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marvelousmagicalaura · 7 months
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I've been having a lot of discussions and thoughts about Ruin's future sight, Preservation's plans, and Harmony's knowledge.
Because of this, I have a good basis on how to write Ruin in my Mistborn AU. Sanderson has hinted that Ruin is the power of change and entropy, so I really want to lean in that direction. Rather than portraying him as the entity of death and destruction that Sanderson wrote him as, I want to write him as the God of Decay and Entropy. Everything we associate with canon Ruin would be parts of his desire/methods of ensuring that all things degrade and decay. Death and destruction are parts of his Intent, but they aren’t forefront in the Intent. The forefront of Ruin’s Intent consists of degradation, entropy, and chaos. To enhance this idea, I may write that AU Ruin pushes people to embrace uncertainty and change.
For example, we know that Ruin canonically pulled the strings behind Kelsier’s rebellion and the discovery of the Eleventh Metal. I would enhance this idea, so that Ruin is responsible for the rise and fall of pre-Rashek empires and kingdoms, war, the advancement of technology, and rebellions. In the Final Empire’s context he would be responsible for guiding its various rebellions, and for advancing technology in the less controlled Dominances.
Ruin weaves and executes multiple, branching schemes to ensure the subtle, slow downfall of Scadrial and its empires. He knows there are countless ways his Intent is present in the Universe, and will execute them through any avenue. I would significantly expand on his actions throughout history.
I desperately intend to expand upon Ruin’s precognitive abilities. It doesn’t feel right downplaying Ruin’s future sight when the only WoB we have about it came from 2012, way before Sanderson truly incorporated precognition into the Cosmere. Not only that but the Mistborn trilogy was written before he solidified Cosmere-wide mechanics. I think that once a Mistborn adaptation comes out, we will truly see his abilities in action.
AU Ruin’s future sight would still be inferior to Preservation. It feels slightly wrong LMAO, but it’s necessary for the ending. But it’s far better than Elend’s future vision and Odium’s future sight.
I haven’t read Stormlight yet, but I heard that Odium definitively has future sight. Going by the IRL definition of the word “odium,” I believe canon Ruin’s Intent of causing death and destruction requires a lot more foresight/planning than inducing hatred.
AU Ruin would also be so much more destructive when released. I want to give Ruin more influence over the world by creating more natural disasters - earthquakes with more impact, floods, earthquakes, blizzards, thunderstorms, tornadoes and hurricanes, scenes of Luthadel’s death etc…
Right now I plan to say that weakened Ruin w/ Preservation’s presence can manipulate phenomena that already exists in Scadrial's natural science. He can manipulate and create anything on the planet to his liking, but he can't _completely_ destroy its structure. He can't do feats like reduce the continents to nothingness, boil the oceans in their entirety, or burn the planet down until nothing remains.
But he can do everything the Lord Ruler accomplished during his Ascension. Weakened Ruin can move the continents or split them apart, move the planet, boil the oceans so they’re absurdly hot, and make the planet hotter or colder.
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aitchdeetee · 1 year
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Alright it's been two weeks since I finished The Lost Metal and the thing that's still nagging me about it is not that my blorbo died but that every other blorbo in the book has an ending that amounts to "and then they became a politician. but you know, one of the good ones, to do reforms."
This makes sense for the characters involved but is still unsatisfying to me because 1) over the last six years I just no longer believe this is how politics work in the world and 2) we know this isn't how it's going to work in-universe because Era 3 is based on the Cold War! I'm left saying "okay, now what" and getting increasingly worried about what noted liberal Brando Sando thinks a political thriller should be about.
But hey I don't read Sanderson for complex takes on political themes, I'm here because he's got cool magic and great blorbos. This is just an example of his strengths running into the brick wall of his weaknesses imo.
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Sorry to unearth your mistborn rant but I caved and decided to read mistborn and was immediately so disappointed. I’m from a country where most citizens were in serfdom so it’s a well discussed topic and my great great grandparents also were in serfdom so we talk about it at home and it’s like. How do you write slaves like this? How? You think some rando can waltz in and explain to them what is oppression? Why would anyone think that it is a good idea??
And he is American!! He uses the word “plantation” and writes this shit!!!! How? How???? And I had high hopes for him!
Anyway thank you for your long Sanderson rant. I found it, read it and felt a little better
anon you are literally so right, it's absolutely baffling the way he writes. im NEVER getting over how bad it is, and i will never forget the world at large for saying it's good writing.
im SO GLAD my rant made you feel better i thought i was just going insane when i wrote it like id read some OTHER book from everyone else
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captrosko · 10 months
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sharaishvalda · 1 year
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I just love it when Cosmere books have actually interesting moral dilemmas and then Sanderson ruins it by making one side cartoonishly evil
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Kelsier Mistborn lookin ass
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isdalinarhot · 5 months
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i was gonna add this to the post about how cosmere books are Possibly Worse These Days with this but i was like man that kind of looks like im trying to start an internet fight when im simply being a hater in a different way than op was being a hater. so this post is in conversation with that one. BUT. the thing with sanderson books is that imo the quality always varies extremely. like stormlight is consistently Really Fucking Good (even row, my least favorite one, was a Great Book instead of a Super Fucking Great Book) and mistborn era 2 is always Really Fucking Bad (is the lost metal worse than bands of mourning? cant tell they all bore me to fucking death equally) and everything else varies in quality highly (warbreaker rules, elantris sucks, yumi is up there with stormlight to me in terms of how much i like it but i kind of hate the sunlit man) like. i personally don't see a degradation of quality in recent years but rather the same variability that is in all of his books. the nature of sanderson to me is that every book release is a gamble. some series have better odds than the others but its always a gamble.
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stardustravens · 6 months
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hinumay · 1 year
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marvelousmagicalaura · 8 months
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Ruin was an amazing villain, but he could’ve done more. The way Sanderson wrote the scope of his actions has Ruin feeling mediocre compared to Preservation's grand plans, despite Preservation dying for millennia unlike Ruin.
One of the flaws I have with The Hero of Ages is that Ruin didn’t manipulate the kandra. I understand he’s a god trying to destroy the world, but he TAUGHT Rashek how to use Hemalurgy. Ruin was essentially responsible for creating kandra. And we saw how efficiently he controlled koloss and Inquisitors, and those who’ve had spikes for exponentially less time.
IMO the kandra should’ve been his pawns throughout their 1000 years of life, manipulated in a similar way as TLR and Vin. I imagine he could influence the Generations to grow more complacent and KanPaar to start a revolt. Even if the kandra still pull out their spikes (which makes no sense imo), at least this enhances the threat of Ruin. We canonically know that Ruin was responsible for manipulating Shezler and fabricating fake stories, in order to lead Kelsier to the Eleventh Metal's existence. Why not take it a step further, and have Ruin lead OreSeur into Kelsier's rebellion. He could even mold OreSeur and TenSoon into rebellious kandra, and explicitly manipulate Zane into a position that would goad chaotic situations and Vin.
I was discussing with a friend about Ruin’s influence on the world of Scadrial, and we agreed that Ruin should’ve done more with his Apocalypse. It would’ve been better if Ruin enveloped Scadrial in more natural disasters - floods, hurricanes, more earthquakes, tsunamis, thunderstorms, blizzards etc… Granted, it’s possible Ruin didn’t create more natural disasters because he wants humanity alive to benefit his search for atium. But if that was the case, Sanderson should've made it clearer.
I've realized that Ruin’s nigh-omniscience seems more limited than it should. The amateur Vin could sense the humans that are within the storage caverns, and hear Elend's voice from the Trustwarren. The amateur Sazed could sense the inhabitants within the metal-covered Trustwarren and storage caverns, protect them and move them around. According to a WoB he healed everyone in them. I know that Ruin could probably see through places like Fadrex's cavern, considering he interacted with Vin, But it sounds… off that Ruin couldn’t sense his atium, or at least not be aware of the Kandra Homeland.
Also, I'm not sure I like that Ruin’s personality is mainly a representation of death and entropy. I understand he’s supposed to be a force of change, so I wish his actions showed a side focused on change. We know he guided Kelsier towards crafting his rebellion, so he could’ve been responsible for other rebellions throughout history. The Crescent and Remote Dominances, and the Southern islands, seems to have been outside of Empire control. So Ruin could’ve taught them how to make advancements in technology. Since he’s a being of change, perhaps his goals could remain the same but his _personality_ is more neutral and calmer than canon. I don’t think Ruin is truly malicious, but his gloating(ugh) comes across that way.
Alternatively, he could've been just as destructive as canon, while intelligently planning things out to achieve multiple avenues for death. Manipulate people into destroying kingdoms and empires in the past, advance technology to breed war, create brand new Hemalurgic constructs after his release etc... There are so many avenues Sanderson could've taken for Ruin to consistently be this competent, subtle schemer he was during Alendi's era and WoA.
And according to Cosmere fans I've talked with, Ruin is one of the worst Shards at seeing the future. I have a big problem with that. Ruin is supposed to hasten and represent the inevitabilities of death and entropy and change. Preservation only wants to keep the universe the same. Even if Ruin is worse at precognition there shouldn’t be a big gap. Not only that, but he was surely setting up long-term and impossible to track schemes centuries in advance, like the Eleventh Metal fabrications and warping the Terris Prophecies. So he must've been seeing into the future to make them possible.
I know there's something something Secret History, something something Intent. But I can only take so much BS from a main antagonist before their threat feels neutered. Though I can’t speak about the other Shards until I read more. I've read Elantris and The Emperor's Soul, so I can at least see Devotion and Dominion being better at future sight than Ruin. Hopefully there are Shards that justify Brandon’s perspective on Ruin’s precognition.
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nerd-in-distress · 1 year
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vin venture is the woman ever
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deep-space-elf · 21 days
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Of all authors, I never thought I'd read about a guy who asks a woman if they could have a threesome with her girlfriend in a Brandon Sanderson book. And lets not forget said guy harassed her for years and didn't took no for an answer. 😑🤮 Yes, the book was published in 2016, but even back then it wasn't acceptable or fun and quirky like it's portraited in the book.
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yasha-chainbreaker · 9 months
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God I hope Orym doesn’t get bitchslapped so hard his face explodes after the proclamation that he is hope
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knightsgaydiant · 1 year
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It’s probably a bad sign that I care more about Allik after a few chapters, than I do about the main characters after three books.
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lordgolden · 2 years
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I finished alloy of law. I've realized that the biggest issue for me with it was the characters. in all the other sanderson works i've read, i've immediately connected with characters and he wrote them in a way that made me care more about them than the plot. This happened with warbreaker, mistborn era 1, and stormlight archives for me. I had not a single connection like that with a character in alloy of law. they all fell flat for me. Wax is like any other angsty protagonist who had his wife fridged (we've seen it before! boo!!!), Wayne like noted before is just the 2D interpretation of Mat that he wrote in TGS. I'm interested in Marasi and Steris, but I just haven't seen enough of them yet. hoping they get fleshed out more in the next book and I can connect with them!
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emrystheedgedancer · 2 years
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Sazed dnd class?
Monk. Almost certainly Cobalt Soul monk.
I actually think Sazed would fit the Exandria setting really well. Cobalt soul monk who happens to end up in a group of adventurers and then accidentally becomes God? That's some Exandria nonsense if I've ever heard it. The Raven Queen gets real nervous when Sazed shows up.
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