villages are still tormenting their heteromorphic citizens because they feel uncomfortable. I guess that’s improvement, because Shoji, Spinner, and PLF Speech Guy aren’t dead. But the scars left on Shoji and PLF Speech Guy are on their faces, their heads; the people that hurt them seemed to have felt free enough to not care about head injuries or leaving eternally visible scars that reminds them of what they did. The moment society collapsed after Jaku, all that old latent hatred came back. All Ordinary Woman wanted was safe shelter and was denied that over and over again. What on earth has ‘not being avengers’ done? The core of their bigotry and the unspoken allowance to unleash that remains.

(I saw a Japanese tweet that observed how a system that allows shelters to refuse heteromorphs probably means there are no laws that prohibit heteromorph discrimination in the [HeroAca] world. Makes sense, especially if you consider that these are government-and-Hero-schools-run shelters, as Best Jeanist proposed? Maybe there are also private shelters, but Ordinary Woman said she went to several and all of them rejected heteromorphs and there has to be at least one government-and-Hero-schools-run shelter in those attempts.)

I’m not saying the heteromorphs should rampage and destroy a hospital and be avengers - and in the end, they didn’t! It’s just Heroes gotta give them a promise of change, to especially if the Heroes believed in the mob’s core inner goodness. The heteromorphs are doing their part; what exactly are the Heroes giving back?

Overall, things are framed as inspiring when it really isn’t, and i really think the manga should acknowledge how Heroes risked the lives in the hospital either out of hopeful but calculated strategy or astoundingly stupid incompetence. And give the heteromorphs at least one solid promise of change.

#the town I grew up in had an active neo-nazi group #and made the Southern Poverty Law Center Hate Crime Watchlist several times #Nothing specifically bad happened to me or my family #but needless to say it was not a fun environment to be in #I get Spinner #but I also get Shoji #in fact i agree with Shoji more than Spinner #if only because I think destroy everything (Spinner’s choice) would probably be ultimately bad #or rather #I’m more in sync with Shoji’s feelings of positivity #than Spinner’s empty desolation #which is exactly why #the writing around Shoji disappoints me even more #at the very least make the speech and hospital and stuff practical tactics #instead of some kind of inspiration and moral gotcha #nalslastworkingbraincell #mha #bnha #HeroAca