#or dick mostly tbh

[praetoring]

so I love me a good social media batfam fic, but imagine this.

a wayne family adventures-esque series where the various waynes & wayne adjacents are vlogging their (civilian) life, but every so often you see this late teen / college aged guy just in the background of vids in passing. they pass by the kitchen and he's cooking, they cut through the garage and he's working on a motorcycle. most often though, a leg or an arm or the back of his head can be seen just out of frame in the library. never anything identifying - unless you count the tuft of white hair, and the always present books.

but they waynes never acknowledge him in vlogs, and he's never featured in them. the comments point him out. the comments what to know who the strange guy is. they never get an answer. the waynes have a ghost.

#it's just jason not gaf #he's just reading most of the time #the comments on their vids ALWAYS mention him #in a 'is no one going to talk about the random dud there??' way #but no they never talk about him #we don't talk about jason no no no #it all hinges on jason not being declared alive again #but living with the family #jason todd #wayne family adventures #batfam #i feel like tim and stef and duke would vlog the most #or dick mostly tbh #cass' turn with the cam is always chaotic #damian's are lowkey animal documentaries

[gerryrigged]

wait wdym dc didn't stick with Red Robin for Tim [and the de-aging thing?] what are they calling him if not RR?

He's been Robin again since 2019 😬 it's a bit more complicated but that's the gist of it.

Okay so Tim became Red Robin in the 2009-2011 series of the same name, back in the post-Crisis timeline. He was supposedly 17 at the time, by official records, and I believe he was still supposed to be 17 when the universe was rebooted with Flashpoint in 2011? (Although this doesn't really make any sense with respect to jamming the huge number of events that happened while he was Robin into like four years, if he was supposed to have become Robin at 13; he should probably at least be 18 if not 19-20).

The Flashpoint reboot took us into the New 52 (much beloathed), where nearly everyone was de-aged to some extent to keep Bruce Wayne and his generation from getting ~too old~, and also Tim Drake was mangled into a completely different character who had never been "Robin"; he'd been "Red Robin" right from the start of his vigilante career. He was de-aged to 16 for the New 52 Teen Titans series.

Teen Titans (2011) #0; as you can see, this version of Red Robin kept a version of the bandoliers and gave Tim a fancy new functional wing cape that he could fly around with.

Next, Rebirth in 2016 was a partial reboot that brought back some aspects of the post-Crisis timeline; tbh I'm not an expert on this period. What I do know is that Tim mainly appears in James Tynion IV's run of Detective Comics that ran from 2016 to 2018. During this period Tim was still called Red Robin, but he'd basically reverted to a Robin costume, with only the silly doubled "RR" symbol identifying him as not ~actually~ Robin winkwink nudgenudge, and as I understand it he was mostly back to functioning as Bruce's partner.

Tynion's run ends in Detective Comics #981 with Tim telling Bruce that he's going off to Ivy University. (He's totally lying, as Tim Drake does; Alfred notices that his tracker is going off in the opposite direction of the university, but Bruce is like "I trust him" and turns the tracker off. Yay, I guess?)

Anyway the important bit is this revealing that Tim is 'going-off-to-college' age. Which could still reasonably be anywhere from 17-19, and DC being DC, they ~refuse to confirm~

Tim as Red Robin on the cover of Detective Comics #934 (2016); as you can see, he's pretty much Robin again lol

Detective Comics #968 (2018); another shot of his "basically Robin" Red Robin costume

In 2019 we got the actual return of Tim as Robin (no "Red") in Brian Michael Bendis's Young Justice run, re-uniting the Core Four from YJ 1998.

Young Justice (2019) #1

As you can see, he no longer has the doubled 'RR', and he confirms that he's Robin - "Well, one of them!" I think he's supposed to be filling in as the Gotham Robin while Damian is running around the world having adventures and presumably getting into trouble, as Robins do? idk.

Tim also chases down his erased post-Crisis past at the beginning of this arc, having Zatanna magically restore (most of) his memories of the previous timeline, and, crucially, his forgotten best friend Kon, kickstarting some plot.

Tim, and all of the Young Justice crew, are notably young-looking for almost the entirety of this run. It varies based on the artist, but uh, yeah for the most part they are really damn baby-faced. This is a trend that continues with Tim and his generation of friends from this point onward, so fans have basically thrown up their hands like "is he 17 forever???? is he Edward Cullen from Twilight???? is he aging backward????"

We Just Don't Know

In any case, Bendis makes DC's next attempt to give Tim his own identity in short order, giving us the hilarious, ill-fated, and rightfully short-lived "Drake" identity.

Young Justice (2019) #10

He's back to being Robin by issue #18, hilariously switching costumes from one page to the next, although some time has apparently passed during the scene transition.

Young Justice (2019) #18; Jinny: "Is Drake back to being Robin?" Kon: "I think Batman and Spoiler made him go back to Robin. Don't bring it up. And say thank you because we didn't have to have the Drake intervention we were planning."

And as of the current date (July 13, 2023), Tim is still in the Robin identity, sharing it with Damian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ God knows how old he's supposed to be right now. I certainly don't.

Batman (2016) #136; the most recent issue out to date, with Tim suiting up as Robin while filling Bruce in after diving into a bunch of parallel dimensions to bring Bruce home.

As you can see, it's a Mess. The Tim Drake's Vigilante Identity question is of course a hotbed of wank and infighting, as people are torn between (a) wanting him to continue as Robin and (b) wanting him to move on and "grow up" into his own identity again (and, importantly, leave Damian as the sole Robin again, lol).

It feels like most people are for option (b), but then nobody can agree on what his next identity and costume should be. Red Robin again?? Some other bird-based identity that doesn't share a name with a major restaurant chain?? Something else entirely??

God only knows what DC is going to come up with, especially after the Drake fiasco.

And there you have it, Anon! Hope that was helpful.

#tim drake #robin #red robin #batman #dc #dcu #dc comics #anonymoose #asks #I've read very very few post-Flashpoint comics tbh so I can't pretend to be an expert but this should be accurate I think #happy for any corrections #I only started paying attention to DC again with Young Justice (2019) #bc MY BLORBOS #so it's mostly that and YJ Dark Crisis (terrible horrible burn it with fire) and now Chip Zdarsky's Batman run #because Tim Tim Tim Tim and also YJ #I'm also about halfway through Tim Drake: Robin #oh and the Mark Waid/Dan Mora World's Finest; which is delightful tbh #I also have some post-Flashpoint Nightwing runs on my To Read list #mostly the Dick & Tim bits bc I am Predictable #gerryrigged

[duckapus]

Just realized that which Titan looks most likely to kill at first glance is inversely proportionate to which one is actually most likely to kill.

Raven is literally a pacifist and doesn’t even attack unless it’s necessary or she loses her temper.

Robin’s family has a strict no-kill policy, but are also trained to make sure that anyone they knock down stays down.

Cyborg was originally just a normal dude so he isn’t about to actively attempt to kill anyone but he’d probably do it if he felt like he had to.

Beast Boy was originally part of the Doom Patrol, who very obviously believe in “acceptable losses,” and while he’s worked very hard to get away from that mindset he’d most likely be willing to get his hands dirty so the others don’t have to.

Starfire has killed before and would gladly kill again.

#teen titans #raven roth #robin #dick grayson #cyborg #victor stone #beast boy #garfield logan #doom patrol #starfire #koriand'r #this was mostly just for the last line tbh

[cluescorner]

I gave myself a writing challenge and I am fascinated by it

So basically I put the robins in a randomizer to give them a new order/role (because I just...kinda wanted to see what would happen + I like role-reversal AUs) and got results that are giving me a fucking brain blast.

Stephanie, the first sidekick who defines the role

Tim, the sidekick who dies and comes back wrong

Dick, the sidekick who saves Batman from himself

Damian, the sidekick who was never supposed to be a sidekick but would go on to prove everyone wrong

Jason, the youngest sidekick who is still the Kid Wonder

...So this is fucking wild. I've got some ideas and several of these fit perfectly (Dick's role is pretty similar to his one in canon), but some of these are fucking INCREDIBLE to explore (Steph being the first Robin is something I never even considered but tbh I kinda love it).

I probably won't write a fic or anything because tbh I don't like publishing my writing that much, but I might expand this into a full AU and post about it. I might randomize other stuff too (ie, stuff that I cannot change vs stuff that I cannot keep the same) but this fucking rules as a starting point.

#uhhh what am I calling this?? #randomizedrobinsau #stephanie brown #oh my god I am so excited to figure out how tf to write this. #because she's my favorite of these characters and having HER be the first sidekick + the one who has a mentor/older sister relationship #with the others?? kickass. though I'll probably keep her and Tim's relationship as 'dating-then-exes' because I think it's funny #and then SHE can be the Robin who Tim got fixated on + figured out her identity?? holy fuck and then the angst of Tim later dying #Tim Drake #tbh I kinda wish he'd gotten a different position because 'sidekick who dies' Tim has kinda been done a lot with the standard #reverse robin aus. But it'll still be fun to write. Definitely going the Joker Junior route with this because Batman Beyond kicks ass #Dick Grayson #He'll honestly probably be the easiest. Like...his role has not changed much outside of being younger/not the one who defines this #But I still think it'll be good to see how well I know Dick beyond his eldest brother thing (which is my best way of relating to him) #Damian al ghul #damian wayne #oh this is gonna kick ass #Bruce does not want his son to be a sidekick but Damian just kinda forces his way into that role #and everybody doubts him because of his history with the league but he later proves himself more than capable #to the point that he can set out mostly on his own and still thrive #Jason Todd #Jason being the baby of the family is also something I have never thought about but holy shit it could kick ass #I really hope that I don't roll 'Jason must die' or 'Robin 5 must die' on the randomizer. I just kinda want Jason to live this time #But unfortunately I double-screwed him because he's on the 'must happen' wheel twice now. I did not think these prompts through #TBH I am so happy that none of them rolled their OG roles. because that would have been so fucking boring

[pokeberry5]

do u like fem dick?

i dont have strong opinions about fem dick but i appreciate her when she crosses my dash

#asks #i like drawing dick in 'feminine' clothing when the mood strikes #but the depths of my brainrot are mostly limited to tim #tbh im more leery of the characterization that often accompanies fem dick but thats a whole other thing

[twinkrespecter]

Oh no, big-dicked, horny and smart 🥵🥵🥵

aaww thanks 🥰🥰!!

#tbh I think my best quality is that I'm a good cook 🙈 #and tbh maybe my dick #but mostly cooking!!

[mothandmoose]

You know there's something I've been wondering

How in the hell do smut writers know what Donnie's and Leo's dicks look like?? Like, I've seen way too many describing Don having little tendrils on the tip or comparing it to a stamen in a flower, I just? Yall looking up turtle anatomy or something?

#tcest #turtlecest #leotello #yeah it's mostly that tbh #don't really see any other ship describe dicks

[foxgirlmoth]

Someone sent this in one of the very few servers I'm active in on Discord:

And upon seeing the "(you don't even have to listen)" I got so full of rage

If I found out you didn't listen and just pretended the entire time just to try and sleep with me, I'd get as far from you as I could. Holy shit this is fucked up.

#Ah yes let me abuse neurodivergency and excitedness for some dick #Fuck off #Listen. #Listen closely cause. If you do this #I hate you. #If you just like??? space out? Yeah sure whatever #But if you're not even trying to listen to me and then you're like #'haha good job!! You said lots of words look at you having interests' and kinda just. Infantalized me or some shit #I'd wanna throat punch you. #Ugh #I feel emotional today I hate it #This makes me so upset. #If you wanna have sex just say it and don't do this fucking mind game or have 'techniques' to get people in bed #that shit feels vile #Also don't harass this person like. Yeah it makes me angry but tbh it was probably mostly like. A nothing post idk #Surprisingly trans people and people who are neurodivergent deserve respect and to be treated like an adult #Not saying that like. Getting headpats and praise is bad. But if its worded in this kind of way just for sex? Ugh #Ranting I suppose

[local-magpie]

considering keeping my hair slightly longer bc it looks good and is a perfect length to be pulled in bed, but then i need to find someone to actually fuck me for that to be useful

#yelling at the void #wheres the cream filling #taking applications i guess #must be either a man or masc #if you dont have a dick your strap game needs to be so good i forget flesh versions exist #(not hard tbh) #im mostly joking bc i dont think anyone is actually going to shoot their shot

[electric-sympathy]

:)

#tbh I am mostly hatereading this comic #just hate the overuse of serial killers. edge. and suspension of disbelief-shredding overuse of the Gordon family as all important figures #and I think the family just deserves a fucking break #but it has good moments #Batman: The Black Mirror #batman #dick grayson

[louderfade]

#i carried a printout of this around with me in my bag as a teenager bc i was a big dork #to be clear it was the pumpkins of whom i was such a fan and not billy specifically #besides being a terribly obnoxious cringelord going through a christian phase he was also terrifically up his own ass about his bad poetry #and he was always being a dick about/to people who use drugs which is a very bad look imo so i was not exactly a billy fan #so i don't know why this stupid thing was so important to me #i think i was grieving the fact that all my favorite bands broke up before i was old enough to see them live but who knows #tbh i think teenage reasoning is mostly a mystery to everyone. no one can explain their thought process from age 15. #even current 15 year olds seem to be pretty clueless and generally at the mercy of their own brains #when i think of being 15 i recall a lot of chaos and confusion and a vague but constant rage toward everything in general #but picses iscariot does rock. those songs hold up and so does gish. just sayin. #this has been a boring post about some shit i liked too much as a teenager that i bet you wish you'd just ignored at this point #follow for more boring content about my personal life likely to make you reevaluate the ways in which you spend your time #pastlife #smashing pumpkins

[dramatisperscnae]

nice boxers dickie. does bruce know you wear his merch?

#dick face #forever laughing about this tbh #dick grayson wearing batman merch is just hilarious to me #also adorable #but mostly hilarious

[clearancecreedwatersurvival]

I, as a regular ass person with adhd, often go about my life and experience a little gremlin urge in the back of my head telling me to just suddenly do a back flip. Or a cartwheel. Or a handstand. For no particular reason and with very little hope of success.

What I’m saying is it is unrealistic to me how few people write world class acrobat Dick Grayson as like frequently getting off a couch by doing a backbend into a handspring just whenever. Like obviously he’s doing stunts in the middle of a fight but what about in the day-to-day?! Maybe he occasionally greets a teammate (or increasingly annoyed little brother) by vaulting over their shoulders. Doing a wall split in the middle of a conversation. Walking around on his hands. I wanna see him bring the energy of that one video of bts cirque performers that ends with a guy shooting himself ass first through a hoop. There is missed potential here.

#I have known a few circus people! they’re out there doing flips just for fun! #dick grayson #batfam #dc #caitie speaks #disclaimer: I am mostly complaining about fic here but tbh official comics and adaptations should do more with him too