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wizardemotions · 2 months
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the question came to mind of "in your ship, how might the larger/stronger party pick up or carry the smaller one?" and these were the answers i came to
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madameberry · 1 year
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This was originally a thread I made on twitter of drawing reference packs of nonwhite and/or body-diverse people. I made this out of spite after hours of googling trying to find fair-use reference for RGB/hue lights on dark skin (which I still haven't found!). With twitter going the way that it is, I'm crossposting this here in case it gets nuked. This thread originally focused on packs that are specifically uploaded for drawing reference that have licenses for artist use, though later I did branch out a bit with suggestions from others. I'd love to see more added to this.
This is gonna be long so I'm putting it under the fold. Let's get into it.
@AdorkaStock has tons of body-diverse reference packs, including probably the only trans or disabled models in a reference pack I've found. Oh, and the best part about adorkastock: most packs are free with attribution! Some faves:
https://www.deviantart.com/adorkastock/art/Wing-Pack-Preview-891765898
https://www.deviantart.com/adorkastock/art/Sailor-Starlight-and-Prince-Nova-Highlight-Pack-842015663
Faestock on Artstation has a few packs. I like that these packs have costume references too, since I struggle with clothing a lot.
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/VXDqy/x113-stella-fantasy-queen-reference-pack
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/v9bPA/x120-genie-pose-reference-pack
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/1V0aw/x120-christine-action-reference-pack
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/LpWb0/x120-gown-sword-pose-reference-pack
Grafit Studio has a few good packs if you're willing to pick through their selection. Here's a free pack with a variety of models, and an expressions pack I've used a few times.
Sample pack: https://grafitschool.gumroad.com/l/IoHbY
Expressions Pack: https://grafitschool.gumroad.com/l/LPpjT
Satine Zillah on Artstation has a number of packs. Anyway here's a nice one of an older black gentleman, a variety portrait pack, and one costumed pack that I included in my original thread, but I can't speak on the accuracy of the depictions:
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/J25K/portraits-vol-2-model-ali-260-jpegs-photo-reference-pack-for-artists
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/yJ72/portraits-photo-reference-pack-255-jpegs
https://www.artstation.com/marketplace/p/9NdV/culture-of-the-steppe-760-jpegs-photo-reference-pack-for-artists
Cathleen Tarawhiti on Deviantart has a number of stock options sorted by model. They normally do book cover shoots, but they're seemingly free for personal use, which I assume includes study.
https://www.deviantart.com/cathleentarawhiti/gallery/55170611/zabeen
https://www.deviantart.com/cathleentarawhiti/gallery/65446765/whitney-marie
photoref.org has a number of shoots of diverse models. The pinup shoot and the skate party shoot are great, I love the outfit inspo!
Pinup Pack: https://jennravenna.gumroad.com/l/vwAsi
Skate Party Pack: https://jennravenna.gumroad.com/l/EGpIk
@ fugitiverabbit on Twitter is running this resource of fat photo references that's (so-far) volunteer-run:
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This site was suggested to me and it's just good and fun and wholesome.
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There are a number of Tiktok users who pose for reference use. I can't include all of them individually, but here's the one that was brought to my attention:
r/drawme and /rdrawmensfw subreddits were suggested to me as places where people have given permission to be drawn. This can be a good source of refs for different body types as well!
And finally, two book recommendations:
Morpho Anatomy for Artists - Fat and Skin Folds by Michel Lauricella So many anatomy study sources focus on idealized proportions. This is one of the few resources I've found that goes deep into how fat and skin lays on the body in different locations.
and How to Draw Black People by Malik Shabazz
That's all from my original thread, but feel free to add more!
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cacodaemonia · 3 months
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Hi there! I’m completely in love with all your artwork and fics and everything and couldn’t find a way to ask this via Ao3 but I wanted to know where you get a lot of your references for your Waxer/Boil artwork? If you’d prefer to Dm me you can!
Ahh, thank you so much! I'm really glad you like it! 🥹🧡
Normally, I would reply privately, but I always take opportunities to plug one of my favorite places to use for refs. Intimate Lens Studio is a couples/boudoir photography studio based out of Oklahoma City in the US, and they seem to work with a lot of queer couples, which is often helpful when I'm drawing two people with the same build. Plus, they just do really lovely work, so if there's anyone reading this who lives in that area and wants some gorgeous photos, check them out!
Since I don't take commissions or make any money with my art these days, I don't limit myself to using only creative commons images, stock images, or my own photos as refs (there are a lot of my own hands in the images I've drawn over the years😂). Most of the what I use is just grabbed from image searches, and some are stills from gifs. I also combine refs sometimes, work from 3D models that I pose, or use no refs at all 🙈
So unfortunately, I can't recommend any one stop shops. Mostly lots of creative image search terms, haha.
Thanks again! I hope you can find some useful images!
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maria-ruta · 3 months
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hey i also have an oc thats a mechanical engineer like blueberry but iim havin troubles to find good poses that arent boring stock ones . May i know how or where to look poses for my oc?
hello fellow mechanical engineer oc haver! 🤝
to be honset I also struggled, I found few pics on google to use them as pose refs few times? like few sketches in this post
but honestly I would suggest you browse through pinterest - a hole to spend hours in, but i do find nice refs there sometimes
for example here what i found while searching for "mechanical engineer"
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here is the link to pinterest post iteslf and a lot of similar photos as suggestions bellow it - this way you can find some other refs like that
or for example this one:
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link to the post, with lots of cool similar suggestions bellow as well
of course Pinterest isnt the best place ever, often don't have source for the origins, adds, and I can see damn disgustion ai pictures in suggestions as well
but its easy for me to use once in a while
also try to look for different things too, while looking for poses? i mean you could search for "man fixing car/refrigirator/radio/airplane/etc" as well or backroom staff working on some sci-fi movie or making props, like alien or star trek or expanse and etc
also also just in general i suggest to do life sketch studdies sometimes
idk what else to suggest, i also am not super aware of how to draw scifi stuff even though i like it much ;')
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imflyingfish · 1 month
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Hi fish hi fish!! :] hope you're doing swell- wanted to ask for some advice
I've been trying to learn how to draw wheelchairs for a while now, hardest part has been finding refs with people in em, do you know what terms to search up to find stuff like that? All good if not, just know you're pretty well acquainted with drawing em so figured I'd ask
First off I'm going to state that I'm not a wheelchair user. I have researched them in the past and have asked a family member who uses one for advice, but still don't take my word as absoultely reliable. The majority of my knowlege/observations comes from watching family members with chairs so it may be biased. I'm going to be mostly talking about manual chairs but the same suggestions should apply to powered.
Searching up "wheelchair drawing reference" can help, but I discourage using google images. Often the images will be unrealistic due to them being stock images, or of the wrong type of wheelchair for what youre drawing. (One that comes up a lot are foldable wheelchairs which are more associated with hospitals than practical life).
Instead, try to use reference collections made by wheelchair users. This is a really good collection by Criptid Cosplayer in both manual and powered wheelchairs. They also have a small guide to designing fantasy wheelchairs which was interesting.
I also reccomend learning what the different parts of a wheelchair are and do. This will make it easier to understand how the user uses the chair, the shape of the chair and make it easier to remember the different parts while drawing. I don't have a specific source for this using photo reference since I looked at real wheelchairs for this. However @/calvin-arium has a good guide to drawing chracters with wheelchairs with drawn diagrams here.
Also ensure you observe how real people use wheelchairs. I find that tutorials for using wheelchairs are a good source for this since they break down how each movement works. This will make it easier to draw Wheelchairs in montion/natural posing. Wheels2walking has a good video explaining rolling and one here for wheelies.
Other tips:
Give your characters wheelchair gloves, especially if they're going to be going longer distances than just being inside. Not all users use gloves but they do help protect the hands.
Consider if the character needs additional support/what type of chair they're needing. E.G. Seatbelts, cushions, cupholders, additional storage space, hight of handles/if they have handles, back height ect.
Check what type of wheelchair your character needs. One of my OC's needed to always hold a megaphone as her main weapon, so I gave her a powered wheelchair with a headrest to ensure that I could still have her move around the battlefield without taking away her disability. Other times you will need to consider the type of chair around their disability rather than design/character function. Make sure you research the type of chair for the disability and adjust if needed.
Wheelchairs have different functions. Sports wheelchairs and off-road wheelchairs look very different to regular wheelchairs so keep that in mind. Always research the right wheelchair
Also consider if your character can move their legs or not while posing. For example I would not draw GTWS with crossed legs because thats impossible (from what i know idk.)
To draw the wheelchair start with a circle with the figure to get an idea of the pose. Treat the chair as an extension of the character while drawing. Don't worry about the anatomical accuracy of the chair before you have a good idea of the pose/a basic sketch or thumbnail
Remember to draw the wheelchair using perspective. or dont.
Wheelchairs are even cooler decorated. Some people use stickers, covers, lights, fabrics, spikes.
It's okay to draw wheelchairs badly. I see a lot of people avoid drawing them for fear of getting them wrong but thats just. counterintuative. Make sure you research (even further than this post links to) and stop avoiding them.
Okay yeah, thats all I can think of for now. Keep in mind that I'm not disabled and so not everything I say is guarenteed to be accurate. But this should be enough to help you out I think.
If anybody else wants to add on to this feel free
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zooophagous · 1 year
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How does using photography for reference material fit into this? I would hardly count that as a form of theft.
The answer is really it depends. Given how individual each piece of artwork is, there's not really a way to say offhand "yeah thats totally copying" versus "Oh that's just a reference."
Sometimes you don't know if you flew too close to the sun until someone comes after you for it.
Which is obviously not ideal. The way I personally do it is like this (and I'm not a lawyer, just so we're clear)
1. Reference a pose and redraw it entirely but don't trace or use a grid or other tool to transfer it 1 to 1. Use the photo to get an overall feel, not an element to use, especially if the thing you're reffing is the ENTIRE thing you're drawing.
2. Piecemeal it. Maybe you got this eye from one photo but the mouth from another and the arm and hand pose from another still. The finished product would be something new and not a complete redo of one specific photo.
Or the easiest way to get around it and the one I usually go for- just use images that are already free use stock photos or otherwise photos you have the rights to. This can be tricky for niche subjects, but for a lot of common objects like furniture or various poses there are tons of fair use and free stock that exists without stepping on the toes of photographers who protect their own copyright.
If you know the source of the image it usually doesn't hurt to just ask nicely for permission. I haven't had a photographer refuse me yet, especially if they're credited.
It's a grey area. Nobody likes grey areas because they make it hard to take sides quickly and participate in drama but they still exist. Personally I'd find it weird and uncomfortable if I found someone trying to build a career and sell prints of a painting of my specific pet cat they found on tumblr lol
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domirine · 2 years
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You probably do a lot of life drawing seeing as how perfectly fluid your art always is so this ask might be redundant lol but,, i was wondering what kind of references you usually use? Do you just google similar poses, does it come from your mind, or do you have a go-to app to look through like pinterest?👉👈 i ask bc I struggle a lot with poses and usually when i look them up i end up drawing nothing bc its not. Ever good enough for me/what im looking for lol😔 still not sure how to even draw characters smoochin, rip
thank you, nonny!! i do a lil bit of life drawing, but man i really do feel the same way you do. while i'm happy to show some art when i get it done, the process can be a real struggle.
sorry this is gonna be long and all over the place lol hope it helps tho:
life drawing good: i recommend ditching the idea of finding the 100% Perfect Ref right off the bat. studying anatomy and life drawing (this site has a range of body types and fun poses) somewhat regularly, therefore growing my mental library so that i can try and make whatever pose is in my head happen later, has been more viable to me than spending hours looking for the Perfect Ref.
drawing a bunch of generic people skating without pressure of creating proper character art is good practice, and it primes me to then come up with a skating pose of my own.
ref hunting: i save pictures i might use as refs regularly in a browser folder - good refs, bad refs, boring refs - losing a ref standard can be helpful because at the end of the day it’s what you make with it, so it doesn’t have to be particularly mind-blowing to begin with. you don’t wanna reinvent the wheel or create the most never-been-done-before pose, you just wanna get a thing right.
pinterest is very good for poses, yes, though you have to know how to look for them - i.e. i found that typing out "dynamic pose" will not yield organic results, as opposed to looking up people in motion like athletes, boxers, skaters and such. for fighting, i recommend using photos or clips from (ideally staged lol) fights, as opposed to stock images where the models are standing for a while posing - the former preserves a lot of the movement. i also recommend looking up group photos from events or shows for interesting natural poses and people interacting.
best hot tip of all tho: what helped me most is to not treat references very religiously. don't be tied down by what's in your ref, or not finding the perfect one, because then you're focusing on accuracy and not necessarily on what you wanna communicate with your drawing. if you can't find what you're looking for in full, just use a part that you find interesting, and then bullshit the rest and revise accordingly.
idea-generating can be very hard but you can practice it like any other skill, because having a decent idea of what you wanna draw is helpful - you don't have to have the whole pose visualised 100%. it's the mood, body language and expressions, that i think are more important. looking at refs can help reveal your ideas and intentions, but i will not create them for you i’m afraid.
for example, speaking on characters smooching, i've drawn these using refs in   pretty uptight way with no ideas beforehand - and i find them painfully boring because they're not rly communicating anything aside from a anatomical accuracy (more or less);
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i was being too intent on staying faithful to the reference, and they're looking kinda stale to me. the only one that was done without any ref, was the bottom left - which i like! bc it's got spice and it’s portraying some emotion.
but i wouldn't have drawn it if i hadn't already started on the others, so maybe another good tip is to trust the process and not give up mid-work!! drawing stuff you’re not proud of is still drawing stuff, and not everything you create is gonna be satisfying. things are gonna click here and there, but you never know when, so don’t give up on your ugly artsy ducklings!!
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myrmica · 1 month
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8, 17, 25 for the artist ask game >:J
8. What do you like most about your own work?
this is a fun question. well for one i like that i like my own work now, for the most part... not that i never get frustrated but more often i draw something and then i feel pleased with it, and this was not always the case. a lot of that has to do with having fixed issues in my process over time. but it's also because i am capable of transmitting qualities i find interesting about the world, about color, about the body and how it moves in space, that are specific to my way of seeing them, and that's satisfying. if i had to pick one thing it would be how i draw bodies, it's hard to describe but at some point something happened and the entire way i see people changed, including how i see myself. as much as this is true for "art style" in every case, i feel like i am always depicting myself because i recognize things about the shape of my hands, or my arms, or my legs, or whatever, that i reproduce both consciously through using references of myself for convenience and habitually or subconsciously. i don't know what my point is. some sort of basic satisfaction in who i am
17. What inspires you?
EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but i put a lot of time and effort towards collecting things to use as reference or to take elements from and i think drawing from references that you find visually pleasing and developing a sense of taste in relation to this is important in a way i don't really hear people talk about. i have an aesthetic aversion to like, the type of pose reference you get from just googling a pose, the weird stock photo stiffness, the lighting and framing of classic deviantart stock photos... all of which can be a necessary utility but i save photos i LIKE for pose ref constantly so i have more options.
some of my favorite things are...
1) joshi wrestling photography (NUMERO UNO!!!!!!!!!!) you get a huge variety of angles and poses and i have a lot of appreciation for the costumes and visuals of it all. because they're still images of people in motion it captures weight and movement you don't get so much other places. "but that just gets me people fighting" you might think, and you would be wrong. women holding each other constantly.
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2) historical photography. i'm especially fond of the prokudin-gorskii collection because there are all of these representations of clothing styles and silhouettes i find captivating, in color, and it's weird color because they're early color photos using a technique where you take three versions of the image, through a blue, red, and green filter respectively, and then to display them you project them through the filters again, and the effect is striking because of the saturation... like this one with the loggers, you can easy call to mind a million versions of the same photo seen in black and white, and it's not that black and white photography isn't also interesting but it drives me crazy how much pink and purple people were wearing across the russian empire between 1909 and 1915!
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i was going to try not to talk too much about visual art in the answer to this question, but i'm also really into paintings by the peredvizhniki group, which stretched up to about the same time period in the same place, and you can look through these photos and identify shared subject matter, which is pretty cool.
3) historical artwork. especially stuff depicting clothing, or fencing manuals and the like. knights were doing all kinds of gay shit to each other if the fencing manuals are to be believed.
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4) minecraft roleplay. this is self evident
25. Based on your recent reference searches, what would the FBI assume about you?
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nothing... don't worry about it...
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stunfiskz · 4 months
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where are some of yalls fav places to find art references... the problem i keep having is that i don't like ones that look particularly staged so a majority of the things i can find on pinterest are out since most of the pose refs there are more professional photoshoots, and i HAVE been looking on stock photo sites and using those but it can get hard trying to find things with more varied angles on those
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philcoulsonismyhero · 7 months
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6, 24?
6. Anything that might inspire you subconsciously (i.e. this horse wasn’t supposed to look like the Last Unicorn but I see it)
... what seems like all my dude character designs tend to visually invoke either James Ironwood (tall, beard, soldier vibes) or Harry Cunningham (floppy hair, stubble, goofier and/or more charismatic personality). It's especially obvious whenever I'm designing a pair of characters that are part of the same story, it's getting a little bit silly because sometimes I don't even realise I've done it until I look at them later. You can definitely sort most of my male/masc OCs that aren't part of a specific larger cast into one category or the other... I'm just rolling with it, though, sometimes you've got to bounce off of the same tropes in multiple ways to scratch a specific brain itch.
24. Do your references include stock images
Oh yeah, all the time. I've got huge and extensive sort-of-organised folders of stock images and the like on my computer, I tend to hoard them for later use. There's a couple of brilliant stock pose photo artists on DeviantArt and the like (adorkastock, jookpubstock etc.) who tend to be the first place I look for particular types of refs, but otherwise Google Images is my friend. I'm slowly getting better at Frankenstein-ing references together from multiple sources rather than being reliant on finding The Exact Right One, but I'm the sort of artist who Needs at least some sort of reference so I'm a big fan of stock images.
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prehistoricmancunt · 2 years
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artists! I want to have a list of resources for finding fat life drawing references online.
do any of you know of existing lists or sites or Instagram account or individuals? paid or free.
it’s tiring and upsetting to try to search for fat body drawing references on google or Pinterest and be met with fatphobia and diet posts instead of drawing references celebrating different body types.
i have a few that I’ve found such as:
- croquiscafe (there are larger bodies on the site but I don’t think you can search specifically) a membership based paid life drawing ref site.
- @fatlifedrawing on insta posts about paid live life drawing zoom sessions
- bodyliberationphotos.com has fat stock photos
- @shooglet on instagram. Sugar is a fat photographer who specializes in capturing fat joy and does so beautifully. their photos aren’t specifically references but they’ve never asked people not to use them as such.
-@rubyyyjones is on insta (and tiktok etc) and has a patreon w poses and monthly zoom life drawing sessions. they have some free images on their Instagram grid as well.
comment or reply w other sources and I’ll add to this post as I find new ones!
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sydmarch · 2 years
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ended up watching this video the other day where some cunt was talking about how they use ai to help them with their art & at first I'm thinking ok I can see how it could be helpful in finding references ig bcus sometimes it's like if you need a specific lighting AND pose? you spend more time looking for refs than you do drawing. so like cool you can generate idk man cross legged underwater lit from below or whatever niche thing you couldn't find on stock or reference sites but no this person said they use it to come up with ideas for them bcus coming up with ideas & inspo is the hardest part so like when they don't have any ideas they type something broad as hell like "moon fairy princess oil painting" scroll through all the images it generates find one they like and redraw it. and it drove me absolutely fucking insane like maybe just because of where I stand w my art where its like I agree w them that ideas & inspiration is often the hardest part. like my biggest strength is technical skill I can pretty easily bang out realism I get 'thought this was a photo' tags on my work but I feel like creatively I'm so stagnant compared to when I was a teenager with hardly any technical skill but so many ideas and so much to say & I envy my younger self who came up w characters and stories all the time and always had things they truly wanted to draw rather than just doing photo study after photo study between actual bursts of inspiration but like. is the solution to that to just fucking give up & let an ai do all your thinking for you? photo studies are fun and challenging & I enjoy them but imo they're hardly ART I'm not really SAYING something I'm just DRAWING something. don't you want to fucking say something!?!? what's the point of even BEING an artist if instead of challenging yourself you're just gonna redraw ai generated images it's just a copy of a copy what's the POINT I'm so tired
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baihujun · 2 years
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Your art is gorgeous ♡~♡
If you don't mind sharing please do you have recommendation on how one could improve their art? Like is there a specific book or an Internet sources that helped you
Hello, and thanks!
Unfortunately, I'm like... the worst person to whom to pose this question. I'm self-taught but de-emphasis on the taught, meaning I don't do studies or lessons like I really ought to. Which means I'm mostly just fumbling along in an extremely inefficient manner lol.
All I can offer in the way of advice is to not be afraid to use references. I draw mostly muscly dudes so references are indispensable for me. I typically reference photos that I save for this purpose, or if I'm looking for something specific I'll turn to ol' google images/stock photos. Occasionally I'll utilize 3d model assets (I use CSP and the Clip Studio assets library has an ever-growing collection of them. I'm too lazy to pose complex models but I have a 3d bust I sometimes use for tricky face angles, for example), or a pose ref site like posemaniacs, or general anatomy ref images.
As you accumulate experience you might rely on them less and less for common poses/angles/etc, but even pros still use 'em.
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azrithart · 2 years
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Hello, sorry if you've answered this question before, but what advice would you give to a absolute beginner learning to draw fantasy character illustration art? (Also do you draw while high? Since that is the only way I know how I can experience new methods of thought openly without judgement.)
Hey,
That’s rad you’re starting out in fantasy art!
Here’s some of the starting advice I’ve received and still follow today:
1. Use references for everything! Photos, free stock pose pages for artists, video stills are all great. Deviantart, instagram, and other sites have some free fantasy pose galleries to ref!
https://www.deviantart.com/adorkastock/gallery and https://www.deviantart.com/pose-emporium have some cool scifi/fantasy shots.
2. If you worry about proportions, make doodle pages of small things - eyes, faces, hands, etc. This could help in working up to full figures; and developing a style you like.
3. Practice as much as you can! Though they say it takes around 10,000 hours to develop a skill, you’ll see progress the more you make :D
4. Explore different drawing, shading, and coloring styles
5. Draw what makes you happy! A lot of artists get caught up in trying to post what will gain them a following, and hit burn out too soon.
6. Warm up before you draw. Even just drawing a few big scribbly circles! A loose, relaxed wrist will produce better line quality than a tense, shaky one. I like to draw character headshots, hands, eyes, or objects before starting a new piece.
7. Stretch out your wrists and give yourself small breaks every 30-60 min! It sucks getting used to, but better drawing habits make all the difference.
8. Find artists or styles that inspire you! I like to try out different stuff, and have a side blog purely for reblogging inspirational pieces.
9. Tutorials - there are many great free videos on youtube for coloring, line art, drawing figures!
(While I haven’t been high before, mental blocks are all too real! I tend to stay up late to draw with a cup of tea or coffee. When playlists don’t match the theme of what I want to draw, I’ll find a fantasy ambiance compilation of a DnD tavern, desolate city, whichever vibe feels right. The more immersion, the more my mind loosens up to make cool things!)
Thanks for your ask :D
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fishsticxz-art · 11 months
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for ask game, 2, 19, and 24?
2. Is it easier to draw someone facing left or right (or forward even)
(i had to do quick doodles to check how they all feel) facing left is easier than facing right but i might even prefer drawing (human) faces from the front? ofc if its a furry its easier to draw from the side so i dont have to draw a snout from the front which can be a bit of a nightmare
19. Favorite inanimate objects to draw (food, nature, etc.)
i honestly don't draw much else than characters lol, i think ive answered this one before and i said clothes and plants? also i wish i could draw technology better because if i could i'd probably be into mecha but its such a huge hurdle to learn at this point ;w;
24. Do your references include stock images
oh i've answered this one before too! i don't use references often (i should probably use more because thats how you get better oops) but if i need a ref i'll just google one and sometimes there are stock images yeah, but i don't really go out of my way for any specific kind of reference image. sometimes i just take a photo of myself if i need a pose reference
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iraprince · 4 years
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i was wondering, where do you find good references for your art? especially for complicated poses like.. almost everything dearly does. i dont know if im just bad at image searching or what, but i can never seem to find what i need online (and i cant really take my own ref photos for poses that require a lot of flexibility ...or more than one person)
for really extreme poses i get specific -- like for those drawings of dearly i searched stuff like “gymnastics poses” and “yoga flexibility poses” (i tried “contortionist poses” too but i found that stuff was less clear/helpful). i don’t think you’re bad at image searching though, it IS really hard to find good reference and sometimes i really am sitting here for ages trying to find the right thing; and a lot of times even what you can find is kind of stiff and awkward bc stock photos and stuff are usually just kind of odd. (i saw on twitter that apparently, hilariously enough, adding “kpop” to the end of searches can get you more natural-looking/appealing refs; bc like, if you search “person eating lollipop” you get a bunch of awkward stock photos of someone making bug eyes at the camera while unhinging their jaw to lick a cartoonishly-sized rainbow candy but if you search “eating lollipop kpop” you get softly lit glamour shots of some music artist looking really cute while eating candy or whatever. i haven’t tried it myself but it genuinely sounds solid lmao.)
a lot of general figure drawing poses are pretty extreme too (i like using the class mode on this site) and i find that the more experience you have drawing really active/unusual poses, the more confidence you can have in kind of fudging it when a reference isn’t exactly perfect or when you can’t find what you need. (this also allows you to push/exaggerate poses or stylize realistic anatomy to better suit your art style, while still having things “look right.”) my personal goal for myself re: reference has always been to work towards a level of technical skill + confidence where the reference works as a flexible tool for me that makes my life easier, instead of me being chained to my computer for an hour looking for the Absolute Perfect Photo before i can even start; transitioning from the latter to the former comes from familiarizing yourself w anatomy and practicing a shitload and storing up enough Body Information in your brain that the way you draw becomes more, like.... modular, if that makes sense? and u can change things or edit things from reference -> drawing without too much stress.
for group/couple poses and also just general ref, especially re: characters holding things or sitting certain ways -- you probably already know about senshistock on deviantart, but i often go there when i’m in a pinch. i find the gallery a little hard to navigate just bc of the sheer size of it, so it might not make it Faster to find anything, but it’s a great resource with a lot of material that was made specifically with artists in mind.
you can also search up videos on youtube and stuff and pause them to try to find interesting frames of what you’re trying to draw! i don’t use this method much bc it’s definitely still not much easier or faster than any other kind of ref hunting, but it’s an option, especially for really niche stuff.
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